@UltimateOtaku91 I wouldn’t call BG3 unfinished at launch. The epilogue was basically free DLC, it was an added bonus that didn’t need to be there but rounded out some stories nicely. They also added thousands of lines of dialogue for it. They did it because they wanted to and because they thought people would like it, not because the game was unfinished.
Did it have bugs on launch? Yes, most of them were in Act 3 and were fixed before the majority of the player base ever got there. Many of the fixes have been continued performance improvements and optimizations. I got BG3 on launch, I have a 4 year old PC and ran it on high settings, I played 100 hours in the first 2 weeks and I experienced a little bit of what I would call “jank” at certain times, but no bugs that stuck out to me in any way.
Again, yes there were bugs and I know that there was one act 3 bug that basically prevented you from progressing if you played things a certain way (keep in mind there are thousands of ways to progress things in this game and most quests are optional so this wasn’t a universally game breaking thing). But you are trying to paint this picture and calling a studio that is giving their game some of the better and faster immediate post launch support that we have seen in recent years and instead saying that the game was unfinished/broken because the patches improved a significant numbers of things each time.
@MightyDemon82 it’s a very long game, but even if you just play through act 1 it’s worth playing. I’ve never played anything before with so much interesting and fun content so packed into the map. It’s so dense with interesting interactions. My playthrough took around 130 hours, I scoured every corner of every map and completed all of the quests and side quests that I was able to, and I never once felt bored. All of the content was engaging and rewarding for me. I’ve never felt that way about such a big game.
@CJD87 plus the same year as AC6, the Cyberpunk revival and expansion, AW2, Mario Wonder. It’s been such an insane year for games and we are all benefiting from it (though maybe suffering with excessive backlogs lol).
@Korgon the combat is unforgiving early in the game if you haven’t played other games like it and don’t know the D&D rules and whatnot. Misses can feel unfair and punishing. That being said, the game encourages experimentation and creativity. Best advice early on is read all of the descriptions for abilities and items thoroughly and learn to understand actions vs bonus actions. Don’t be afraid to use consumables or one time use items. You get a lot of them and will have a huge surplus by the end if you don’t use them for most of the game. Once you get a good sense for how the basics of the game work it might be helpful to watch a video explaining a bit more of the in depth side of combat, but until then just don’t get discouraged if you miss an attack or a dialogue check. There really are no wrong ways to play the game and even unfavorable dialogue results often lead to interesting things in the game. I absolutely love the combat, but it’s definitely a lot to learn and understand early on and some of the early fights can be tough.
@UltimateOtaku91 I definitely think BG3 deserved the win here for a lot of reasons, but at the end of the day it doesn’t really matter tbh. Just seems kind of weird because seemingly none of the staff thought it was the best GoTY either. The only reason that I can see it winning the vote is the community vote or the staff voting differently from their personal lists and putting it ahead due to mass appeal I suppose. BG3 and AW2 are both fantastic games with more interesting and/or innovative aspects throughout (compared to spider man 2 that is), but at the same time they are definitely both more niche games that not everyone will love just due to their genres and combat among other things.
That being said BG3 is #1 for me and AW2 is #2 for the year. BG3 is in the discussion for the top rpgs ever made imo, and might have the biggest impact on RPGs in the future.
@UltimateOtaku91 you mentioned that more editors had Spider-Man 2 on their top lists than BG3, but it’s worth noting that not a single editor has placed Spider-Man as #1 on their personal lists. The highest it has placed for anyone individually whose list has been posted so far is #2. Whatever the actual intricacies of their voting system are, this seems like a very strange outcome unless the community vote is weighted much more heavily than implied. Or unless their personal lists have nothing to do with their actual GoTY votes in which case the Spider-Man 2 #1 selection might be even more strange.
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@UltimateOtaku91 I wouldn’t call BG3 unfinished at launch. The epilogue was basically free DLC, it was an added bonus that didn’t need to be there but rounded out some stories nicely. They also added thousands of lines of dialogue for it. They did it because they wanted to and because they thought people would like it, not because the game was unfinished.
