Microsoft Exec on Helldivers 2: I'm Not Sure Who It Helps By Not Being on Xbox

Oh no, is this going to be Microsoft's angle from now on?

"We're putting our games on other platforms, so why can't Sony / Nintendo do the same?"

Classic corporate deflection technique if so.

Yea this is definitely port begging dx

Port begging. Unlike Xbox, PlayStation can't be played on most of the screens; hence, needs to have exclusives to tie customers down to their system.

It helped PlayStation/sony.
It’s literally their IP despite being third party developed.
This just feels like phil fueling exclusive hate.

PlayStation. It helps PlayStation. Omg, I solved it!

I want gamers to be able to play as much as possible, but I don’t think the reasoning behind exclusives is hard to parse.

Microsoft is killing it today!!!!
💀💀💀💀💀😂😂💀💀💀

It helps my grandma not to be on Xbox since she is an elderly woman and it hurts her spine to sit on a non-ergonomic piece of furniture

Now lies of p aka ron desantis twin brother🤔 is port begging come on dog.haha.word up son

@ShogunRok that's exactly what will happen my friend.

Remember the "Nintendo is my best friend" campaign when crossplay started to be a thing? Well this will be more of the same LOL

@ShogunRok They're desperate since they know they've been on a losing streak for a long time now.

This is 100% port begging btw. Those socialists want to infiltrate our forces.

I’m sure if Sony did bring hell divers 2 to the Xbox we wouldn’t have to sit through two weeks of rumours for a corporate PR ***** podcast and a future unannounced Nintendo direct.
It would just be PlayStation announcement: hell divers 2 will be releasing on Xbox on the 25th pre-order now.

Disney: I'm not sure who it helps by House Of Dragon not being on Disney Plus

I mean. He is right.
Game is already on PC day one. So you don't need PlayStation to play it. And it isn't a system seller. So if Xbox port existed, nothing would have happened. Except Sony having more money. Which they kinda need.

MS playing the unfair game while being this petty still.
It's on freaking PC as well which is unheard of so what's the problem. Nobody cares about Nintendo games being exclusive?

@mrbone
Is this what being a part of the Xbox ecosystem has become? Wowza!

Helldivers 2 is awesome! Wish everyone could play it, but I understand wanting to release on PC and the console with over 55 million units. At least there’s Palworld!

And Starfield not being on playstation helps.....

Yeah nice try Phil 👍

It’s a new game, by Microsoft’s own logics, helldivers 2 needs to be on PlayStation 5 for about a year (or over 6) before it would be eligible for multiplat.

He's of course being deliberately dumb, but just to point it out for anyone that actually thinks he believes this: The point is to get people to buy your console so you can get the 30% rip on all the other software. Helldivers 2 could make more money if it were on Xbox/Switch, but it's offset by getting/keeping people in your ecosystem and taking 30% of all the other games they'll buy. So who does it help? Sony, by using it to entice people into the ecosystem.

The reason why PlayStation and Nintendo games aren't on Xbox is the same reason why Xbox games are coming over to other platforms, Xbox series X/S sales are terrible, selling around less than half of the PS5's numbers and selling at a slower pace compared to Xbox One in the same timeframe. Sony and Nintendo don't want to spend time and money porting their games to a dwindling platform.

I kinda agree. A game like Helldivers 2 needs the playercounts and sure it has that but adding more would only benifit the game in the long run. Keep the likes of Spidey 2 exclusive sure but Helldivers 2? Yeah it wouldn't harm being on Xbox as well.

@XboxistheBestBox
I've seen how you talk in other places, you definitely show some bias yourself so you shouldn't be casting any stones (not like that username isn't a dead giveaway!)

@XboxistheBestBox Resetera? A place that has one of the most terrible reputations on the entire net? Even Reddit is more civil then there 😂

I said it regarding all live service stuff, needs to be on as many platforms as possible. Live service needs players and players who spend.

It would make sense to have it on all platforms.

