Sony tried, and failed, to close the PlayStation 3 and PS Vita storefronts last year – after an enormous social media backlash convinced the company to change its mind. PlayStation boss Jim Ryan took to the PS Blog with his tail between his legs, stating that his firm “made the wrong decision here” and is “glad to keep this piece of our history alive for gamers to enjoy”.
While there was never any commitment from the company regarding how long it’d keep the consoles’ PS Stores operational, Nintendo has since announced that it’ll be taking both the Nintendo Wii U and 3DS storefronts offline in March next year. That period of notice is important, because Sony initially offered about four months for fans to buy the games they wanted.
Consequently, it seems highly unlikely there’ll be anywhere near the same backlash for Nintendo’s announcement, meaning that the closure will almost certainly go ahead as planned. And that raises the question: is Sony now in a better position to justify the closure of its own storefronts? It’s obvious, at least to us, that the platform holder would much rather cease to maintain these legacy systems.
Ultimately, though, Ryan made the above commitment to PS3 and PS Vita less than a year ago, so we can’t imagine it’ll rescind it anytime soon. But it’s important to remember that Sony never made a promise to preserve these platforms indefinitely, so they will go offline at some point – perhaps the Japanese giant will learn from Nintendo here, and give everyone a bit more notice when it does eventually decide to pull the plug.
[source nintendolife.com]
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Well... they're both dead systems. PSV was only viable for about 2-3 years before it was shuttered into being only jrpg and phone game trash. I'm more curious on when all PS3 servers will eventually shut down... not that it will affect me.
That was the biggest issue I had with when Playstation tried to close it down. A couple months is nowhere near enough time to allow people to make any final purchases. I give Nintendo a lot of grief over a lot of their business practices but I applaud them for at least giving a full year heads-up.
Don't get me wrong, if they could stay open forever I'd of course prefer that or better yet figure out a way to play these legacy titles on modern platforms in a not annoying way. (Streaming only, subscription only, etcetera) But bottom line if your shutting something down at least give people plenty of time to get their ducks in a row.
as long as they give people plenty of notice like at least 6 months and after the store closure allow you to redownload games youve already bought and there respective patches then i shouldnt be a problem
If they can relaunch some sort of emulation with PS Plus to allow for purchases of these old games or streaming then, then shut ‘em down!
alot of the multipayer servers are dead or infested with hackers
If Sony make the titles available via streaming through sparticus (albeit recognising that Vita has added input complications (front and rear touchpad)), then i think they will try again. Its just a matter of time
I got everything I wanted out of them and just like on Wii U and 3DS eshops there isn't anything on the Vita and PS3 Store that interests me. I have everything downloaded so I'm all set for the inevitable closure.
I'm fine with it. They supported the PS3 a long time and I got lots of use and fun out of it. Old purchases are still downloadable.
There isn't really much use for the Vita store anyway. No discounts, no PS+ games to be given to members, no new titles added (that 1 indie game per year won't stir the waters anyway).
The only problem I see here are for example parents with less disposable income getting a PS3 as a toy for their kids. Hopefully enough awareness goes out to make sure this group does not buy some shiny looking PS3 in a second hand store. Unless it comes with games or something.
They should keep it up as long as possible because preservation matters. If they made the old systems backwards compatible on PS5, people would be more accepting of it. Same goes for Nintendo. People want to be able to play the games for generations to come, when they feel like it and replacing the ability to buy the games with a subscription that they can deny access to whenever they feel like it isn’t a solution.
I have all the PS3 playable games I want right now. If it's shut down will we be able to re-download games and updates though? We are waiting to see what Sony does with Spartacus which may address this.
Will Sony try to close off the legacy stores again? Very likely. A look around twitter seems to be suggesting some pretty peeved Ninty owners! 🤔
Albeit you have the acolytes that complain about the limited Nintendo Switch Online legacy game collections & digital limited time game releases & yet still reward Ninty with wads of cash anyway!🙄
I'm all for (& wish),for better legacy game library support on playstation,but in light of the reporting on the PS backlash last year,I wonder if the games media will be more forgiving in their reporting on golden child Nintendo?
