God of War Ragnarok PC Review Bombed Over PSN Requirement

What’s the point of having to sign in? It has no online component, you can’t buy anything through the PS Store or something like that. Which means the only reason for this is to harvest your data. Review bombing is slightly laughable in any context but I can understand why there’s a backlash.

This "article" is so salty lol. It's being reviewed. Just because it's not the review you want doesn't mean it's being bombed. Personally, I'm not getting any Sony games on pc because of the PSN requirement, but that's a personal choice. I also hear there are technical issues, so it's not all the PSN

Sony wasted no time putting itself in that Ubisoft/Electronic Arts category of companies on PC.

Why not sign up for yet another online gaming account, especially one with a company known for hacks and leaks?
PC gamers are sick of making accounts and I don't blame them.

My heart breaks for PC gamers and things they have to endure. I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy.

Looking at this, I'm not surprised why Nintendo still refused to port their games for PC.

But i'm curious was it Jimbo or Hermen idea to port 1st party games for PC?

Online DRM, PSN data. Um it's like Linux or Mac users and Microsoft accounts, they should they have to for companies pushing account systems?

It's like streaming services you want to sign up to 10+ game launchers or streaming services NO! XD PC gamers have multiple launchers. For business sure for customers who wants like 10 accounts? No one. XD They don't want to have to have a password manager or other things to keep track of unless it's important enough.

What for Sony to stop modding? For them to harvest people's data? I don't disagree with the PC community here. They can be particular but they aren't wrong for their choices when companies want data and to control it/breaches happen like 2011 or others can happen.

Or Sony can bypass this headache entirely by just keeping it's single player games exclusive like that other company does, what was their name Nintendon't 🤔

It's not a review bomb if it's a negative review based on criticism of the game as delivered. Mandatory data harvesting is legitimate serious criticism. Or does everyone forget why the Xbox One got destroyed before it launched?

Off the top of my head companies that make you do this for their games that are not inherently multiplayer are Ubisoft, EA, Sony, Rockstar, and Bethesda. All except Bethesda aren't exactly darlings of consumer confidence. Other companies including MS do require for online focused games.

Ubisoft uses it as DRM and ops out of family sharing. Sony at least doesn't, but that also means the data harvesting is the only purpose. Users criticizing that are genuine criticisms.

It's a stupid complaint but it's also a stupid requirement. They should have seen this coming.

Not trying to justify the PSN requirement since it's stupid but it has been known for a while that it requires PSN + you can only review games you own on Steam.

That means people bought this game even though they could and should have known that it requires PSN just to complain about it

The double standards of PC gamers never cease to amaze me. There's nothing valid or genuine about these so-called "criticisms."

For online games that require access to PSN servers or crossplay co-op games it's justifiable to have log into a PSN account as long as it's clearly stated.

But for purely singel player games it's moronic.

@8bitOG people r buying to give it a bad review than refunding it that's a review bomb

@jrt87 Like Sea Of Thieves?

Reviews are positive: Totally above board.

Reviews are negative: Review bombing.

@jrt87 What about those who don't want to crossplay, they still had to create an account. Point is, I don't remember any tantrums from "affronted PlayStation fanboys".

So the pc version is getting review bombed? How is this relevant to PlayStation gamers? Exactly what are pushsquare trying to achieve by highlighting (gas lighting?) PC gamers woes and anxieties about having to sign into something they already knew was going to be in place? Good lord whatever next?

@PuppetMaster is it because it would be a death sentence for nintendo? the switch would be hurt from both sides 😂

portable = steamdeck
docked = PC

& forget about software and online

@PuppetMaster it was Shawn layden actually.

@LuXifer there is no psn servers needed for online, PSN is just a storefront. when you play online , you connect to the game developers servers. PS plus is literally just a long running scam that’s capitalizing off of peoples complacency with paying to use their own internet

All you need to play online is internet & the games server

The sheer crap people sign up for these days and the permissions we grant social media, and yet this is the line. Mad.

@Intr1n5ic Sea of Thieves is a shared world online server. Like FFXIV, and other MMOs. You have to have an account on the server to log in to be in the game. GoW is not. And yes, HiFi Rush also is not and people haven't been happy with Bethesda doing that stuff either. And EA, Ubisoft have been nemesis of the community forever.