@XboxistheBestBox Phil is on record saying only a couple of games will go to PC. 🤣 This is just the start and you can count on that.

Here's the meat and potatoes of the situation. Microsoft don't want peace and harmony they want to win. If Playstation titles drop day and day on Xbox, Sony lose everything. Because even though there are some pros for ps5 hardware that make an experience on Playstation next level like the dualsence haptics and adaptive trigger. It doesn't matter to most people all people care about is price and as it stands the series s is the cheapest on the market. Most people will take the savings. Without a sufficient reason to stay people will swap. There's a reason why the switch is still selling even with inferior hardware and it's not because nintendo is putting their games on other platforms.

I can image game hostage negotiations going like this, "ok Spiderman as you get out of the car don't walk over to the Xbox car too fast. Wait for Starfield to cross at the same time. Good luck buddy"

@XboxistheBestBox someone who is literally called Xboxisthebestbox should not be throwing the F word around.

So I guess this would also apply to their games that are multiplayer?

It helps PlayStation move hardware and expand/reinforce their brand.
It helps the dev to optimize the game and ship it sooner. It’s one less platform to worry about…
What about acquiring entire studios that had games in development for PS, who did it help, Phil?

How would Helldivers 2 benefit from being on Xbox? The PlayStation 5 platform only is double Xbox & that's not including PlayStation 4 & PC. If Sony where to go multiplatform you choose Nintendo Switch. Also if exclusives didn't matter Activision & Bethesda would still be multiplatform.

Why would PlayStation want to have to spec game development for the bottom rate series S? And who would be buying on xbox? If its not on gamepass they don't sell. If 1% of xbox players bought it would be 250k total, and even games like spiderman 2 on ps5 has only sold to less than 20% of ps5 consumers so 1% is being very generous sales wise

I think once we see the better games come over from xbox then maybe Sony could return the favour, start with games like Returnal, Demon Souls Remake, HellDivers 2 and Sackboy and then move onto some prequels like God of War (2018), Death Stranding and Horizon Zero Dawn to try gain new fans and hope they make the jump to playstation to play their sequels.

Xbox is like: well we are porting 4 ***** games so give us all of your games that people actually want.

Also having to develop for the series s would probably add another year or 2 to development

Playstation and Nintendo isn't slowly dying so why would they release their jewels on rival platforms.
Things like this is an embarrassing look

Hmmm who it serves. 2 to 1, MS. 2 to 1. Think about it. That's based on just shipped and not taking account steep price cuts to try and close a 3 to 1.

Phil port begging for Playstation games now? He truly is a pathetic little worm isn't he? Guess what Phil PlayStation and Nintendo don't need to put their games on other platforms because they aren't a failed brand that nobody wants can he just go away already

Lmao the irony in that statement.

Lol, it's hilarious that he'd say that after his "only 4 games" announcement.

People are rightfully roasting him but I truly hope Sony & Nintendo are never stupid enough to take the bait on this. Who benefits if there's no exclusives and it's just an arms race to make as much content as possible? Trillion dollar Microsoft who would gobble up the entire industry if the other two didn't have their consoles protecting them.
Con man Spencer knows they can't compete, the next road is to try to kill to exclusives. What a loser

Actually having PS games on Xbox does help Sony (not just the financial aspect)

Because player picks up game, sees the quality etc of a ps studio game and then potentially buys into the PS ecosystem to play other exclusives.

(Obviously the same can happen for ms/nintendo)

Port beg shortly followed by Gamepass beg from the Xbox players.

Besides isn't the Vita a more viable platform at this point.
(Joke, mostly).

@VanguardKaiser
Dieing platform ? The only dieing platform is PlayStation

@Keyblade-Dan Yet you PlayStation players just get done port beging for Indiana Jones & Starfield though ?

“Perhaps, though, if he’s really uncertain about the purpose of exclusivity and the advantages it has, he should consider why Xbox has only announced four unnamed titles for PS5 today, and not more.”

