
Sony and Microsoft’s very public war of words continues, with paperwork published by the UK government today outlining PlayStation’s stance against Xbox’s unprecedented near-$70 billion acquisition of Activision Blizzard. In the document, the Japanese giant’s legal team responds to a point from its Redmond rival, which suggested Nintendo has been able to compete fine without access to the all-important Call of Duty franchise.
Nintendo Switch has, of course, become a powerhouse platform – but it competes less directly with PlayStation and Xbox, offering a portable, more family-friendly alternative. Sony’s legal team argues this exposes Microsoft’s “true strategy”. It claims: “Microsoft wants PlayStation to become like Nintendo, so that it would be a less close and less effective competitor to Xbox. Post-transaction, Xbox would become the one-stop shop for all the best-selling shooter franchises on console (Call of Duty, Halo, Gears of War, DOOM, Overwatch), […] and it would then be free from serious competitive pressure.”
It’s a hard point to argue with, really. While some may propose that PlayStation has first-person shooter franchises of its own, like Killzone, it’s been almost ten years since the last instalment in that series – and Sony also argues that such is the scale of Call of Duty, it’s effectively impossible to create a rival brand at this point. We’re not sure whether Microsoft truly “wants PlayStation to become like Nintendo”, but we can see the point; as things stand there’s overlap between Xbox Series X|S and PS5 where both consoles compete for similar consumers. Taking away Call of Duty would tip the scales significantly in Microsoft’s favour for a lot of those players.
[source assets.publishing.service.gov.uk]
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At this point, why don’t we just have one repeating article with the headline: “Sony and Microsoft say stupid stuff to one another in Activision fight”?
The only reasons I have a Switch is because it's the go-to for the kid's games. The kid's know everything we own on it is appropriate for them to play. The other is specifically, Zelda.
Sony's correct that Nintendo isn't really a direct competitor. I think Nintendo has even said as much.
At least it’s not Sega.
Remember when the console war was held by the fanboys of the respective consoles and not the CEOs? Good old times
I feel like Nintendo just took their own path and don’t really need to be dragged into this ugly affair.
@awp69 seconding this
I agree with this statement. Nintendo don’t compete directly with Sony or MS (outside of Japan anyway). Nintendo do their own thing and I personally have no interest in it, which is fine.
Gears of War is a shooter but Uncharted and The Last of Us are not?
Sony does have a glaring hole in the first person genre but they certainly have shooters.
Losing one franchise (which is a hypothetical assumption because xbox seems dead set on keeping it multiplat) doesn't mean that Sony is a kids platform. Sony themselves make plenty of M rated games. What a bizarre take.
Losing the game played by 13 year olds will drive away all the adults lol.
Being honest it is frightening what Microsoft and their money could do if they wished and left to do what they want.
They could almost buy the gaming industry and control most of it. Just like the PC world.
Sony: “Microsoft wants us to be Nintendo”
Gamers: “Nintendo what do you think of all this”
Nintendo: munches on popcorn
It's a shame Sony don't own a studio famous for making great FPS games like Bungie 🤔
Let's be honest, Sony own Destiny and have Killzone should they want and they've already proven they can mix it with Assassin's Creed with new IP like Horizon and Ghost of Tsushima. Plus in the FPS space we have very successful newcomers in Valorant and Apex and a bit older in Overwatch. Sony are pretending new games and franchises can't come around when it's happening all of the time
@awp69 Agree! Could be fun
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Nintendo is successful with their approach, because they aim exclusively at their own individual market. Which is entirely separate from PlayStation and Xbox. I don't think Sony has the luxury of doing the same. They can't make their games like Nintendo, and mass sell for kids. Games like GOW/Horizon would simply never work in the Nintendo sphere.
I still don’t see why Call of Duty is such a big draw. Like the world begins and ends with it. It’s the McDonald’s of gaming. Why do people keep eating it? 😜
@carlos82 it's a shame Microsoft don't own a publisher famous for making great fps like doom & Wolfenstein
While it galls me to see that any company can just buy up the market and squash the competition with unlimited money rather than with innovation and creativity, all of this "PlayStation losing CoD" news makes me excited to see what Sony has cooking in the online space.
