The Elder Scrolls, Fallout Developer Bethesda Bought By Microsoft

Xbox Series S confirmed to be my second Console this gen, what a great move from Xbox.

Starfield to be a day one Gamepass title too damn, Sony needs to announce Kojima Productions takeover now

This is insane news.

Absolutely incredible power play by Microsoft. Wow oh wow. Never would have expected that, what a win for them. Can't remember an announcement this major in recent memory.

Personally, it doesn't affect my next gen plans, because I'm not a fan of Bethesda's games in the slightest, but it's impossible not to recognize that thisis absolutely seismic. Incredible.

Yikes. This one hurts tbh

I'm reading the headline and I still don't believe it.

Wow this is huge news. Big power play by Microsoft

Okay, that is was one heck of a power play by Microsoft. Knew they were out for exclusives but this I did not expect.

Next gen will be interesting. Will Sony now seek to develop its own WRPGs or acquire another studio?

Woooooah, crazy stuff. I sure am glad I own a PC!

Holy crap...unless Microsoft is looking at becoming a software only company, this is baaaad.

An insane acquisition! They’ll have some of the largest IP’s in the industry under them. This will affect some purchasing decisions I’m sure.

welp looks like i will get a gaming pc when TES 6 releases.

still not gonna invest in a xbox though lol.

Your move, Sony. Jesus

I still have no faith in Bethesda for Elder Scrolls VI or Starfield after everything they've done this gen & I don't like most of the other output from the studios they own like Wolfenstein or dishonored. It's really not that huge of a loss to me but it's undeniably one heck of an acquisition.

Potentially losing DOOM too though? Ouch...

What Microsoft just did..
They are slow. But they are going in..

I wonder what this does to the overall publishing of Deathloop.

@Royalblues
Deathloop was always going to be timed.

Well I am now super happy I own a good ass PC

Wow that's surprising, will this be like minecraft where the games still come out on others console or will the games go full exclusive to microsoft platform? Oh well, at least microsoft is selling their game on steam, so I can buy it on my pc.

If future bethesda games are still on playstation I think it means microsoft want to become 3rd party pc & console publisher and get out of console market if the new xbox s/x didn't sells as good as xbox 360.

Not gonna lie this could really hurt PS5

The new Xbox console is becoming every day more tempting...

Man this changes the landscape of games , Not in Sony's favor .

All I can say is thank God for the cheaper Series S.

@Royalblues SEGA is way too big to be bought out by Sony at this point. I wouldn't count on it. They're one of the most prolific third party publishers in gaming history and it's not going to be that easy.

Plus the idea of mainline SMT going over permanently to Sony in addition to already having Persona be exclusive to their platforms would probably piss a lot of people off

Keep that same energy that PS fans had when Sony bought Insomniac and others or you're all hypocrites.

So basically the whole WRPG genra is now Microsoft exclusive....

Alright Sony, time to buy Take-Two Interactive...lol.

@AdamNovice Oh yeah of course, same as all those studios Sony bought. It’s almost as if buying up studios in order to gatekeep exclusives.. is a bad thing?

@AdamNovice what about Doom and Wolfenstein? Arkane games anyone?

Not to worried apart from doom and wolfenstein, ill just play those on pc.

@Menchi
Insomniac was always a second party dev for PlayStation. The only game they've made recently for another console was Sunset Overdrive, and that was because they wanted to retain the IP. Bethesda has been multiplat with all of its games. Apples and oranges my friend.

Very interesting. Curious how this is going to play for any games that were being developed for the PS.

@arnoldlayne83 Microsoft really is bringing the big guns. Looks like Sony better do something fast.

Remember what Microsoft did to Rare? Imagine them killing Bethesda the same way

OMG. I dislike both franchises at the moment but keep playing them in the hope they’ll return to Fallout 3 / Morrowind quality.

This is a huge moneyhat for Xbox.

Although they might do a minecraft and release elsewhere too. Perhaps only as part of their Gamepass streaming service though, which would be a big draw to get people locked in.

Now everyone can be certain that MS are not in Gamepass just for the games. They’ll never get $7.5billion back that way. Interested to see where they are going regarding selling our data, advertising etc on the platform.

@Menchi Well the difference there is Insomniac has rarely ever done work with companies that aren't Sony in terms of console games and Sony owns some of the franchises they developed already. If anything I always used to think Insomniac was just a first or second party studio for them and them being bought out wasn't exactly too surprising.

Bethesda is an extremely high profile publisher known specifically for multiplat franchises, with a lot of them appearing across a breadth of systems, and it was multiplatform releases like Skyrim and the Fallout games that brought a crap ton of people into those series.

@kyleforrester87 is Larian owning ID software and Arkane studios?

@arnoldlayne83
I LOVE Arkane. Deathloop looks great. Dishonored and Prey were both great.

Wow. Obsidian now this, I’ve chosen to go X over 5 at the start of this gen and it’s looking like a good move.

PC gods win once again.

