
Following comments from Xbox boss Phil Spencer over how he's unsure who's helped by Helldivers 2 not launching on Microsoft consoles, Xbox fans have set up a petition directed at PlayStation to try and convince them to bring the co-op shooter to Xbox Series X|S. Close to 23,000 signatures have been garnered so far, with the petition saying it "heralds the arrival of a beloved franchise on new platforms" and "signifies a potential turning point in the ongoing console wars".
Based on its unexpected popularity since release — with concurrent players on PC this weekend beating out peak player counts in games like Destiny 2 and Starfield — the suggestion of Helldivers 2 on Xbox is all about dismantling "console wars" as it "embraces a vision of gaming that celebrates diversity and collaboration across platforms. It continues: "By making Helldivers 2 available to Xbox players, PlayStation can take a bold step towards dismantling the barriers that have long divided the gaming community."
The petition was set up in the wake of Spencer's comments in an interview following the announcement that four Xbox games will be making their way to other platforms — those titles are expected to be Hi-Fi Rush, Grounded, Pentiment, and Sea of Thieves. Speaking to Game File, he said: "I will say, when I look at a game like Helldivers 2 – and it's a great game, kudos to the team shipping on PC and PlayStation – I'm not exactly sure who it helps in the industry by not being on Xbox." Presumably speaking to its multiplayer and live-service hooks, Helldivers 2 is a game that'll live or die based on how many people are playing it, with the thinking being that it'll have an even bigger player pool with an Xbox version. It's clear that PS5 and PC players have already made it a hit, though.
Of course, a petition won't get Sony to budge on its target platforms. Would you still like to see Helldivers 2 make the leap to Xbox platforms, though? Share your thoughts in the comments below.
[source change.org, via purexbox.com]
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Ah yes, Phil Spencer moaning about PS having good exclusives when his own platform is buying everyone up and making mediocre exclusives.
Does that man ever not double talk?
On one hand it's cool for everyone to have access to everything. On the other hand what's the point of going the extra mile ever?
Competition is good. Capitalism is good.
I'll repeat what I've constantly said and people can call me a fanboy if they want, I don't care, I like and game on multiple platforms and have the receipts to prove it... Exclusives are good, they're what help sell products and the only reason Phil Spencer spouts the stupidity he does about them is because the Xbox brand tanked after Mattrick's idiocy and he was never able to get it back on track. If roles were reversed and Xbox was outselling PlayStation 2:1, there's no way he's saying the same stuff he does now.
I feel like I need to leave the internet for a while, will this ever end?
Lol and how big exactly would the playerbase be on xbox?
Sure, let's release it on XBox. Shall we say.... same release date as Starfield's PS5 version? Seems fair.
Why not? won’t bother me if the Xbox folk get to enjoy the sweet smell of a freshly napalmed bug hives and we all strive as one to deliver democracy to planets of bugs who seemingly are a threat to our planets despite not having the ability to transport to our colonies via ships.
THEY’LL NEVER TAKE OUR WAY OF LIFE!!!
I think Sony should allow it on one condition only. That it only releases on the Series X. This would put the cat amongst the pigeons. And sony could say its only serving its lower common denominator which is ps5 specs. Then xbox would have to lump it or leave it.
If they lump it, then other developers will follow suit and we will soon be rid of the parasite xbox series s
It’s interesting how this passive-aggressive approach from Xbox of “we’re releasing some of our exclusives onto PlayStation so we expect a reciprocal gesture” is coming only after the lackluster results of their own first party output. As they not only released Starfield, Redfall, etc as console exclusives, but even going so far as to cancel existing PlayStation builds that were in progress. Now that those games have performed middling, all of a sudden there’s this narrative that Xbox needs to go multiplatform, so naturally PlayStation should too.
I get that Helldivers 2 is a multiplayer game, and so there’s this idea that ‘more players would make it better’ but it does seem a little suspect to make these demands after the big reveal that Xbox are porting over some of their library
Jokes aside, I wouldn't be at all surprised if some (some!) PS exclusives eventually come to Xbox maybe 1-2 years after their PS/PC launches. I'm unsure how that'd work for MP games, though. The hang wringing over this doesn't make sense. Most people who would buy a ps5 just for an exclusive have already bought one, and the percentage of PS owners who even buy exclusives is fairly low. Hence why Sony us worried in the first place. I find the idea of the 10th gen collectively playing all console games kind of exciting, TBH. Especially if BC keeps on being a thing. The consoles are pretty damn similar as it is.