Very good point!

As disappointing as it was having Sony tell us that they won’t have any major sequels release for over a year, while admitting that they have to do better as a business, I really appreciate the honesty. It’s refreshing.

Xbox? Wow. Yet their fan base is ever loyal! Lie to their face and they’ll lap it up like dogs!

Jesus F Christ.
I already knew MS had no direction, but this is beyond my wildest imaginations. This podcast is really one more nail in the coffin.

@lacerz
Xbox has 10 exclusives this year.
What does PlayStation have after Final Fantasy Remake thats first party ?

I’ve been an avid gamer since the mid 90’s.. but I was into gaming news since the ps2 era.. when the 360 came out.. they were buying exclusive rights for Call of Duty DLC, making games come out first for 360 then later on ps3, EA marketing deals with Xbox logo on every EA commercial..
So in saying that.. they lost their grip on the market and now playing this equalizer in gaming.. when they are the ones buying studios up and making games that were planned to be coming out for PS5 to be shelved..

I don’t buy into this.. they are deceptive as a whole company..
Sony bought Bungie and didn’t make their games exclusive.
Only games that are made exclusive from companies that Sony bought were new IP’s from company’s that no one has heard of.

Fake good guy Phil has been actively killing his Xbox consoles, pretending like things were this "enter lie" when it wasn't out here gaslighting. Now we here port begging.

He knows exactly who it benefits, and more importantly why it benefits them. It's the same reason why they are only porting four carefully selected games and not their big hitters. He's just trying to deflect and make make Sony look like the bad ones

Phil's a hypocrite. Swap Helldivers 2 and PlayStation in his quote with Halo infinite and Xbox. 😂 He knows Xbox is going to port all their games.

He saying to his diehard fans he understands exclusives matter but now he's basically saying he doesn't see any advantage to exclusives.

Xbox lost and so now they are trying to change the game. He's clearly trying to weaponize diehard Xbox fans against Sony here.

@Kevw2006 nobody on playstation wants "starfailed" though and indiana jones is still in development.

Sony needs to buy arrowhead immediately I don’t trust Phil at all.

You've got to laugh at these guys. Who does it help?? Why isn't it multiplatform?? It IS, it's on PC Phil! Now a question for Phil. Why did you spend almost $70billion on EXCLUSIVES???????????

Can't really make a statement without throwing shades to your competitor eh, Phil?

Seriously, let your business strategy do the talking and see if it works and stop with the nonsensical "eww, exCluSiviTy!" PR talk B.S.

@Jay767 Sony owns the Helldivers IP.

I wouldn't mind it on xbox more players etc but it's owned funded and published by Sony, why would they ,these 4 games are only the start , if they do well its guaranteed they will do more , if he knows what games why didn't he name them, to not upset fans ? If he wants ps gamers on board , they could make a song and dance about it , say we are for the gamers, here's our games.

I believe in exclusive content and always will. Even these streaming tv/movie services have it. If you're going to make a console you have to give people a reason to buy it and games that can't be purchased on a competing brand is one way (though certainly not the only way) to do that.

And all that aside, the only reason Phil Spencer keeps crying about this, like he's been doing for more than a handful of years now, is because the Xbox brand has faltered courtesy of his former moronic boss, and he was never able to fully fix the mess that Mattrick created. If roles were reversed and Xbox was outselling PlayStation 2:1, there's no way Spencer is talking like this.

@T-Bone09 ah yes because 2 weeks to a month of map pack exclusivity is comparable to whole modes being exclusive to playstation for the entire life cycle of MW 2019 🤔

"Only games that are made exclusive from companies that Sony bought were new IP’s" starfield is a new ip and so is the Indiana jones game, sony got exposed for trying to make starfield exclusive themselves no? I guess people are just gonna forget about the time sony paid to keep FF7 remake off of steam for years and Xbox indefinitely.