Did it have bugs on launch? Yes, most of them were in Act 3 and were fixed before the majority of the player base ever got there. Many of the fixes have been continued performance improvements and optimizations. I got BG3 on launch, I have a 4 year old PC and ran it on high settings, I played 100 hours in the first 2 weeks and I experienced a little bit of what I would call “jank” at certain times, but no bugs that stuck out to me in any way.
Again, yes there were bugs and I know that there was one act 3 bug that basically prevented you from progressing if you played things a certain way (keep in mind there are thousands of ways to progress things in this game and most quests are optional so this wasn’t a universally game breaking thing). But you are trying to paint this picture and calling a studio that is giving their game some of the better and faster immediate post launch support that we have seen in recent years and instead saying that the game was unfinished/broken because the patches improved a significant numbers of things each time.
Re: Game of the Year: #2 - Baldur's Gate 3
@MightyDemon82 it’s a very long game, but even if you just play through act 1 it’s worth playing. I’ve never played anything before with so much interesting and fun content so packed into the map. It’s so dense with interesting interactions. My playthrough took around 130 hours, I scoured every corner of every map and completed all of the quests and side quests that I was able to, and I never once felt bored. All of the content was engaging and rewarding for me. I’ve never felt that way about such a big game.
Re: Game of the Year: #2 - Baldur's Gate 3
@CJD87 plus the same year as AC6, the Cyberpunk revival and expansion, AW2, Mario Wonder. It’s been such an insane year for games and we are all benefiting from it (though maybe suffering with excessive backlogs lol).
Re: Game of the Year: #2 - Baldur's Gate 3
@Korgon the combat is unforgiving early in the game if you haven’t played other games like it and don’t know the D&D rules and whatnot. Misses can feel unfair and punishing. That being said, the game encourages experimentation and creativity. Best advice early on is read all of the descriptions for abilities and items thoroughly and learn to understand actions vs bonus actions. Don’t be afraid to use consumables or one time use items. You get a lot of them and will have a huge surplus by the end if you don’t use them for most of the game. Once you get a good sense for how the basics of the game work it might be helpful to watch a video explaining a bit more of the in depth side of combat, but until then just don’t get discouraged if you miss an attack or a dialogue check. There really are no wrong ways to play the game and even unfavorable dialogue results often lead to interesting things in the game. I absolutely love the combat, but it’s definitely a lot to learn and understand early on and some of the early fights can be tough.
Re: Game of the Year: #2 - Baldur's Gate 3
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Re: Game of the Year: #2 - Baldur's Gate 3
@UltimateOtaku91 I definitely think BG3 deserved the win here for a lot of reasons, but at the end of the day it doesn’t really matter tbh. Just seems kind of weird because seemingly none of the staff thought it was the best GoTY either. The only reason that I can see it winning the vote is the community vote or the staff voting differently from their personal lists and putting it ahead due to mass appeal I suppose. BG3 and AW2 are both fantastic games with more interesting and/or innovative aspects throughout (compared to spider man 2 that is), but at the same time they are definitely both more niche games that not everyone will love just due to their genres and combat among other things.
That being said BG3 is #1 for me and AW2 is #2 for the year. BG3 is in the discussion for the top rpgs ever made imo, and might have the biggest impact on RPGs in the future.
Re: Game of the Year: #2 - Baldur's Gate 3
@Fiendish-Beaver hahah our timing is impeccable. Love it.
Re: Game of the Year: #2 - Baldur's Gate 3
@UltimateOtaku91 you mentioned that more editors had Spider-Man 2 on their top lists than BG3, but it’s worth noting that not a single editor has placed Spider-Man as #1 on their personal lists. The highest it has placed for anyone individually whose list has been posted so far is #2. Whatever the actual intricacies of their voting system are, this seems like a very strange outcome unless the community vote is weighted much more heavily than implied. Or unless their personal lists have nothing to do with their actual GoTY votes in which case the Spider-Man 2 #1 selection might be even more strange.