Well it is technically a live service game so It would benefit from having access to as much players as possible. That said I would personally want something bigger in return from Xbox besides those four niche games.
Surely Redfall should have been there equivalent but they messed it up. Sony should release a ctyptic statement saying they will release some PS games on Xbox then just release MLB.
@Th3solution like you say, with Redfall, that was technically touted as a community multilayer game and they cancelled the build of the ps5 version. Now I don't want Redfall in hindsight bit we didn't know how it was going to turnout
Sure. Give us our Bethesda games back and Sony would be happy to I’m sure.
It's helping Sony, the same way Mario Kart is helping Nintendo. It's their own IP. Uncle Phil sure loves calling out one company but loves playing buddy-buddy with the other.
I'll only listen to his words by the time Xbox releases all of their games in all platform. Until then, his words means nothing
Console wars should be about sales and everyone enjoying games irregardless of system. Xbox took to eliminating that aspect. Now sales are falling for Xbox, quite a blunder keeping hit games exclusive to last generation consoles. Maybe buying all those devs wasn’t such a good idea after all.
For the love of Democracy, NOOOOO!!!!
It's hard enough to log in to the servers at the moment, please don't open it up to the Xboxers yet.
I would say Phil Spencer is two faced, but a more accurate description would be no faced. That man wears whichever mask is more convenient for him at the time.
Definitely not for a while. The server issues are bad enough for PlayStation players. We don't need people who don't even buy video games to block it up.
@Ashina exactly. No mention of Splatoon or Mario Kart but he's so weird about PlayStation especially post Starfield and ABK. Also didn't Xbox have literally the biggest game this year in Palworld?
Their diety Phil Spencer has written a new gospel that says exclusives don't help anyone, so now this will be the new message from his cult of personality.
Guess Grounded, Halo Infinite, Forza Motorsport, Sea of Thieves, Palworld and other live service games aren't that great or else people on the other side wouldn't port beg for Helldivers 2.
I could understand this a bit more if it wasn’t on the back of MS spending the best part of $80billion simply to lock games out of competing platforms. It just seems super hypocritical. Unless they plan on bringing their exclusive live service games to PS such as Halo Infinite and Forza Motorsport I don’t see why Sony should give them theirs.
Believe me I don’t want to have this bitter fanboyish attitude but it’s just getting frustrating now to watch the direction MS are going. For the last decade it seems that Xbox’s entire business strategy has been centred around piggybacking on other people’s hard work and talent while bringing very little to the table themselves.
Naaaa, it’s fine the way it is
Oh no here we go, because xbox exclusives are coming to playstation xbox fans are going to start feeling entitled. Playstation have no need to put this game onto Xbox and shouldn't feel pressured to either.
Phil Spencer reminds me of me when I was in 3rd grade and Pokémon cards were just becoming a hot item..
So much wheeling and dealing for them at that age.. and he reminds me of the kids saying dude this is rare! So he can’t get your Charizard lol
It's like every xbox fan worships Phil and his words. If he didn't make that comment about HellDivers 2 then this petition wouldn't exist.
Don't know what's worse, Swifties or Spencies (yes I'm making that a thing).
The true hypocrisy of Phil Spencer and the Xbox fanbase still ceases to amaze me...
Why not. I think they should do it.
Just a minute ago these people were rooting for MS to go ahead with the largest acquisition ever in the industry, in a move that will severely reduce competition and increase exclusivity for many years to come.
Truly embarrassing.
I’m glad HD2 is doing so good and I’m happy that the studio is getting the recognition it deserves for putting out an incredible fun game.. but I hope we can solve this server issue and infinite quick play search for game..
Would using different server providers help? Like Amazon servers? I don’t know how true it is but I’m assuming these are Microsoft Azure servers, would buying more servers help the game or maybe using different ones?
Also I don’t care if Xbox gamers get to play this game as long as the servers are doing right. I have friends I would like to play this game who just own Xbox. People are getting tired of battle royale type of play with friends. And this is a nice change for once.
I have pc, ps5 and series x and if I wanted to play this sort of game, I'd get it on ps5 to avoid the pc anticheat going on my pc.
I wouldn't sign a petition which I know wouldn't get anywhere but increase the salt on the console salt seasaw of life. I just can't see the point, lol.
The servers can't even handle PS5 and PC.