They have to know that this deal will go through and are just angling for the best possible outcome from their perspective.
Get a 10 - 15 year guarantee for CoD on PlayStation, then get to work on something innovative and special for next gen that nobody else is doing.
I know - Easier said than done.
sony ignores their IPs so they can’t be anyway . and they’re only saying that because Xbox outclasses them in everything but exclusive games .
sony COULD be like nintendo if dim ryan would get demoted . he’s been ruining playstation since 2019
@Jireland92 While sitting on a huge pile of cash.
I don’t understand why Microsoft don’t just manage their studios, put some hard work in management wise and release some of their own big hitting AAA games.
Then start advertising Xbox actually exists and game pass to general public.
It’s like they not even trying or bothered.
@Shepherd_Tallon With Jim Ryan in charge i don't know if they could pull it off, the guy was super anti multiplayer anti FPS during the PS4 era even sunsetting Sony's own shooters to keep pushing 3rd person action adventure games.
@Would_you_kindly the story is about Sony not being able to create a rival FPS to those that Microsoft own and maybe will own, so uour reply doesn't really make much sense
@carlos82
I don’t think it’s possible for anyone to compete with COD, that’s why MS bought them for such a huge amount (along with lots of other franchises that seem to get forgotten).
@carlos82 I'm just saying Microsoft have just bought that publisher with those IPs & could create more but are dead set on buying another huge publisher with very well established IPs at what point will Microsoft decide they have enough studios & IPs to start making their own games lol
I know I’m daft for stock counting, but in the two years since release of series S and X I have never seen so much stock of these console sitting there unsold in the UK even with the recent Series S price drop. It’s a dam disgrace by Microsoft for Xbox.
Also in the USA if they have shortages as so many say on here, then it is a logistical disaster by Microsoft of stock allocation.
Far too many in the UK and not enough in the USA.
Companies have sacked managers etc for far less, they must have so much money or be so mismanaged or just don’t care.
Unbelievable from a management point and business point of few.
I don't see how Sony can play the poor underdog victim here. Especially after the widespread critical acclaim of GoW and it 5.1mil sales in 2 weeks.
I bet Horizon didn't do too badly for them either.
@Uncharted2007 while it’s true Nintendo aren’t a direct competitor, it also has to be said that they make truck loads of cash. So to say it’s all bad in not competing directly wouldn’t be a fair statement, it’s true that it would open the doors for Xbox and PC to be the mainstream place for a certain kind of experience. But i just don’t see MS pulling call of Duty away and i also don’t see Sony’s millions of fan’s quickly leaving the ecosystem. There is no easy answer if this deal is good or even fair but for sure i can say PlayStation is here and strong for a very long time to come. They are to talented and big of a brand to go downhill quickly and i say that as someone that uses my Series X as much if not more than my PS5.
@Jireland92 More like Nintendo looks up at them both and smiles and then puts their head back down and continues to count their cash hahahaha
@Would_you_kindly oh that I fully agree with, they even bought Halo once upon a time and they absolutely should be doing a much better job today. It seems the previous regime before Phil set them so far back in that regard that they've been chasing their tails ever since
It is true Nintendo is for maybe for different sort of customers. Reality is (for example) I have Switch and played only 2 nintendo games yet, the rest is some indies or AA games that I have also on PS, but have no time play on tv... If you became father, lots changes and Switch is much more accessible than PS5 (also because Remote Play is so bad, even 3 smartphones were not able to pair DualShock4 and I just gave up fighting this idiocy).
So the legal team think Nintendo not that effective!?! Sony should go make their big shooter instead of complaining!
@thefourfoldroot1 perhaps not directly but there are other huge FPS games out there such as Overwatch, Apex Legends and Valorant seems to be growing. With Sony's ever growing reputation of first party games I'm pretty sure they could make a hugely successful FPS game
Sony should become like Nintendo and be self-sustainable...
Sony keeps acting like they have no IP power and their player base only exists to play CoD. Wasn't Ragnarok massively successful? Didn't Uncharted become one of the most profitable movie adaptations in gaming history? Isn't Sony sitting on a pile of IPs that could, hypothetically, compare to Nintendo's with some nurturing?
