Sony Buys Ex-Halo, Destiny Developer Bungie for $3.6 Billion

Whoa!!! One of the best shooter developers ever. That’s huge.

Get them making Killzone please.

Bear with us everyone — story should be filled out momentarily. A lot of details to cover.

Okay, THAT’S a good clapback. Sony is going to get a solid FPS exclusive on lock from a move like this for sure.

Cue usual suspects now celebrating this. I’m so f***ing done. An arms race is not good for anybody.

And the plot thickens…

Got off the Destiny bus a while ago but hopefully they’ll bring something new to the table.

Nice, now buy Capcom and Squeeenix

makes sense they do something like this.

kinda out of need just to keep those big 3rd party games on PS you know.

absolutely bonkers, but very poggers indeed.

They both need to stop

Makes sense honestly. If activision makes COD exclusive for Xbox eventually then having the original Halo dev for a new sony exclusive FPS makes sense

"We ain't that poor y'know" - SONY.

bizarre but more of a shrewd move than the mountains paid for Activision

Let the arms race begin…

It says they'll still remain multiplatform with an option to self-publish so yet again this does nothing for PlayStation owners expecting exclusive games.

100% b/c of Microsoft’s buyout

They did hold trading for this? Strange that this didnt happen for ActiBlizz and so no one expected anything

Sony strikes back and this time it’s personal!

I know the excitement is palpable as Sony has seemed to take punch after punch lately, but I will echo that consolidation is dangerous for the industry. This is igniting the Cold War of this generation, so I will be curious to see where it leads.

This is exactly what I was afraid of going into this gen. And I feel we're just getting started.

Couldn't care less about Destiny, feel like the money could have been better spent elsewhere. But I'm happy for PS Destiny fans.

Wait, what?

It's like transfer deadline day but for developers.

Sony made a smart purchase at a small fraction of the money spent by Microsoft. Bungie is an extremely talented developer and Destiny 2 is a massive hit that still has millions of active players even after several years of launch. Destiny gunplay is the best in the FPS industry and they can create new IPs for Sony with that knowledge.

this is getting funny 😂

too bad bungie sucks , what do they have besides destiny ?

that's a panic move if I ever seen one, wtf??

So, Microsoft gets Call of Duty and Sony gets a new Halo-like IP? Great move to ensure we have great FPS games on PlayStation.

I do hope they keep their hands off Square Enix, Capcom and Ubisoft, though, both Sony and Microsoft.

Interesting to see Sony buying a studio which hasn't developed (almost) exclusively for Sony for years

Would have preferred it if they'd stumped up the extra few billion for Bethesda tbh

I wonder what their plans are for the studio, just more destiny or something bigger in mind? Maybe a Killzone? Seeing as Bungie are great at making guns feel good and play well that could be a good project for them

Destiny is the only FPS I bother with and that's because I play with my brother as it's his favorite series. Happy it's on the Playstation side this time, but I'm not a fan of these large acquisitions regardless of who's doing it.

That’s a lot of money for one studio. But they do need to secure a FPS legacy in case MS pulls COD

Please for the love of God nobody buy SEGA. Only way I'll ever step away from gaming is if Ryu Ga Gotoku Studio's games go exclusive some place that isn't Playstation.

Please don’t lose out on Square Enix and Sega/Atlus if they’re selling 😭😭 I’d be so depressed not to be able to play Persona 6 (even if rumors are PS has signed on P6 as an exclusive). I feel like it’s now a game of hot potato between Sony & MS. If they don’t buy something in response, they drop the potato. Damn that wasn’t a good analogy but I tried

No, no no, this is stupid.

Is this a joke? No Square Enix and no Capcom or even Sega?

Get them have a TPS option pls. I know. Unpopular opinion haha

No wonder I saw my Sony stocks suddenly jump in price...

This isn’t a “strike back”; deals usually take months to iron out the details. Bungie was looking for a buyer for a while. They just coincided around the same time.

Don't care for Bungie. But honestly don't like where this is going anymore. Gaming is gonna turn to absolute garbage fast at this rate (more then it already is)

@nomither6
For Sony, it is not about stealing/locking established third-party IPs and franchises. It is about acquiring talent and Bungie is the most experienced and talented FPS dev out there. Destiny is still one of the most played shooters in the industry. Sony will probably use them to make new games or reboot existing shooter IPs like Resistance or Killzone.

SURELY they're not worth anywhere near that. I can't believe Insomniac didn't even break HALF a MILLION and these are in the multiple billions.

EDIT: That was meant to be half a Billion. B.

Bungie surely issnt worth so much? They basically only have the Destiny IP

"However, it's been confirmed that Bungie will remain a "multiplatform studio" with the ability "to self-publish and reach players wherever they choose to play." That means Destiny and future Bungie games will still be on Xbox."

Excellent news. Take note, MS.

@Snake_V5
You can only buy a company that is willing to be bought. If SE or CAPCOM don't want to be bought then nobody can do anything about it. Bungie management was looking for a buyer for a while just like Activision so Sony bought them. It give them an experienced and talented shooter developer.

Oh all them posts from Sony know it alls saying they only buy companies they have relationships with unlike microsoft... Do they ? Hmmmmmm

Gd buy for Sony worth the money if they can get a gd few shooter games out that aren't destiny

@nookie_egg Exactly! It's a good purchase, but 4bn!? That's almost the price paid by Disney to buy the whole Star Wars franchise!
Who can even compare Bungie with the entirety of Star Wars!? I feel like Sony didn't get that good a deal...

@OneWingedAngel Does this mean Halo can now be on PlayStation?

@OneWingedAngel “ Bungie is the most experienced and talented FPS dev out there.”

that would be respawn/old infinity ward , but i hear you

And now Sony joins the buying wars. Taking choice away. Way to open the floodgates Microsoft.

@nomither6 I heard they made this awesome FPS series called Halo! 👀

@Medic_Alert
Because you think Sony didn’t know long before ?
Come on. I said so at the time. Sony is no noob company.

From the sound of things, this isn't something for PlayStation exclusivity. It sounds more like it's something that will bring money in from all platforms and I imagine Sony will be allowed to make movies, shows etc. from Bungie IP. So summary, Bungie will be Bungie on all platforms and Sony will take a cut of the money.

@nookie_egg Name recognition from Halo and then Destiny being extremely popular.

People shouldn't just shrug this off. I get why Activision/Blizzard was a big deal, but I think this is a good buy for Sony. Sure, Destiny never turned out to be as good as it probably should have, but it's still very popular. Bungie's games also play very well, as the gunplay in the Halo games they made were all very good. I would imagine it would be the same with Destiny, but it was other things that rubbed people the wrong way. Give them Killzone, Resistance, or even a new IP and watch them return to form under Sony.

What a twist, indeed.

I have to imagine this is retribution for Xbox owning Crash and Spyro, right?

Anyway, this is garbage and the industry is garbage. It is nowhere near as bad as Microsoft's acquisitions, but it's still garbage.

@Olmaz
Actually $3.6 billion. That is $400 million less than $4 Billion. You cannot just round $400 million. lol It is nowhere near the $69 billion that MS spent to by Activision.

If anything, Sony pledging to allow Bungie to remain multiplatform makes Microsoft look like the clear villains if they continue to refuse to release Bethesda and Activision games for PlayStation. Maybe this can gather momentum and Sony can get the players to turn the tables on Microsoft just like Microsoft did to Sony about cross-play.