This means that Deathloop is owned by Microsoft but timed exclusive to PS5 😂

To be honest the only loss for me would be Doom and as someone else said the only big sellers are Fallout and Elder Scrolls whilst Skyrim was a very long time ago now.

Still potentially a big loss but not one I'm overly concerned about

Once again "Gamer Phil",who hates 3rd party exclusives,but is quite happy buying up entire 3rd party studios to create permanent monopolies. Always the hypocrite is Phil.

Ok, now I'm going to get an Xbox Series X first, especially since I'll be able to play most new games on my PS4 PRO. PS5 probably 2 years later then.

I like people blaming Sony for buying all those studios (Insomniac)
Anti consumer Sony. Lets gooooo haha

@Akimi agree. They may be my favorite developers so far together with From

@Royalblues I wish they'd go to other consoles too, but Atlus probably learned from SMT Nine and Catherine that their games don't exactly rake in the cash on Xbox in comparison to PlayStation and Nintendo consoles. I do think P4G and SMT 3 HD are definitely steps in the right direction.

Bye doom, fallout and wolfenstein

Jeez... I mean... Ive lost faith in bethesda but i kiiind of still had hope. To think i wont play another fallout or elderscrolls hurts bad.
Im not going to buy a whole system just to play a couple games.
Sony should take note and realize microsofts plan now, its not to make the better console, its to take all the developers. Quick sony, use some of that money you made with the ps4 and dont let them get their grubby hands on anything else. And god dammit QUICK BUY CAPCOM.

Might be huge news for sure.... but...
remember fallout 76? the sub that came with it?
remember youngblood for being annoying, unbalanced and repetitive?
remember the announcement of ES6... oh wait... sorry. not in your timeliness
yeah doom is a loss. might get it on pc like every other xbox exclusive.

This sucks. Guess I’m getting an Xbox at some point.

@TheFrenchiestFry Sony won’t buy Sega after Shenmue 3 didn’t turn out to be the investment they hoped. Sega at this point are really only worth it for their back catalog. Their management of their own franchises has been abysmal.

@Robocod
I mean, he's an executive yeah, but I think Phil gets a bad rap. I like him better than most people in his position. He's certainly more charismatic than Jim Ryan. Seems like he actually plays games also.

@RadioHedgeFund That and Atlus. The Atlus acquisition and stuff like Yakuza has done them a HUGE favor in terms of money making IPs

Also I believe SEGA had nothing to do with Shenmue III. They lent the IP to Yu Suzuki

@lacerz haha, only if it would make rockstar actually release games more frequently I would be all in

Nice. This is what I like to see.

I have my reasons to add popcorn to my healthy diet.

Blimey! Bold move Microsoft. Elder Scrolls is one of the biggest ips in gaming. They might have finally got me to even ponder getting an Xbox, although most likely I will just have to play them on PC now. That’s if Bethesda can return to form that is.

WOWIE. This came out of nowhere. So glad I own a powerful PC and subscribe to Game Pass.

Holy crap...that’s an insane move.

@gollumb82 this makes sense. Image elder scrolls 6 as a timed Xbox console exclusive, that’ll shift units easily. This is a huge move.

Crazy news. Makes Game Pass have even more value to it's name.

I must be the only one that thought... meh!

Remember that energy all of you had when Sony bought Insomniac Games? Yeah.

Game-changer. Your move, Sony.

This is a huge move by Microsoft.

Im interested to see how the game devs at the studios feel about this and if they where given advanced warning and I'm intrigued by how the exclusive deals with Arkane Studios about Deathloop is gonna work now as well.

I'll laugh if Sony just straight up caves in a buys out Rockstar or go even as far as Activision to level the playing field.

Didnt Phil "the Gamer" Spencer say not just a few weeks ago they weren't interested in console wars and 3rd party games.. I wonder what changed in those few short weeks.

I hate Bethesda games anyway so doesn't affect me, but damn they aint playing this is an industry wide earthquake, meanwhile Jim Ryan is over here for Sony shouting about how old fashioned they're business plan is and that they won't change. I don't think Sony will be leading this gen like we all they thought they would.

@AdamNovice this. This is true anti consumer right here.

Here we go again, another gen with both systems

If I was going to lose a big chunk of games for PS5, I'm glad is Bethesda. Would have never guessed it, but I am personally glad.
Loved the FPS but have never been a fan of these huge RPGs...

@Royalblues Capcom ain't happening either. They're banking off of Resident Evil alone and stuff like DMC5 and especially Monster Hunter is doing extremely well for them right now. They could always strike another console exclusivity deal like they did with Street Fighter V but I can't see them getting bought out.

@Kefka2589
Exactly my thoughts. Games pass is losing money hand over fist snd this ensures they don’t make it back for years to come. So, what are MS actually up to? They have to monetise these Gamepass subscribers in ways beyond gaming somehow...

@Fenbops
Yup! I already have Forza 7 and Forza Horizon 4 on the PC so this is even sweeter. I'm actually happy that MS is showing some fight. This/last gen they straight up threw in the towel in the first round. Competition means Sony has to step up.