I can't think of any greater signs of Sony's complacency than their response to this merger. It's not Microsoft that's afraid of competition. It's clearly Sony, because any status quo shake up threatens their majority market share.
@carlos82
Could? Sure. But measuring that possibility against the certain loss of billions in Microtransaction fees alone…
@thefourfoldroot1
My thoughts exactly!!
I think what is often forgotten is that COD isn't just a popular game but also a cash cow when it comes to seasons, skins, and all the other microtransactions that go through the PS store. I also can imagine that Sony would lose out on BAJILLIONS that you mentioned
I also imagine that even if they get to have COD on their platform Microsoft is not going to let them keep as much of the microtransaction pie as they are accustomed to now.
So it's not so much keeping COD on the Playstation but keeping Microsoft from cutting into that business. That's why even when Microsoft says they are keeping the game multiplatform there is still a problem.
Maybe they should have not abandon their own IP's like Resistance, Killzone and SOCOM...??
@Bamila
Why spend the money on those when everyone is just going to engage with COD anyway and the game you put 3 to 5 years into dies as soon as it's released?
@grapetrap
Well, MS couldn’t stop the 30% fee, nor would it be in their interests to set that precedent, but they can certainly provide it “free” on Gamepass and not let it on Extra, meaning many more customers going through Xbox Live instead and completely bypassing Sony.
More TRASH by GREEDY Xbox in their quest to gain a monopoly over the video game industry! They won't be happy til 99.99% of players own an Xbox and don't care if Sony and Nintendo go bankrupt in the process! They should be ashamed and embarassed!
@thefourfoldroot1 epic has tried to do it with fortnite on IPhones I can see Microsoft doing the same thing with cod
@Would_you_kindly
Wouldn’t be in their interest. Not when it would open them up to the same treatment from EA, Take2, etc.
@thefourfoldroot1 it's not really that much different from them saying the games will come to platforms where gamepass exists lol
Havo no sympathy for Sony on this one. They keep crying about this, while they also keep throwing money at publishers to keep third party games like Silent Hill or Final Fantasy exclusive. You can't have your cake and eat it.
I just only play kids games.
That's the only thing I care for PS4 & PS5.
I don't even care and never like rated M AAA games.
Will sony games get the safe for work mode like Bayonetta 3? Kratos will have a shirt next time.
It's somewhat saddening how Sony is reacting. They should just continue to play their strengths, the same way Nintendo has done, while also pursuing innovation.
I haven't even played my Switch since I finished the latest Kirby. Still waiting for a good game that's not a port or the worst version of a multiplatform game. Tears of the Kingdom and Pikmin 4 are far away and I haven't seen anything they have that I'd want to play. Add that the Switch is so old that it's being emulated already so why waste money?
All Microsoft have done this generation is take big hitting IPs away from people, and added nothing to the industry. What a waste of money. Just think what all these billions could have created if they worked on building some new talented teams to makes their own exclusives.
A large part of this is Sony's fault too. Paying for timed exclusive deals for multiplatform games was a d*** move, forcing MS to play dirty. All this buying of studios has produced nothing of benefit for any gamers outside a subscription service that will eventually charge whatever it wants and fill games with more in game purchases.
Happy to hear Xbox recognizes just how much of a threat Sony is to them.
@Jireland92: Pretty much this.😄
I don't know what Nintendo thinks about all this but I know for certain Reggie Fils-Aime is going to tell us what Nintendo thought back when he was NoA president....
awp69 wrote:
Because clicks and engagement. Much as I hate the negativity of it all and how it polarises gamers rather than bringing us together there is no doubt these articles consistently get a lot of hits and comments.
Not surprising, it's spicy stuff and IS interesting, even if it's tiresome too.
Aaaaand I've just contributed to that engagement some more
They own Bungie the makers who made Halo!
Can we stop calling PlayStation a Japanese giant? Playstation are now corporate American (plus one miserable ex-Geordie) and all the worse for it.
Perhaps Sony should concentrate on putting out some banging PS5 exclusives and shift enough tub o' lard consoles to make Microsoft's standpoint moot?
@Crabbitsteve You're right since they are still releasing multiplatform games.
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