That said, console players SHOULD be upset about these things. But by nature the console audience isn't necessarily technically inclined while the PC audience is much more aware of data rights and privacy issues and therefore much more likely to raise voices over it.

As for PSN security I can only say I've only had a credit card compromised once, and Sony was the culprit.........

Pitiful people. Can’t believe there are so many. Many just buying the game to review bomb it then getting it refunded.

I don’t like the new God of Wars, I tried, but I just find them boring and generic, but I wouldn’t review bomb just because you have to connect to another account, any more than I have when I was made to connect to Ubisoft’s network. These people are just more fanboys who don’t do the same to other companies’ games that require exactly the same thing. If they did I’d respect them a bit more.

Whats more, I hear you don’t even need to connect to PSN to play it. It asks you to, but you can just skip it (I have no direct experience with this, just numerous indirect reports).

If I did get any Sony game on PC however, I wouldn’t even consider not connecting to PSN as I would lose all of the trophy challenges. I also like the fact Sony can boot someone’s account if they find them cheating in a single game, which would theoretically make any cross play much more console like rather than having to endure all of the PC cheaters…maybe that’s another reason these sad people review bomb thinking about it.

Thank god PC owners only probably have -

MS, steam, epic, battle net, Bethesda, SE, Ubisoft, EA, take2(r*) plus streaming subs, phone contracts.

But god forbid if Sony asks them to sign up, even says it before purchase.

This isn't being reviewed "bombed" as you put it. The consumer, who companies owe their existence to, are strongly sending a message that we don't want to be forced to sign up for another account. Game companies need to understand that customers are King.

What pc gamers complaining from their parents basement again? Im shocked

@NEStalgia

Sea of Thieves is a shared world online server. Like FFXIV, and other MMOs. You have to have an account on the server to log in to be in the game.

I understand, but you can disable crossplay in SoT and only play with people from the PlayStation network, so why is a MS account required. I don't actually mind this though, I was simply replying to someone who said imagine if Microsoft did this to one of their ported games and how PS fans would react. Well, they did, and there was absolutely no reaction.

I'm against what's happening here because I think you're a clown if you buy a game that specifically outlines its requirements beforehand, for the sole purpose of leaving a negative review and then refunding. These same people who care about data privacy probably rush to Twitter straight after to tell everyone what they did.

Isn’t this obviously just to pad Sony’s PSN monthly average user numbers and not something as nefarious as harvesting user data?

@Buckster666 so throwing a tantrum until they get their own way then

What a pain in the arse. You may never have had a playstation, why make an account for it when you bought on Steam. But then, ubisoft, ea, rockstar and on. Big brother demands his pound.

@Buckster666 That's what they think they're doing, and they're attempting it by review-bombing, yes.

In reality all they're doing is being immature and showing their bias.

@nomither6
You're probably right, I'm not versed in the infrastructure of multiplayer and crossplay when it comes to servers.

But when it comes to public perception, people are more accepting to "pay-the-login-fee" for online games.

It seems like most publishers are aggressively chasing sign-ups. It comes of as greedy and anti consumer. EA, Ubislop, Xbox, Sony etc not only wants top dollars for their games but also our data.

There's no doubt that there's turmoil in the gaming industry. I guess they all want to future proof themselves in case the industry pivots to the subscription model that they all seem to be salivating over.

All guesses and opinions of course, but it'll be interesting to see how thing will turn out. In either case I have a backlog and retro games to last me a decade if things turn to *****. 🎮

tbh much of society has feely been giving their underwear drawer to google, Meta and Microsoft for the last 20 years. The horse has bolted. If people dont think goods and services are subsidised by the sale of your data by now then it's them that need to wake up not the providers.

No one is suggesting the obvious reason Sony would do this: it wants to know whether the people buying its games on PC are customers who have a PlayStation already, or whether those PC players eventually buy a PlayStation console (e.g. to play the next instalment in a series).

If I don't sign up to my local supermarkets savers club they can't collect my data directly, but for that I don't get bananas with a 40% discount, and that's okay, because I can still shop there!
PSN accounts should enable perks like trophies and cross saves, but shouldn't be a gatekeeper to who gets to play.

Just sucks that another first party studio has to suffer due to Sony's poor decision making and the whims of the internet mob that always needs something to be outraged over in a disproportionate manner.

