Topic: General PlayStation 4 Thread

Good news, Doods!

NIS have been busy.
They announced 3 new games for PS4 and PSVita:

-Liar Princess and the Blind Prince
-Project Nightmare
-Disgaea Remake

Liar Princess looks a lot like the Yomawari games. Project Nightmare only had a live action trailer, but it's supposedly a horror adventure game.
It's unclear whether the Disgaea remake is an actual remake or a just high-resolution remaster. The game reveals were all represented in typically weird Japanese fashion.

As a big Disgaea fan I'm made up on the possibility of Disgaea 1 on PS4/PSVita. I hope it's an actual remake that uses the D5 engine. Should be easy enough as Nippon ichi create all the major characters anyways and add them as paid DLC for every game.

https://gematsu.com/2018/01/nippon-ichi-software-announces-li...

Also it looks like NIS are preparing for life after Vita, as these games are also coming out on Switch (apart from Project Nigthmare).
They've been great to the Vita & it's sad to see them go.

@ShogunRok So DBF does have in-game currency but it's for purchasing lootboxes.

https://techraptor.net/content/dragon-ball-fighterz-loot-boxes

@KratosMD it's great they are trying to remake games that maybe had some great ideas but for whatever reason we're not that great. But, shaqfu, may be a game that cannot be good.

@KratosMD I would love to see more of these remasters/remakes. Playing Okami on PS4 for the first time, and definitely gonna get shadow of the Colossus. Just strange anyone would remake shaqfu.

@KratosMD Despite how bad the game.is, because of that it has gained a cult folllwing. It's just like the case with a bad movie. Plan 9 from Outer Space is considered by many to be one of the worst movies ever yet it's popular for that reason, and it doesn't take a genuis to know if something is popular it will make money.

Bluepoint Games is already working on another remake of a 'classic' title (as expected). There's a job listing on their website, and they're looking for all kinds of people, but it also comes with this note:

''The Bluepoint team is preparing for our next remake of a classic. Want to be part of creating something special, a game millions of gamers are eagerly anticipating?''

It's vague, and there's a lot of remakes millions of gamers are anticipating, but it's interesting to think about nonetheless. Anyway, seeing how all of their remasters and remakes have ended up on PlayStation, I think it's safe to say that the new one will too.

I have no idea what to expect or what I'd even want though... Pepsiman remake?

@Octane Ico or the Medevil game that was announced late last year.

@JohnnyShoulder Plausible. Although I'm not sure if ICO is the game ''millions'' of fans are anticipating. I'll take an ICO remake, I've never played the game.

@Octane Coolspot, natch.

@Octane Demon Souls remake. Sony own the IP & pretty much every souls fan under the sun has been asking for it.

Also the servers are conveniently closing down at the end of the month.
Maybe that's because a new game is coming... .

E3 reveal. You heard it here first, folks.

@Fight_Teza_Fight Oh yeah please that would be awesome, never played that.

@Fight_Teza_Fight @KratosMD It doesn't have to be a Sony IP though. Bluepoint also ported Titanfall to the Xbox 360, and they did the Metal Gear Solid Collection on PS3 and 360.

@KratosMD I’d consider it a classic. 8 years old & gave birth to a genre. Probably wishful thinking. I’m a big Souls fan, but I missed out on this game.

@Octane I consider them first party in all but name- like Insomniac.
They might go & do their own thing every once in a while, but they know where their bread is buttered .

@Kidfried Definitely would be interesting to see a Mass Effect remake for PS4 since the first game never came to PlayStation. After Andromeda’s underperformance I fear it would not be as well received though. I would be on board with it though.
In looking back at PS2 classics, I wonder if a remake of Prince of Persia would ever be considered. The franchise seems to have died but I would be curious to see if the gameplay holds up to current gen standards.

@KratosMD I consider the PS3 and XB360 as 'retro' consoles now. Neither console is still in production and both are over 10yrs old in terms of technology. Games like Dead Space, Bioshock, Uncharted etc are considered 'classics' so why can't Demon Souls? I admit Demon Souls is my type of game but its still a 'classic' of its genre. Its not just early PS3/XB360 titles either that are 'classics' - Red Dead Redemption is a 'classic' too. I know a lot of classics can be played on a current console via BC with XB1 but you still need a discontinued 10yr old console to play these - whether Physical or Virtual (as the XB1 uses).