@Olmaz Ripped off is how I'd describe it lol. But there's obviously some good faith in them from Jimster.

Uh oh 😟

What is going on

The statement implies to me that Bungie and Sony share a vision in which we will be seeing Destiny (and perhaps other Bungie properties) move to mediums outside of games. Could be the fulcrum point of the deal.

People seem to be missing the fact that this isnt the same as the deals that where made when Sony bought insomniac and bluepoint etc
Bungie is still technically their own independent company and everything will be multiplatform still.

Now calm down, give these guys good budget and let them develop a fantastic ego-shooter game and f**k this goddamn Activision with its Kindergarten CoD!!

I don't get any of this acquisition stuff - paying billions for what is ultimately a brand name and an office building (and in some cases an IP). The talent that makes these games are free to move around at will, as seen by every studio always going on a recruitment drive when making a new game.

They're simply making sure they can still have a say in the FPS market. This makes a LOT of sense. Take the goggles off folks. PS has had exclusive Destiny content for a while now.

@Gloamin But didn't Bungie create Halo though and now Sony will own Bungie.

@OneWingedAngel “Bungie is the most experienced and talented FPS developer out there.”

Weird way to spell Id software but okay.

@Salt_AU When you remember that Zenixmax was <10 Billion while bringing tons of IPs and Studios then this sounds pretty bad

Presuming these games remain multiplatform this is the RIGHT way to do it. NOT locking multiplatform games away from players on other systems.
Doesn’t really impact me though as I’m not a big fan of these games. I played Destiny for 6 months before the first reset, and hated the floaty Halo series, so…

I would like to see Bungie's take on Killzone or Resistance but the wording of this really doesn't make it sound like they'll be working on things like that.

The thought of this happening did run through my head a few times but I never thought it would actually happen. Imagine Destiny 3 as a playstation exclusive. That might just be enough to counteract losing Call of Duty.

What a waste of money...

@KilloWertz Yeah, but Insomniac had huge games under their belts (Ratchet series being the biggest I'd imagine, before they did Spidey which catapulted the ps4 sales through the roof) and they were bought for what, $250m? that's peanuts. That's the change Sony would find down the settee. And they not only get a load of games out the door, but they do it quickly and deliver polished products.
I get destiny etc are quite big names, but not $4b names. FPS really isn't my genre, but there's no bias on my side, I just can't see how the studio is worth that much.

@daveofduncan yeah , halo 1-reach is awesome indeed , GOATS even .

but micro$oft bought it from them and bungie lost a prized possession

@Snake_V5 halo is owned by micro$oft now

From their FAQs:

Q. Bungie has future games in development, will they now become PlayStation exclusives? ​

No. We want the worlds we are creating to extend to anywhere people play games. We will continue to be self-published, creatively independent, and we will continue to drive one, unified Bungie community. ​

@Marquez i didn’t know playstation players would be this pleased about a FPS multiplayer developer acquisition . i’m shocked lol.

The scenes if they buy capcom too..... lol

@Snake_V5
Nope. Bungie sold them the Halo IP when they left Microsoft.

So this is where the PS Plus and PS Now game budget for February went? Well, ok, at least it's a good investment

That is a huge news wowwww😳😲.good job sony.more destiny the better.sony needs a fps shooter.woww.word up son

Prep for when they lose CoD, makes sense.

Please. Make another type of game. Not ANOTHER third person dramatic cinematic action adventure like the last 20 games. Where are the first person Sony games???? I miss Resistance.

H*ll yes! Destiny has a massive amount of potential; Sony will definitely help Bungie get it to where it should be. Not to mention they’d be phenomenal for games like Killzone or Resistance.

@nomither6 lack of a good 1st party FPS is a common complaint about PlayStation studios

Seems like great PR for Sony. Want Bungie IP? - we are happy to play ball and release on all platforms - so Microsoft, how about letting us keep COD in exchange.

Given most of the bigger FPS franchises are exclusive to microsoft, Sony needed something so i dont get the complaints. Microsoft (and the likes of Embracer group and Tencent) started all this - and Sony havent given any BS responses - they have openly said bungie will remain multiplatform rather than dancing around the question.

And also why should Sony sit idly by, and get aggressively pushed out of the gaming business. I wouldn't be surprised to seem them snap someone else up this year if they can.

For those saying Sony should have bought Square Enix, what if Square don't want to be sold? I am sure Sony will be in the conversation should the opportunity ever arise

I also suspect this deal was in the works before the Activision deal as that clearly was Microsoft taking advantage of a tumbling stock price in light of all of the allegations at Acti Blizzard- so this may not be as reactionary as people think. Aquisitions dont happen overnight

@nomither6 Surely you’re not saying CoD shooting feels as good as Destiny? We are playing very different games if that’s what you meant.

A "very stupid" arms race continues. I have no idea how Bungie is worth $3.6B. This was not the acquisition I was expecting. I really did think Sony would make a move on Square Enix to protect Final Fantasy.

A lot of people on here aren't reading. The studio will remain multiplatform.

I'm not going to pretend like I care about this acquisition because Bungie has never made a game I've liked, but I'm open to seeing what they can accomplish under the PlayStation umbrellas.
Honestly that 3.6 Billion Dollars would have been better spent on Square Enix, Capcom, Arc System Works, WB Gaming Division, Ember Labs, FromSoftware (Kadokawa) etc.

@nomither6
Bungie has been around for over 30 years founded in 1991. They created Halo that defines Xbox and Destiny has the best gunplay of any FPS. Infinity Ward was founded in 2002, 11 years later. CoD was extremely popular but the gunplay is nowhere near Destiny in terms of depth.

For people that are unaware, Bungie has old IP's under their belt, yes the sold Halo off.. but they do still have franchises such as Marathon - Halo was actually marathons spiritual successor. Very talented group and could easily create the next FPS for sony.

This is going to be a very scary generation at this rate. Anyway in a business sense, this is pretty savvy of Sony to do and will definitely help soften the blow of potentially losing COD. My favorite shooter series of all time, Halo, started with Bungie and while I wasn't as into Destiny, I'm interested to see what comes from them next.

@Voltan that’s true , didn’t know it was a complaint though . well , let’s hope we get some unique and next gen fresh ideas for the FPS genre . no more battle royale please

@GMoney2432
No problem. At least they are talented dev who can create new shooter IPs for Sony. Sony or its fans are not interested in stealing/locking established third-party franchises. They are only interested in acquiring talent that can create great games.

The thing with acquisitions is you're "kind of" getting the talent, but mostly what you're paying for is the IPs and the tech behind the scenes. Talents leave and form their own studios, a lot, but the IPs and proprietary tech stays.

@VanguardKaiser Nah, buyouts like this don't happen in such a short span of time — this will have likely been hammered out months ago.

Is it a response to Microsoft buying Activision? Hard to say. You have to imagine that a company like Sony would have known about Microsoft's plans for a long time before it actually happened.

Sony's had a good relationship with Bungie ever since the original Destiny, so this does make sense when viewing the full picture. It's possible that Microsoft's moves have pushed Sony to finalise and announce the deal ahead of time — but there's no real way of knowing.