I'm not too fussed about Bethesda, but Arkane and especially id really sting.
Welp, better MS than Sony though, at least we'll stil be able to play these on the PC too.
DOOM being XBox exclusive is baaad though ☹️

@kyleforrester87 my thoughts exactly. Good job MS! Finally a reason to get your console

This huge. Elder Scrolls is a game I'd buy new hardware for.

This is insane. What a mic drop, especially if they all come to Game Pass.

I couldn't care less! Bethesda rpgs bore me senseless... But i'll be waiting on deathloop at a deep discount now to minimise ms profits haha

Also, I wonder how many pre orders will not be cancelled. Maybe I can get a PS5 without stressing now!

Extremely anti consumer move from ms. Typical also. Its like when windows came along and pushed out all rivals creating a monopoly. Looks like they are trying again.

@thefourfoldroot None most likely. Its only bughesta

Kind of a shame, i love fallout but not enough to buy an entire colsole for it.
Microsoft had to do something i guess though, it wasn't looking good.
I share people concerns about how they are going to sustain all these companies if they are giving all the games on subscribtion, stuff like fallout and elder scrolls are big money multi million productions.
Well the gloves are certainly off, phils friendly speeches about making gaming for all sounding increasingly hollow.

They haven't confirmed the games aren't coming to PS anymore so don't count your chickens yet. The issue will be if they do come to PS5 then you are looking at a similar cost to 5-6 months of game pass.

@Steel76
Selective memory much? Sony bought Insomniac (one studio) after Microsoft bought Obsidian, Ninja Theory, Playground Games (essentially on par with Sony buying Insomniac), Undead Labs, and Compulsion Games. And now this.

But yeah, what you said makes so much sense. Lol!

@Royalblues SMT Nine was a Japan only Xbox exclusive entry in the series that served as a prequel to the first two SMT games. It was pretty distinct with the whole cyberspace aesthetic and hacking mechanic

Well, this kinda sucks. It’ll be interesting to see if Xbox keeps these games on competing platforms or if they make them exclusive. After all these years of Xbox “pro-consumer” moves, this one is the biggest f-you to consumers.

@Razrye888
Elder Scrolls, Fallout, Doom, Wolfenstein, Prey, Quake, The Evil Within...the list honestly goes on.
Not saying I would cancel, I much prefer Japanese games, but with Sony censoring and sometimes csncelling those on PlayStation it has me thinking.

@Enigk
It would be hard for Microsoft to justify the acquisition without putting the games out on PS5 as well, much like Minecraft. Plus, there are antitrust laws that need to be taken into consideration. But for a splash headline, bravo...especially the day before pre-orders go live.

@TheGamerKing I'd rather they don't what MS is doing. Personally speaking, it's a shameful move regardless. I know they want to bulk up their Game Pass service, but it's definitely anti-consumer. I see people saying Sony did the same with Insomniac, but that's not even close to a comparison. One studio(that was pretty much a future Sony studio) isn't nearly as bad as several studios. It's not going to kill Sony, so people really need to relax on that. There's more to the industry than Bethesda. Either way, it's a sad move and kinda shows that MS can't really win unless they throw their money around. smh

There's a fairly good chance they will still put games out on PS5. That is a LOT of money. Being able to put them all day 1 on game pass would still be a pretty major selling point for them, even if they are on PS5.

After all, despite being great news for Microsoft and Gamepass owners, this "acquisitions race" is bad for gamers in general, because you are kind of forced to double dip in console if you want to play it all... In the current console generation, I was able to easily skip completely the Xbox One (except for the Forza franchise that I love) and play 90% of the game I wanted.

Now the only all-around solution look to be a PCmastarace

Wonder where this leaves the likes of Fallout 4 on the "PS plus collection" now?

@Steel76
Sony buys insomniac = M$ :"that's anti consumer". Things certainly change 😂

@Peach64 true, they may come to Ps5 2-3 years after, something like Sony is doing with Horizon Zero dawn for pc

Let's hope Microsoft sees money in keeping these games on PS5. If not then wow.

To those who have their heads in the console war clouds right now. You don't spend $8 billion dollars on a company to then gate off the other systems from playing said games. It would be anti-competitive and a huge PR mistake if they did so.

xBox first party games will certainly be much improved but the franchises we know from Bethesda will still be coming to Playstation so chill out.

@AdamNovice - activision's total asset value is way beyond sony's means. it's way in excess of what zenimax is worth, which MS look to have paid way over the odds for. $7.5bn seems like a bit of a financial gamble if they're betting solely on gamepass as the revenue driver.

For a gamer who's played ESO almost exclusively for the past 2 years this is shocking news. I've never been an XBOX fan and I don't buy consoles for a single game so I'm sad to have to think this could be the end of ESO on an PS console.

"all future releases — such as The Elder Scrolls 6 and Starfield — will be available via Game Pass from launch"

PC Game Pass for life! Even when it goes up to $10, it is a no brainier.