It's a miracle helldivers 2 is even on steam which just tells me the moneybags at Sony are mad and want their investment back if they didn't helldivers 2 would be an EGS exclusive 100%.

@ShogunRok Yes it 100% is. Its been Phil's / Microsoft's approach to the whole generation. Its why i cant stand him.

They did it with the increase in game prices to $70, they did it with the increase in console pricing (and then did both themselves once they had stoked the fires), they did it with game pass, they did it with cross-play (which Sony introduced way before Microsoft did with the likes of Portal 2 - but people conveniently forget that), and they have done it with various other things i cant remember right now.

They paint this virtuous image of themselves and casually run down Sony's business approach, which comes across as incredibly insincere and unprofessional - and is solely done to flame the console war (despite Phil claiming he hates it).

So these comments are 100% designed to deflect from what Microsoft is doing and paint Sony in a bad light.

I bet Phil is a really good guy, at least that's how he comes across. But man, it needs some extreme mental gymnastics to make sense of the stuff he has said over the years.

@PsBoxSwitchOwner I feel the same love service games should be across all platforms, but as for online games it should be open to all as well too help boost it's player count and keep it alive

I mean, I get his point in that games that need a big player base to generate money and fuel a compelling long term life cycle... yeah. Be on more platforms. But then... how did being exclusive help Sea of Thieves, or Halo Infinite, or Forza, or Redfall, or Gears of War, or any of the Game Pass timed-exclusives and console-exclusives they signed? I wish someone would have asked him that to his face.

Honestly, when I was on the market for a new console, I was open for Xbox and PS5 and opted for the latter because of ... the controller that looked better built. But now when I see Microsoft's attitude, I just have hate for them and their politics. You are pathetic, I will never support you. I'm not saying that I like Nintendo or Sony politics either, but at least they have some dignity and sense of honor.

“I will say, when I look at a game like (Forza/Halo/Starfield/Gears of War) – and it's a great game, kudos to the team shipping on PC and XBox – I'm not exactly sure who it helps in the industry by not being on Playstation,”

Funny how switching a few words here and there can make someone sound quite hypocritical.

For the same reason why you won't bring Starfield to PS5. Anyway Xbox has had it own exclusive success recently in Palworld. So stop crying Phil spencer.

@Deityjester Sony directly funded FF7 remake, the project wouldn't have happen without Sony money.

This is either the most or least self-aware thing Phil Spencer has ever said.

@Rmg0731 you mean 4 of their currently better games...

Literally only someone who hast played those 4 games would call them s*****. Admittedly grounded requires friends as does sea of thieves but with friends they are genuinely good games. The other 2 are solid, high tier, underappreciated single player games. Microsoft had no hand in his finish so even anti Microsoft bias should mean nothing there.

@Kierant202 played all but Sea of Thieves. There not good. Hi-fi is fine but dont know where the pentiment love is from

@ShogunRok I don't trust M$ not sure what they're planning in the long run. They're the master of disguise and changing words. Not to be trusted and only dealt with cautiously. I'm not actually worried about Sony as it's a multidimensional corporation, but rather for Nintendo focusing only on one type of media. To hell with M$

Haha... Phil Spencer can be such a joker. Now I want to hear him say the same about Nintendo games like Mario Kart.

Obviously it helps Sony

@ConsoleGamer86
“Xbox has 10 timed exclusives this year.”

Fixed it for ya!

@Rmg0731
Pentiment is the fifth highest ranked Xbox Series exclusive! The only four Series exclusives ranked higher are Forza Horizon 5, Microsoft Flight Simulator, Hi-Fi Rush, and Halo Infinite! If the fifth best game is crap like you say, that doesn’t say much about the Xbox game catalog!

A great example of passive aggressive jealousy I would say.

It sure does..make them beg for a bit longer..

@darkswabber I wonder if this is from his boss, Satya, who has admitted he dislikes the exclusive business model. And now, Phil is just parroting that sentiment.