This is the game MS wants to play. A financial arms race that MS knows they can’t lose. I don’t think it’ll be good for the industry in the long run.

@OneWingedAngel uh , so Apex Legends and Titanfall aren’t contenders ?

Apex legends is over 3x as big as destiny

also let’s compare infinity wards last cod - mw2 (2009) to the halo at the time halo 3 (2007)

mw2 was revolutionary for the entire genre

@OneWingedAngel Doom 2016 and Eternal>Destiny when it comes to gunplay tbh

Given my gaming habits - none of this business is troubling to me but if devs start getting acquired which make games I play, and it’s not acquired by PS, it’ll be a sad day for me.

"Sweet. I was just hoping for a Destiny 3." Said no one, ever.

I’d say this a big loss for Xbox and a big win for PlayStation but I’d be lying. Bungie are just simply no longer the same developer they were when they made the Halo series. Most of the key people have since left, the studio is a shadow of it’s former self.

They’ve developed two games from the same IP within 12 years, I’m hoping with this acquisition they will start to develop other IPs otherwise I’d be rolling my eyes if they announced Destiny 3 🙄

Also despite it joining PlayStation Studios it is staying independent and will still release their games on other platforms. So I’m wondering why Sony bothered to acquire them at all? 🤔

@Jeaz Read please before you start spouting crap.

@Sakisa
lol. Yeah, they are amazing too.

The reason this is terrible news is that whateber game they develop will take the place of a game that people actually want.

@FatalBubbles respawn/old infinity ward made these games -

MW2 (last COD that they created)
Apex Legends
Titanfall

i’d say they’re up there , if not , higher than bungie

I hope Bungie continues to release games on Xbox. The messaging here sounds like it, but could go either way.

Now Sony can have their futuristic FPS Hola where you play as Mestre Jefe

@nomither6 I’ve played every game you listed. They don’t hold a candle to Bungie in terms of shooting.

Love a good twist!

Maybe now Sony will have an exclusive FPS again

@Medic_Alert You probably still get all the money they make on all platforms so maybe thats a thing. But what do i know does Destiny have a lot of recurring players?

@nessisonett I'm just glad Japan has mostly been exempt from this arms race. I'd be devastated if SEGA or Square-Enix got snatched up.

@Sakisa
No way bud. Each gun in Destiny has its archetypes, impact, recoil severity, recoil direction, firing rate, range fall off, accuracy cones, in air accuracy, hit scan vs projectile weapons, etc. etc. You really need to think about the guns and get used to them. What has Doom got out of those?

Well done Sony. Well done Microsoft
Now let’s get on with gaming.

Ugh. More consolidation is bad for the industry. I get it, Sony has to have rights to a FPS before they all get bought up, but still stinks.

Madness… didn’t see that coming. In an ideal world, I’d rather all 3rd parties remain that way… but this ain’t an ideal world, so kudos to Sony, for a decent move all things considered! 🤔

@ATaco "Joins"...? Did you miss Sony buying Insomniac, Housemarque, Bluepoint, and Firesprite over the last few years?

@FatalBubbles 😂 agree to disagree 😂

@MaccaMUFC I don’t think future projects will be multi-platform. Maybe? I don’t see it. I imagine Sony will have them revive old IPS or create something new. Like you, I’m hoping they don’t do something like Destiny 3, but rather pool that talent into a different series. Anything they whip up won’t be on Xbox, but I could be wrong. Regardless, I think shooter fans on PlayStation have something to be excited for.

@Snake_V5 Mocrosoft owns that.

@Medic_Alert i dunno, activision and now this is leading me to suspect that initial discussions maybe don't take as long as we thought.

@nomither6
They are great games too but Destiny gunplay is really deep. You need to play it to realize it.

Btw it was public knowledge for months Sony had job avert looking for ‘non organic’ acquisition. The press just didn’t report it.

And yes Blame Ms for it.

LOL

Everyone on here so excited about this, and praising Sony. I can't help but laugh.....3.6 BILLION......3.6 BILLION.....Again, 3.6 BILLION, for a company that has ONE original IP that they actually own....ONE, JUST ONE and it is an IP that has always been strife with controversy.

They are paying to damn much for a development team that has only shown that FPS are their thing. 3.6 Billion for a one dimensional developer. Activision/Blizzard has MANY popular I.P.s. I can't help but think this is a poor knee jerk reaction from Sony. They would have been better off buying Ember Lab for cheap and letting them do their thing and MAYBE, looking into acquiring EA. This is Microsoft and Rare all over again.

This acquisition is only going to make better, top tier developers, worth even more.

@OneWingedAngel yeah , maybe …

maybe when destiny 3 or their next game drops i guess . i couldn’t get into destiny 2 , granted it was the free version i played , but …

@OneWingedAngel since when? It's always exclusive this or exclusive that.

@Ralizah It’s really worrying seeing people actively wanting Capcom and Square Enix to be bought over. They’re doing fine just now, I don’t understand why people are obsessed with seeing their side ‘win’ other than saddo jingoism.

Almost 4 billion for a studio to continue doing exactly what it was doing before. What was the point in this. I swear Ryan/Hurst will be the end of Playstation.

Edit: You gotta love all the comments who only read the headlines and are screaming from the rooftops as if this was a win for Playstation 🤡😆. READ THE ARTICLE...NOTHING CHANGES. THERE GAMES WILL STILL RELEASE ON ALL PLATFORMS.

i doubt this will lead to any exclusives for sony which is great i want as many of this studios experienced by all who enjoy it

@Kriandis
It’s business. They get the Bungie profits and growth potential and feel that’s worth the money. It probably is, especially given everything is remaining multiplatform. They have talent and are seemingly looking to help Sony push into other media spaces and build out franchises that everyone can enjoy.
I’m no FPS fan, but I can only see this as a good thing AS LONG AS EVERYTHING REMAINS MULTIPLATFORM.

@Kriandis like @voltan mentioned , sony doesn’t really have any 1st party FPS so it could be a good acquisition. with sonys imagination & bungies history , maybe something really special can come outta this . i am dying for some originality in gaming and something new after all

@mrtennis1990

It escalated with Bethesda, maybe even before that with Tencent.

@Salt_AU ..washed up IPs ?? CoD Vanguard was the biggest selling game of last year, not to mention the yet to come hundreds of millions from microtransactions. World of Warcraft has 8m players paying £9 per month still....any publisher would be happy to have them. Plus I'd bet MS have big plans for revitalising all the other IPs. And I'd put my house on WoW coming to consoles for MS to combat FF14

@nessisonett
I want Sony to buy them simply because I have a PS5 and am concerned MS would buy them. I’m perfectly happy for all the games to remain multiplatform, unlike MS. Losing Sega, and so Yakuza…that would hit me far more than any other acquisition MS could make. FF too with SE

The transfer window closes in a few hours. Let’s see what happens.

Xbox owns Crash and Playstation owns the house that built Halo... wild times

Loved halo on the 360. Played all of them multiple times and still play the campaigns today. Never touched destiny. Looter shooters aren’t my thing. Looking forward to what they cook up for PlayStation.

@Snake_V5 the Halo IP is owned by Microsoft. It will never come to playstation

I do have to say, it's a lot of money for a developer with 1 game.. that's going to stay multiplat.

It sounds like the sole reason for the purchase is to NOT lose out on another FPS.

