Over the last few weeks or so, there's been some debate regarding the PS5 and its perceived sales momentum. This discussion likely stems from the fact that Sony itself reported a decline in units sold year-on-year, and as a result, revised its commercial forecast. However, as we pointed out in our Reaction article, context is key.
The PS5 sold stupidly well early last year because Sony was finally able to overcome the pandemic-based production problems that had plagued the PS5 since launch. As such, direct comparisons would never paint a full picture — and this is again evidenced by new sales data from Circana's Mat Piscatella.
In his most recent report, the analyst confirms that the PS5 is currently trending ahead of the PS4 by 8% in the US, when time-aligned with the last-gen console. That's a very healthy sign, considering the PS4's immense popularity.
What's more, Piscatella comments that the PS5 is the region's market leader by a "significant margin". In other words, the current-gen system is vasty outperforming its competition. Indeed, the Xbox Series really seems to be struggling, as it's actually trailing its predecessor, the Xbox One, by 13% when time-aligned. Meanwhile, the Nintendo Switch is obviously a much older device, and so its influence is expected to wane over time.
The PS5 may have taken a hit when compared to the crazy numbers it was posting in early 2023, but it's becoming clear that the console is still selling extremely well. It'll be very interesting to see whether the PS5 can keep pushing ahead of the PS4 — especially with the PS5 Pro looming.
Do you think the PS5's momentum will hold? Could it really end up selling more units than the PS4 when all's said and done? Become an armchair analyst in the comments section below.
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Switch 2 is of no interest to me... but it is gonna absolutely dominate console sales as soon as it is released. In every region and by every metric.
The xbox one was considered a disaster so for the Series Consoles to be trailing behind that by 13% is pretty darn bad, especially considering the budget price of the Series S you would think they would be doing much better. It now makes more sense why Microsoft are bringing their exclusives over to Playstation. The days of it being just Playstation and Nintendo seem to be on the Horizon again, unless someone new enters the market like Google or Apple.
Both companies are reaping what they have sown.
Would be better for all 3 consoles were doing very well for us gamers.
As it makes each of them perform better both for games releasing wise and customer satisfaction.
Would also help with prices as well coming down.
Domination by one is not great.
Xbox haven't cared about hardware for many, many years. I'm fairly sure Microsoft are going to outsource Xbox hardware next gen to other manufacturers in the same way that Windows laptops/PCs are made.
Microsoft will continue selling software to anyone who will buy it and make billions from PlayStation gamers.
I really don't understand how any PlayStation fans consider selling more hardware a success in this day and age.
Where are all my Dell fans at??? HP for the win!!! Nobody does this with PCs and it's mental that console wars are still going strong years after I left the playground.
@UltimateOtaku91 The XBOX One being a disaster is an unfair reputation tbh. It's launch was a disaster, but Microsoft to their credit rolled back the most controversial changes almost immediately which placated a lot of people. And when combined with backwards compatibility to the XBOX 360 (easily the most popular XBOX to date) and the fact that the paid for XBOX Live was just frankly superior to the free PSN that was getting hacked every week, the XBOX One gained back a lot of support as time went on.
I will for sure sell my Digital PS5 for the PS5 Pro. I just wish i like the controller more and i would just use PS5 as my main console. Well and I’d like to see them use Dolby vision. Diablo 4 on Series X with Dolby vision looks so much better than the PS5. Yes i have both. Overall good sales from PS hardware and that don’t surprise me but they will need to get that 4% profit margin up to really please the investors. Hardware sales won’t work on investors anymore, they want to see the cash. Imagine if Sony could hit a cash cow like Fortnite or Minecraft. I think they are going to try. Maybe Concord is going to be a great live service game. Time will tell.
If PS5 Pro is launching this year, there should be at least one big game to launch alongside it, whether it be first, second or third party. That could provide a big boost to console sales momentum if done correctly. Hopefully, PS has something up their sleeve.
@IamJT switch isn’t a console , it’s a handheld
@nomither6 are we still having this debate?
@__jamiie gaming PCs don’t even use dell or HP 😂😂
@Haruki_NLI Yes, it’s clearly a handheld & factually .
@Haruki_NLI lol it’s a console. It docks and plays on the tv, pedantic arguments aside, it’s a console.