I also think you can have 'Classic' games on current hardware too. The Witcher 3 for example is a 'classic' - whether it can be played on current hardware or not. Its redefined what open world action RPG's should aspire too and will be remembered for years to come. Classics don't have to be over 10yrs old to be 'classic' - especially not in gaming as it moves fast. A year is a long time in gaming...

@Th3solution Mass Effect certainly did come to the PS3!! It was ported by Edge of Reality and featured some lighting and visual effect improvements. It may have come late to the PS3 (I think it was 2012) and released as part of a ME trilogy but it certainly did come to PS3...

Anyone else with a Pro and VR having major issues with the beta FW 5.50? It's not really going into standby properly.. the drive keeps spinning and the orange light pulses fairly quickly. My PSVR breakout box is also not going into standby.

I'm going to try downgrading back to official after work. I was just curious if this was common or if I'm just unlucky.

@BAMozzy Oh, yeah, you’re right! I forgot they released it with the trilogy pack. I just never bought that since I had already bought ME2 and ME 3 separately. Good catch.

@BAMozzy I could never consider PS3 or Xbox 360 as retro consoles that just feels wrong. For me retro is anything N64/PSone and back. PS2 and up just seems wrong to call retro but that's my opinion of course. I mean I don't see a 2005 Chevrolet Silverado and say OMG that's retro.

@Tasuki Each to their own of course but as I said, I feel gaming moves on so much more than cars for example and the fact that the PS3/XB360 are no longer in production, that makes them Retro to me. They were 'retro' before MS/Sony decided to stop making them when they stopped being the lead console or able to play the latest games but I will accept that they became 'retro' when Sony and MS discontinued production. I felt the same way with the N64 when the Game Cube released, the same way about the WiiU now the Switch is out etc. When there is a significant generational leap over the predecessor as there is with consoles, the old become 'Retro' for me. When 16bit replaced 8bit, I didn't wait until 32/64bit or 128bit era until 8bit became retro - it was almost instantaneous. I look at PS3/XB360 games as 'retro' - even in their visual' presentation. The obviously lower polygon counts affecting everything from faces, hair, clothing even environmental things like trees etc too.

There is a massive difference between these two images of Nathan Drake. Look at the fabric too. I am sure I don't need to tell you how much of a generational leap the realistic 'visuals' have come. Faces are a long way from the low polygonal N64 texture wrap that at the time seemed incredible - Goldeneye for example looked amazing and so 'lifelike' (at the time and at least you could 'recognise' the actors faces).

Even those games that have been 'remastered' (not remade), look 'last gen' compared to games built specifically for this gen. Fallout 4 doesn't look a significant step up - more colours maybe but its still looks like a remaster of a last gen game - maybe it was as the devs may well have began work on it for last gen or used the last game as a 'template'. Its not so easy with more 'cartoon' graphics but you can't deny that the realism in modern games - especially water, people, clothing etc is a big step up.

Ok so its not as 'retro' as PS2 era and certainly not as 'retro' as the 32/64, 16 or even 8bit eras but as far as I am concerned, with each new generation that offers a 'significant' step up - not just in terms of visuals, but in virtually all areas, that then makes the older console 'retro'. Again that doesn't mean that games can't be 'classic' unless on a retro console - the point I was making more. I consider games like the Witcher 3 as a 'modern day classic' but its still a classic. CoD4 is considered a Classic too as is more recent games like BioShock, Dead Space, MW2, Red Dead Redemption etc.

Retro, by definition, is involving, relating to, or reminiscent of an earlier time: denoting something associated with or revived from the past:

As the PS3 and XB360 are 'discontinued', they are both 'Retro' by definition. As games also have 'short' life, its easier for them to become 'classics' on current hardware. As such its also easier (at least for me) to see the older generations as 'retro' too because the software is more dated. I agree its not as 'retro' as the PS1 era or even PS2 era but its still a retro console