Platformers - check
Open World - check
Action Adventure- check
Sports - check
Shooters - double check

@Medic_Alert Could've been a reaction to the Bethesda buy out?

Y'know what this reminds me of?
When Sony helped Kojima get his own studio off the ground by helping finance Death Stranding and Guerrilla letting him use their engine for the game.
Bungie will remain independent and can use the funds from Sony's purchase to better their own games while simultaneously helping with the first party devs on various projects. Sounds like a win/win for both parties in my eyes.

From Sonys Jim Ryan statement

Bungie’s successful track record in multi-format publishing and live game services will assist us in realizing our ambitions to take PlayStation beyond the console and increase our potential audience.

I smell pc day ones coming ( form a queue to say noooooo Sony wouldnt do that )

@Smash41 Not a bad idea. Especially as Guerrilla games will probably want to make at least one more Horizon game.

While I hate the overall consolidation of the industry, as an American who bought a PS5 and can’t — at least for now — afford to buy an Xbox or a PC, all I can say is I’m glad it wasn’t Tencent and I’m glad it wasn’t Microsoft.

@nessisonett Blame MS mate plus it doesn't sound as Bungie games will be exclusive to PS.

So, you know, calm down a tad.

Anyway, maybe Sony bought Bungie to stop Tencent or Google from getting their grubby hands on them.

😉

@nomither6 That’s fine, people like different styles of shooting. I’m guessing you’re a CoD fan while I can’t enjoy them at all, probably the big difference. Granted I’ve only played 2 or 3 of them. I’m also a Halo fan. I’ve loved the shooting in every Bungie game they’ve made.

Oooft some of the management tier at bungie will be getting a big payday and chances are, will be walking away from bungie in 12 - 18 months when the terms of the acquisition deal expire and they can cash in their shares. In a weird way, hopefully some of these acquisitions fund new indie and development studios of the future, as the studio leads who are getting paid out decide to start again with the windfall.

@Martsmall I think Sony would do it, but only 2-4 years after PS release.

@Royalblues "This was an "organic" purchase, remember everyone. They built Bungie from the ground up."

You made lol 😁 I personally think they overpaid for a studio with what one IP!? I wish they kept that money and waited for a Capcom or a studio with more than one ip.

@nookie_egg Insomniac owned nothing though. Big difference.

@Arcnail I think they made like 300-500 million profit on MTX annually. This deal pays itself in 10 years. If they can get them to develop more than just Destiny, possibly sooner. I think that's how they're looking at it. Long term strategy. MS plonked 70 billion down for Activision, that's more than Xbox made in profits throughout its 20 year life.

@nessisonett Tribalism. My enemies are the people who bought the other plastic box, so I want them to suffer.

The worst thing about these acquisitions has, yes, been the sickening chatter from fanboys about which multinational corporation is going to gobble up which third-party developer next.

At least in this game, it's not being leveraged to hurt the competition, unlike the Zenimax and (presumably) Activision acquisitions.

NOW this is WAR!! Sony is getting prepared for his own shooter? let’s see

@GMoney2432
It is about exclusives for Playstation and its fans but not about making established third-party franchises exclusive to Playstation by buying whole publishers. Sony has never done that.

Sony really need a successful FPS game. How about they make free to play planetside? There are games like dreadnaught, eve online but no grounded MMORPG. A few factions competing for territory for days/weeks would be interesting. I am hoping TLOU2 multiplayer is like that.

@nessisonett Absolutely agree

@nomither6
I can understand that. The entry barrier for Destiny is VERY high. That is the biggest flaw with the franchise. Bungie removed the whole D2 campaign so new players have no idea what is going on.

BUBGIE!!?? REALLY??!! That's who you decide to buy??? (sigh) BUY...... JAPANESE.........STUDIOS!!!!!

they could have purchased a company like sega for roughly the same amount — 3.6b according to keighley (capcom and S-E are not far off from that price either). you would be getting 40 years worth of popular franchises and IP at your disposal, including jrpg juggernaut atlus studios. to purchase bungie for a single IP (an IP which has become tainted over the past few years) is unfounded and a waste of resources. did sony rush this deal just to please shareholders, knowing that it was greatly overvalued? l would guess so. what a grave disappointment.

They could had bought Square Enix but prefer Bungie?

Shots fired

I love Destiny 2 and i think Sony is smart shopping !

@OneWingedAngel yet. If Sony could throw that kind of money around I guarantee you they would. Instead they spent almost $4 billion on Bungie who have one established ip and will remain third party. It just doesn't make sense. I agree they do make good sci-fi shooters, so maybe Sony knows they're cooking something up and wanted to be a part of it.

@Medic_Alert
Those big companies know exactly what the other is doing. Don’t be naive No offended intended man.

@OneWingedAngel yeah , i just wanted to hop online and do some PvP matches ; come to find out , destiny is more of a PvE co-op experience looter-shooter , so then i was just trying to select the first mission and group up with people and it was just all so convoluted for me . i wish destiny was more like halos online in a sense where you just chose “campaign/missions” and “multiplayer” . i had no idea what i was doing the entire time i played and i was just in the same area with random players spawning in shooting at the same respawning enemies

Bungie have been a horrible Dev since releasing the first destiny game. Now you can blame Activision as much as you want but not much has changed since they broke free of those chains. They’ve exploited their players as much as possible and made some really questionable choices when it comes to Destiny DLC.

Great at making FPS games but a sh*tty anti consumer Dev.

I don't like these acquisitions at all.

In the end it's just a lot of money changing hands to ensure some games stay gated off from a lot of players.

A future where gamers get to play whatever they want on whatever system or service they chose would be much preferable.

Now this is a proper acquisition. Don't get me wrong, the previous smaller studios recently purchased by Sony are good studios, but they don't produce system/ecosystem sellers the way Bethesda and Activision will for Xbox. While Bungie is a fraction the size of Activision financially, this acquisition represents a quality over quantity approach that could serve as a direct response to the FPS monopoly that Xbox has been working towards recently. Love it or hate it for a whole host of reasons, from a pure quality of shooting mechanics standpoint, Destiny stands at the top of its genre. No one can currently make a shooter like Bungie can. This is an outstanding choice by Sony.

@thefourfoldroot Do you know that part of the team that made yakuza is now working for a chinese company?

https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2022-01-24-yakuza-creator-nagoshi-details-new-netease-studio

I know Sega still wons it, etc, but it could impact the sequels.

I don't see it as a response to MS buying other companies, but more like a way of both Sony and MS protecting themselves from other tech companies, including chinese ones, like NetEase and, specially, Tencent.

Remembering that Tencent is bigger than Sony, Microsoft and Nintendo in revenue (almost 30 Billions per year). They already own Riot Games (league of legends) and 40% of Epic Games.

@Nyne11Tyme Which surely means more profits for the publishers as they own the ips. and they were still money printing machines for Sony (spidey especially, that bundle sold so many ps4s). Bungie really only own 1 property from what I can tell. Don't get me wrong it obviously makes £, but can't see that much value in the company myself. All I'm saying is Insomniac are amazing devs and deserved much more than the paltry sum they were paid when deals like this go through. Bloody love insomniac. Favourite devs I think.

I'm confused. With the updates in the article... it's sounding like Bungie is remaining third party and multiplatform. What is Sony spending the $3.6 billion for?

