Remember when you could install Linux on a PlayStation 3? If you answered "vaguely" to the previous question, then you may be eligible to compensation β well, $9 to be precise. For the past six years, Sony's been battling a class action lawsuit, which proposed that the platform holder wronged up to 10 million owners by removing the 'OtherOS' function from its last-gen format. And it's finally agreed to settle.
As per the terms of the accord β which are yet to be approved by a federal judge β those who can prove that they used Linux on the console are eligible to a payment of $55. Meanwhile, those who didn't use the function but are able to articulately illustrate that they purchased a PS3 based on the feature will receive the aforementioned $9. The company will also have to cover legal costs, which will set it back some $2.25 million.
A steep pay out, then, but why was Linux removed from the console in the first place? Well, Sony said that it represented a security concern, which could lead to piracy. It subsequently patched out the feature, describing the removal as "voluntary". Of course, those who didn't agree to remove the 'OtherOS' option from their console subsequently lost access to the PlayStation Network, among other key features.
Ultimately, the company will probably be rueing the day that it decided to include a Linux option on its console to begin with. Who wanted that feature anyway, apart from the dweebs who try to get DOOM running on modern fridge freezers? As per the case, the manufacturer will need to inform its customers of the potential compensation by leveraging its email database, while also purchasing banner ads on gaming websites.
What a ball ache!
[source arstechnica.com]
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Always boggles my mind when cases like this get solved years later. Who the hell has been fighting this for the past six years? Who cares?
It's a thing some folk expected and therefore had a right to access. It's Sony fault for not inherently realising the risks of Linux. Especially if it was touted as a selling point, the removal is something to peed about. Just coz ya don't get it doesn't make it any less of an issue ya know
@get2sammyb who keeps suing Nintendo over wii stuff. It happens but if it's not sorted it'll keep happening.
@BLPs Fair enough. I just think anyone putting time and energy into something like this in 2016 must live a very privileged life, because if you're worrying about the inability to install Linux on your PS3, then you clearly ain't got any real problems.
What is linux? Does not having linux harm negatively ps3 gaming?
You guys got me really excited. I thought there actually was a refrigerator that could play doom. Oh well, guess I'll have to settle for playing it on my smart watch.
$9? That will by me precisely one beer here in London. So I'm in. Yeah I was totally going to install Lionux. Please send my beer, I mean cheque to...
The suit was brought on behalf of a California man who paid $500 for his PS3 in July 2007, and chose to pay the hefty price because of the Linux feature, the suit says. But on March 28 2010, the company announced software updates would not longer support that.
To retain the feature, however, consoles could not be updated. Failing to update means PS3 players lose the ability to sign into the online PlayStation network, chat or play Blu-ray discs, according to the suit.
Linux is great and I have a soft spot for it. My PCs hd failed, I had an on disc operating system (linux red hat I think?) and it allowed me to access the web, emails and some stuff off floppy discs way back in 1999. Without it my job would have been a nightmare or a new PC would of been on my credit card. Don't knock Linux its brilliant!
@get2sammyb AFAIK, it's actually quite to the advantage of the legal firms pursuing class-action suits like this to let it get drawn out far past the point at which anyone remembers or cares. In addition to getting to deduct their hefty legal fees directly from the settlement, it's common for these agreements to stipulate that the prosecuting firm gets to keep whatever portion of the settlement isn't claimed, which can obviously get pretty damn lucrative.
Anyway, does said articulate illustration need to be in Penguinese? Because I only know a few conversational phrases... pretty much just "Full of fish?" and "Then let's fish," really.
It takes 2 to tango. Stretching this case out 6 years was not one sided.
When a PS3 came out I remember it being bang for buck the most powerful lunix PC (or something like that) there was actually a miltary base that had a couple of hundred networked together for some reason BUT people that play games and want a Lunix PC thats a niche right there.
Couldn't sony just patch it within Linux, dunno if it's possible or not but now it's gonna cost them a bit.
I doubt it'll cost them too much when you look at the terms of how to claim, that coupled with the small amount of people who used Linux in the first place which probably triggered Sony into ditching support.
@get2sammyb This site has got way too negative lately, now it's got to the point I'm debating to stop reading it. Do you really have try insult groups of people to get laughs?
I don't think they'll have to pay out too much, I mean I didn't even realise this was a feature till now.
Also what kind of evidence do you bring forward. A Facebook post from 2008?
I have actually installed a lot of linux distributions on my old PS3. Even those that are somewhat optimized for the console did not run that great due to small memory. I am not sure how it was used as a server or cluster back in the day.
In the end I tried some emulators, code and text editing. It was somewhat slow but acceptable. However I cannot see how I could prove that I used the feature.
@belmont careful, Sammy will call you a need and dweeb because he thinks trying toniffend people is funny.
Linux is awesome, running Linux on a PS3 was not so awesome lol.
I hope the people who claim then 9$ lose there wallet on the way back from the atm. What a complete waste off time. Lawyers must have made a killing.
nerds and dweeb the whole lot of em
what a load of B*******, they took it out to help stop piracy not to spite people, suing them for removing a feature that as the terms and conditions say could be removed of modified at any time is stupid
it is their system and while we own the box we DON'T own the system software, Sony do and they can do whatever the hell they want to with it such as removing any feature they want to, this culture of suing for anything and everything is as judge Rinder puts it
anyway what's the betting most of the people moaning are the ones who was using it to play pirated games
@GamingPenguin
Class action lawsuits are a huge money maker for Lawyers ONLY. 2.25 MILLION in legal fees. End user $9. Limit lawyers to one equal share of the settlement. Stop class action now!