These must be the same people who give their phone number to play Overwatch 2

@LifeGirl

"Reviews are positive: Totally above board.

Reviews are negative: Review bombing."

As usual, not that simple.
Giving such a celebrated game by critics and fans alike a 10/9/8/7 out of 10 makes sense. Giving it 1/10 does not and it is most certainly review bombing. You're not judging a game on its merits. You just want to send a message by giving it the lowest score possible to hurt its average.

@StrickenBiged good point. I never thought about that.

Do you need a phone number now or something? if anything that required me to create account in past I'd just use tempmail email address and fake details yeah its inconvenience but takes like 2 mins.

Sony has lost all the goodwill from the players and gaming community and from now on they have an uphill battle to prove that they make good games and a good ecosystem to invest.It's very easy to hate on sony nowdays and they are to blame. They are becoming a gaming public enemy.

Already bought the game digitally on ps5 but I also play on pc/steam, there are a lot of games on steam, most didn't make me sign to another service, I rather not play the games/refund the games and play other games rather than login to another service.

@Buckster666 "Game companies need to understand that customers are King"

People make that mistake all the time and we end up with games, movies, tv shows that are terrible, because the creators are not free to see their vision through; they're forced to adjust to the demands of certain people. Which is why in TV shows, for example, popular characters come back from the dead and the show jumps the shark.

Hence the full expression isn't "the customer is always right", but "The customer is always right, in matters of taste".

While it should not even be a requirement, as I understand it's also blown out of proportion in some countries, requesting an ID, or a mug picture etc...
Not to mention preventing the game from being bought digitally in countries without PSN service...
It's stupidly implemented!

For myself it's no biggie, I have 3 PSN accounts made over the years on my PS consoles, one in US, one in UK and one in my own European country, to benefit from multiple offers and currency differences (especially euro->$$ ).
I can use the US account to log in on Steam when required, without any problems or unusual requests ( works flawlessly even in God of War Ragnarok )

EDIT: btw, the PC port of GoW Ragnarok is top notch! Played for 6-7 hours and encountered no bugs or other issues, framerate is perfectly stable, 4k@60fps everything on Ultra, even without DLSS on my RTX 3090 SuprimX. Graphics are sharp and everything runs smooth. Very well executed by SMS and Jetpack Interactive, bravo!

No sympathy. Sony literally states "a PlayStation network account required", so if any consumer reads that, chooses to disregard it, and buys God of War anyway, that's on you! Just make a PSN account, Jesus. You'll live.

Winging entitled PC gamers again.

And the PC 'master race' babies are at it again. Boohoo we have to take a few additional seconds to sign into another service.

@Retron This is a poor and weak arugment. The PSN hack happened well over a decade ago. You make accounts on other sites that get hacked daily.

Heck, you even made an account for this site and the world didnt end. Why did you not complain about that?

The bandwagon hopping is real and quite amusing. Plus, it's likely you already have a PSN account anyway if you're browsing this site.

The no lifers strike again

@Shinnok789 The ID section is not on Sony though, that is the local laws of the country.

Once they log into a PSN account PC to play this game, are users able to unlock PlayStation trophies on their PSN account? Or are the trophies/achievements apart of steam? Or both

I mean, I would review bomb this game for its awful pacing and repetitive gameplay, but that's just me.

Multiplayer should have PSN requirement to allow Sony to suspend and ban cheats and toxic players, single player games should not.

That said, i played it where it should have stayed... on PS5.

They're crying about PSN again? I guess this is going to happen every time Sony port something over. Hopefully they stop doing it then. Not like the game is selling amazing anyway. Just focus on your own console Sony!

I can understand it being annoying... But jeez...

A PSN account isn’t required to play the single player component of Ghost of Tsushima, so why is it necessary for Ragnarok? Sony only have themselves to blame if they’re not consistent with implementing their own policies.

@Intr1n5ic It's not just crossplay though, SoT is still on the same world servers at MS, just filtered for PS only if so inclined. I totally understand accounts for shared world games. Helldivers not so much because it's just match making, not a world server. And obviously not single player games. There's a big difference there.

