And to think we actually really enjoyed Destiny 2 when it first launched. That seems like a lifetime ago now...
Bungie's shooter is back in the news cycle thanks to the game's latest Faction Rally event, and no, it's not because it's been a huge success. The Faction Rally tasks players with pledging their allegiance to one of three factions. They then have to go out and gather tokens to support their chosen faction. It's pretty straight forward stuff -- or at least, it should be.
Of course, Destiny 2 being Destiny 2, something had to go wrong. Bungie's been found out by the community yet again, as the developer has put a system in place that stops people from acquiring too many tokens. According to the studio, this was supposed to curb exploits, but the reality is that it's choking the token gain of just about everyone who's collecting them at a decent pace.
However, the real issue here is that this latest drama comes off the back of Bungie promising to be more transparent with its plans for Destiny 2. Not too long ago, the developer was called out for the game's experience point scaling system, which stopped players from racking up loads of experience points if they played over long sessions.
Bungie now claims that its latest method of limiting Faction Rally tokens is "too disruptive", and it's looking to fix it. "We will be remedying this lapse in communication next week," the studio promises.
Right now, it's like Destiny 2 is trapped in quicksand. Whenever it tries to move, it sinks just that little bit quicker. Bungie can't seem to get anything right, and the game's really starting to pay for it. At this point, we think it'll take something quite miraculous for the release to shake off the negativity that currently envelops it.
[source bungie.net]
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Was so tempted to pick up Destiny 2 but glad I didn't bother now. Wonder if Anthem will get the formula right when that eventually arrives?
I think this is just nitpicking now. There are genuine problems with the game but bashing destiny 2 has turned into a witch hunt.
In two years will Bungie still even be a studio?
@Pamela Agreed.
Anyway, of course there will inevitably be restrictions programmed into the game. You know, the same reason I cant beat Sephiroth with a level 1 Cloud.
@Pamela just like the internet does for almost everything these days.
Destiny 2 is one of the few games where the demo put me off buying the full game. It was so bland, just running down a corridor, shooting the same enemies with the same gun forever. It was like a generic PS2 FPS that has been given newer graphics and rebranded. Amazing what a highly funded marketing department can do.
Don't worry. They'll have their usual canned pointless meaningless "We are sorry" PR statement to put out. And turn around and do it again.
@Pamela Welcome to the Internet.
I don't even care anymore. And that my friends, is a blessing.
Deleted the game off my hard drive I couldn't be bothered with the constant updates that basically fixed stuff and broke other things. If they actually sorted it out and planned everything right with a bit Q and T then the game wouldn't have to download as many patches.
I enjoy Destiny 2, but then I don’t play it enough for this to be an issue. That said, the overall attitude of the gaming industry is really turning me off...to the point that Destiny 2 will most likely be my last multiplatform day one purchase. Flash sales and bargain bins for these titles from now on.
So happy I never picked this up. The game that I had an issue with (SFV) finally got patched.
@Pamela a limited time event, complete events to collect tokens to raise xp for your faction, winning faction gets a new weapon. Bungies stops players earning more than two token drops in 20 minutes. Previously we were collecting hundreds an hour. The new event offers no new weapons as rewards for collecting tokens, weapons are the only meaningful loot in destiny 2. Okay, you think that the community shouldn't complain about this. You're wrong.
@Matroska the same gun forever? The demo had a few different guns and in typical demo form it didn’t give you any of the good stuff. It’s only supposed to give you a taste of the mechanics and a sample of a game area. What did you expect from a demo?
@Cassetticons Here you go. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1D5Sa2Yq-2g
@kyleforrester87 Doesnt Cloud start off at like level 4 though
I don't think this, in and of itself, is the biggest deal but the cumulative effect is really burying this game. I think Destiny 2 is going to become a case study on what not to do with a launch.
@SuperSilverback IT WAS A TEST
@SuperSilverback @kyleforrester87 You both failed its level 6 he starts at, levels up to 7 after first fight
@bindiana I play a special hard version where he starts off at level 1 and you have to play the entire game with Yuffie and Cait Sith in your party.