Helldivers 1 was never released on Xbox and was almost entirely a PlayStation game. Sony published and funded Helldivers 2.
Why should it be on Xbox?
This isn't like Doom or Fallout, which are/were multiplatform titles. This isn't "console wars". Buying up two large publishers and making their IP exclusive is console wars.
Xbox already has:
Kena
Oddworld Soulstorm
Death stranding (I think unless it’s just PC)
No man’s sky
I do think that they’ll get more PS games on Xbox though if PS is getting some Xbox games, I doubt they’ll put PlayStation Studios games on the Xbox though
Xbox fans aren't petitioning for Microsoft to deliver good games but to have the competition bring their games to Xbox. Just shows the state of the Xbox fanbase and where their priorities lie.
And all of this come after Microsoft spending an enormous amount of money to get Elder Scrolls or Call of Duty Xbox's exclusive. Their level of hypocrisy is astonishing.
They should, but it should be digital only, pre-order only, $99.99, and they’ll only port it if enough people preorder, kind of like a kickstarter. If they want it so badly prove it.🤷🏻♂️
I have excellent news for Xbox fans regarding Helldivers 2. Xbox fans can play Helldivers 2 today, yes that's right you didn't hear me wrong. Go online or down to your local game store and pickup Helldivers 2 with a PS5. Sony isn't stopping you from playing Playstation games, only you are.
I'm not exactly sure who it helps in the industry by not being on Playstation, Indiana Jones, Starfield, Ori etc.
@UltimateOtaku91
Isn’t Helldivers a PlayStation Studios game?
If it goes Xbox it won’t be a PlayStation studios game anymore.
Just like No Man’s sky which got rid of the PS logo from it now that it’s a multi platform game
Wouldn't be surprised if Phils Microsoft deep pockets do a cheeky bid next year to buy Arrowhead studios
Xbox fans can buy it on pc at least, I think switch/ps5/pc is the best combo, or if you have high-end pc, just pc & switch is enough.
If they want to see what managed democracy feels like, maybe they should get PCs
Why don’t this xbox fanboys just go buy a ps5? Lol 😂
@BusyOlf Because its a trick. Microsoft is trying to play the fans on both sides like a fiddle. They want to take away Sony's winning hand to give them another chance, Sony should stick to their guns and just ignore it and PlayStation fans shouldn't be agreeing with it either.
@Dragoon1994 Kena and Death Stranding aren't on Xbox just PlayStation and pc
Just get a PS5. It's funny how Phil, the same guy who tried to block COD from Playstation is now crying over a Sony owned first party IP not coming to Xbox.
>beloved franchise
Lolwhat? Nobody's even heard of the thing until three weeks ago except of the handful who played the first game.
In the name of ending the console wars?
We do everything in the name of managed democracy.
Anything else is treason.
@Dragoon1994
No, it isn't a PlayStation Studios game.
I mean I'm all for ending the childish console wars. But competition is good as well. Just a bit less tribal. But as I was called a butt hurt Sony pony* for crying over losing Doom, Elder Scrolls etc I can live with Hell Divers 2 being console exclusive for now 🤣.
*Didn't actually happen but sounded good.
@Dragoon1994 Those were just timed exclusives apart from Death Stranding but Sony sold the publishing rights of death stranding 1 to 505 games so they could assess how well a game does on PC without too much fuss from the fanbase.
That Kena rumour seems to have just been a rumour. Nothing was ever confirmed from ember labs but even so it was only ever timed anyway but it has been 3 years already.
@ZhuckelDror Yeah but Sony owns the Helldivers IP.
I still can't believe how big this game got all of a sudden. Leading into launch the buzz felt borderline nonexistent and then next thing you know the servers are melting and Xbox fans are partitioning for it on their platform. I definitely didn't see it coming for sure.
Anyway I don't see it happening anytime soon. For one they are still working on stabilizing the servers and adding more players is not going to help with that situation. And two, Playstation seems perfectly happy with the current setup of keeping their exclusives only on Playstation or PC. The idea of "We will give you game A so you can give us game B" just isn't how it works.
Phil port begging for PlayStation's games will never not be hilarious if you had good games of your own Phil you wouldn't need to beg your competition for their stuff. It's your own fault Xbox is where it's at because you're beyond incompetent at your job you've spent billions of Micro$ofts money and where has it gotten you? This guy is a joke and I wish he would just go away and take his little cult with him
@Areus
Honestly thought they were on Xbox though
@MrMagic
I see.