I get your point about refunding just to post the review,I wouldn't do that either, but I also get it. It's a form of protest. Like sit down strikes and burning draft cards, civil disobedience is the only way the masses can get messages to the powers that rule over them in ways that make them have to react. The alternative is doing nothing, bending over and accepting the status quo. It may not work or it may, but if a plurality decides the line can be drawn here while Sony is fresh in the pool they may force change. and if they can force Sony to change that puts blood in the water to push ea, Ubisoft and others after. I get your point. But if people didn't push to change things for the better, we'd still be living in fiefdoms. Sadly people stopped for too long and were close to corporate fiefdoms already.

Console customers like steam customers already have an account for the drm of their choice. Unless it's a server login for a shared world, console customers should also be up in arms about secondary accounts in games. It's less common on console but it's there too and should not be.

So PC players are ok with Microsoft sign up, EA sign up, Rock star. The double standards here are wild. also remember when they were crying about this for Hell divers and steam charts literally showed it changed nothing....

@Buckster666 a King will take the high road and vote with his wallet, I'm not sure I would call a King someone who go out of their way to harm those who don't bend to their will... that sounds more like "I'm not getting what I want, so I throw a tantrum" aka Karen ^_^

PC cry baby race at it again.

I have to say it is a weird decision from Sony, theyre really pushing their luck these days.

Idk if any of us would like having to create a microsoft account to play Hi-Fi Rush.

@Oram77 Theyre not. I still remember people hating on mandatory microsoft account or Origin. In recent memory its the fail of Alan Wake 2 due to being on Epic.

@species pc players do have an MS account and many many more.

I don't play any game that requires me to be online or games with excessive micro-transactions. I don't then go and review the game. Because that would be asinine and my review would be worthless.
I don't care about the game's scores or the success of Ragnarok. It's just the cognitive dissonance here is hilarious. I wonder if the people saying this doesn't qualify as "bombing" even care if the reviewer has played a game. I bet a good amount of them believe a review is pointless unless the game is beaten by the writer.

@species You have to make an mircosoft account to play Minecraft and sea of theives, and you know what we do? We just make an account and get on with it.

In my opinion it is an awful development, that You have to sign into what ever online account to play single player games or e.g. that You cannot play non-online content in GT7 if You are offline.

But, so is (on PC) that I cannot install windows without having to sign into the microsoft network, that every piece of software is now full of telemetry including windows.

Anyway it is weird that people happily share all their data with valve, microsoft, ubi, ea, (and likely google, meta, discord) etc. but then make a lot of fuss about a psn account.

@TrickyDicky99 I don’t see how this gets them in the ecosystem though. You still need to buy a console for you to be spending money in Sony’s store or engaging with other ways that they make their money, like selling peripherals or bloody disc drives. Until there’s a way to buy PC games from Sony direct, there’s not exactly an ecosystem argument to be made.

The master race really need to have a quite word with themselves 😂🙈

No one takes metacritic user scores seriously.

These Pc losers really don't deserve playstation games, hopefully Sony wakes up and stops porting them.

What a bunch of crybabies.

Anybody unaware of the psn requirement by now, It's completely their own fault, anybody aware and still purchasing it and then complaining about it doesn't have a leg to stand on, you don't have to buy it. Sony has every right to make psn sign in a requirement, it's their product. Don't like it, don't buy it, stop with the petty review bombing, that should be reserves for actual unknown issues with the game not something you're entirely aware before purchase but then still choose to purchase.

Either Sony has to make PSN available, worldwide, or remove it on PC.

And people calling the PC gamers crybabies?
Who were the crybabies, when Sony started to release games on PC? 😂

There are crybabies and a**holes in both fronts.

so when are the review bombers going to get there steam accounts banned ?

Bollocks you want first party PS games on your platform you can make compromises you're lucky you're getting them in the first place

Do people here, understand that PSN isn't available worldwide?

@Steel76 Can they create an account for a different country or do they need VPN? Because I hear people having multiple accounts.

@Steel76 did the PS "crybabies" review bomb the PC versions of ps games?

@Steel76 I don't think anyone here is saying that PSN is a good or necessary service. It's like going on Yelp and saying "I didn't eat the pork chop because meat is murder, but it's terrible." It's like...this ain't the place for your cause. I keep hearing that games are not the place for a dev's "activism" when there might be a lady in a game. That's right! Metacritic and Steam are the place for activism!

