Gran Turismo 7 is undeniably a fantastic racing game, and the best the series has been in a long time. However, some fans feel that the game's payout of Credits — the in-game currency — is rather stingy, especially after a recent patch that cut back some of the higher paying events. When you also consider the online woes the game's suffered lately, it can't have been a fun time at Polyphony Digital.
Speaking of the studio, it's taken to the PlayStation Blog today to lay out its plans for Credit rewards in the game. Basically, after listening to all the feedback, the team is rebalancing the game to be overall much more generous.
"Thank you for your continued support and feedback on Gran Turismo 7, your voices have not gone unheard," writes Kazunori Yamauchi. By way of an apology, all players who log into GT7 before 25th April will receive 1 million Credits as a goodwill gesture. That's not where it ends, though — a big patch arriving in April will make the following adjustments to the in-game economy:
- Increase rewards in the events in the latter half of the World Circuits by approximately 100% on average.
- Addition of high rewards for clearing the Circuit Experience in all Gold/All Bronze results.
- Increase of rewards in Online Races.
- Include a total of eight new one-hour Endurance Race events to Missions. These will also have higher reward settings.
- Increase the upper limit of non-paid credits in player wallets from 20M Cr. to 100M Cr.
- Increase the quantity of Used and Legend cars on offer at any given time.
Essentially, the game will give you more Credits across the board, lessening the emphasis on microtransactions and rewarding continued play.
Additionally, some "near-term" updates in the pipeline will make further improvements to the game's rewards, including the ability to sell cars.
"We want to thank you for your continued patience and valuable feedback as we grow and evolve GT7 to make it as enjoyable and rewarding for as many players as possible," Kaz says. "We always want to keep communication lines open with our community so that we can work together to build the best racing experience possible."
What do you think of these changes? Will this solve the lingering issues hanging over Gran Turismo 7? Discuss in the comments section below.
[source blog.playstation.com]
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Ok good now how about an offline mode please?
And this is exactly why it's important to be critical of the games and companies we love. Without the backlash, this wouldn't have happened.
Well at least they have listened to the people.
I won't raise my score on metacritic until Kaz personally comes round to ours in a concept car and apologises to my Mum and my dog.
Well it is a start I guess.
Ask me again after all these planned April rollouts.
Logging in post 1.09 patch shortly to see if the game has removed my "invitation to purchase" notification that has expired, but hasn't gone away, and was for an $18m car when my balance was around $2m lol
Server maintenance
Right now
Unbelievable
Im not going to argue with extra cr, but it was hardly needed.
Selling cars 👍
Endurance races 👍
Rebalanced economy 👍
Number of events increased 👍
Looks like plenty of improvements should be seen by the end of next month. Fingers crossed.
What a disgusting practice and if Microsoft had done this you’d never hear the end of it. I’m a loyal PlayStation fan with a PS5 but Microsoft are much more Pro consumer than Fony
@DarthKiwi we knew it was always online long before launch. It is after all an esports title. Always online means it will need maintenance.
What is unbelievable about it?
@Loftimus Unbelievable that it is happening right after the patch has been released and I only have time for about an hours play. Take those servers down for maintenance before, don't get me excited about a new patch release only to find as soon as it is installed I cannot play it.
Thankfully F1 2021 just came onto EA Pass. I'll try my luck with GT7 tomorrow.
A positive step, of course it should never have been in this position in the first place but at least they are listening
@Luigia
Lmao! You’re something else!
@Luigia Lol! I own both and they both have their issues. I'd recommend not owning any consoles and you'll probably be more chilled out in life. I mean don't get me started on my Switch. Possibly my favourite console but has more problems than any of them put together!
Glad they've started to balance the game better. Grinding is part of the fun in GT but the headlines were putting me off purchasing the game. This helps alleviate some concerns.
@Royalblues how? the game still selling like crazy.
Increasing rewards for circuit experience.. so I have done loads of them gold, will I receive more credits or is that a missed chance for more? I don't mind either way as I aint an over entitled moaner banging on about mtx or a lack of credits.
Pretty sure we all work the same boring job every day to be able to afford a car and such. Nowt wrong with a similar thing here in gt7.
Maybe it's just my age but I really cannot stand the complaining about trivial matters.
One million credits? That's enough to buy myself a Jaaaaaaag
@DarthKiwi Maintenance should end 10am GMT
Ah very nice! That didn't take long either.
I just started playing last night. (Just in time for the free 1m creds)
I love it. Amazing. It's like hot chocolate. It's just good.
I have no interest in cars. Zero. Haven't driven in years.