I got everything I'm ever going to buy for my VITA from the PSN store, so don't mind if it closes down as long as I can redownload my titles again if I want to in the future (which will be available, and Nintendo mentions it here too that previous bought titles will not disappear).
@CynicalGamer There are still PS3 discs around you know
Hashtag Prayers...
Aren't these two different things? At least going off the article on Nintendo Life and the reactions of Japanese gamers, they're losing all the games they bought. With Sony, wasn't it just that you couldn't buy any more games but all purchases could still be downloaded?
@Matroska this is false. you are still able to redownload any digital purchases you made on wiiu/3ds Eshop store.
Can you even buy things on the PS Store for Vita anymore. Every time I've tried I just get an error code. Googled it and it seemed to be widespread.
Why would Sony do something this dumb just because nintendo is?
The Wii U isn’t even that old. And I still see people regularly use a 3DS. That’s not good on their part TBH. This is terrible for gaming history though.
@Apfelschteiner The store allows people to get any game. Physical is less reliable for older consoles. I actually gave some of my PS3 games to someone who bought a PS3 for her grandchild. Fortunately I can give them pretty much any decent PS3 game from my PS3 cabinet since I don't play much of those.
It won’t surprise me if that happens.
Nintendo could just remaster every WiiU and 3DS title for the Switch (some might say that's what they've already done!) but no Vita titles had ports to PS4 (Gravity Rush?) and only a few PS3 titles got remasters due to lack of b/c.
Stores aren't going to stay open for ever but it does make you wonder how much maintenance it'd take to keep the old stores open now that you can't buy anything from it directly any more.
Sure. Nintendo did do it so let’s spin some negativity on PlayStation about it. Makes sense. 😜
Nintendo good guys.
‘it seems highly unlikely there’ll be anywhere near the same backlash for Nintendo’s announcement,…’
So let it be written, so let it be done!
@ArcadeHeroes Okay. I'm just going off the article I mentioned which has quotes like:
“Nintendo is unhinged.”
“Well, even though you buy downloads, it’s just a rental.”
“Okay, then make it possible to use the Virtual Console on the Switch"
“Inevitably, this day has come, hasn’t it?”
“I’m able to trust Sony more than Nintendo."
“Ridiculous. This makes me only want to buy from Steam.”
“At the end, you won’t be able to play anymore? That’s terrifying.”
Not that it ultimately matters since the 3DS and Wii U have been easily hackable for years so you can still play whatever you want even after Nintendo have decided to effectively ban you from paying for these games.
I remember hearing nothing but backlash at Sony when they tried shutting their stores yet Nintendo despite doing the same thing and for systems that have been out less years than PS3 or PSP seems to have barely gotten any grief about it which bugs me. Sony aren't perfect as we all know but Nintendo seems to get away with plenty where as the moment Sony does something everyone is all over it. As for the PS3/Vita stores being closed soon, it is possible. I wouldn't put it past Sony to change their mind in a year or two but surely everyone who has one at this point has just about everything they need. And anyone buying a Vita in 2022 is most likely going to hack it. If they are going to do it though at least give it more notice to consumers and the developers still releasing Vita games. Four months was not a lot and not telling developers wasn't a good move as they either had to rush titles out or cancel them. I thought that was the more scummy part about it than them shutting the stores because aside from the Vita the other stores were well over 15 years old and the console was discontinued several years ago. And using the PS3 Store is a nightmare anyway.
The problem is not the closure, but at how they're being handled. If sony announce they're going to close the store 1 year later and as a farewell there will be closure discount for ps3 and vita games I'm sure gamer will be allright with it.
Oh and don't forget the disrespect at indie studios either, sony sold them vita devkit knowing it will be useless because they're going to close the vita store soon.
lets be honest if u have a switch , it makes the wii u useless , i actually enjoyed my wii u , but i can't remember the last time i played it was. and honestly the wii u sold so poorly i'm sure there are weeks or months in between purchases. i might jump on and pick up a few classic games though , but i'm surprised it lasted this long. at least the ps3 made it this far, eventually all things come to an end. not to mention with the inpending rumors of psnow and ps+ being combined , you'll be able to play most of the ps3 games through psnow.
I assume official closures will happen once the PS5 has backwards compatibility thanks to Spartacus.
I do hope the backwards compatibility isn't completely tied to the Spartacus service and you can buy old games individually.