If the goal of these PC ports was to try and convert PC players into PS5 owners it's conclusively proven to be a failure. These PC players refuse to create a free PSN account, why would they ever entertain the idea of buying a platform that requires one at a system level?

You can bet from now on every Sony game released on PC will be review bombed to hell and PC gamers will relish every moment of it until Sony caves into their demands.

This entire initiative has alienated the most loyal console supporters who now feel like second class citizens on their own platform and are stuck with objectively more expensive, inferior versions of games restricted by online paywalls.

@MisterNintendo

Exactly.

Personally, I hope that companies just stop listening, and everyone makes an account that you have to sign into, just so that those people can be so mad that they have to quit gaming entirely. I want them out of here.

Folks suggesting PC owners are lucky to be graced with PS games.

And they think they are the master race?
😶

I don't think it is data harvesting alone, @NEStalgia. I think Sony also see this as a way to say to their share holders 'Look at how many more people joining PSN? Isn't it growing well!', when we all know that this is simply an artificial way of growing the Service, because given the choice, PC gamers wouldn't sign up. They might join, but that's as far as their involvement will go..

I have seen a screenshot which is the task manger on windows with God of War running with the PSN requirements and the amount of processes it does is insane, I think it runs about 15 instances all at the same time and it uses about 20% of ram or more just for PSN only.

If I had a high tier potato PC I would be annoyed 😂

most games install their own launchers these days anyway, it's not just Sony. it's a problem on PC, one of the reasons why I prefer console

No more single player exclusives on pc, problem solved.

@NEStalgia so why did they buy the game knowing they would've needed a psn account ? Just to complain?

The whole situation of forced PSN account requirement for PC ports this year does make me wonder if Sony's going to delist the current PC ports of HZD/Days Gone/GoW 2018 when remasters appear.

PC players are a bunch of drama queens and always have been. There's a thread on the Steam community forum or whatever the F it is called where they were all trying to convince people to buy the game just to review bomb it for the PSN requirement.

Part of the reason why Ragnarok's player count is also lower is because of FF16. Some of the people who would've bought Ragnarok are playing FF16 at the moment.

@truerbluer "If the goal of these PC ports was to try and convert PC players into PS5 owners it's conclusively proven to be a failure"

Has it, though? Did 100% of the people who bought it leave a negative review?

@MrMagic the fact that it's been pirated to death already certainly doesn't help either.

@Khayl Adam there is a mod that removes the psn login wccftech has the mods information

@naruball True but if Sony puts Denuvo in it'll just give them something else to cry about.

These PC gamers are truly pathetic, they have no problem doing this for other games yet as always they seem to have an issue with Sony. I would just stop the PC ports and put that money and effort into other areas of playstation.

@naruball My point is this PC initiative hasn't convinced anyone that was on the fence to get a PS5. Those who haven't left a negative review are more than happy that Sony is spoon-feeding them all their exclusives and continue to have no reason to get a PS5 because they get to play these games on PC on their own terms. And those who have left negative reviews due to PSN accounts obviously were never going to get a PS5 in the first place.

Wow.

Reading through these comments is like having a cross-section of the most toxic examples of why PC gamers can’t stand stereotypical console gamers and vice versa.

munches popcorn and enjoys the show

That said, I think it should be optional. I see no reason to lock a single player campaign behind that requirement. I know, I’m being controversial and unreasonable!

@Frmknst tell that to all the people who are unable to create a PSN account.

@naruball I don't know what the reviews are. I have not looked them up did you?

I checked it for you 95% is the PSN account requirement.

As a long-time member of the PC community, I apologize for our excessive whininess. I am embarrassed.

What embarrassing bunch of man-children. Surely there's more important things to worry about in the world.

If Sony wants to play stupid games, they will surely get stupid prizes.

@jrt87 have to make one for sea of theives and grounded. And couldn't care less, it's just an account. If it was SP, also wouldn't care.

@truerbluer to convert PC players to PS5 was never the intention. Sony have fully accepted that PC players will stay on PC and they'd rather make a bit of money off them, and probably sell a few dualsense as well. That, and it gives the console version a boost as it effectively has a second release and gets people talking about it again.

@Oram77 Ye because you could, imagine buying a single player game that requires an account on a service that isnt available in your country.

I mean i get it, console owners hate PC players, but cmon, be reasonable.