But I love this game. I spent two hours trying to shave .014 of a second off one of my licences last night so I could get the gold. I regret nothing.
@Salt_AU I'm pretty sure challenge comes from playing the game not from how big of a reward you get.
@thefourfoldroot that made me chuckle 😜
@a1904 - Your Clarkson and I now claim my 1 million credits
AAAAAARRRRRGGGGGHHHHH.
Too late, I snapped my copy in anger during one of my hourly rage and rant at Kaz fits.
I won’t be buying another copy. Sorry Jimmy Ryan. I’m out.
Thank you for not making a product inferior after a few weeks of release.
Like it should be.
@lolwhatno No, snapped that disc in half, then ground it into powder before pouring it into my arch nemesis’s pepper cellar.
Just picturing him eating smoked salmon with ground up bits of GT7 on it.
Priceless.
@SoulChimera 😂😂😂
@Loftimus speak for yourself when you say it is hardly needed.
For some of us who enjoy buying parts and tuning some of our favourite cars, the credits are in short supply. Unless you wanna play the same race 100 times to afford the things you want in the game, which most ppl don't want from 79.99€ game.
@Luigia Gears 5 is online only and has tons and tons of MTX and while it can be played offline Forza also has tons of MTX, its only now Sony have gone hard on doing what MS embraced years back.
Definitely a step in the right direction. Fingers crossed for an offline mode.
This was inevitable.
Complain To Win
@SpaceDonkey lack of content are joking.
I love that the servers was up 30-40 minutes early today. An the 1 million was a nice bonus.
@kyleforrester87 best comment.
I'm sure I read that this was billed as being a carpg which would mean similar mechanics to an actual rpg game. So in my eyes, the grind is all part of it. Also this game was never intended to be finished in a week. As live service game, the plan is to evolve over the years. So surely if you want everything straight away, play a different game. So trophy hunters like myself, this ain't a quick plat.
@WallyWest
That's the bigger issue. Annoying as it is, I could look past the in-game credit situation if the single player campaign was playable offline.
Far far far better. Well done for a U turn that should never have been needed. Still a sour taste but at least in reality they made it better.
@Toypop does GT7 have a free upgrade from PS4 version?
While promising signs, it's important to stay cautious. Making one area of live service less anti-consumer usually results in another area to become more anti-consumer.
@get2sammyb maybe… but it’s only happening because people complained. You guys played your part. Which is good. If we had followed the advice of many people here and “stopped moaning” it wouldn’t have been. They thought they were gonna get away with it else they wouldn’t have done it. This wasn’t planned
@BRT15 ive got plenty of cars fully tuned. Its not a big cost ..
Are you going to redo the poll? 🤣
@SpaceDonkey you must played the game nonstop a weekend to complete most of the games content that’s not lack of content that’s lack of a life .
Not getting any kudos from me. This never should have happened in the first place. They knew exactly what they were doing by testing the waters to see what they could get away with. This mea culpa rings so hollow and I'm sick of these when companies don't get away with their garbage. No one should forget what Sony and Polyphony tried to pull here.
Vocal minority wins again. Are they really the minority these days...
@Texan_Survivor I agree with what you're saying in general but the XB1 reveal was just MS being MS; they weren't leading with the 360. It was the worst selling console of that generation despite coming out a year before the PS3 and even longer before the Wii, IIRC. That said, I think they still saw it as a success since it did a lot better than the original Xbox which barely sold outside of America and lost them several billion dollars. So it still fits with your point - they'd done a lot better than last time and were feeling cocky.
@Texan_Survivor I agree but that was then and this is now. Sony don’t even preserve gaming whilst Microsoft does at no extra cost.
@WallyWest true but GT7 sounds like it’s stealth. I gotta say, as much as I love GT it feels so sterile and soulless at times. I wish Sony would allow another studio to take it to the next level.
@Luigia Nintendo, Microsoft, and Sony are only concerned with making as much money as possible while keeping you as a customer on their platform. Xbox has gamepass because they believe it is the best way to make money in the long run, not because they want to give value to gamers. Shareholders are uninterested in you or anyone else other than the value you bring to the ecosystem. It's a plus if they make a lot of money and have a good reputation. Despite the look how approachable we are type PR they put out, corps are not your friends. Every decision is made with the bottom line in mind, and it is up to you to decide which business model suits you best.
This is exactly what I wanted to hear. Gran Turismo 7 just got even better, and the ability to sell cars will be cool, too. I’m probably in the minority, but for me at least, GT7 is knocking on the door of being a 10/10 game. It’s definitely my favourite PS5 game to date.
While the grind is real and the change is very welcome GT isn't really a game to be finished quick.