I remember oddworld being timed exclusive though
Novel idea for ya Phil, get an equally good exclusive.
You can have Babylon's Fall 👀
"Can we play?" 😂....... No!
Guess it's time to revive the "NOGAEMS" meme and adjust it a bit.
Go play Starfield, Xbots.
It's all rubbish really. In supporting the argument, yes any live service game does better if available to all. As to the point, who does it benefit? Sony. It benefits Sony as they are still working in the exclusivity world and its a strategic direction that MS have only just piveted.
Was a whole different story when Microsoft made PUBG a timed exclusive to xbox. The only people that helped was Fortnite allowed them to suck up playstation players who couldnt play PUBG and now look at the two games fortunes.
Pls I BEG, can we have a week without an xbox article on a playstation website.. im tired.
@Dragoon1994 it's half and half, it's not made by a playstation developer but playstation own the IP and part funded it's development.
@BiosNova yep coming from phil the dude who bought Bethesda and almost took xbox gaming division down due to his failures in making bethesda games exclusive.
Really hope sony just does a forever exclusive on ps and pc.
Xbox fans begging for Playstation exclusives just shows that even "hardcore Xbox fans" won't even play Xbox's exclusives, even when they're great games
@UltimateOtaku91 "Don't know what's worse, Swifties"
How the hell did you bring Swift into a Helldiver's 2 article 😅 also not sure what Sammy Barker did to you that you are calling him out like that 👀
Phil Spencer makes me sick lmao. A decade+ of failure and his final plan is to beg PlayStation & Nintendo for exclusives.
Unlimited resources, $100 BILLION in acquisitions, do your job and build your own exclusives to support your console eco-system. Absolute loser mentality his entire time as Xbox boss.
Without exclusives, these consoles are useless, will not sell and Xbox has proved that 110%, no one will take Microsoft's bait on this.
@Savage_Joe not really. Releasing on xbix series s, you have to get to it running and at a decent performance. To do this, you have to conpromise the game/vision. Steam Deck owners have to lower settings as much as possible to get it to run and with advances in pc gaming which steam was primarily targeted for, the steam deck will soon be outdated and not run more modern games. Thats the risk you run with an open system as opposed to closed console systems. Companies are not releasing games for steam deck, they are releasing for steam. Hope that makes sense in what I am saying
Anyone remember the fake Starfield petition made by an Xbox fan to try and make fun of PlayStation players?
How the tables have turned. 😁
I'm just surprised that all 23,000 people who bought Series X/S consoles signed the same petition!
Christ on a bike, the absolute guff that Xbox talks, around and around in circles, to obfuscate the very clear fact that that they just don't. have. the. games! They harp on and on about 'The industry' this and 'The players' that. None of it means anything if you don't have the games. They are trailing far behind. They're in no position to sway the industry one way or the other - as evidenced by the fact that they can't even buy their way to the top. Nintendo make great games, which sells consoles. Sony make great games, which sells consoles. It's not rocket science. Xbox just continue to parade around these vague and hypocritical terms about 'Everybody wins' etc. Just make the friggin' games! It's exasperating!
"Xbox's Phil Spencer shared his bemusement about Sony's Helldivers 2 not being available on Microsoft's platform"
This guy is an absolute clown.
"I know we purchased Bethesda and ABK and canned games already in development on ps5 but i dont know why they wont give us Helldivers 2"
What a class A moron.
@Juanalf Haha well we know how avid Swifties are, well Spencer fans are giving them a run for their money 😂 she tells them what to do and they would do it, starting to see the same mentality with xbox fans with Phil.
I mean people act like this games success is from the Playstation 5 console... Nah the reason this game is so big is because of the PC market, we were sorely missing this type of game so when it launched we embraced it, same with Palworld sure it's on Xbox but it's successful because of PC, and Helldivers 2 is the same, exclusivity is just dumb these days with games costing so much and so many requiring lots of players for multiplayer we need to bring them to other platforms, with Sony recently talking about bringing their games to other platforms I guess they have finally realised that locking a game to a single platform isn't getting the most money and with how much games cost they need as much money as possible
We just have to hope the Devs keep up with constant content or most of us on PC will end up moving on within a month when the next big thing drops
This is so stupid tbh, some of the people signing that BS are the same that made fun of PS users for not getting Starfield.
Fanboys are the cancer of this industry.