@The_Wailing_Doom Kane lives!

Whats with all the Forced comments? No one is being forced to buy the game at all. Then going as far to buy the game and review bomb it then refund it for some kind of revenge is so wrong. Grow up and make your choices like an adult. I turn down digital only games they are games I do not buy or care for, without caring or crying involved.

@SlipperyFish https://x.com/tomwarren/status/1795966798942158935

In Hermen Hulst's own words:

"We have high hopes that we're actually able to bring new players into PlayStation at large but into PlayStation platforms specifically".

Sounds like a severe case of "Its only a problem when Sony does it".
Besides, if that is really a problem for some people why not wait for the GoG version then? You already waited 18 months for a port.

They never learn do they. But in all seriousness why even do this? people hate having to sign up for things they don’t want, and it’s not like the people who sign up are going to engage much with what Sony do so it serves no marketing purpose. So just don’t do it.

@Yousef- thanks for that. I wasn't sure. So, in other words, no one is stopping them from making a psn account and playing the game.

@Flaming_Kaiser cheers. Makes perfect sense.

@truerbluer "My point is this PC initiative hasn't convinced anyone that was on the fence to get a PS5."

Again, we don't know that.

@MrMagic exactly. Damned if they do, damned if they don't.

@naruball well, the console sales numbers so far tell us that not only this didn't happen but they didn't even manage to convert ps4 players to ps5.

@truerbluer well I stand corrected. Seems a strange business strategy, I always thought it was about having two release cycles. Anyway, yeah, I don't think that's working out for them.

@zebric21 not a single one?

@naruball Maybe a few,maybe a million, so what? Their product failed to surprass the previous one with less and less reasons for the consumer to stick with them.

@species you say be reasonable, so what about PC players given the game a bad review purely for the need to have a PSN, not about the actual gameplay or story. that to me is more unreasonable. call me a pony or whatever, I just call it how I see it.

@PsBoxSwitchOwner you forgot the GoG account

@zebric21 I mean do you really expect a console that cost £150 more at launch, and £289 more now, than it's predecessor did, while the competition shot itself in the foot repeatedly, to really sell as fast?

@SlipperyFish That was their plan though and they failed.

@zebric21 except they haven't? Just because they haven't replicated the enormous success of the PS4 doesn't mean they've failed. They wouldn't be so cocky if they did.

@NEStalgia data harvesting, especially right now, isn’t just valid criticism it’s the best valid criticism.

reading some youtube comments a lot of negativity is about the fact the sweet baby inc also had a hand in the game..

@johnedwin You mean just like Deadlock? But they are suddenly fine with it because Valve made it.

@MrMagic a lot of comments object to angraboda if you know what i mean..

@johnedwin there’s your problem. You are reading YouTube comments

PC players really do choose some stupid things to get irritated about. Half the reviews on Steam are just people complaining about stuff which has no relation to the game or how "woke" it is.

Sony is wasting its resources for that ungrafeful and console devaluing efforts.

Theres no way the PC ports are profitable anyways.

Fukk them PC gamers.
If they want games, they can ask Valve to make it for em.
Sony owns em nothing.

@johnedwin Yep, I'm not surprised and the fact they choose to just ignore Sweet Baby's involvement in Deadlock because it was made by Valve just further proves they are also bunch of petty hypocrites.

@JAMes-BroWWWn These ports barely seem to cracking a millions units each time which for "The biggest platform and marketplace" is an absolute joke they definitely are not worth it

Let's be honest, this is just console wars garbage isn't it? Some people just don't want to create accounts with rival companies.

How many of these people use Battle.net?

Someone made a mod to bypass the PSN requirement so everything should be okay now, right?

@PsBoxSwitchOwner That's the sad part, it's only to sign up. Yet those PC gamers have like 5 other launchers on their systems and their respective accounts.

Also, if you're scared of your data being harvested, just use a dummy account with fake infos. People have such stupid arguments.

The PC playerbase is by far too toxic, I don't want to associate with those filths.

This game is mediocre at best. A mixed review score is fair.