Oh *****. The backstabbing of these corporations lol

@LightningLeader
Money? Sony Earns from selling Bungie. And can also choose to keep some things exclusive. Bungie continues to make multiplatform games and Sony earns from it.

Why $3.5 billion? Insomniac is the better developer and it was for 300m.

This is great if they plan on using the talent to possibly work on another FPS but as long as they keep games that are already Multiplatform, multiplatform. I don't like that MS took franchises that launched on Multiplatform and made them exclusive and I don't want Sony doing the same. These acquisitions sound crazy and it's gets us talking but it really worries me for the future of gaming as a whole. We don't need Tit for tat and gamers losing games they love to be made exclusive. If this keeps happening then the only people that will be able to enjoy the games they like will be to own both Consoles and thats not a cheap task for people with a money threshold. Just feel like this could end badly for gamers in the long run.

@nomither6 I get what you are saying, and Guerilla Games with Killzone made some awesome games, but they went on to create the amazing Horizon Zero Dawn.

What I am basically saying is that Bungie, like Rare, IMO , will become a has been developer. I do not see them elevating above Halo development, especially with how much Destiny was like Halo, as far as game play.

I see Bungie as a lost developer with no direction except to try to achieve off of their past accomplishments.

That being said, I hope they prove me wrong, but 3.6 Billion is still to damn much for a developer with one IP that Sony can actually own.

I wonder what this will mean for ps+ also ...... thats a hell of a purchase D2 is consistently one of the most played games per week on steam that means the player base is still there, happy chappy

@nookie_egg great devs for sure but that's why they were so much cheaper. Sony didn't get the rights to any IPs with Insomniac. They still pay a license fee for every game they make. I'm not going to put a worth on Destiny but at a million +active players on a live service this far in and the best shooting mechanics around...I think this makes bank for Sony. And maybe they get Bungie to reboot Killzone or Resistance exclusively while keeping Destiny Multiplat

@Medic_Alert
Yea that’s what they say. Nobody really knows how long those were planned to say the truth.
Ryan will never say Sony react to Ms either.
What I’m saying is it’s about survival for them and they will do anything to be aware is just common sense. 6 months is nothing
Look at how the consoles turned out to be. No real surprise

@Kriandis sheesh you’ve got some good points . only time will really tell with this one i feel . i definitely agree that the price for bungie was ridiculously high . this is all so weird .

Excellent buy for Sony it's getting them into live service games with Destiny being one of the biggest out ther being on all platforms, also very wise to keep Destiny on all platforms. With future games being exclusive or multiplatform, they know how to make FPS.

The Cold War of gaming has begun. Destiny 2 might be multi- platform, but what about Destiny 3?

So let me get this straight: Sony makes their biggest acquisition in the game industry ever…for a studio they’re not going to be counting among their first-party lineup…will continue to publish games for their competitor’s platform….and which they bought solely for live service development which they have CLEARLY been pivoting towards for a while, likely at the direct cost of single-player games?

Remind me, am I still expected to pretend that Jim Ryan is good for PlayStation? That he’s not actively running the brand into the ground? Worst news I’ve heard all week.

Awesome, I see people complaining on an arms race being bad for gaming. Just like in real life, yes the Cold War was scary, but amazing things came out of it, we went to the moon. I’m sick of half assed games that come out that are broke as all hell. I want amazing games and games that don’t take a decade to drop. Send us back to the moon, to both Sony and Xbox. “ Your either first or your last” -Ricky Bobby

I can't get excited for both sides making acquisitions. It's much better if studios like these stay independent. Same with everything under Activision/Blizzard.
At least they're wording it like everything Bungie does will stay multi platform, but I'm afraid that's just PR talk. We'll see

First, this is not a reaction to MS buying Activision. These multi-BILLION dollar deals take months, if not YEARS, to nail down. They didn't put this together in the two weeks since the Activision deal.

Second, Bungie has at least 3 more years of Destiny 2 left that we're aware of, and have said the games isn't ending after The Final Shape. They also have the new IP, Matter, they've been working on for a few years now that isn't likely to drop until 2026 at the earliest. Don't expect them to bang out a new Killzone or Resistance just because they're under Sony now, cause it ain't happening. Bungie has plenty on their plate as it is.

Whoa, both sony and microsoft didn't play around anymore. I hope now bungie can make good single player fps story rather than wasting their time on destiny 2.

Ah, here we go. Another industry acquisition. See what you're causing Microsoft? An acquisition war.

Whether Sony does it or Microsoft it's bad to split the industry between these big companies. And I say this objectively because I'm not a hypocrite since I was and am against Activision and Zenimax.

@Snake_V5 MS owns Halo. They bought the IP from Bungie.

@GeneJacket I think it’s more the assets that Bungie has that are now available to Sony is far more important than Destiny. But I think it’s a great pickup and Destiny is hands down the best feeling FPS ever made

Wow this is the best we could do? Oof...
Bungie has been making mediocre games for years and it's not like they own good IPs....wtf

Bungie hasn't had really good financial backing since they left MS this is a good deal for them and Sony. They can keep Destiny and other games multiplatform and have extra levels, characters and weapons that are Sony exclusives, MS can do the same with the IP's they own and everyone will benefit. Their respective platforms will benefit having exclusive content while making money keeping things multiplatform. The company's they've bought will have financial security to try new endeavours. This doesn't have to be a negative for gamers. Even if they have the occasional game in a franchise exclusive to their platform I still think it can be beneficial to the fans, it's better than a studio having to close it's doors for good because of the lack of funds.

All this money floating about and no one chucking konami a few billion to leverage some ip's?

Sony purchased Bungie for billions of dollars to keep Bungie independent as a third-party developer/publisher? Sure.......
Fast-forward a couple years and we shall see.

@AFCC they make great IP’s and have some of the best assets in game. Halo then Destiny, if that’s not an amazing 1-2 punch for fps in your mind then I don’t know what will change your mind. They make great, complete games at launch

This is such a trashy move but such a Jim Ryan move at the same time. I'm not excited about this. This doesn't benefit Playstation fans i duuno care what PR trash he's spouting. This is just them bringing in extra cash. Paid too much for this. This isn't "organic growth" neither. "Bungie will remain independent", Phil owns Jim at this point.

So, Sony bought Bungie, but will continue running it as independent and it will still be multiplat.

What exactly is Sony getting out of the purchase? For the company that's spent the past 15 years screaming "excluuuusiiiiives", this seems to be quite a pivot of buying studios and IP specifically to assist other studios and continue running multiplat games.

I'm not a big fan of the traditional "exclusives" these days, if Horizon can play on Xbox and Forza can play on PS, I think gamers win. And it's not inconsistent with what some in PS have felt all along (I've said it before, but some at PS didn't see Xbox as direct competition and planned from the start to publish games for Xbox, it was Kutaragi and his insolent ego that insisted they not do so. Sony was a PC publisher for a long time at that point. If Kutaragi hadn't power-played their strategy, we may have been long done with "exclusives" outside Nintendo over a decade ago.)

Between Bungie, the PC games, MLB..... The meme of "Sony should go third party" was a riff on the old Nintendoomed theme of "Nintendo should get out of hardware and go third party", but, is Sony basically announcing that's exactly what they're doing at this point?