These old stores are major security risks so they cannot stay up indefinitely, but video game companies need to try to preserve old games.
@Korgon It's a year in theory, but after May, you won't be able to add funds to your Wii U or 3DS accounts, only spend what's already on there. So in reality, Nintendo are only giving you 3 months notice.
Nintendo is judged by a completely different set of standards in terms of business practices and hardware quality so I don’t see how this will affect Sony’s plans at all.
Looks in cupboard
Thank goodness for physical media.
Since Sony removed the ability to make payments through Vita and PS3, it should be easier for them to keep the stores open for longer/indefinitely as they shouldn't have to deal with keeping the store updated to process payments in the correct legal way across the world. There may be other maintenance needed, but i imagine anything else wouldn't come with as strict a timeline as maintaining legal compliance.
Right... Sony did it and it was not about the "time given" but because they were not respecting their gaming legacy/history or could not be trusted... blah, blah, blah.
But Nintendo does it and it is fine because they are giving "more time" - The hypocrisy is just mind-bending.
That said - With SteamDeck right around the corner, not wasting time playing old VITA or 3DS games regardless.
Care more about new Xenoblade 3 and God of War than if Sony/Nintendo closing down old games.
Long as they don't remove the ability to sync trophies for my unfinished games then I'll be okay.
@RainbowGazelle
Really? That's unfortunate. Well scratch the credit I gave Nintendo. That is definitely annoying.
Obviously they will be shut down at some point, which is why I will always despise the push for all digital and think people who just accept it as inevitable are stupid. Whine and cry when they lose access to a game or two they like but have no problem saying dumb stuff such as 'well, physical media isn't needed anyway.' Can't have it both ways.
Sony, and Jim seems really obsessed with just copying Nintendo, so I do worry this will spur them to do the same. On the other hand, Nintendo is just a totally different market. PS may be the default console for casuals, and its market may not be the core gamer, but Nintendo's VERY casual (pseudo-mobile) base just has different expectations, and is fine with disposable, throw-away entertainment.
I'm not sure anyone has really pinned down what Nintendo's market really is. None of us can quite pin it down, and neither can the analysts that always get them wrong. Only they seem to know what their magic market is, but they seem to know it well.
MS is selling a PLATFORM, not a game or a console, and their customers EXPECT a platform mindset, similar to PC. It's symbiotic and they manage the relationship more than the SKU.
Sony still sits somewhere between the two.
Man, that headline was terribly written. It is a tongue twister and a head scratcher all in one.
The major difference here is: Nintendo doesn't care about public opinion. Sony does. Just look at Nintendo-Life running 3 different articles the day-of and hundreds of responses. This is not Iwata's Nintendo anymore. They legitimately don't care what we think.
@sanderson72 I really would like a Soul Sacrifice game that game was great fun.
@sanderson72 they've only put one 3ds game and that was Miitopia. Most big Wii U games have been ported, but at this point I think they're done with that. For the first time in the Switch's lifecycle they haven't announced a Wii U port in over a year.
@RainbowGazelle You can still add funds using an eshop card until August. So realistically, it's more like a 5 month heads up which still isn't that great but whatever.
A lot of people here talking about VITA yet never supported or owned one even once.
Best handheld on the market back then, still the best now.
I think ps3 and vita are a little different to nintendo's, because a lot more people bought stuff online for them, especially the vita. Vita was basically just an digital machine for many, due to the prices of vita carts.
Nintendo have been able to get away with closures without much of a scene so far because hardly anyone bought online for them anyway.
They are probably going to be surprised by the outcry if they try pulling the same thing for the switch in the future.
@patronmacabre im gonna nip this one in the bud , its not like you'll be able to play native ps3 games or use ur ps3 games on the ps5. its bringing a streaming service , psnow , and combining it with ps+ to give one service. it won't let you access digital games you already purchased. if that is what you are expecting you are completely letting your self get disappointed.
@Balosi Way too many assumptions you're making there about digital purchasing trends on 3DS/Wii U, without citing any evidence.
@EVIL-C well, when companies are so secretive about digital sales assumptions have to be made sometimes.