I'm thinking about getting a group together for the Division. From what I've read, it seems like a lot of the free patches and updates they've done have made it feel like it has a substantial endgame, more so than Destiny 2 could ever hope for.
@kyleforrester87 Was going to ask to borrow your version until you said you have to have Cait Sith in your party from the start that's one hardcore version. FF7 is my favourite game of all time and I wouldn't play that version haha
@bindiana yeah it sucks. When Yuffies not robbing your materia everytime your backs turned he's riffling through your backpack with his grubby mits for key items.
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Every thing you said is dead right, destiny 2 is bad as we say in Manchester UK
You know, these kinds of systems aren't inherently bad. I mean what's wrong with a grind heavy game having systems, like the experience point thing you mentioned, that persuade players to take breaks from playing? Back in WoWs heyday, when every player seemed to be addicted to it, people would be all for this kind of thing. However the problem is the fact that Bungie seem to like doing it behind the scenes, without the knowledge of their players. All they need to do is be honest but I guess that's too much to ask.
Not sure why ppl keep banging their heads against a brick wall with D2. Go play something better, its not like there are few other options like when D1 came out.
@kyleforrester87 Yuffie is actually pretty good once you get her high end limits Cait Sith though....just let Reeves be the party member
Cholkin' the Token. Uhh....huh-huh-huh. Huh huh huh. Hey, Beavis......
@shafedog247 you can't deny that the AI in this game is really subpar, I would say it's one of the worse EVER...
The difficulty of the game comes from ginormous hp bars that make the enemy sponges and you stay there shooting and shooting and shooting! Besides the enemy comes at you doing those stupid dashes but stays in open field, no cover most of the time and they're just stupid...
Destiny 2 outside of the Crucible is just barely passable as a shooter, and after all the negativity around Destiny I was expecting so much more
@AFCC you have me a bit confused here. When did I mention the AI or anything about enemies being bullet sponges(which is standard in these kind of games. It’s the same in The Division)? I was merely asking what the guy expected in a demo of the game.
@AFCC
For people that played Bungie's ODST Firefight mode on the 360, you can see that the core gameplay and AI of Destiny, is just the samething, except it's now played on larger battlefields with loot boxes. It wasn't great in ODST Firefight mode either.
Predictable sadly. Bungie are starting to look like the arch cynics of the gaming world, and that's up against some tough competition.
@kyleforrester87 You mean level 7. Cloud starts out at level 7 in Final Fantasy VII. Haha I never actually thought about the connection between Cloud's starting level and Final Fantasy VII.
@kyleforrester87 Also Yuffie is a she.
@bindiana Ah! But honestly that's a tutorial fight, it isn't really an actual battle.
@shafedog247 just adding more wood to the fire and saying the dude is right!
@Hengist I lost my will to play soon after buying it! For me it was Crucible, the rest is boring, bad designed and bland
@AFCC completely disagree. Do you not understand the concept of a demo? A demo is merely a sampling of a game. It shouldn’t provide a player with every in game experience. If Bungie has given more then the complaints would have been that “too much was shown in the demo.” Youre coming off as entitled. Bungie doesn’t have to give a demo or beta, they choose to.
Unless the next expansion is spectacular, D2 is finished. Hopefully this is just a case of history repeating itself as the Dark Below was terrible on release as well. House of wolves marked a narrative advancement and the start of D1 having engaging characters and a better loot pool, then TTK came along and made it into the game we were hoping for at release.
Sadly, I can't see this happening with D2. They've gotten greedy, and it's all whales and minnows etc.
@shafedog247 Of course they wouldn't and shouldn't show everything in the demo! But still I'm just saying that besides the PVP the game is passable at best...and now that everyone's hype is wearing off more and more people realize that it's Destiny 1.5
@AFCC dude go back and read my original response to another person’s comment. You have completely derailed what was being discussed at the time and continually change whatever point you’re trying to get across. The guy was talking about the demo and “shooting the same enemies with the same gun forever.” The demo had some 15-20 different guns including 3 exotics. Hardly the same gun forever. Then out of the blue you bring up the game’s AI? Just simply say you don’t like Destiny and leave it at that.
@shafedog247 He was generalizing his point, just that
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