Indiana Jones PS5 'By Far' Machine Games' Biggest Undertaking

Would really like to play this but....in a third person perspective.

this is not an uncharted game this is very much like the chronicles of Riddick games like escape from butcher bay

4 hours of cutscenes is hardly a selling point for a video game to be honest.

They gave it to an FPS studio and expected something good? Talk about ruining the franchise. They had several series to use as a blueprint including an Xbox game and they still did it in first person. They clearly have no clue how to make anything else. But all the fanboys will defend this non cinematic game.

I always hate when they advertise size as a selling point. Big doesn't always mean good. If they don't know what to do with it, the girth of a package will get you nowhere.

This remains a highly anticipated game. But I can't imagine it having the legs to entertain for more than 12 hours.

@Lavishturtle I don't really know what everyone's problem with it being first person is. Just because Uncharted is Indiana Jones, that doesn't mean Indiana Jones has to be Uncharted. "Ruining the franchise" and "non-cinematic" seem both unjustified and overblown statements to make.

The most appropriate perspective depends most on the gameplay they've developed. Given that they are an FPS studio, I'm sure it feels like a proper FPS game. I didn't hear people complaining about RoboCop being first person. So why should this be any different?

@Lavishturtle Careful i got skinned alive for saying this the other day on here. Agreed though the only reason this is 1st person is because the Devs can't make anything else.

So many people complaining before the game even launches… what else is new? It they had decided to go with a TPP I’m sure those same guys would be like: oh, another Uncharted/Tomb Raider clone. You can’t win. I’m a huge Indy fan so I will play it at launch on xCloud, but I’m not sure I will finish Stalker 2 in time.

I have enjoyed most of their Wolfenstein games. So I have a little faith in them. Not really a fan of the 4 hours of cutscenes, I don't enjoy Kojima games because of this(they are normally 20 hours of cutscenes though.)

Personally (don't hate dislike me for this) - I get very nervous when I hear "it's their biggest project YET!"... not because I think it will be crap, but I wonder who is asking for a longer Indiana Jones? I think this sort of game is best done short-sharp-and-shiny.... preferably 12-15 hours (IMHO)... so hopefully it's not just bloated with content.

Edit - and does anyone else hate it when a game goes into an unexpected cut-scene that just goes on and on... and there's no way to pause/save/restore to a point before the cutscene?

I hope it is big in replayability and good content not collectibles and fluff. I like Machine Games and first person is an interesting choice while avoiding the inevitable comparison tps would've brought towards the fantastic Uncharted games and highly acclaimed Tomb Raider games.

The issue is I feel First person games are usually better with shorter lengths for example Doom 2016 and Eternal were too long where repetition did set in for me. Also I'm a little worried that everything I've seen has been quite brown/sandy. Hope for some globetrotting scenery changes.

@RoomWithaMoose commented - then saw your comment... totally agree. The times have changed - we're mostly time-poor (or at least time-poor as well as being bank-account-poor). Let's aim for smaller more focused games.

@Elitepatriot and the prize for risk-taking goes to you... but seriously, I totally agree. I'm sure that you'll get a lot of hate for that comment however.

To show solidarity - IMO Kojima's a hack film-maker who could make really good games... unfortunately, he puts too much stock in his film-making (and not enough time into hiring a good editor). There really needs to be less focus on overly ambitious cut-scenes... especially where you can't save before and/or during!

The question is are those 4 hours of cutscenes really good?

I don't mind long cutscenes like in MGS, Xenosaga, KH, Death Stranding, or Yakuza as long as they has cool actions and nice lore / exposition.

Imagine making a tomb raider-esque Indy game but in 1st person. What a disaster.

I would love a first person Indi game focused on platforming, exploration and puzzles. Sadly all the previews showed that it focuses on stealth and human enemies. Oh well, I hope that people will get some enjoyment out of it.

This game is such a dark horse to me, I have no idea what to expect even though I've seen most the promotional material they've released. There's a part of me that feels the first person view is a mistake, but there's nothing I'd love more then to be proven wrong and that they'll suprise us all with a banger game. 🤞

And yeah, I'm very much on team "longer doesn't = better". Quality & depth trumps long & stretched imo. (I could've worded that a bit more fairly, but I'm biased asf. 😁)

For anyone worrying about first person platforming - Mirror's Edge was pretty awesome.

Super super excited for this. Looks to be its own thing which is a great sign. But the PS stans will hate on it regardless. If it was just Uncharted then it would be a clone, but now it’s a bad thing that it’s first person, despite MachineGames proving they can do FPS games really well. I’ve played the Emperor’s Tomb and the Staff of Kings, them copying existing tropey gameplay and sticking Indy in them doesn’t end well.