@UltimateOtaku91 as a mainly PC player I would argue that both Xbox and PS fanboys are extremely deluded and cult like Xbox fanboys worship Phil and PS worship Jim Ryan both to cult like levels and don't get me started on how pathetic the people on both sides are with PS and Xbox fans constantly review bombing each others games, fighting in comment sections and even doing what you are doing
These are plastic boxes with a logo on them... Ran by billionaire companies who don't give a damn about anyone of the players only money and yet they have cults of kids worshipping them
Cry me a river.
Sometimes, gamers themselves have to look in the mirror and blame themselves for the incorrect purchase the have made...and yes, Xbox is an incorrect purchase. Has been for over a decade.
@Gamestation You must be new because nobody on this site is worshiping Jim Ryan.
Hey why not?? We need all the help we can get fighting this war with these nasty bugs
There is only room for 450,000 players at a time. If they can double that amount of people to the server then I’d say go for it.
War is a business, that include console wars lol.
So Spencer can buy up the industry and gamers just have to accept it but Sony funding and releasing a fun co-op game has the other side doing this?
Pathetic, utterly pathetic.
This isn't something new happens constantly on both consoles
@ShadowofTwilight31 what are you taking about take your fanboy glasses off this is a handful of gamers not Microsoft or Spencer and it happens all time seen plenty of Sony fan petitions too
Removed - unconstructive
If MS brings some actually important exclusive to PS, it will probably open the gates for Sony's ports to Xbox also.
They would want it free on game pass as well.
All companies need to do away with exclusivity. I wanna see Ford Camrys and Toyota Silverados. Also, put MacOS on PCs and vice versa. Make it easier for everyone 🙄
@Toot1st
Where did I say it didn't? Maybe take your own advice.
Xbox gamers told PS fans that their thoughts didn't matter and they should accept that Activision will go exclusive but are throwing a fit over a small game like Helldivers 2.
Also quick to throw the fanboy name calling, projecting are we?
Maybe give it a year, Phil..
@BiosNova Phil Spencer is a walking gaffe machine.
@Dragoon1994 Kena and Death Stranding are not on Xbox.
I see it this way Helldivers 2 should be Xbox because it's got some years for it if it keeps doing what it's doing, and with Microsoft having some of the best servers out their and you can't deny they don't. I reckon they would help ArrowHead with the capacity issue and work with everyone to keep it going and be more stable and not just for Xbox and PC because they could work with Sony as well.
It's a fantastic game one that would boost players and the game in general, the industry does need to grow and cross play isn't were it should be especially for live service games like HD2.
@Golem25 Trust me, you don't want Starfield. I'm an xbox player and Helldivers so far is the only game strongly making me consider buying a PlayStation as well.
If Helldivers 2 came to the Xbox console they will quickly make another petition for it to be on Gamepass, there's no pleasing some.
If MS agreed to invest deeply in server infrastructure for Helldivers then maybe it'd be worth it. In the meantime though I'm buying a ps5 to play it.
This is just sad lol
Playstation got games that the xbox players want to play, no xbox games are Playstation players asking xbox for.
First time I've heard about this. Being as its sonys money and they never even wanted cross play I doubt it will happen 😅
Also 23k is a tiny amount tbf but 🤷 fair play
I also love how this comment section is basically just pure Console war fany boy and burn the competition at the stake as if it was Nintendo and saga days 😂funny stuff as end of the day it's a tiny tiny amount of people that care about this stuff on either side
@TheFakulty wouldn't ever happen though. That would also be a real poor decision on sonys part to cut out the rather good series S 👀
@UltimateOtaku91 oh god lol Spencies I’m using that for now on
@TheFakulty you'd be surprised how well the steam deck runs stuff 🤷 also most if not all devs get games running on the series S just fine. Let alone add in cloud gaming
Helldivers will eventually go the Xbox, but not as a good will gesture on the part of Sony, or because the Xbox community is asking for it. The game will go to the Xbox when it needs an influx of new players to keep it going, and not before...
Jesus it's hard enough to even get a game of helldivers going at the moment. I just keep getting "servers at capacity" all the time. Back to granblue and diablo 4 until they actually get the damn thing working again. Been a while since I laughed so much whilst being murdered by giant bugs.
I still don't know what the hell this game is and I'm too lazy to look it up.
They can stick to their majestic Forzas and flight sims, for all I care.
@Lup have you seen starship troopers ? It's like that in game form , up to 4 player coop ,its very cool
@Mreeezie well its the only console you can play it on , I think 330k pc users as the game is locked at 450k and the servers have been full , thats 120k ps users.