Not that that would even be entirely a bad thing, but....it's kind of stunning that's where they seem to be taking this.

Now maybe Marty O'Donnell can leak Ragnarok on his Bittorrent.

@Martsmall massive difference that Bungie will remain multiplatform, unlike the MS acquired studios.

@nessisonett why do you think an arms race is a bad thing? Didn’t sega and Nintendo then also Sony competed in an arms race. Some of the greatest games came from that, Sonic, MGS, Chrono trigger, phantasy star, castlevanias and contras. These weren’t cross platform and guess who profited, the gamer. Now we get broke ass games and no one has a passion to be a winner. The Cold War gave us amazing tech that were leaps and bounds more advanced than before and paved the way for what we have now. Stop being dramatic, it’ll be better than ok. It’s going to be great

@-Sigma- cool story bro

@Quadalog ‘The Cold War was a good thing’ is quite the take.

@Quadalog It's very nice story bro

Straight up waste of money. It feels like some kind of desperation move on Sonys part. Why not try and buy some smaller indie companies like Warhorse and Unknown Worlds. Online shooters are a dime a dozen. Apex call of duty battlefield destiny titanfall and whatever the next hot one will be. So Bungie has had one successful game since halo…. How about a studio like cd project hello Sony.

@OneWingedAngel Fair enough about the 400 millions, it's not pocket change.
Still, my point stands : a difference of only 10% in the acquisition price between Star Wars and Bungie is not right... either Disney got the deal of the century, or Sony got ripped...

@nessisonett what's the difference between this and when Sony bought Insomniac?

It's not like Sony bought Square, Capcom, Ubisoft, etc

@Fenbops Finally! I was waiting for some to comment on this. Bungie is a terrible developer now. From the way they handled the move to f2p, Destiny legacy content, and what they did to Marty. They aren't even remotely worth it. Bungie has been coasting on their Halo legacy for far too long, and this comments section show it. No body here has any idea how Bungie has been doing business of late.

Sony studios be like: " who dis? "

Sony now owns the original Halo and Crash Bandicoot studios, while Microsoft holds the rights to both IPs.

Obviously two opposing strategies, as Sony values the studios' creative talent more, whereas Microsoft figures that they can come up with great games for both IPs just by using new talent.

@Quadalog This seems, to me, to be more of a move to secure Bungie for future stuff rather than anything we're going to see any time soon. With MS having CoD and potentially making that series exclusive some time in the future (which, again, this was not a direct response (but certainly a semi-fortunate coincidence)), Sony will need a big FPS to compete, and who better to lead that charge than Bungie? I'm not particularly a fan of what Destiny has become over the last couple of years, but Bungie is FPS royalty and there's no denying that Destiny feels phenomenal to play.

@SlySnake0407 To be fair this is a very different Bungie. I doubt more than a few of those old guys are still around.

@Rural-Bandit That’s the point. Sony is getting stuff that will make MS want to play nice and vice versa. Hence a Cold War, and not an all out exclusives war.

@Quadalog Destiny 2 was not "complete" it was a lackluster story that ultimately was boring. Is the foundation good? Yes. Do they make good FPS games? Yes. Are they worth 3.6billion? I think they could buy better things with that money...but I understand that PS needs a good FPS...

@Rural-Bandit Bungie itself is a weird move in terms of strategy. They're I think buying Bungie compares better to the King part of the ActiBliz merge. It's a revenue stream and a studio to lean on for live service expansion, so It's less about content and capacity than it is about buying expertise and another source of cash flow.

But yeah, I totally agree that anything that keeps the hands of the big "web 2.0" companies off gaming (yeah MS is big but they're traditional computing more than a web2.0 company) is a win for everyone already invested in gaming.

I loaded Amazon yesterday and saw a click to play for Yakuza:LaD on Luna. It's starting.

@GeneJacket I completely agree

I don't get it. Bungie?! All they have done since halo is milk destiny and piss off its initial fan base as far as they can before relenting on the shameless monetization slightly.

If Sony focuses on garbage models like destiny and ubisoft trash and live service doomed to fail garbage we are all losers for it.

The industry is trying to strong arm its playerbase into further long term nickel and dime and addiction based "game" design for no other reason than to commodity the player rather than deliver new innovative and engaging content.

@Rural-Bandit
As I've said before if it's to help the core industry as a whole then don't lock each other out of games that were previously accessable to each other. Especially if the consoles themselves don't make much money from sales.
If Microsoft bought Sega I wouldn't want to lose Yakuza. If Sony bought Capcom I wouldn't want Xbox to lose Resident Evil.

Owning more than one platform isn't always viable to everyone. They might not be able to financially do it. Or in my case, as I'm sure I've mentioned before, I can't handle having too many platforms to choose from mentally.

Sony and Microsoft would stand to make more money by tapping into each others customer base than alone.

Have GamePass on Xbox to benefit their primary customers and charge playStation gamers full price, win-win.
Same for Sony.

It's basically what Microsoft spent on Minecraft, and left Minecraft to be a mostly independent third party game. So I have similar expectations for Bungie.

@Martsmall Yeah. This buy isn't organic and Jim Ryan was saying he was all on the organic side like 6 months ago? He changes his mind quickly, huh? All about generations.

I don't like it, but Sony needed a shooter dev asap. Bungie is the best one that it's not under a publisher I believe.

@Rural-Bandit Animal Crossing: Day of the Groundhog will sell 100M copies and they just need to do a color swap and add a 4th teraforming height. MK9 can be MK8D with Funky added, and more fur on DK's body. It'll outsell GTA6 3:1. lol

But, then, even Sony doesn't have themeparks......

@Olmaz
I can agree with that. It does seem a rather expensive acquisition considering they only make Destiny. I don't know if Bungie is a publically traded company because that way the share price determines how much Sony has to pay. However, if it is a private limited company then Sony needs to negotiate with the owner and decide a price.

I just googled their games and absolutely nothing I like.
Their games are typical Xbox games, the 2nd reason why I didn't buy their console.. 2nd to controllers design.
I hope they make good game for people who enjoy this genre.. and I hope Sony & Microsoft stop the acquisition war cause it will be on the expense of their customers as always.

Sony buys Bungie... Only one thing to say to that: 🤦‍♂️

This is wild.

Coming from someone that does not really play FPS.
Much like paid online MS started it. Sony need to respond or be left behind.

Maybe Sony will use them to make a PSVR2 Shooter.

@Rural-Bandit ha, not even close!

Bungie will still be multi-platform, Bethesda most certainly aren't and in the long-term neither will Call of Duty.

MS have attempted to put Sony out of the gaming industry, Sony are merely responding.

Americans love a monopoly, it's in their DNA. Large parts of the rest of the world aren't so keen.

If I had 3500 million to spend it certainly wouldn’t be on Bungie.

Whoops missed 100 million, that’s 3600 million.

@OneWingedAngel Still not better than Doom Eternal or Tf2 tho.

I think this is a terrible waste of money. And it’s a lot of money.

@Rural-Bandit ah dude, don't over think it. I just don't want to have to buy an Xbox to play Street Fighter and Final Fantasy.