Good acquisition for the, but I don't think Sony will just let that go unchecked.. Suddenly, that rumored Take Two acquisition by Sony a few months back seems like a much more viable option.. If they're smart, that would be Sony's next move

I have always been a PS guy since PS1, and I am def. buying a PS5 around launch. But, assuming Microsoft is going to keep Bethesda titles exclusive (a big assumption at this early stage), I am going to have to find a way to play Starfield and the next Skyrim. Not playing those is not an option for me.

Now this is what Microsoft needed to do to stay competitive. I love it personally, because the stronger the competition, the more it forces Sony to respond and compete for my dollar.

Gamepass will be a no-brainer to get with this new catalog of games from Bethesda. Guess it’s time to start working on a next-gen PC build!

Now it’s one thing to spend billions on studio acquisitions, let’s see how Microsoft cultivates these studios and brings their continued success.

@AdamNovice "If I were Sony I'd try to buy Activision or Take Two now"

Ha! Only in your dreams my man.

@Kefka2589
I just don’t see how Gamepass could ever be anything but a massive black whole for MS if all they want to do is provide games on it. It was losing money even before this purchase, now they are so far in the red it must be all they can see, may as well change from MS to LM. I am so intrigued about their end goal. Just gradually ramp up the price? Sell peoples data? Advertise other products?

This is the case irrespective of whether these are multiplayer or not.

It's SNES vs Mega Drive all over again and it's horrible.

@lacerz Yep fight fire with fire!

Quite shocking news but it's not going to change my mind.

Anyhoo I though Phil Spencer was against exclusives?

🤔

@Steel76 Ι get a small loan of 10 thousand dollars, "wow, great idea". Trump gets a small loan of 1 million dollars, "NOO! That's a lot"

Yeah, apples to oranges, buddy.

@SLEEVExOFxWIZARD Well Mojang was acquired by Microsoft when Minecraft was still multiplatform so they will uphold that

same goes for the PS5 games that are happening right now like Ghostwire and Deathloop

But Starfield and TESVI are definitely about to be permanently exclusive to Xbox/PC.

@Ken_Masters How is this stupid exactly lol

Now they practically have two of the biggest WRPG studios right in the palm of their hands

@TheGamerKing Hmm that's a touch dramatic don't you think?

I loved Skyrim and would definitely play the next installment but of it's going to be on Xbox/PC only then I guess I won't.

Oh well, I'm sure Sony will continue to make great sp titles some of which will be brand new IPs. There's a lot of life left in the 'Japanese Giant' yet!

@Steel76 I mean, most of the comments here are saying it's a great acquisition by MS so what exactly are you talking about?

@AdamNovice DOOM and Wolfenstein? Hell even stuff like Evil Within and Prey did pretty well and Fallout is still popular 76 be damned

@Breity247 At least there is 3 of us that remember this.

@Daleaf
They don’t. They as much as admitted its loss making even before this purchase. Now it’s mega loss making. They clearly have a plan, I just can’t see it unless it’s to destroy the competition then become evil MS.

glad i have a pc, incase it does become exclusive

Its GREAT!
I'm not into those games 😜

Thats mental. I'd never have thought Zenimax would be bought out. At least not by Microsoft. Its not the end of the world for me as i play very few Bethesda titles. I have dishonoured 2, prey, doom and fallout 4 all sitting unplayed in my backlog from this gen. But this will certainly make alot of people buy an xbox in the future.

I think if Elder Scrolls is exclusive, that would be an absolutely huge loss to Playstation.

Seems anti-consumer from the alleged pro-consumer Microsoft, but there you go.

I hope we are reaching the end of this aquisition period. Its getting really annoying.

I dont knownhow we didnt know this was happening. I thought such purchases needed to be made public for PLC's

@lacerz They will release them 12 months later but to make up for it they will have Spiderman in them.

@Razrye888 PlayStation can have Spiderman in Avengers. Xbox.. let’s take Bethesda.

MSFT has over a 1.5 Trillion Dollar cap. I’ve said it many times. If Sony keeps playing this exclusive 3rd party deals Microsoft will have to respond. Sony is playing with fire!

This really turns my stomach. MS is being smart and doing stuff Sony can't financially do. Sony could survive what MS has done purchasing wise over the last few years. But this puts a real dirty feeling to me over the whole gaming industry. WB is about the only third party publisher left that makes decent games. Gigantic win though for MS. People will cancel PS5 pre orders and get an Xbox for Elder Scrolls and Fallour alone.

How far away are the likes of TES VI and Starfield? Probably 3 years at least. Maybe I'll pick up a cheap second hand Xbox Series XSYK or whatever the hell it's called when either of those two games are released or maybe not, we shall see.

😉

I'm not going to lie though, the next Elder Scrolls being exclusive to Xbox is a big blow to me personally and to Sony as well. Let's see how they respond.

@Ken_Kaniff that's absolute madness if people do that because of this acquisition. If anyone preordered a PS5 in order to play non-exclusive 3rd party games that Bethesda makes then they're not very smart.

@Carck Sega have had a few successes with stalwarts like Total War and Football manager, Atlus and Yakuza but all the best ‘Sega’ games of recent years (Sonic Mania, Wonderboy, Streets of Rage 4, the forthcoming Alex Kidd) have been made by external teams of fans.

