Fatal Frame: Maiden of Black Water wasn't anything special back in 2015 on Nintendo Wii U, and it's no better six years later. A sub-standard remaster ports the horror title to PlayStation 5 to conveniently coincide with Halloween, but for as creepy as it can be, it's not a particularly enjoyable game to actually play.
If we were offered the chance to watch a compilation of its haunting cutscenes and skip the gameplay altogether then we'd happily take it because the title simply doesn't feel good to play in 2021. Clunky and overly responsive controls unite with questionable button mapping to make the battle with your PS5 controller just as difficult as the one with the supernatural. There's a very dark and distressing atmosphere to the whole thing, though, which at least complements the story of three different characters up Hikami Mountain.
Camera combat is what the series is known for and it returns here with points scoring and an overall rating at the end of each level. You can emulate the Wii U gamepad to a degree through PS5 gyro controls, which is a welcome inclusion even if we turned the option off pretty much immediately. As you explore the linear landmarks of Hikami Mountain, completing objectives as you go, the three protagonists defend themselves from ghosts by snapping pictures to deal damage. Different types of film rolls have various perks — a shorter cooldown time, for example — and they are what give combat at least a little bit of depth. It's a neat approach to engagements that, even after five main entries, still feels fairly novel.
What really lets the package down is the work put in to claim this is a remaster. Comparing it to the Wii U original, effort appears to have been put into making the title a little brighter, but that's about as far as it goes. It honestly looks like an Instagram filter has been slapped on top of the visuals and the job's considered done. You could maybe say it looks like a late PS3 game. Maybe.
You could do a lot better than Fatal Frame: Maiden of Black Water this Halloween season; the PS5 has built up its horror library up just enough for there to be something else worthy of your time. Those cutscenes, though. Very creepy.
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bummer. thanks for the review.
I was afraid of this. The Wii U reviews I have seen weren’t all that great. A letdown that this version couldn’t improve much.
Stipp buying day 1 to support the Franchise... Fatal Frame 2 is the only game ever to really scare me
Damn that's a disappointing score!Played the first two on PlayStation years ago and remember loving them so this is the rare occasion I digitally preordered as I was so excited to finally play another game in the series..
Hoping this is another time where your score for a game is well below what id give it..
This is certainly a game I'm buying. Especially when it's a Fatal Frame game.
@Nepp67 Agreed, buying it on the principal that it's commercial success leads to a new entry or even re-releases of 1-4.
Very disappointing.
I watched Access play it the other day and it seemed a little clunky.
It's a shame. Absolutely loved the second game.
@PanFriedSoup Man I hope they re-release 1-4 and especially 4 that's exclusive to Japan for whatever reason. But for right now I'm gonna enjoy FF5 after playingFF 2 Director's Cut on the OG Xbox.
@Nepp67 Definitely, FF 4 was the one Suda 51 directed after all!
I bought this with the hope that they'll eventually remaster the original ps2 trilogy, I absolutely loved those games, I can't wait to try out maiden of black water.
Not surprising unfortunately, will wait for a $10 sale in a few years.
I love the Fatal Frame trilogy from PS2 especially Crimson Butterfly. Bummer that this wasn't well received. Never played this one but will give it a shot. I hope that these underwhelming reviews doesn't affect any chances of the first three to get remaster/ported.
I haven’t played this port yet, but I thought it was quite good - and underrated - on Wii U.
"It wasn't a good game in 2015, and it's no better today"
I disagree with this part and all it shows me is the reviewer went in with the wrong mindset.
So it's a straight up port than a remaster
Already pre ordered it to play with the misses on Halloween but oh well atleast it's not a full price game
Also NintendoLife awarded it an 8/10
Already played this on Wii U so this doesn't surprise me! Shame they didn't even up the visual quality.
@UltimateOtaku91 I'm assuming handheld mode gyro aiming and the fact the Switch wouldn't handle graphics a lot better than the OG aided in that score.
Will still be picking this up. I been wanting to try out this franchise, but I was way too young when the originals released on the PS2, and I didn't own a WiiU like most sane people... So never got the chance to experience this one. But I will probably be picking it up on Nintendo Switch, so i can hide under my bed covers when I get too scared XD.
@Jayofmaya graphically from what I read, the Switch version looks fine. Pretty much almost identical to the Wii U version which also looked pretty good (for a Wii U game ofc).
But there are no complaints about controls on the Switch version. Probably it is because the Switch in handheld is identical to the Wii U gamepad so it is probably easier for KT to port Maiden of Black Water to Switch than for PC and other consoles. And I feel it is pretty clear the Switch version was prioritized first considering a lot of reviews were saying the Switch version is pretty damn good.
You could look at metacritic and see the scores yourself
@HeeHo exactly. That's why i bought the game the moment i read that. Bad review , clunky as the controls in fatal frame 4.
Read the Nintendolife review much better
@UltimateOtaku91 People keep getting mixed up with what remaster means. It typically just means they upped the resolution and maybe raised some other settings like better shadows. It's the same as playing a game on a PC at medium settings, then changing it to high. You get really high level remasters where they go further, sure. The Uncharted trilogy did that, where they used models that were previously used only in pre-rendered cutscenes as the general gameplay models. That's really rare though.
A remake is what a lot of people seem to think of when they hear "remaster". It's why a lot of begging specifically for remasters can seem a bit silly when, like with the Mass Effect trilogy, you could already play it at 4K, 60fps with better textures etc for years. (Though admittedly, they did also change the controls of ME1 and fix some other stuff.)
"You can emulate the Wii U gamepad to a degree through PS5 gyro controls, which is a welcome inclusion even if we turned the option off pretty much immediately."
lol
And people wonder why the GTA collection doesn't have gyro in the Playstation version.
