New Chinese Rules Could Change Some of PS5, PS4's Biggest Games

Can’t say I disagree with this at all.

They definitely gonna apply changes only the Chinese version , it wouldn't make sense with the kind of money they're making.

Policy changes that I really wish would be implemented worldwide. It might not be China's intent but their rules are squashing some of the more predatory tactics used in F2P games.

How sad is it that China is doing more about gambling in gaming than the supposedly ''free'' West is?
Oh, i'm sorry. They're ''surprise mechanics''. Gotcha.

Good. There should be more of this.

@LifeGirl Freedom means being allowed to do what you want. It’s not surprising that free societies are more inclined to allow activities that have external costs.

Not allowed fun we all need an escape geez
Although cut down on loot crates is good but I don't gets only allowed 3 hours play at the weekend, it's the only time I game I kind of get a bit crazy on the time I spend in game lol

@LifeGirl For once, I completely agree with you. When capatalism is your god there is no incentive to legislate to protect the vulnerable and change preditory practices. The weak ineffective half steps taken by a handful of country's only go to show how inneffective our systems are at containing such practices.

This shows that a system like china has, for better or not, has the mandate and tools to tackle these problems in a way that the west never will. Are they right to do so? Thats another debate, but having been addicted to a gatcha for 5 years, I believe they are correct to ban these preditory practices and I sure wish the west could have more effective tools to look at these issues and make a genuine difference.

I agree with limiting the insidious nature of f2p and gatcha mechanics but in Genshin's defence its one of the least predatory out there. Pretty much all content is clearable with free characters, it relies more on FOMO and waifu baiting than powercreep or pay to win mechanics.

Freedom being the freedom to be goaded into spending money through predatory practices is the most hilarious outcome. One day we will live in a totalitarian state where lootboxes are outlawed.

I'd rather buy the games for $100 and get rid of all this luck based stuff. Maybe then I'd even PLAY it xD

@McBurn It is not pure luck based, it is well programmed ilusion of luck...

Looks like China is doing right thing.

@McBurn How would you monetise the game to fund its perpetual growth? $100 would buy you a lot of game, but it wouldn't fund the kind of expansions that games like Genshin get.

Maybe keep the expansions free but charge for the new characters - Include the base character and some materials, but also add into the game content to unlock the full potential of the character, have the upgrades attached to level milestone or character story progress.

@Mintie: Of course the expansions I would buy extra if I still like a game by that point and want to play it.

I do understand however that there are not enough people like me to sustain such a model, which is why I excuse myself from playing those games instead.

@djlard Yeah, of course it's not literally luck based, but....maybe I should have just said I don't like that system-.-'

@Mintie I'd pay a flat $5 for a new character and maybe another fiver for a cosmetic outfit but let's not pretend all of this content is worth the literal billions these games make. It's just unchecked capitalism running amok since why make only some of the money when you can make ALL of the money?

The evil has been defeated

It shouldn't be the responsibility of the government to protect you or your kids from these games. If you have kids then be a parent and regulate it yourself. If you're an adult then show some self-control and don't participate.

If the majority of people didn't participate the problem would take care of itself. The last thing you should want is for the government to stick it's bumbling nose into your business. It'll just create more bureaucracy and set a precedent that can be abused in the future.

TikTok is also different in China they don't care if the Western youth wastes their time.

Honkai Star Rail is the first of this type of game I've actually enjoyed. The interesting thing however is that playing the game daily has actually made me spend less money on the game. All together I've spent only around $60 (so a full price game basically) and honestly got a pretty good setup for my team.

Sure there is grinding involved but I take care of the more grindy parts of the game on my phone on my breaks at work or before I go to bed as I actually find it kind of relaxing. I save the more interesting quests for when I'm playing on PS5.

However I won't say no to spending even less money of course. I'm sure things will work out one way or another.

Finally a big hitter getting involved in the bs side of new online games. They need heavily regulating. When the biggest viewed shows on twitch are slot machines and unpacking fifa cards, the gacha / gambling IS the game.

The are also hugely addictive for a certain personality type.

I never entertain these games and buy around 50-60 games a year. People who love gacha spend all their money within one or two games. If companies yeet these nefarious and predatory practices, guess what? I will buy your game. If it has lootboxes, season passes and mobile esque daily logins - its a hard pass. I love freedom, I love the fact I can complain about the government and go on a march if I want. It doesn't mean I should allow my number 1 hobby to be idiofied via bucket jangling shareholders who don't know their arse from their R2 trigger.

i totally agree with this.
Gachas is fun, i appreciate the concept. But it got out of bound in many areas.
its about time that governments put a brake on greedy companies trying to ripoff people. i hope many other countries follow the example.
Just keep it simple and not too greedy !

Good for china, we'll never get this law from the west lol. I like genshin impact though since it's possible to play it without spending money.

Gacha games are so slimy to me.

@McBurn Yes, me neither.

Genshin and HSR are perfectly reasonable F2P games if you ONLY spend money on the daily currency and the battle pass.

However, purchasing currency directly in those games is extremely predatory. I have to commit to never buying currency directly, because it is very easy to spend 100 dollars just to get a 5-star you want.

Hopefully, these changes will improve the monetization of the game for the better.

@Mad001 Yea, don't know what these guys commenting are smoking. Maybe they should move and live in China and then they'll start missing their lost freedom. The only thing western societies should change is breeding stupid and incompetent people which I'm seeing more and more these days. This and missinformation is our biggest hurdle, and they go hand in hand. Well educated people can think for themselves and are not manipulated by politicians as easily.

For anyone that agrees with anything that China does, I invite you to move and live there. Come back in 5 years if it is possible and tell us how your life was.

@Sil_Am bigdays gone fan here bud. I prefer what comes from the east like Godzilla minus one 1 better than anything made in the west that's what I mean

@Mad001 Did I say something about Days Gone?
Japan is totally different from China in modern days and they make the best games in the world.

@Sil_Am lol the icon you have all interestedvin.is good games