There's always clearly been new content on the way to beef up the offerings (new tracks, events etc) which didn't really happen in older GT's and before trophies were a thing you were absolutely left with doing the same race over and over to collect all the cars.
The whingebags in here and elsewhere online expecting to complete the game and collect every single car within 40-50 hours is staggering.
The nerf rightly deserved backlash but the complaining started well before that.
@Luigia
What are you even getting at? It has happened in a similar fashion on Xbox in the past. There were complaints then, just like there are complaints against Sony right now.
You're trying to insinuate that typical Xbox mentality of 'Sony can do no wrong' the fans spoke out and the situation reversed. It's not like Xbox fans say, that Sony fans let them get away with everything.
I'm sorry, you say otherwise but you definitely sound like an Xbox fanboy with that comment.
Brilliant, exactly what was needed. Selling cars also an excellent move. The issues hadn’t really bothered me, but the corrections are all welcome.
Excited to see what else the future holds for this title.
@Shepherd_Tallon i thought you would like it. Add me man and we can compare/challenge times etc. Its fun beating someone by a second or so them seeing them beat you in return.
Basically they got caught, didn't fancy a lawsuit like EA and backtracked on all the crap changes they made. Good.
Well look at that, when people complain things are changed. Unlike some of the ones posting on here that we're happy to just bend over and accept / defend the crap changes being made.
@Luigia How do you factor Sony patching the firmware on legacy ps systems and ps5 to allow for playing the contents of the disk in offline mode into your calculation for game preservation while Microsoft do not?
Great news, complaining does the job. Good to see endurance racing making an appearance.
@Shepherd_Tallon it's so addictive isn't it. Plus incredibly satisfying when achieve that target. Great game like you say.
@Luigia
Microsoft preserve gaming..! What planet are you on.
@tinCAT-zero At NO extra cost he might add 😂
An extra milly? I’ll take it!
Other than the day long maintenance I never saw an issue to begin with. So this is fine by me.
@Toypop I don’t think it’s possible for publications to nerf the review scores post-release. I’m sure conditions are given when review copies are sent out which state scores must be final.
@rjc-32 surely not?
@get2sammyb? You can change a review score whenever you like? You could re-review a year after release surely? To take into consideration patches? This isn’t outlawed is it?
Be interesting to know what’s allowed…..
@Luigia lol OK. You're not paying attention. Forza and Horizon and Halo all have items that are unattainable via gameplay and only via MTX. That is not the case here. Get real.
Oh, but I thought we were all wrong and just whiners & complainers and that this would accomplish nothing? Further proof that if you love something, and others are doing things to ruin it and you just want to see it improved and restored back to glory, then SPEAK UP. Don't just sit there as blind, deaf, and muted monkeys, and make excuses for multi-billion and trillion dollar global corporations that merely reward their own execs & board members with these nickel & dime anti-consumer price increases and restrictions.
Like others have said, Now, time for Sony/PD to remove the always-online restriction...
It sucks, but as some have already voiced, the damage has been done. (Not me, particularly, as the gameplay itself is great and I will continue playing competively, but I will be weary of my favorite Sony exclusives going forward.) Hopefully, Sony can learn from this and not make the same mistakes in the future.
A lot of this shouldn't have happened but at least they are fixing things now. If you make enough noise Sony will reverse their decisions, the PS Store closure and Horizon Forbidden West's upgrade is proof of that. Now we just need them to scrap the game always requiring online, or at least have some of the game be accessible when the servers are offline.
@EquiinoxGII Very very addictive.
I was approaching 8pm telling myself I wouldn't play passed 8.
I repeated that for 9pm.
Just before 10 I finally had that magical run where I "smashed" the target time by something like .5 of a second.
@Kidfunkadelic83 Will do!
I'll add you now. My name is the same, so you'll know it's me.
@ApostateMage Why where you relaxed towards that piece garbage game that is your avatar? They need to pay me money to pay that piece of garbage that was playable 1 year after release and its still dissapointing on PS4.
@TheArt If a minority can wreck your sales by reviewbombing your then yes.
Whelp, I’m glad they responded and did something about it. Definitely a step in the right direction. I still refuse to buy any online-only game for more than $20 so I’ll be waiting a bit for it to become a budget game. That’s what I did with GT Sport, Need for Speed Heat, and a few other online-only titles.
Right peeps. Not a car fan, never played a GT game but I recognise a reversal of decision when I see it and it should be applauded just as criticism should be questioned. But I have a new dilemma:. £70 worth of GT7 or £70 worth of haribo? 🤷♂️😂
Nope. Sorry Kaz. Too little, too late. How about 5 mil? No? Ok then. On a serious note, I think that was a good move on their part, even if somewhat forced and expected.