@anoyonmus "Probably it is because the Switch in handheld is identical to the Wii U gamepad so it is probably easier for KT to port Maiden of Black Water to Switch than for PC and other consoles."
That doesn't really make any sense. The fact there's a screen in the middle of the controller doesn't make any difference; the Switch, like the XB and PS, still has 4 shoulder buttons, a d-pad, two analogue sticks, 4 face buttons. It's not as if the controls on the Switch change when you use a Pro controller.
If anything, a difference in average review scores across different platforms for the same game is more down to the culture of that platform; say if a console has loads of JRPGs and an okay one comes along, it's gonna get average scores. The same game on a JRPG starved console will get overrated because it's rare and special to them. Nintendo Life, for example, very rarely mentions bad performance in games or takes it into account for the score, even in games that run at less than 20fps.
@Matroska NL reviews talk about the performance of games and factor that into how they're scored more consistently than I've seen on most other websites.
@Ralizah SO TRUE.
Why should Rockstar implement gyro controls in the PS4/PS5 versions if the players on those consoles won't even use it? And then the fanboys will be complaining "Why can't we have this" or "Why does the Switch version of gyro aiming but PS4/PS5 don't".
Funny thing, the PS5 version of FF Maiden of Black Water on Metacritic is at the same score as the Wii U version
@Matroska NL does mention performance issues in games. Even in first party games, NL takes note of that and as @Ralizah has said, it does factor into their score and because of that, the scores are more consistent than on other websites. (depends on game ofc)
@LiamCroft any difference between the PS5 and PS4 versions? Anything at all?
"It wasn't a good game in 2015". Totally disagree. This is one of the few games that worked with the Wii U game pad. For the time and console it was launched on it has decent visuals. Overall I really like the Wii U ver (solid 7.5/10)
Yes it's no Project Zero 1 or 2, however.
Now as for the PS4/5 port, I'll see.
Couldn't disagree more. Terrible review.
Had this on Wii U and couldnt get into it. Shame as I loved Fatal Frame 4 (with language patch) on Wii. Sold it couple years ago for £125. I just dont get (re)releases like this. Subpar game from years ago released to below average reviews ... cynical dev does NOTHING to address the issues critics' had with it ... and ... what? ... they expect it to suddenly be a great game, be received well and fly off the shelves. They knew it was pretty crap back then and they know its still crap now. Cynical and opportunistic devs.
@anoyonmus I didn't dispute that lol I'm basically saying exactly the same, that it won't review as good on a ps4 because the graphics would need a massive overhaul and the control scheme won't work as well. I'm confused as we basically said the same thing. Lol
@Matroska Yeah, but holding the Wii U game pad or Switch in your hand and moving the whole screen around feels a LOT different to using the ps4's gyro. It feels far more authentic on Nintendo's platforms, where as if anything on the ps4 controllers, it's annoying, doesn't add much and kind of gets in the way. It's a big part of what I actually enjoyed on the Wii U version tbh.
@Matroska Also, I think more should be done on a remaster as when a song is remastered they take all the original stems and completely change bass settings, add many sound variables, change where instruments sit in the mix, etc. (Kind of funny, considering usually someone who masters the track is actually just someone who is remixing it a little for radio polish and it's whoever mixes the track in the first place who does more of the work to make it sound like a balanced song... Yet when a song is called a remix it's a completely different version confusingly...), so I think just up scaling is pretty sloppy, sadly like the Amalur remaster. These remastered games are always at least a generation after the OG, so they have the ability to really work on adding textures and such. Arkham Asylum for instance was a ps3 game that 100% looked like a ps4 game when they finally finished it.
OUCH this is disappointing!
I was hoping this series would make a return after this remaster...but oh well
For people who import the asia english version look our its a rippoff. You get a patch with the english speech and subs i was to late to cancel so beware.
So this is basically just a lazy port/remaster as per usual when it comes from Koei Tecmo. What a surprise.
@Jayofmaya ah I see. Sorry about that
For an alternative opinion, check out this glowing review from Rely On Horror https://www.relyonhorror.com/reviews/review-fatal-frame-maiden-of-black-water-remastered/
Sometimes I buy a remaster in hopes of getting a new game but not here. I'd rather they not butcher the series anymore by further modernizing it. You're kidding yourself if you think the next game would be oldschool.
I can totally understand why someone would give the game this score, but for me it's more of a 7 bordering on 8 (at times). Controls are an issue but it's still got a great concept and atmosphere. I've picked it up to support the franchise and show that I still want to see more games in the series. The original trilogy is still the highlight of the series by far, but this is still good fun and I'm glad to have it on PlayStation as I really didn't like the Wii U as a console.
@RavenWolfe81 it's already old school lol. There's 0 games like fatal frame these days, all what we get is open world fest with millions of quests that get 10s and 9s. We definitely need more open world games.
I ordered a physical copy for this game and seeing the reviews, I am still going to stick by it just to show support for the franchise.
It is a shame that this wasn't the remaster the fans were hoping for.
What a horrible and unnecessary review. This critic is a failure. Firstly: did you expect drastic changes to a port? Their ability to incorporate photograph mode, new costumes, & the digital artbook/album is already brilliant. Secondly- although it can be a bit "clunky" in places: it in no way affects the ability to succeed and is to be expected with newer gen games. The story is beautiful, clear, vintage, haunting, incorporates folklore. As a fan expecting disappointment here i was completely blown away by their ability to capture the essence of fatal frame, modern culture, and take it to a NEW place 20+ years later. Its certainly accessible to new and old players as well. How gross of you to bash a very original, rare type of game that is very well done given how its been set up to fail in so many ways.
@Benley The only issue I can see with the story in FF5 is the uh.... incest thing. Honestly kinda surprising no one even brought it up in this comment section.
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