Sammy just aren’t interested in pushing Sega as far as they can. They’ve been limping along for the last 2 decades and it’s a massive shame because Sega helped build the games industry. They showed that Nintendo were not invincible and they created over the years some of the greatest video games ever developed. They were a big part of my childhood and many others.

But they’ve been rotting for years. https://www.digitiser2000.com/main-page/sega-deserves-to-rot-by-mr-biffo#

I just read a press release from Zenimax that "nothing is slated to change at this time". "This time" could be next week or next year lol.

That's a big win for MS. Maybe they can fix Fallout and Skyrim

@AhmadSumadi They always say that. But things will always change.

They say that to keep the shareholders happy.

@Westernwolf4 PC. Microsoft always makes their first party titles available on PC day and date with Xbox consoles. Get a PS5 and a PC and you're basically set for next gen.

@AhmadSumadi You under estimate the audience for those games. I have friends that still play Skyrim a PS3 game to this day. Those franchises audiences are dedicated. I know quite a few people that this will change their console decisions.

@TheFrenchiestFry Thanks for this great advice! Much to consider.......

@Ken_Kaniff Fair enough. But Skyrim on PS4 was far better than the PS3 version so it's not like they didn't have the opportunity to upgrade. If ES6 is Xbox exclusive then I'll be missing it. I just hope ESO remains on PS consoles.

This seems a bit daft really & a waste of money this will become a very bad headache for MS in a few years!

This could explain Bethesda's approach to certain franchises lately. I wouldn't be surprised if this deal has been in the works for years, but first Microsoft said something like "our CEO is convinced the only way forward is a subscription-based model for software. Prove to us that you can do that." Fallout 76 is considered a turd almost universally, but I imagine it's been profitable.

You know what I find most piquant about this, is how Microsoft are going to handle Elder Scrolls Online for Playstation 4.

I mean, it's just comical to me. A microsoft studio supporting a sony product. Hilarious.

Wow this is a huge deal! It doesn’t affect my choice for next gen because I’m not into their titles but it will affect a lot of people

@Grindagger Sony's money is just as green as Xbox Studios. MSFT is laughing all the way to the bank! This is why MSFT is a 1.6 Trillion dollar company,

@Kefka2589
I doubt it. Or if they do put the games on ps5 they’ll likely not allow them on ps now as they don’t want anything to compete with Gamepass.

@Jarobusa That's not the point I was making. I'm not talking about money.

Having said that, I still don't think it's going to change things much.

Just look at Mojang for that, not like microsoft has stopped selling Minecraft to Sony, so I don't see why they'd do it with Bethesda.

In my opinion, Xbox should just jump out of the console war, and focus on games.

I wonder who buy Ubisoft next. Also Phil spencer is a lying pos.... just 2 months ago he said this

Exclusives Are ‘Completely Counter To What Gaming Is About,’ Xbox’s Phil Spencer Says

No way they will keep those games only on Xbox.
They need revenue to offset the 7.5 billion investment.
Then again, money is not something ms lacks.
I expected a move like this way sooner tbh.

It probably makes sense for MS to release some of the BIG franchises on PS too, get their customers to spend money on buying the games whilst Xbox/PC/Mobile owners can just play them through Game Pass (and/or buy them of course).

I see people talking about MS's 'recent' acquisitions of Studio's before Sony acquired Insomniac. However, if you look at ALL the studio's Sony have, MS needed to buy to catch up. Naughty Dog, Sucker Punch, Guerilla Games etc were bought by Sony to build up their portfolio and before MS started to build up theirs, there was only 3 or 4 studios. Before Sony bought Insomniac, Both Sony and MS were about on a Par, although Sony had more 'bigger' studio's with several of MS's only made 1 or 2 'smaller' games.

Before criticising, its also worth knowing the history of both Sony and Microsoft (now Xbox) studio's. MS were ALWAYS a Software Company - that was where they started. Xbox is 'more' than just the console hardware - its the 'entire' Microsoft Gaming ecosystem and that includes the Consoles, the PC and now Mobile/tablets. Even if they don't build hardware, something we know is a 'loss maker' anyway, they still playing 'Xbox' - either on PC or streamed to Android.

How this affects Sony, we will have to see. We already know that they will be selling some games to PC owners - which makes sense to me as it helps recuperate costs and increases profit margins. MS no doubt will have a choice to sell games on PS if they choose, assuming the Dev teams work on certain franchises (although they could also make 'new' IP's exclusively) and we know MS and Sony are 'not' at each others throats like the 'fanboys' and Press make out - Sony and MS made a deal a while back surrounding Azure, AI etc...

Lets see how things pan out - but it could really be a 'big' incentive now to sign up to MS and subscribe to Game Pass - whether you opt to buy MS built Hardware (console) or not (PC, Mobile/tablet).