@Grawlog Low blow.
@Neolit This is another example of one of those things that really shouldn't be allowed. Just reading the article I could tell it was some off business practices.
And for those saying they need to get a life, I wouldn't buy be happy if a console was by law listed as a PC, with the addition of a custom OS only for Sony to stupidly realise years later that it's a security risk (memory cards anyone, Sony has a record here) and to then make consumers choose between access to services they paid for and therefore have a legal right to, such as online, or a feature Sony had in that they used as a way to get the money in the first place.
It's like being sold a burger, the best bit being the meat and that's the highly touted bit to entice you in, such is advertising. But once ya have it they remove the meat from your very hand, or you can keep it but lose your side dishes.
*ehemm, you know we DON'T own the system software so how can you sue because Sony modified something that THEY own?
here are a few points in the Licence agreement (found here)
http://doc.dl.playstation.net/doc/ps3-eula/ps3_eula_en.html
"your rights to use or access the current version of the System Software will cease upon installation of a newer version of the System Software onto your PS3β’ system, whether such installation occurs through manual or automatic download by SCE"
"You do not have any ownership rights or interests in the System Software. All intellectual property rights therein belong to SCE and its licencors, and all use or access to such System Software shall be subject to the terms of this Agreement and all applicable copyright and intellectual property laws"
"Without limitation, services may include the provision of the latest update or download of new release that may include security patches, new technology or revised settings"
if Sony want to remove or add features they can, it's THEIRS not ours
can it annoy people, yes it can but it is still their RIGHT to do so
"dweebs who try to get DOOM running on modern fridge freezers"
Lol, fridge freezers easy, the kettle's the tricky one!
Seems dumb to be perfectly honest, but in places like America I've seen people sue for less.
Look up PS3 supercomputer just to give an idea of what some did with OtherOS. And I would rather have Wolf3D on my fridge.
Type in Linux and PS3 first links MODS and cracks. Hmmm so strange Sony removed it.
I didn't use so keep your cash just like 95% of the consumers.
Why would people want to install Linux on a PS3 when they can do it on their PCs? It's probably easier as well.
I don't mess with Linux, so I have no clue about the benefits of having it.
Author clearly butthurt that some people can do things more technical than post taylor swift gifs online.
Sony removed the feature for clear reasons. Piracy. However, you cant sell someone something then take it away or lose access to the main function of the device. I think @get2sammyb is missing the point completely with his post.
Yes, its a feature many of us didn't bother with, myself included. But just because you weren't interested in the feature doesnt mean its any less value to those who DID buy it for it.
Abhorrent post from the author tbh. "dweebs who try to get DOOM running on modern fridge freezers"
Take for example: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PlayStation_3_cluster
Its like buying a car then a few years down the line the manufacturer turning the sat nav off.
Im sure it pissed quite a few people off. Hence the lawsuit.
Its a shame that Sony had to remove it in the end, as im sure some here know.. Sony had a thing for giving programming tools to people. Anyone remember using YaBasic on the PS2? Which im sure got a lot of young kids interested in programming and game development who are now in the industry.
In Sony's (kinda) defense, the threat of piracy can cost them far more than those few million. Not even from the pirates themselves, but from developers. Compare the PSP to the Vita. If it picked up, Dev's may have been very wary to support PS4.
Still a stupid move to include the feature in the first place, but PS3-Launch-Sony had some truly stupid ideas at times.
@Remito Linux is an OS like Windows, but it's mostly used by Anti-Windows users or people who are good with coding etc.
People could install freakin linux and then take that linux and install windows XP, I thought that was really cool.
Maybe Kaz shouldn't have gotten that pay rise, then? What a dweeb!
there wasn't all this b*tchin about removing backward compatibility on ps3. The first 60gb one had it the rest didn't. Don't see any lawsuits about that.
@get2sammyb exactly, well for me I don't care. I am quite sure there is something in their terms of use that states they can change that at any time they see fit, if people agree to it, which they have to in order to use it or play games, then they just agreed by contract and the lawsuit is void.
@Kage_88 Nintendo fanboy thats for sure. What should they have done at Nintendo fire him the big boss I guess.
@Neolit yes its all coming back to me now. I agree Sony should take ownership for taking this away feature from consumers.
More like - "Sony Could End Up Paying Millions to Angry Linux Fan" It is a bit annoying when companies remove things for one reason or another.
I'm pretty sure all 12 angry linux fans are actually upset. But everyone else is just in it for the freebies.
freakin babies, that money could have been spent to improve PSN, helping indie developers, all sorts, freakin babies, get a freakin life,
@Neolit Fantastic summary!
Linux on PS3 sounded like a cool feature, but if I remember correctly, it wasn't fully authorized (no access to the PS3 GPU etc.) so it could have been implemented better, even back when it was in use.
Sony learned a hard lesson. Give the ability to run linux to these people, and you end up getting burned and having to pay out money.
I'm glad this happened. Sony will learn and stop making the same mistake of allowing linux on their consoles.
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