@Jeaz Well with this crowd im never sure if its sarcasm or if its for real. We did have a few users here that blamed people who bought Cyberpunk on the PS4. And said its their fault that they expected a quality product for their PS4 because its meant for nextgen. Or here calling a €90 special edition basketball game that had a "free update" to the PS5 version after going full rant for PS5 games going up a tenner in price. 🤪

The ‘twist’ everybody saw coming will be now all the Sony fanboys who suddenly reveal they secretly liked halo when Bungie was making it…as is the way

@Col_McCafferty You are incredibly stupid if you think Microsoft are trying to put Sony out of the gaming industry…I mean seriously, you need to pay closer attention.

MS want gamepass on PlayStation…they don’t want an end to PlayStation. The console war is in your head not theirs.

The gaming world is getting smaller and smaller and it's scary. There will be a day where Sony, Microsoft and Nintendo are the only major gaming companies, each one owning every big 3rd party game companies with the only ones left being the indie devs. This game of monopoly is truly scary and I'm not ready for that future.

I'm a bit torn on this one. This acquisition is a lot better than MS buying up whole publishers with a load of developers with them, and keeping the games mulitplatform is a good, very un-Sony like move. I also like that the messaging has been very clear.

Just not sure with there being more acquisitions down the line and what that will mean for the industry going forward. It was pretty inevitable in all honesty though. Not to say all acquisitions are bad, and I prefer to judge each one on their own. Guess we will have to wait and see on that one, but it feels like it's gonna a bit a dog eat dog world for video games.

It also one of the first times Sony has gone down the shortcut route, having not worked that closely with Bungie previously. I totally understand the reasons why and no doubt Sony and their first party studios will gain a lot from Bungie's experience with FPS games and GaaS.

@RevGaming
If you cant list objective merits and criteria regarding how the games you listed have deeper gunplay then it is just your opinion and you are entitled to yours. Peace.

I’ll cut and paste my response in the Activision deal (and to a lesser extent the ZeniMax deal) — Bungie doesn’t make anything I’m really interested in. For me, this doesn’t mean much. I mean, people love Destiny and Halo, I guess, but not me.

@Just2Milky how? they've been talking for longer then that. unless they have a time machine and went back to the past , this makes no sense at all.

@OneWingedAngel gunplay is not the only thing that it's needed to be consider the best of the FPS devs.

We know that objectively, TF2 and Doom Eternal got more awards and I find the gunplay of those two more smoother than whatever Destiny did. Those Destiny controls are stiff and slow to me. On paper you're saying things that they do, but that doesn't mean it translates well (fun factor).

Yea I see a lot of salt here.
I think the important news is Sony can and is making moves and not the sheep waiting to be butchered like the doom and gloom would have you believe.
I don’t like it and feel it’s a waste of money but they couldn’t let Ms take over everything. If it took 6 months to get there for one studio imagine how long Ms has been in talk with a big publisher like AB. Both bring about a major FPS is no coincidence. It’s also no coincidence the news were announced officially so close for both. Yea those moves are slow and we see the result only months later.

@Ashina By the time that happens... We'll be way too old for it matter.

Can we trade MS Bungie for Bethesda now? Kidding of course, but I have no interest in any games they've ever made, and I want Sony to create more RPGs.

@RevGaming
As I said, you are entitled to your opinion. I have played all three CoD, Titanfall 2, and Doom Eternal. For me, there is no comparison between Destiny and all three of those games. I have over 4,000 hours (FOUR THOUSAND; no, that is not a typo) in Destiny 1 and 2 combined so I know the game inside out. Each gun has a unique personality and you stick with your favorite guns. If you switch to a new gun archetype or gun class then you need to learn it all over again including your recoil pattern, zoom magnification, shot pacing, engagement distance, map positioning, complementary loadout etc.

In other shooters, you just pew pew until something is dead without giving much thought to gun mechanics. In CoD or Titanfall guns have no recoil or bloom (I hope you know what that is) whatsoever. They shoot like a laser and you do not need to control it and pace your shots like in Destiny. The weapon range or accuracy don't mean much either in those games. In Destiny, you need to shoot a gun within its effective range. You cannot use a hand cannon or sidearm class weapon to shoot someone beyond a few meters (hand cannons 25-30 m and sidearms around 15m). You need scout rifles, pulse rifles, or snipers for that. Each weapon has 3 to 4 different archetypes and there are hundreds of weapons. We have whole Youtube channels around gun mechanics, god rolls, aiming techniques, map sense, advanced player movement, etc. A non-Destiny player cannot even begin to comprehend the depth of Destiny gunplay.

@OneWingedAngel

"If you switch to a new gun archetype or gun class then you need to learn it all over again including your recoil pattern, zoom magnification, shot pacing, engagement distance, map positioning, complementary loadout etc"

so like going from sniper to shotgun?

"In other shooters, you just pew pew until something is dead without giving much thought to gun mechanics."

Certainly not on doom or titanfall 2.

Cause you're going at high speed vs destiny being a slow action shooter. It can't be too hard to aim on console.

"The weapon range or accuracy don't mean much either in those games." whaaaat?

Yeah. There videos on which gun to use on cod too.

I think you're overglorifying something that it's not that above other games and it's not the most important thing but I already mentioned that so lets agree to disagree.

Okay...we should stop with the buysout.

And sure...Bungie will be independent.

3yrs from now Bungie will ask to leave because of creative difference.

@RevGaming
No, no, no. That is not what archtype means. In Destiny there are archtypes within a single weapon class. For example, shotguns have four archetypes: aggressive frames, precision frames, lightweight frames, rapid-fire frames. Aggressive frames have a one-hit kill range of 8-10 meter max but have low handling stat which means they are slow to ready or stow. Precision frames have a 7-8.5 meter OHKO and have a naturally tighter pellet spread but low damage per pellet. Lightweight have around 7 meters but give you increased handling and mobility (strafe speed and jump) but you are less likely to one-shot an opponent. As a result, many combine it with a punch after firing a shot. Finally, rapid-fire shotguns fire full auto but often require two hit to kill. They are good for DPS during boss fights but not in PvP.

Similary, handcannons have three archtypes: aggressive frames, adaptive frames, and precision frames. Aggressive frames hit at 30-40 meters and fire at 120 rpm, great for team shooting and cleaning up weak opponents but high time to kill (TTK) value of 1.08 sec. Adaptive frames have 25-30 m range but fire faster and you can three tap a player within 0.75 seconds. The recoil pattern is a little tricky though. Finally, precision frames are the easiest to use with low recoil and high accuracy but shortest range. They require four shots to kill someone at 180 rpm and natural inair accuracy bonus. They are also less prone to bloom compared to the other two handcannon archtypes and you do not need to pace your shots as much. That is what archetype means. Do you see how much depth there is in just the above two weapon classes? Now imagine 20 more weapon classes like those each with 3-4 archtypes.

Nah bro, I am not over glorifying. You seriously need to play Destiny properly to understand why millions of gamers still play it on a daily basis. I have four thousand hours on it but other gamers have up to 12, 000 There is a reason people still play Destiny and the game has not died like so many other live service looter shooters. I am not saying those other games you mentioned are not good. They are amazing games but IMO Destiny has the best gunplay.

Looks a lot like a defensive move. A very strategically important one. I imagine this will be very beneficial for other Sony partners. The amount of know-how and technology they will now have access to from Bungie is huge.
But as a RPG games fan, I am a bit upset that the response from Sony regarding the FPS genre seems to be much greater.