@Kefka2589
I don’t think it is. It’s no coincidence MS bought them just before the next gen release. They want people going to Xbox and this will do it.
Besides, their “for the consumers” hubristic rubbish is just that. I’ll never forget their insistence that XB1 would outpower PS4 using the cloud, or that the X would have VR integration with Occulus. They’ll flat out lie.

surprising news of course, but it confirms that microsoft has no faith in growing and nurturing its own internal studios into something special. microsoft has just admitted that they cannot compete against sony in the 1st party space and can only survive by puchasing studios like a blood starved wolf. nothing to congratulate here. microsoft has money and it merely spent it. that does not require any talent. sony 1st party puts all of zenimax studios to shame... ID is the only one i respect of the bunch.

Don't you just hate when losers (MS) try to buy their way to success ?
They steal good things from the industry but they don't provide anything useful by themselves.
No more Doom and Wolfenstein for me then. No way I support MS and their lying boss Phil Spencer that's for sure.

@Carck what has the last 4 years brought though? Fan-led remakes that have nothing to do with the original developers, Atlus who are outside Sammy’s conservative business culture and the western launch of an 8-year-old MMORPG that lacks the simplicity of its forebear.

Look at the franchises section of Sega’s website: all aquisitions and nothing internally developed bar Yakuza which itself was an offshoot of Shenmue.

It’s not been all bad. Sega’s relationship with indie devs is fantastic and they’ve done a great job of updating some of their most beloved franchises. Their merchandise operation is fantastic.

But you can put your fingers in to ears as much as you want because bar Yakuza the last truly great internally-developed Sega game that really stood out was the original Valkyria Chronicles on the PS3 in 2008.

Massive Dishonored fan, yep this hurts. Heres hoping they come to PS5. But I have no interest in owning a XBox if they don't. So may think about getting a good gaming PC down the line.

@SuperKMx
Mate, you can watch a presentation they did with the guys from Oculus. I didn’t imagine it.

And Jim Ryan (who is a dick as far as I’m concerned) said he believed in generations and that there should be next generation only games, it was the media who took that to mean there would be no cross gen games at all. And fanboys.

I’m with Sony this gen for their Japanese games (MS caught me with lost Odyssey and blue Dragon last generation and I learnt my lesson) but, due to Sony’s disgusting censorship policies, would be happy to go back to MS or Ninty again if they had as many games I wanted.

I’m in no “race”, I’ve played through console generations from companies that don’t even exist as platform holders any more, so the concept is ridiculous to me. Sony snd MS could leave the game at any time.

@SuperKMx
No not that one. Shortly after Xbox announced that Xbox X would be home for high fidelity VR, he did a sit down with the guys from oculus. I’ve been trying to find the vid and can’t for the life of me. Seems it’s been removed but I’ll try to drag it up.
Then they changed their minds, reportedly because they didn’t think VR could be mainstream until it was wireless (which may or may not be true).
Nothing to do with streaming.

Just called the misses that two consoles will be bought.

@Royalblues Sega would be far greater than Bethesda. The impact would be far reaching. I highly doubt it though. A nice fun thought though.

Wow. This one stings a bit. Hopefully everything that has been announced thus far will still come to ps5. Cant say i was particularly over the moon tho.

@Royalblues Did you not care to take a read under the title"Playstation Console Exclusive" where it said it would be timed?

I'm pretty sad knowing that if their games become console exclusive, I will never play Fallout again. And it is my most beloved third party franchise.

That's a BIG hit on PS5.
No new DOOM, TESVI or Starfield for Sony probably...

It’s weird, it feels like Microsoft were asleep the whole of the x1 generation but have now woken up and remembered they’re in the console business...

@Menchi Only one small thing they where almost a exclusive Playstation developer. One game on Xbox that probably didnt sell so too much because it didnt spawn a lot of other games.

This is an almighty acquisition. I'll probably buy an Xbox just to play the new Elder Scrolls and Fallout games. Then I'll feel all dirty and have a shower.

@DonJorginho yeah I will definitely have to buy the xbox once they drop the elder scrolls trailer in a few weeks!

Wow! What a load of crap. So sick of seeing this happening. But whatever.

@Robocod Playstation is not in the position,to have this opinion.

Love the Dishonored series. I will miss it no doubt (at least until I am able to build a PC).

Screw this, ok I'm mad right now, I shouldn't have to be forced to buy a god dam Xbox for Bethesda games, I already have to do this with Nintendo and I'm certainly not going to do this with the Xbox one X! 😤😤😤😡😡😡

@NomNom why do you think I'm worked up right now? 😡😡😡😡😡

@Ken_Masters Keyword being might

Since Bethesda is essentially a first party Xbox studio now at worst existing franchises will be permanently exclusive to Xbox and PC, and at best they'll be timed exclusives for long periods of time

You can easily say that Sony moneyhatting Final Fantasy XVI and VII Remake is also a stupid decision since those games are eventually coming to PC and Xbox in the future as well, so why should this be any different. If anything Xbox might finally get the compelling exclusives people love to make fun of them for.

Wow huge news! Big move by Microsoft. Hope Bethesda can still launch games on PS5 and switch.

when developers see the huge ps5 sales and install base they wont have much choice but develop for the platform..