I hope Sony doesn't backtrack on this. PC gamers begged for years to have PS games on PC and when they finally get them they b*tch and moan about needing an account when they literally need one for every other provider of game publishers too. PC gamers need to learn they can't get their own way by throwing tantrums like children and they need to be shown that review bombing is a childish thing and isn't going to work. If they want PlayStation games liked they've supposedly appeared desperate for over the years then put up with it or get nothing. It's just a sign up, it's not a big deal. And they're basing their concerns over a hack that happened 15 years ago. There are millions of PSN users and we're all fine. Stop being so childish and entitled. Sony should stick to their guns on this since it was declared in advance this time a PSN account would be needed before they bought the game.

@Zeldorf it is one of the great games of all time..

@nessisonett I guess that's for PSN achievements and maybe save game sync

To all the people thinking that PSN sign in is a prerequisite for data harvesting: time to wake up and face reality. Any game if it wishes so will phone home with any amount of information it can lift from your PC. And many been doing that for years. They don't need any kind of sign-in.

@Northern_munkey I guess the relevance here is that maybe Sony should stop waisting their resources on trying to service people who put protesting about games above games themselves.

Maybe those money will better serve when invested into their studios?

@species It might not be a weird decision though. How many people do you think decided to skip the game they were interested in because it required them to log in? I bet it's negligible.

As long as there are enough players who buy games from Sony, the porting will continue

They are only doing this to boost PSN subs to shareholders that's it, Helldivers 2 was supposed to have it but they failed to disclose that under the steam page and look what happened there

@Fiendish-Beaver Very possible, but I'm not sure sub numbers will impress shareholders without a matching boost to subscription revenue, which this does not generate. If they're doing it for that, it's a very shallow and useless benefit to them, their share holders will not be impressed by numbers that don't include dollar signs.

@Shalooda I agree it's a dubious behavior, however, it's also the best option and largest megaphone to stage a meaningful "civil disobedience" style protest in a digital format. If they were not doing this and influencing the game's rating, nobody would even be talking about the message they're sending. So I'd say it's effective and working, even if I don't think I'd do that, personally.

Though Sony's long term "fix" will likely be stop supporting other storefront and try to sell through only their own, and disable reviews. Taking their ball and going home then wondering why sales suck.

PC gamers don't deserve the PlayStation Games.

FFS!! It's not review bombing! It's actual critical feedback from customers.

This is odd... I watched a preview video claiming the PSN login was going to be optional... or at least was optional during the review process... did they make it mandatory after reviews landed?

I might have to rewatch some of those videos to see if I misheard...

@CrashBandicoat but there’s plenty of spicy games on steam that got bad reviews too & there’s no sign up required

Kind of childish including that in a game review. If you don't like the idea, don't support the game. A review should be solely on the game itself. Very misleading and selfish.

@CrashBandicoat average is not 1/10.

@Zeldorf it's not. Give it an average score is fair. Giving it 1/10 to reduce the average is not.

GoW Ragnarok is not a very good game, that’s a fact. The selling point was the very good graphics and the smooth gameplay. But if it is not optimized for PC and the game doesn’t run fine, I understand that people don’t see the point of playing it.

Well it's a single player game why is a psn account required? Also the game should be getting lambasted for only having one death animation like it's predecessor, don't care what anyone says the dude literally just falls flat on his back unnaturally it's trash 100% that wasn't motion captured because it doesn't even look natural it's like someone ran it through an ai program, how anyone could praise these new god of wars when it has such an awful animation?

@B0udoir only steam and pc fanboys are triggered

@8bitOG Steam players review bomb games all the time and most of the time for frivolous reasons. Theyre the most sensitive bunch of gamers. It's naive to blindly insult the reviewer here without checking first.

@JohntheRaptor honestly, looking at both steam forums and playstation forums there's one thing in common: complaints. Although, steam complaints regarding Sony has a legitimate stance regarding both access and privacy. There's no reason for a single player game to require you to be online so that they can harvest data for a game you're borrowing. How good do you feel about your purchase when the PSN is down and you can't play the game? What kind of information are they collecting that they'd rather have fewer worldwide sales then not have you part of their ecosystem? Whereas all the complaints I see here are a) people upset that other gamers outside of the ps ecosystem have access to titles they themselves love, and b) they're upset that pc players are largely saying they don't want to follow the same rules.

At the end of the day, the bad reviews are a small portion of the total sales. I'm sure that the more concerning number for Sony is the drop in sales from people like me who outright refused to give them money