My assumption of the wii u and 3ds, based on reading on forums, my own and friends personal habits, youtube and news articles, nintendos cumbersome online stores and the time that they were around in is that the vast majority of people stuck to physical.
but u can’t play ps3 games on the ps5 , if they discontinue the ps3 , there would be no way to digitally purchase ps3 titles that can’t be found physically . ps now streaming ain’t cutting it
Well if they do, both my vita and PS3 will become emulation platforms. Digital stores shouldn't be shut down at all unless no one is using them. I've already homebrewed my 3ds, working on my wiiu next.
@HammerKirby3 @Korgon My apologies, I misunderstood part of this announcement. May is simply when they're removing credit card support from the eShops on the consoles in NA (as they already did in EU and JP). You can still buy on the website if your Nintendo Account is linked to your NNID on 3DS and Wii U (again, the same as what we've been doing in Europe for the last few years). So, you're right; we do have until March next year!
@RainbowGazelle
Oh... well no worries then I give Nintendo back some of the credit I took away!😅
This article is sickening. Things are only possibly fine now that Nintendo does it? And just because they gave it a certain amount of time difference, it's praised?
First and foremost, NINTENDO ALREADY DID THIS BEFORE. It was the first Wii Shop which means Microsoft and Sony both have them beat out on the digital storefront in longevity.
Newsflash: Nintendo rarely gets any backlash that sticks for ANYTHING they do. The reason this comparison makes me sick to my stomach is because people are taking for GRANTED how nice it is to have a company CHANGE something when people complain. You don't GET that with Nintendo. Insulting the CEO of Playstation just because of his views does NOT change the fact that change STILL happened. I rather a guy own up to fact that they were wrong than be ignored forever! Even Microsoft has been pretty flexible to change when people complain. It hurts that folks are trying to turn that all on it's head out of fear, let alone just the idea that everyone will attack these guys WAY worse than Nintendo over just about anything.
Do folks even fathom how much content was ON PSN? Over 15 years of digital content... PS1/2 classic, 3, 4, V, P, Digital only games(including Minis too), movies, individual episodes, DLC, demos, trials, trailers, applications, and I'm sure I'm still missing SOMETHING. It's so much, I can barely keep track of what "I" own! Meanwhile, how much are you losing on Nintendo's end? How many times does it MAKE that you've lost some of that stuff on their end at that? I'm not giving Sony the OK to get rid of it, I'm just making sure you all realize how much there is manage here and it's still there. Even if it was JUST the games, its a lot! And I ALSO realize that folks want Sony to make it easier to access. I hear you.
Thanks for reminding me that I need to start buying any old PS3/Vita games left stuck digitally on the store.
This is why I have never bought digital.
I havent touched my PS3 over 2 years now and well i got every game i need on Vita but still i think Sony should be better than Nintendo on online support and services and keep the stores open for a longer time. There are still great games in PS3 but if there are not discounts anymore it doesnt worth to pay as much
If they would merge the stores and make Vita and PS3 purchases compatible with the PS4/PS5 consoles than I say fine. It's not unheard of, it's not impossible. Xbox has shown us this.
@Nightsever great post. I strongly agree with pretty much everything you mentioned.
I have never trusted Nintendo with digital purchases, said it before and got people angry at me telling me Nintendo would supposedly never repeat the Wii store closure. I was proven right, and didn’t have to wait that long.
I also stopped trusting Sony when they announced the PS3/Vita closure. The current hold is a pause, I’m sure it will eventually go away.
As far as I care, both, PS and Nintendo, if the game can’t be bought physically it just can’t be bought, just rented.
On the opposite side, so far I trust Xbox with digital but I don’t trust them with physical. I expect anything physical from Xbox to require internet to even install, but they up there with Steam on closing down their store fronts.
If Sony decided it's time to shut the stores down and use Nintendo as the perfect opportunity to do so, I just hope that they will allow us to re-download our games for many years to come. Should this also come to an end, then adding the games to Spartacus or PS Now would be a great way to save them.
Make a Lite service, one that can run the licenses we have purchased so they aren't locked behind a paywall. And the paying service to get access to all or most games. Before removing the feature that allows us to re-download the games, they should use that time to try get as many 3rd party developers/publishers to agree to allow their games onto the service and remain there for a long long time, even if they were to go out of business.
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