@SuperKMx have you not seen how naughty dog has grown over the past 20 years? they went from making crash bandicoot to some of the most impressive narrative driven experience in the gaming industry. same applies to sony santa monica and guerilla. i guess you think that magically happened without any development, culture or growth? all that is the result of sony nurturing its in-house development studios. can you find a single studio in microsoft's stable that has impressed anybody outside of turn10? my point stands. microsoft has no hope in developing it's own internal studios and can only resort to spending their money on acquiring them. it's not like besthesda studios is known to be a top tier talent anyways... they contantly fall on their face and keep their games together with nothing more than sticks and ducktape.

@TheGamerKing it would definitely be a blow but not done for. I think you have a little too much faith in how these games stand up against some of the exclusive PS games that have been very popular this gen.

I am team blue and admittedly I do love the elder scrolls series. However, for me this doesn't change anything. Its a blow to the gut certainly but I am not willing to trade up the other IP's I have enjoyed on PS for any Bethesda game. Now if MS took on Square Enix and some of the Konami IP exclusively I would embrace any Xbox fan as brother

This is why I'm a PC/PlayStation gamer

@huyi You can still play them on PC for sure.

@Grindagger competition is good. Its a scary thought if Sony didn't have MSFT to compete with.

@DonJorginho Many ppl have suggested Capcom could be a good buy for Sony! I'd agree. But this is a mega buy for Microsoft. Crazy price but some sweet future titles with guaranteed exclusivity I'd say.

@SuperKMx you didn't answer the question. other than turn10, does microsoft have an intetnal studio that has proved to be talented or successful enough to compete with sony's studios? since you won't answer the question i will do it for you. NO. why is that you may ask? because they don't know a single thing when it comes to nurturing talent and creating a sense of culture. they also don't know anything about project management. scalebound cancelled... halo infanite is a disaster behind the scenes and likely to be a year delay. o yea, let's not forget about the mess and medicority that was crackdown 3 or sea of thieves. but yea, let's put microsoft and sony on the same level when discussing 1st party studios. get real.

RIP Sony, JK. But seriously this is a power move, ps5 will be hurt if they lock it out of massive games like Elder Scrolls. But still this would not make me buy an Xbox as I could just play them on Xcloud

@Spinachie TES6 won't be coming out for another 4 years.

@ApostateMage Aquiring a company that does mostly japanese market aimed games will do nothing.
Capcom would be a good idea though. It would secure Resident Evil, Street fighter, monster hunter, Devil may cry and Dragon's dogma.
Square enix would be another option, but less effective. Final fantasy, kingdom hearts, dragon quest, tomb raider, avengers.

The ideal purchase would be EA or take 2. But those are too big to buy.

@SuperKMx the point went over your head. microsoft has been in the game since 2001 with the original xbox and all they have to show for over the past 19 years is turn10? all the others studios have failed to deliver time and time again. of course sony has acquired various studios over time... but it also managed to grow them into something far superior to what they were originally. THAT was the point.

no **** they didn't develop scalebound, but they were publishing and manageing the project. over 2/3 complete and they cancelled it so late in development? again, it shows a lack of understanding and competence. sony could have canned the last guardian but instead decided to give it the time and care it needed to see a release. a true passion project that is all but gone from the AAA industry. microsoft would have killed the last guardian the second it hit a development hurdle because that is how they operate.

halo infinite is delayed because the project lacked a clear vision from the getgo and was not coming along due to poor project management. making it a cross gen title does it no favours and is likely a major factor to it being so troubled. the game is delayed, despite being in development for 5 years, because 343 is a half assed studio. microsoft probably knew for months leading up to the announcement that it wasn't going to be ready for launch. it just used the halo brand to hype up its console in a sly way because it has NOTHING else to announce. halo infinite is going to be yet another typical microsoft exclusive i suppose... medicore or slightly above average. microsoft knows this. everyone knows this... why else would they spend $7.5b on purchasing proven studios? because it doesn't have any of its own. quite simple.

With Phil Spencer’s strategy I wish they would buy EA and relieve the world from this evil and release those killed IPs.

@Porco very well written and great analysis, could not agree more.

@Fenbops yeah you will really enjoy the launch games, smart move buddy.

Man, if XBOX decides to make all of Bethesda IPs exclusive, plus game pass it is checkmate. Or at least a draw. I'm gonna need to buy an Xbox.

To be honest this acquisition is not a game over. We know already which games are gonna come out to the PS4/PS5. This deal will not affect anyone until 3-4yrs down the line.
TES game and Starfall are huge games and Microsoft aint going to short change themselves but will they definitely get them earlier than PlayStation owners, will expect that to be true.

@SegaBlueSky Completely agree. I haven't really liked a Bethesda game since Skyrim, but I can't deny Microsoft is definitely showing up for the 9th generation.

@Menchi Dafuq ?

@Dr-M I will thanks, Gears Tactics and Yakuza Like a Dragon 👍🏻

@Porco
I m not sure that Ms knew they were going to delay Halo though. It's actually mind blowing they showed that demo thinking that would be good enough to show. The worse part is precisely that was the level of quality they thought was acceptable and Ray tracing as a dlc. It's only the back lash that made them change their mind.