A step in the right direction.
To be pleased with an in-game currency payout of value that is set by the company itself is pretty foolish. Let's be real here, they have still got away with charging over £50 for individual cars and an always online model in a £70 premium release. They simply came in hard with the fullest, dirtiest approach, before slightly retracting and everyone laps it up (pun most definitely intended). Sigh.
@Old-Red sums up how to be a good negotiator, don’t go in for what you think you can get away with, go in for your ideal outcome. Even with the retraction they will still make a killing on micro transactions
I will purchase this at $20...no more, but hey, maybe they will have this thing figured out by then.
The graphics are sweet, but over the years I have gravitated to Forza. Mostly because it is less Grindy and the community is more involved with the studio and they tend to gift a lot of cars, credits, etc. as thanks.
@Old-Red I think part of the problem here is that GT7 is seen to be a really good game by people who love cars. It's not like it's mediocre or rubbish. How can you not warm eventually to a great game that is taking remedial action from criticism? That's a no win way of looking at things I think.
@KayOL77 that isn't a question. If we all find out you bought GT7 you will be officially banned from this site. Hahahaha
@Stocksy It would be great if someone from pushsquare could confirm, but I’m convinced that the scores must be final based on review copies of the game that are sent out, at least for an agreed period of time until after the game release date. This would also make sense from a publisher’s point of view, if a publication was free to change review scores then there would be no incentive to provide said publication with review copies. The idea is, especially in GT7’s case, is to garner as many positive reviews for metacritic as possible to generate maximum sales and interest, allowing the changes of scores would negatively impact this surely.
Won't be buying until they segregate online and offline and remove the need for internet connection, or a connection to their server. I played GT3 in the past without a connection and enjoyed the crap out of it. I want that again but with the PS5 experience.
@EquiinoxGII GT7 did indeed win out, but it was close 😂. Haribo are a bit more transient unfortunately.
@MrJohnson71 completely agree and appreciate your reply 👍🏻
@Old-Red wait... what?! £50 for one, singular car? Not a car pack with a handful of cars, but one car for £50??!
@KayOL77 just reported you. Ban is on its way. Haha
Good news! Making a fantastic game even better. Anyone who is enjoying the game and wanting to compare times etc. Hit me up on my psn which is the same as my username here. Message that you are from pushsquare. Peace!
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i feel like most of the complaints about this game are made by people who don't even own the game or have played it. but hey i'll take it , im glad they are doing this.
@WallyWest don’t forget that Forza was hardly online within the first 3-4 weeks and they themselves w**** themselves out to selling a car pass, a vip pass, and so on and so forth. That and game pass will either destroy the gaming industry, game pass will be 35-40 bucks a month or companies will hold their games from the service
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Nintendo fans: Wait, you can complain and the company will actually listen and reverse their decision? Impossible!!
Am i being stupid or has the 1mil credits not been gifted over yet as i certainly havnt got them 🤷♂️
(EDIT) yes, i was being stupid 😂
We need more races! More races more money! Not this bs 10 lap you have 1 liter of fuel GO! Just another daily quest at this point .. lauch gt7 , check used lot for fc3s ...nope , do 4 high speed ring 600pp races for 90k, collect your daily reward and wait 24 hours.
@ApostateMage so, one apology?
😂
Sorry, couldn't help make that joke!
I had sworn off buying this unless they rebalanced the game towards fun, instead of currency purchases.
Personally, maybe the damage is done already as I don't know if we can trust them not to undo this 6 months down the line. I wouldn't have thought there'd been such egregious MTX anyway within a first party title like this.
However, happy to see what people think of the changes before going final. I'm really disappointed but grateful they listened.
After 25 years of making gran turismo games they really needed player feedback to tell them their decisions for the game were bad 😂
@ChromaticDracula Just out of interest mate, how do you deal with all the game patches and ps updates without internet? I'm not trolling, just wanting to know why somebodies console merely being online is such an issue when everything is relatively online these days...
@EquiinoxGII Getting banned for buying a PlayStation first party game and saying such on a PlayStation site? Tough crowd 😂
@Kidfunkadelic83, its in the gift option
@stBoa literally just seen it when i went to use a roulette token 😂😂
@MattBoothDev Did you just dis my Mother!? I tell you what mate, it's a good job she's on her lead.
@KayOL77 not taking any offense… it’s a good question but remember there’s a giant difference between patching a game with an update once or even a few times and requiring a persistent connection to play single player:
What if you were busy all week working and all you wanted to do was come home, turn on your PS5 and bang out a few races and watch the replays, gawking at your car as is flies around the turns and kicks up rain. You just want to unwind and play your $70 game.