They wouldn't just want it on Xbox, they'd want it free on Gamepass day 1. 🤣
let em have it. all games on all platforms is good to me
@Lup it’s a game about diving competitions into hell fire
Sony should reply with a kind gesture and offer to give a PS5 and Helldivers 2 to the first 2,000 people who trade in their XBox. It might cost them money in the short run but it would be hilarious to see the response.
@JSnow2 agreed lol.
@Gamer83 Wasn't just mattrick, Spencer and co continued the same exact practices. They just aren't stupid enough to cause a nightmare like Mattrick did at e3. The xbox consoles require internet far far more often just for basic checks, licenses etc than playstation ever does. I could be offline for months on ps5 and not have any issues outside of no multiplayer. on xbox I couldn't even play a game if I don't check in with my probation officer.
that's the problem, nothing changed. The public relations did, that's it.
Anyone wanna spread some democracy on @PaperAlien?
The solution is simple yet pretty costly. If you are a Xbox fan, don’t get the next xbox, get a pc and save money on game keys from platforms like Humble Bundle, GG, and others, as opposed to purchasing from first-party marketplaces, can contribute significantly towards offsetting the initial investment in a higher-priced PC.
@thefourfoldroot1 doubtful I know I wouldn't be! It takes what? A decade or decade and a half for BEST to release 1 game ? Starfield look how long that took look at how many editions of skyrim we got before Starfield? Skyrim launched in the ps3 Era and all through ps4 and the begging of ps5 Era all we got was skyrim special edition/ skyrim deluxe/skyrim vr/skyrim super ultra mega k.o Ken times 10 edition. It was the pc mod community who truly made the game great and even fixed the bugs that was in it in all of those editions later that the studio wouldn't be botherd with.
@Jamesblob well...when you put it like that...SHEESH! lol
Well, maybe once Helldivers 2 reaches its full potential and it’s been more than a year Sony will consider it. 😉
@Sifi That isn't what they said, they said no first party SEQUELS they said nothing about new IPs. Concord is scheduled to come out this year( may or may not happen) this is from Firestudieos which is first party.
It's a live service game. It would make all sense for them to bring them to more broad audience and money in. Better for Devs or worse, because servers issues but also because it would bring cash flow for the future dlcs. I hope Sony will buy arrowhead before they sell out themselves to epic and they will ruin it to the ground like every other game they did that isn't Fortnite.
Hold up lol okay so Microsoft buys up two massive publishers less than 5 years apart and studios for almost 100 billion and Phil Spencer is whining over Helldivers 2 skipping Xbox? Yet took games away from other platforms so xbox ecosystem can have exclusives for the xbox players and now Phil Spencer wants more that includes Sony's owned ips as well dude..come on lol also didn't Phillip Spencer said Sony can make their own offerings to compete with COD? Phil Spencer probably saw the record breaking that broke COD records and was pretty petty..You bet ur behind Microsoft is gonna go after Arrowhead Studios next just because of Helldivers success. However Helldivers is a Sony ip not Arrowhead Studios.
@truerbluer I’m lost. What’s considered a “good game”.
@11001100110zero It's subjective but in general I'd say a combination of good critical reviews, positive playerbase reception and awards in recognition of its excellence.
Sure, while PlayStation gets Grounded & Pentiment...
I believe it will save Sony from the difficult times, the game should be fine, after two games, no more war, it has to be at some point if we have a democracy Let it finally become available on xbox
The game should also be made available on Xbox
Yes! Yes! Bring HellDivers 2 to all platforms, so all gamers can be united in staring at the "Servers at Capacity" screen!
I’d love to see Helldivers on XBox, but there’s no way it’s going to happen. Nintendo and Sony both know that guarding and milking your exclusives is the way to sell consoles, and Microsoft just doesn’t have enough great first party IP (until Blizzard) to leverage that effectively - Halo is great but it’s not enough to carry the platform. Phil said years ago that Microsoft’s gaming future was cloud and subscription model, which means they don’t have to worry about selling consoles like Nintendo and Sony do, they just need to sell as many subscriptions as possible. I think with the Blizzard acquisition they’re on the right track, now they just need people outside their traditional console base to sign up for GamePass and getting some solid games on PlayStation and Switch are a grey way to start. Sea of Thieves is much better today than it was 6 years ago. Fantastic game!