When I heard/saw that the game was more of an stealth game I instantly lost any appeal to purchase it. Before I said there is something off about this game and now I think this because it was orignally meant to be a VR game.

@Oz_Who_Dat_Dare Thanks. Many games could use less theatrics and more budget pushed to gameplay. I think games would be more entertaining for it as well.

To me, "by far their biggest game" means don't buy it at the start, wait until all the colossal bug fixes have been distributed.

Be interested to see how it turns out though. In the meantime, I have a hankering to play Lego Indiana Jones on the Vita/PSP.

There might have been a time when I questioned this being a first person game, but I remember when Riddick was announced and I wondered why they’d ruin it by making it first person. I couldn’t have been more wrong, Riddick was one of my favorite games that generation and this gives me similar vibes so I’m all for it.
As far as the four hours of cutscenes go, yes that’s a lot, but I rarely see people complain when Kojima released a game and you don’t get to control the character for the first four hours because it’s all one massive cutscene. I’m aware I’m being hyperbolic here, but I’ll never understand why he gets a pass and everyone else gets hate for it. Play the game and judge it or just accept it’s not your cup of tea and move on, but let’s not pretend it’s the worst game ever made before its even been released.

I don't understand people's holdup about the 1st person perspective. Platforming has been done well in 1st person plenty of times. Mirrors Edge, Titanfall, Far Cry, Doom just to name a few all have at least some platforming involved and have all done it very well. Plus Machine Games is already used to that perspective having worked on Wolfenstein previously so I'm legitimately confused why it's such a sticking point for some people.

I think the game looks fantastic so far and I loved the Wolfenstein games so I have faith in Machine Games. Looking forward to it.

To bad! I was really looking forward to playing this game. But first person, no thank you. Why can’t they give people the choice between first and third person? There are plenty of games out there who do.

Who knew being a first person fan was such a sin these days. Third person games also have a place in gaming, but we should just let the devs cook what they're cooking rather than saying 'oh its a dead game, devs don't know what they're doing' - grow up, get educated and make your own freekin game then if it bugs you so much

I dunno, if I wanted several films worth of Indy footage, I'd go watch several Indy films.

I'm playing video_games_for a few reasons. Sitting back to passively observe isn't one of them. You'd think these game companies would understand the appeal of the game part of the equation, but here we are.

I don't care if it's 3rd person first person or 6th person!! Just want it to be a good indy game. Anyone in there 40s will appreciate it, we have been waiting for a good indy game for a while. Kids and the tik nob generation won't get it.

Always remember the VERY FIRST thing they said about this game was that it is made for a “modern gaming audience.”

Considering such an audience simply doesn’t exist you have to assume they have made this game to purposely anger the fan base which seems to be the latest trend in entertainment.

I hope it doesn’t turn out to be yet another progressive virtue signalling waste of time as I am very much looking forward to it but am fully prepared to be disappointed.

I hope it's at least 30 hours, too many games this and last gen only last 15-20 hours

@Danloki it can't be any worse than the last couple of films 😅

I have no problem with it being first or third person as long as it's good , whats the problem with cutscenes , its got a story so how else are they going to tell it ? Surely a person's attention span isn't that poor that they can't wait a couple of minutes.

@lazarus11 that is the problem with the young generation, used to looking at tweets and memes they can't hold more than a sentence or more than a 10 second video together

@Danloki agreed , troy Baker seems to do a good impersonation, i wonder if they approached Harrison ford, would love to know his response if they did 😂😂

@Lavishturtle Are you being serious??? Of course they're doing a first person game. They were chosen to make a first person game.

How many third person, narrative driven, action games from Naughty Dog/Insomniac/Guerrilla do you want???

Machine Games does something different to another Uncharted and people lose their *****.

The same people who ask for different games. ***** off and grow up.

@lazarus11 shame they couldn't get Harrison or at least use AI to generate his voice. He probably said f off lol 😆😆

"First person games suck"

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Half-Life, Fallout, Skyrim, KCD, Cyberpunk 2077 et al 🙄

If it has a better story then the last two movies it will be a win. If the gameplay is good then the camera point of view won't matter.

@DennisReynolds Hideo Kojima enters the chat

There’s people who are put off by this because of it being first person and I am one of those people.

I don’t get why this bothers people. First person isn’t for everyone and personally, if I’m playing as Indiana Jones I’d like to see the character. If this bothers you, why? How does them not liking it affect your life?

The last thing I would want to see. 4 hour cut scenes of an Indiana Jones game that doesn't resemble Harrison Ford.

Reminds me of Chronicles of Riddick, which was a fps and it worked really well.

Potentially a better movie than Dial of Destiny!