But you discover either your internet is down at your house, or god forbid, there’s another server maintenance and the game is unplayable for the night or for even a few hours. Your night is ruined.
Whatever gameplay you can muster without an internet connection is in vain because none of your progress is saved and you didn’t earn any credits and you only have access to a few tracks.
Meanwhile, you look around the room and see your other games that you can play. Practically all of them are playable because they don’t require an internet connection. They’re playable patched or unpatched. Hell… You can drive to the store and buy just about any other game off the shelf and come home and pop it in and play it regardless if you have internet or not. So you settle for something like Horizon Forbidden West. You might even pop in Elden Ring knowing you won’t see peoples messages around the world but at least you can go kick some tarnished butt. You can play all these games because it’s not dependent on an internet connection.
That’s where I have a problem. Don’t even get me started on what will happen in like 15 years when they shut the server down and your $70 game is just an empty faded memory.
I have a problem with these things. Patches are fine because they don’t prevent me from playing single player games. Needing to be connected to a server to have basic single player functionality is completely different than that.
Practice of company that knows it can do what ever because people will keep buying their stuff. Hiding the transactions to get good reviews to sell games is very shady, so much for the For the Players, its now For the Share Holders.
@ChromaticDracula I understand the principle totally. And the time when stuff is unavailable IS annoying. I but mostly digital these days, but a server outage usually means licences can't be authenticated which is a pain. As long as the downtime isn't too severe or sporadic I'll allow it. Is it right that you can play gt7 offline but your race scores will not be counted? If not they should allow personal bests offline but only online races count in leaderboards and things. That might be a nice balance if it's not like that already.
@Quadalog Are you so vain as to think they there can’t be a build up from these issues in lost sales and engagement?
You enjoying the game won’t matter as much as the lost sales they can happen. Look at BF2, the lost sales of Battlefield V. One sale doesn’t matter, but each Millikan sold comes from a many ones.
@TheArt You mean the vocal minority that is also the target audience of the game? That loves Gran Turismo minority?
@Jaz007 What I'm saying is, the internet likes to think devs don't listen to the vocal minority but clearly they listen. Plus I don't think they're really a minority anymore, yeah well to some extent still the number may be small but I'm sure it's increased over the years.
S...w you Yamauchi,and your greed,this thing never had to be a THING
They lost my trust. I won’t purchase the game. Plenty of other games to play that don’t have microtransactions.
@Luigia
What are you talking about? Sony gets criticized much more than Microsoft or Nintendo. Just look at this current debacle. They were bashed and criticized like crazy on social media and gaming websites. People were protesting, boycotting, using scripts to farm credits, and selling their GT7 copies. The game was downvoted to hell on Metacritic and now has one of the lowest if not the lowest User Score average on the website ever. Do you still think people let them off the hook easily? What more do you want? Burn Ryan on a stake or lynch him? Quarter Shuhei Yoshida?
@TheArt I've never understood this "vocal minority" narrative. For 1) everybody is online today. 2) There's a reason companies spend millions advertising online, and why reviews scores matter.
I mean, does anybody buy games because they saw it in the argos catalogue, on a TV advert, or local game store anymore? No, it's all online and word of mouth. And if the Internet word of mouth is "dis game bad" that gets spread outside of here too.
I think "vocal minority" at least in the context of video games, is just cope.
@OneWingedAngel I want a Sony to allow GT8 to be made by a different team.
@Richnj Exactly. There's a lot more people on the internet we fail to realize. Even if they aren't on game sites, they're definitely on Facebook, Twitter, YouTube and there's a lot of advertisement going on there.
@neilh20man They did not. If they really listened and cared about the Players they wouldn't have pulled that stupid stunt in the first place oh and they still didn't add an offline mode either for Single Player. Listen did they? pfftt yeah right.
@Luigia
There is no other dev team that has the talent to develop a GT game. I don't know how old you are but if you were around during the 90s at the time of the release of the first GT then you most likely know that Gran Turismo has always been made by Kazunori Yamauchi. The guy is a 54-year-old professional racer, car enthusiast, and veteran developer. Gran Turismo is his brainchild and there is no better developer than him for creating a racing game. You cannot just give Grant Turismo to Naughty Dog or Guerilla or some newly assembled team and expect them to create a quality racing game. They would have no idea what to do. Sony only needs to stay clear of live service and MTX like they have mostly until now.
@OneWingedAngel your passion for the game is clear to see and enjoy the racing 👍🏻👍🏻
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