If they want Helldivers 2, then make Microsoft give us Hellblade 2. Seems fair to me.
@BiosNova Nope. He’s a hypocrite. Whines about not having a game exclusive to PS5, yet had zero qualms about taking Bethesda and ABK games away from PlayStation.
@TheFakulty How has the Series S ever affected your ability to play games?
@__jamiie it has not affected first party games although I think it probably has also kept cross gen development going and that's because it has forced most third party developers to have to develop for a machine that specs wise is last gen.
This has caused an underwhelming feeling this generation. Dont get me wrong, there is some great games out there and I really enjoy playing current and back catalogs of games. But you have to admit that nothing has screamed next generation because we are having the same experience as ps4. So indont want to encourage xbox to make another disjointed next generation with a lesser machine being released.
Ok ..........ok....ok.ok.ok kkkkkkkkk.......
So Xbox is allowed exclusives and is allowed to buy massive games studios to make exclusive content but when ever playstation do it and do it better they cry and say it's not fair. Happened with "The Last Of Us" and now this.
I mean 15 years ago you couldn't help yourself but rub playstations face in it with the PS3 and 360 but now the tables have turned.
I've got a tip for everyone
Sell your Xbox because it's a dying console and get a PS5. Microsoft would have no choice but to make a deal with Sony to create games and then everyone is happy.
Everyone gets to play helldivers 2
And everyone gets to play elder scrolls 6 when that comes out.
The blinded xbox fanboys should have first make petitions for their dear M$ to create good games for them 🤣🤣🤣🤣 not to beg for what others have. They're acting like bunch of jealous creatures
@Jamesblob well said, we are gonna get the same thing when Stellar Blade launches in April...
I don’t know why they didn’t to begin with. If you’re going to release the game on pc the same day as the console version then it’s not really an exclusive at that point. Console exclusives are already becoming less and less important as the console tech is virtually identical between machines these days, so really what’s the point.
Just trade in your mini fridge & buy a PS5, job done.
Exclusives on any platform are stupid, you’re literally reducing the amount of money you make, release the game on certain platforms to begin with, but after a while share it with the other platforms.
@Gamestation
I 100% disagree. I've seen no one that has a PS5 worship Ryan as they do Spencer. I've seen no mention of Ryan to be honest.
This console war nonsense is really just childish and sad.
That being said, if this game wasn't as fun to play as it apparently is, alongside hype, it would be getting crucified for the unfixed server and basic online game functionality problems.
It seems like this should have been an all-hands-on deck, Sony jumping in to help type situation as soon as it was apparent there was a problem (DAY 1!).
At this point, pathetic console war rhetoric aside, this game couldn't even accommodate another player base right now. Frankly, who knows how long the infrastructure needed to be put into place to merely allow the base it current has to actually play freely will occur.
At this point a people have paid for a product they cannot consistently use when convenient for them.
Anyone trying to start a console war in the replies are man-babies! I been playing on PC and LOVING this. With it being the type of game it is everyone should have access to it and unite the platforms to defend peace and liberty!
@NinjaWaddleDee Well the petition had over 26,000 signatures in under 24 hours so a lot lol
Why? Why should a game that took so long to finance and get to where it is today..... now suddenly be ruined by series s and the time it eill take to get it on there (going by the massive and constant delays Starfield and Forza 8 suffered and just about every other 2019/2020 Xbox announced games, most of which still have no release dates)???
Why should the developer that got massively expanded by Sony, be told tomorrow, "start downgrading everything you have done with this game so it can run, to Phil's not compromised vision, on series s".
Nope, it isn't happening. Just like Remake will never come to Xbone (last gen's Xbox lowest denominator) and Rebirth will never come to series s (this gen's Xbox lowest denominator).
You can thank Phil Xbox fans. "Power your dreams" lol.
The even funnier thing is, the same people said this game "looks like crap" a year, 6 months, 2 months, 2 weeks even, ago.
And right now Stellar Blade and Rise of Ronin are OF COURSE crap. And the same thing will happen like with most PlayStation funded/related ventures.
Hiroki Totoki shot down any chance of this happening.
Sooo do xbox fan boys not own a pc? Its crossplay on steam, or are they so stuck to their microsoft ecosystem that even steam is too much?
@andrewsqual its funny because my rog ally handheld can run ff7 remake intergrade just fine.. does that mean its more powerful than an xbone? No doubt itll be able to run rebirth as well because most current gen pc are stronger than a ps5.
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