Nothing changes for me. Not a big fan of the elder scrolls series or fallout. Doom is nice to have, but no disaster if not. Never liked the newer Wolfenstein. I am looking forward to play Miles Morales and Zero Dawn Forbidden West. Hopefully a new Uncharted and TLOU3. If they make elder scrolls and fallout exclusive. Sony will be forced to retaliate. Nobody wants that. I had an Xbox 360. Now PS4 and Nintendo Switch. I will stay with PlayStation and Nintendo Switch not because I don’t like Xbox. But the games I want to play are mainly on PlayStation and the switch is nice for on the go. . It’s all about the games for me. The hardware is just a necessity. Also I like the cheaper VR experience with PlayStation. Microsoft started something stupid with an acquisition like this. It’s good to have exclusives, but independent studios with multi platform games are equally important! Hopefully this doesn’t end in Sony and Microsoft owning most of the studios. We will be the losers being forced to buy both their hardware just to be able to play our favorite games.

I'm been interested in a XSS since the price announcement if I can play all my old games on one machine then it's a buy for me and still be able to play some decent current games on it then great. I have some 360 games you can get on pc because that's now my main platform but play like crap or don't have controller support (here's looking at you Mas Effect 1 2 and 3 and yes I know about mods but I shouldn't have too when the game was on console and Bioware couldn't be bothered to bring x input on pc as well)

It's not a game over for PlayStation because they have and will have the games, MS will get Elder Scrolls 6 and others but I doubt they will stop it coming to ps5 because it would claw back money from the buy out not much but it will bring fill that bigger loss they have from the console sales as well.

MS I don't think will have anything decent until it's 2nd into 3rd year for new IPs, but for me the backwards compatibility is a winner for me

@Zeke68 in what way were you supporting them in past, if you do not mind me asking?

@PeakyBlinder Many Playstation fans are hypocrites. They think it's good and ok when Sony buys studios, but if Microsoft do it, it's bad.

Konami even started trending on twitter because Playstation fans were begging Sony to buy them as a response.

@Menchi Lol, you do know that it goes both ways ? Xbox fanboys were the ones saying exclusivity is bad but are now begging MS to keep all Bethesda properties as exclusives. Eitherway, Sony was looking to buy studios long before this news and Konami seems like reasonable purchase which they could afford.

@TrolleyProblems
I worked indirectly for them as IT technichian. Never again I tell you that.

The only option for Sony is to buy Konami! As their IPs are sweet sweet and need revival

@PeakyBlinder Don't waste your time with him. All he does is attack Sony and praise PCs. It takes 3 seconds to check out his recent posts to see what I mean. He's transparent as a window.

@SuperKMx "and no PS5 games will be releasing on PS4, though? "

When did he say that?

If I was at Sony I'd be reaching out to all the owned studios and be offering them more money and time to make even more games.

Give Naughty Dog the big bucks to make their own Starfield rival, get the talented people at Sucker Punch to make a fantasy RPG to top TES, ask Barlog and all at Santa Monica what's their dream project after God of War 2(5). They have an awful lot of talent, expertise and experience at their disposal.

Yesterday was a major win for Xbox but it's just one battle and the war is far from over.

@SuperKMx Do you have a source for that? I'm not doubting your credibility, I just would like to research myself.

Edit: about them publishing their own games.

@PeakyBlinder Of course it goes both ways, but we're on here with the Sony side. When Sony do it I'll be on the other side pointing out the same thing.

@SuperKMx ok thanks!

I don't know why people think all will be exclusive. Some will, some won't. MS is smart enough to know money comes first, and if they think they will make more if its also on PS5 it will be.

Besides the big games like starfield(or what ever its called) and elder scrolls are most likely late 2022 games at least, so no rush to dump ps5 preorders for that. Get the ps5 and save a few bucks a month for the next few years till they are released then get an xbox as well.

I bet Sony wish they weren’t utter dicks about cross play now haha

It's funny to see people comparing a trillion dollar company to a billion dollar company.
Xbox is just a tiny division for Microsoft, console war is a joke, it's only for kids to feel that they matter.
Sony will be using Microsoft cloud service in the future, Sony and Microsoft are not really competing. It would be almost impossible for Sony to buy a studio as big as Bethesda, but for Microsoft this was pocket money, they could purchase Bethesda 10 times and not even feel, Sony would have to make a big time sacrifice to aquire a company as big as Bethesda. So chill out people, Sony and Microsoft are not enemies.

The only thing PlayStation needs to do is keep making great triple A games and all will be good. And buy from time to time smaller developers to make sure their intellectual property and creativity is protected. No need to buy big publishers. They can’t anyways. Sony will never use game pass. Why should they? Even if Microsoft would own 90% of the game market. As long as PlayStation sells consoles and makes beloved games they are good. You don’t need to be number one to be profitable. Quality over quantity! It’s all about games. I never saw a sack full of money be creative.