@AdamNovice love the pink Floyd ref.
https://youtu.be/hGkaLbfaUZk?feature=shared

@ConsoleGamer86 "Dieing." It's dying..

@Keyblade-Dan
But Sony is putting its games on other platform...

"I'm not exactly sure who it helps keeping Helldivers 2 off Xbox"🤔
Says the executive whom has clocked up billions on Satya's corporate credit card buying up Zenimax Bethesda & Activision Blizzard to keep future iterations of franchises like Doom, Elders Scrolls,Diablo V,Crash,not to mention cancelled planned PS5 versions of games already in the works once the acquisitions were rubber stamped & they gained control despite promising publicly to the contrary,Phil??🙄 They literally spent billions removing third party AAA publishers from other gaming platforms!

To compare Helldivers 2 not coming to Xbox would be like saying why Forza Horizon doesn't benefit not coming to PS5/Switch 2!!
As always,the hypocrisy with "Gamer" Phil remains strong!

@lacerz
Since when ratings reflect how good a game is?

As someone who owns and plays all consoles people on here on here are so anti Xbox

If that's the case why did he spend billions on Bethesda to make Starfield only on Xbox and PC. I mean he saved Playstation owners £70 in the end but still the hypocrisy here is astonishing.

@Deityjester
I was just stating Microsoft as a whole.. just stating ways they were making things not good for gamers.. you’ve seen the emails they wanted to buy the industry from Sony.. now they are dead last. In Europe, being outside 4 to 1, altogether over 2 to 1.

And Starfield was in development on PS5.. although Microsoft owns the rights now. It was canceled. Helldivers 2 was published by Sony and never was in development on Xbox.. Sony owns the rights to the game.. two very different scenarios.. “so how does it benefit players “ Spencer asked.. it seems awful hypocritical..

Because Phil is still envious of PlayStation and he can't figure out how they do it. The simple answer is because ITS PLAYSTATION'S IP!!!!! He wants and expects solid PlayStation games and thinks he can buy PlayStation off by publishing four old uninteresting games on PlayStation, and expects to get PlayStation's best? If we're figuring math on this, figure that. You want God of War, but you think that Hi-Fi Rush or Sea of Thieves is an even trade? PlayStation isn't even that desperate to want to be on Xbox. MLB The Show is only there because the MLB forced Sony to do it, and you didn't stand up to the MLB on console exclusivity then, you just desperately wanted something good on your platform that you took it, oh and gave what wasn't yours to give away, and your platform still suffers today.

Xbox just can't be trusted ever! And his negotiation skills are pathetic.

@IndoorEnthusiast That ***** broadcast happened because of all the rumors. Probably all they wanted to do is exactly what you mentioned. Is not like Sony is immune to leaks.....

By that notion, why didn't they bring Sea of Thieves or Grounded to PS on day one?

It’s not OK if MS isn’t the one doing it. Phil is such a hypocrite!

Gaming really is on its arse isn't it. Demon souls and spiderman 2 are probably the only PlayStation 5 console exclusives I can think of, Xbox has the abortions like red fall and starfield, Nintendo doing there own thing quietly and getting on with it. And here we are nearly four years into current generation, hardly anything to scream about worth owning a ps5 or series x. You'd think developers would be pumping out exclusive games by the bucket load, but people are trying to get hell divers 2 on Xbox.... Hell divers 2 a lacklustre game that looks last generation at best with sprinkles of starship troopers and we are getting hyped for this? Why exactly do we game anymore really? Wish I hadn't bothered with current generation full stop at this point.... Almost four years into the generation and a rumoured pro on the way.... Don't bother. Average to poor this generation compared to ps4/Xbox one and certainly to PS3 and 360.

It could be the same reason as to why ps5 didnt get palworld but xbox did. Exclusivity.. no one really cares about the 4 xbox games that came to ps5. Is sony going to give xbox god of war ragnarok, horizon forbidden west, spider man 2? Doubt it