@nomither6 “ackchually”
@nomither6 Technically it's both. Hence the name "Switch"
@UltimateOtaku91 Who knows what will happen. I don't even think that Microsoft will stop selling Xboxes.
We all remember Google tried with the Stadia, and it failed to really get anywhere, being a steaming-only device and subscription service.
Apple only tried once in the 90s with the Pippin. But it was too overpriced and didn't have enough games to really get any support from it. But that was a different era of Apple, anyways, they even got a PS1 emulator running on a Mac.
I doubt Amazon is interested in consoles.
Sega is still just being a game developer now with no plans to return to consoles after the Dreamcast bombed in sales (although it would be cool to see, they definitely have good IPs now if they even were considering to re-enter consoles).
And then there's Microsoft, kind of struggling trying to handle what is realistically five companies (ZeniMax, Microsoft Game Studios, Activision, Blizzard, King) at once under one said brand, correct?
Is there any room for a third company in the console market now if that happens?
I feel as if it's now too expensive for any new company to even do that now, it would've been possible during the fifth or sixth generations to enter the market, hence Xbox.
@nomither6 A handheld what? That's right, a handheld console.
@RainbowGazelle ok, just like the DS/PSP/Gameboy are all handheld consoles , the switch is in the same bracket with those . it’s not on the level of home consoles, and doesn’t even compare .
@Tchunga It’s essentially a handheld that can be connected to a TV and can be played like a console , but it’s still a handheld
@nomither6 surely it’s a handheld console?
Just like the steamdeck a handheld PC right?
@__jamiie if Microsoft sold more Xboxes I guarantee you that the Gamepass subscriber number would go up… and what do Microsoft want more than anything else? For the Gamepass subscriber number to go up.
Tell me again how Xbox selling Sega level console numbers last quarter isn’t hurting them 🥸
@IamJT I'm not entirely convinced Switch 2 is going to sell as well as its predecessor. The Switch has been so good, and so affordable, that convincing a significant portion of its user base to move on to the next one might be surprisingly difficult.
It's a possibility, but not a given. I personally think a lot of the more casual players might just hold on to their Switch 1.
As a PS5 owner for almost 2 years now I’m disappointed with my purchase. There are games… just not many I want to play. To me Playstation has gone too heavy for the 18-30 metric with a lot of deep narrative lead games and sandbox games, but they’ve neglected the casual gamer, the family gamer, the party gamer and fans of weird styles of games. I suspect this is the large majority of groups of people who haven’t bought a PS5 yet. This applies to XBox even more, and shows why Nintendo have cornered those markets.
Hopefully they can offer something for those customers with the upcoming State Of Play.
Not to burst Sony's bubble, but the Switch 2 is coming.
@nomither6 Exactly. Doesn't compare in what, though? Power? Obviously. I thought the conversation was about sales?
@colonelkilgore Microsoft will continue to make billions in software. PlayStation owners are now going to make up a huge part of that.
I don't understand why care about consoles under a TV?
@__jamiie - "I really don't understand how any PlayStation fans consider selling more hardware a success in this day and age."
Probably because it prevents the death of the console. Xbox is all the proof you need of that.
Let's say they licence the Xbox name to PC manufacturers like you're suggesting but they'll obviously still just be PC's with an Xbox name slapped on. No more subsidising and Steam will just be the de facto storefront like on PC and Publishers will no longer need to make an Xbox version of their games, I mean why would they when they'll just be PC's.
I mean how crazy do you have to be to not realise Xbox consoles are actually just completely dead at that point lmao.
Good news for Sony i guess.
I'm saving my money to get a PS5 slim. But i feel like maybe i just stick with PS4 for another year or two because right now i played SF 6 mostly while slowly finishing one or two games from my 100+ backlog.
@RainbowGazelle not even just power , just in general . a switch could never be a substitute for a console unless someone’s just 100% a die hard nintendo fan only . it’s a substitute for handheld though which is why they sadly killed off the DS line
also the article is about sales , not this conversation though
@Ainu20 Hmmm similar to the ps4 to ps5 generation? I think maybe that could slow sales for a little while, but I think by year two it will be flying off the shelves. You never know though. I do think Nintendo will release a lot of games only playable on Switch 2 which will really help push sales.