A partnership between Guerrilla Games and Bungie to create a new Killzone game is exciting to imagine.

@Jeevz THey should've bought Square in 2000-2001 period, I think, before merging withe Enix

@QualityGeezer but Sony didn't have that much history with Bethesda

@Uncharted2007 To get the money of whatever Bungie is intended to do. Not every product is exclusive, but the money is exclusive!

@PenguinL wow! You mean Sony doesn't understand this?

Sorry but Bungie/Housemarque doesn't hold a candle to Activision/Blizzard and Bethesda/Zenimax.

The stories and overall flexibility that Bethesda and Activision have created over so many years is way more valuable. They own Spyro and Crash ffs haha.

Sony better up its game with someone else. Square enix would be really good.

Complete white PS5 incoming

Big move by Sony. $3.6 billion is a steep price (nearly half of what MS paid for Bethesda), especially considering the commitment to keep Bungie as a multi-platform studio. Whatever Sony has planned, they must be impressed with what Bungie's working on to take this gamble.

Now if Sony purchase Konami then they could bring in Kojima Productions to work on Silent Hill. 🤔 wishful thinking, I know.

A Forbes contributor article on the possibility of MS buying Bungie.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/paultassi/2022/01/18/just-asking-questions-could-microsoft-buy-destiny-2s-bungie/?sh=7928ea211007

Personally I think this sheds new light on Microsoft’s adhoc decision to buy Activision Blizzard. If this acquisition of Bungie was already several month in the making I am sure because of Xbox close relationship with Bungie that they were aware of it and in a panic move bought Activision to counter Sony’s bid on Bungie. Just saying.

@Jeevz Soon

$3.6 billion on a company with a hardly-stellar IP list (well, one but we can't talk about Halo here) and remaining multi-platform?

Not sure what the revenue stream (micro transactions?) is from Destiny but I can't help but think that this is a dud move from New Sony.

@sanderson72 several hundred million every year up to half a billion. And around 20 million new players since they shut down the deal with Activision.

@Avenir Sony is not Microsoft they have their own plans and buy what fits them. They buy Bungie because of their Know-how. Playstation is about their own creativity and they buy what they need to make it happen. I really hope they don’t turn out to be like Microsoft. This wasn’t a reaction to Microsoft buying Activision.

That’s the difference between PlayStation and Xbox. Sony has their own plans of an service based game and they look around on how to make it happen and if necessary they buy a company to add missing Know-how to achieve their goal. Xbox doesn’t have their own ideas or the creativity to develop their own games so they buy franchises and then sell them as “their” own. Without those purchases they would be finished a long time ago.

@LordOfTurnips This comment deserves way more credit than it has received so far. 😂😂😂

@Rural-Bandit wow, bringing up the Tea Party!

Surprised you haven't mentioned how Microsoft saved Europe from the Nazis.

🤣🤣🤣

It's just gaming, buy what you want and play what you want, however you want.

It still amazes me when people on here say things like "This Bungie purchase fits in perfectly with Sony's strategy of only buying creative teams that they can work closely with and help to grow." 🤢

This is overpriced. Especially with headcount like that. Bungie in 2014 and Bungie now are two very different studios. It is impossible to ignore severe game quality degradation that went before our eyes. Bungie of old invented game mechanics, genres, and built worlds. Bungie of today is a clueless upper management, trying to shove what was created before them into a free to play grindest, while proudly wearing old developer badge.

For me it is the worst studio purchase by Sony.

@BadPlayerOne They went free to play. You can see on Steam charts how their PC popularity declined from the initial peak.

@viktorcode 2021 was their best year yet. Anyways Sony didn’t buy them for their franchises. They bought them to expand their knowledge on service based games since Sony is working on their own service based game.

@lolwhatno I just really don't see what people are expecting from this. The wording of it makes it sound like they'll just be continuing to develop existing IP for both platforms. Which means more Destiny. Is it the only game they've developed since 2014? I don't see what else they're bringing to the table for 3.6 billion dollars.

Hardly gold.

@BadPlayerOne Their best year as independent, which is worse than what they had under Activision. I'm basing that solely on player number, which can be inferred from Steam charts. Also, from Activision quarterly reports it can be seen that the financial peak was reached at the start of Destiny 2 sales. Year after that Activision became "disappointed" in the results and decided to dump them. I cannot frame this story as any kind of success.

@viktorcode they added 20 million players since they left Activision. Again you are trying to make a point about Destiny 2. They are not interested in Destiny 2. They are interested in Know-how for their own upcoming service based franchise. That is why they won’t interfere in Bungies game development.

@lolwhatno I'd love to see them make a new Killzone or Resistance. It's just the wording of this announcement has me worried that it'll just be Destiny 2.5+ Definitive Edition on all platforms with Sony raking in the micro-transaction millions.

I loved every one of their Halo games (Reach being my personal favourite) but never found myself ever wanting to play Destiny so I'm hoping for something new.

I'm fairly sure that gold smells quite like glass.

@Col_McCafferty
Didn’t you know that Spencer is actually captain America?
Haha

@lolwhatno
The thing is people compare apple vs orange.
AB is a huge publisher whereas Bungie is just a studio.
So yea I would not call this a typical arms race haha

@lolwhatno
Oh yes I agree it’s related but I’m just saying it’s not the same thing.
Always cool to see you around.
Yea it’s funny we are all experts now haha

Killzone 4, anyone?

@Rural-Bandit
Hi man
I think we need to be honest here. A lot of misinformation and false narrative get people going on for nothing but embarrassing themselves and get traffic going for sites.
It’s false to divide gamers into clans and supposedly one clan said the others have no game or said blah blah.
No, that’s generalising and putting words into peoples mouths. Early PS4 has no games was also a meme that doesn’t mean every Xbox gamer said that. It’s a ridiculous way to see it.

People should be able to share their genuine thoughts without being clowned as ‘fanboi ‘ or belittled in any way. Most of the time it’s because there is misunderstanding which is very easy because of a tone could completely change the (meaning) texts of the comments.

@Rural-Bandit
I mean Im sorry I hope you don’t take it the wrong way but my genuine opinion of Phil Spencer might get you offended haha.
Ok I won’t say if you don’t want to hear it but there’s nothing wrong in being genuine. A lot of people here keep throwing eggs at JR. haha
I think Phil. .,, ok I won’t say it.
** dont say it, don’t say it…**
😅😅

@Rural-Bandit
Well it’s a fact Xbox one actually has a great launch and good first half but then completely dropped. 🤷🏼‍♂️

I was reading what Spencer said just a few days before AB got bought.

‘I think in terms of interactions with other companies, the things that we choose to do with our brand and our platform, in coordination or not with other companies, is the avenue that we have to have an impact. I would say in terms of individuals that are in leadership positions at other companies, it’s not obviously our position to judge who the C.E.O.s are. Like, C.E.O.s are chosen by shareholders and boards.’

I mean it’s not even an opinion. People a week later were praising him for ‘getting rid’ of that guy. I mean come on it’s obvious he wasn’t being honest at the least.

@Rural-Bandit
Actually there was no lie. I’d bet you to prove it. It was a straw man argument made up by the press in butchering his quotes and ignoring important part.

Destiny 3 is going to have 47 hours of cutscenes lol