@MrMagic How crazy do I have to be??? 🤣
Games are heading exactly where music and films went. Streaming and/or downloading.
I have said, many times before, that hardware will be irrelevant when apps/subscriptions are the norm.
Why buy a game when you can stream it? I'm not saying I like that future but it's already happening.
Why buy a £600 console if you can download an app to give you the same games.
PlayStation will only be an app in the future. Xbox will be an app. Capcom will be an app. You'll be able to subscribe and play the games you want to play on a fairly standard hard drive.
And with Microsoft buying up the most profitable games on the planet, they will beat Sony. The Xbox brand will mean every game and studio they own rather than a box under your TV.
Nintendo on the other hand may continue doing things their own way.
@nomither6 I mean a lot of nintendo only players did substitute their previous nintendo console for the current nintendo console... the switch. "Although it is a hybrid console, Nintendo classifies it as 'a home console that you can take with you on the go.'"
@__jamiie Yep crazy. Looking ahead and theorising 10 to 15 years from now just to ignore the fact the Xbox console is already cooked in the here and now. 🤣 Good one though. 👍
And FYI Xbox is essentially already an app on PC and nobody wants it lol.
@nomither6 Yes, and when its connected to a TV its functionally no different from a console. Which is why I said that it's both. If it couldn't be removed from the dock then it would just be a console, but if it couldn't be docked then it would be a normal handheld. But its a combination of the two, its really not that difficult to understand
@IamJT Probably right and I may be one of those sales but have to see the launch games first. Seems to me like Nintendo does have a habit of hit and miss almost every other generation. So, I'll be on the sidelines until I see a must play game or two.
Despite any sales numbers I do feel like this generation of consoles was slightly cursed. Switch had already been fully established years prior to the pandemic.
@The_Wailing_Doom Don't you mean just Xbox? Unless you mean Playstation and Xbox, which would make even less sense.
@tselliot Yea the pandemic trashed the workflow. Seems like it added about two years of dev time across the board.
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Both companies. PlayStation is successful because they have been giving gaming fans great games since day one with the first PlayStation. Xbox is not successful because they've been doing the opposite for far too long.
Both companies have sown those seeds and are reaping the benefits or consequences.
@IamJT so is the switch lite a home console even though it’s the exact same thing just without a dock ? lol , i gotta agree to disagree about the switch . nintendo is wrong and they (and also anyone) can say anything that they want when it comes to marketing something , doesn’t make it a fact though .
@Tchunga you can virtually connect anything to a TV; an ipad, iphone, PC, laptop, USB streaming etc can all connect to a TV and play games but they’re not consoles . the switch is a glorified handheld , look no further than the horrendous third party games that attempt to run on it
@__jamiie There's no need to cry, it's not that deep and maybe don't comment if you don't like getting replies.
@MrMagic Go to bed babe.
@nomither6 It doesn't need to be a substitute for a console, because it is a console. A handheld one, granted. And you're right, without my PS4 I wouldn't enjoy gaming as much on just the Switch. Shame about the current boxes from Sony and Microsoft though.
@RainbowGazelle i agree this generation blows in my opinion. 7th generation was still the best console generation ever , and i actually liked the wii (an actual console) and loved the DS lite ( a legendary handheld) 😁 .
shame the switch replaced it though, hopefully nintendo starts making consoles again while they keep their handheld as well
@nomither6 Third party games have been horrendous on Nintendo home consoles for the last 3 generations lmao. If thats your angle then its not a very good one. The last time Nintendo was on par with its competitors in terms of power was with the Gamecube. Are you gonna tell me the Wii and the Wii U aren't consoles as well?
@Tchunga wii u third parties were actually good , and the wii was a gamecube , what’s the switch excuse? it’s a handheld
It's truly mind-boggling to me that PS5 is selling well. I'm guessing it's almost purely on trust earned from consumers from PS1-PS4. But PS5 has been a travesty of a system. The game output is nothing compared to previous Sony systems. The hardware is incredible but IMO, there still isn't a single must-have exclusive game.
@Pistolega that’s cool. the discussion was about the switch being a handheld , not how good/bad its hardware is anyway
@Pistolega good for you
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