A leaked script from the next Tomb Raider game, allegedly named Project Jawbreaker, has been struck with a DMCA by publisher Square Enix. PlayStation podcast Sacred Symbols obtained a document from the game, which is being used to help cast characters. The sheet, which was widely reported on, introduced a rebooted Lara Croft, now in her mid-30s. Having had experience as a solo adventurer, the document went on that she now seeks a team to overcome a challenge too great to tackle alone.
In order to present the information, ex-IGN journalist Colin Moriarty and his co-hosts performed the script for their Patreon subscribers, but Square Enix immediately contacted the site in an attempt to get it removed. It’s worth remembering that developer Crystal Dynamics, which makes the Tomb Raider games, is due to be acquired by Embracer Group – but that deal is yet to be closed. It’s possible that Square Enix is being extra protective of its property to ensure the sale goes through, then.
Moriarty and his team have decided to comply with the DMCA, but as part of a separate podcast explaining the situation, he argued that the podcast fell within the constraints of fair use. “I was acting in the notion that this is fair use, this is general interest, this is of huge general interest, I didn’t break into Crystal Dynamics to steal it,” he said. While the audio is being removed from Patreon per the platform’s request, it will continue to exist in other locations for the time being.
Of course, the aggressive legal action effectively confirms the legitimacy of the script. We know that the title will be made using Unreal Engine 5, but the top-level pitch is that it will be an “action adventure game set in a modern day world rocked by a mysterious cataclysm”. That sure sounds like a Tomb Raider game to us.
To be honest, the writing in recent entries has been absolutely atrocious, so while Moriarty and co were playful with their mocking re-enactment of the script, we’re hopeful Square Enix will go back to the drawing board. In fact, we’re not overly keen on the underlying concept of a squad-based Tomb Raider game; while we appreciate Crystal Dynamics’ desire to do something a little bit different, Lara Croft’s never particularly struck us as a team player. We suppose that’s the character trait the game is attempting to explore, but we’re not really feeling it, are you?
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Sounds utterly abysmal. What a terrible, terrible idea 🙄
Yikes......co-op Tomb Raider. Crystal Dynamics are you now trying to take the "success" of your Avengers game to Tomb Raider?
Square Enix clearly doesn't understand the Streisand effect.
Also, the dialogue that was read out didn't inspire much confidence. It sounds painfully generic.
One by one all of my favourite franchises are being destroyed, please not Tomb Raider too 🥲
I hope it isn't a cliche where one of her team members becomes a traitor near the end.
I am afraid It's going to be mediocre at best after hearing the dialogue.
You also forgot to mention her female love interest which will trigger a lot of people.
Yes, because Crystal Dynamics has such a solid track record for creating co-op games.
Man, people are rushing to fast judgement of this game that probably is still very early in production. We had a great (if also samey) trilogy, so let them try something new.
And get off of the whole Avengers rant, it's getting old.
Also, does "fair use" count for unreleased, confidential company ownership. I get it with a game that has been released to the public, or even a finished game prior to release, but this does not seem proper to read it out loud for profit, even if I like the crew at sacred symbols.
Lara Croft and the Temple of Osiris was a coop game, didn't worked out well.
Hopefully it's a single player game and the team is more like Mass Effect/Guardians Of The Galaxy. With Lara a bit more grown up, I hope she's dealt with her Daddy issues.
Scrap it and try again.
Yeah....this "game" is a hard pass. Especially with the whole pandering.
To be fair it was probably a very early rough script that hasn't gone through revisions and whatnot. It's too early to be throwing stones just yet at the quality of the script. As for if Lara would work well with a team I actually like the idea assuming it's not co-op or anything like that. After all as charming as Nathan Drake is his friends are just as important to why the story works for those games.
Plus Lara Croft is filthy rich. It makes sense that she would consider hiring some help every now and then!
@Casco
There have been multiple Tomb Raider games in the past with co-op so this isn't a new thing.
God I love the Streissand Effect. They should just go full parody at this point and hire Chris to do Lara's voice
I feel like maybe they do understand the Streisand Effect, and see the opportunity to get a tonne of marketing for the cost of a DMCA takedown notice
I have generally liked most of the tomb raider games and i fully expect to enjoy playing the new one when it comes out
Hope they go back to the Core Design style games - the new ones just felt like a dodgy mash up between the worst bits of Uncharted and Dragon's Lair....
@PegasusActual93 None of them have been that memorable, tough.
@Kidfried Must have confused him with Greg Miller.
Chris' performance was so funny
I won’t judge it until I see it for myself. I’ll at least give it that.
@shonenjump86 From the sound of it, go watch any Netflix action movie from the last 5 years. There, you've seen it yourself.
@Kidfried
I mean he has a very successful, well reviewed gaming podcast he runs and even owns his own small indie game studio. You can disagree with his interpretation of fair use in this case but I'd say he's doing pretty good for a "living and breathing disappointment".
Because dialogue in games have been utterly well written lately...
It's already a chore to sit through most of these sloppily written, forced cutscenes, let alone read them.
Sooo... Who cares...?
"To be honest, the writing in recent entries has been absolutely atrocious"
While I thought the three Tomb Raider reboot trilogy games were great to play, I couldn't with good conscience tell you a single plot point about any of them.
Agreed. Not a fan of the sound of a squad based TR game. Sounds like they're trying to turn a long running single player adventure romp into a GaaS micro-transaction ridden multiplayer crap-fest.
Squad based tomb raider? How is that tomb raider? Like, even slightly. Even Sully knows to stay the feck outside the tombs!
I always hoped they would make a Tomb Raider game with a more mature Lara (like the original game). A knowledgable, witty Lara with a passion for archaeology, who loves adventure and exploration.
@NEStalgia even just thinking about the ‘squad’ Lara may take with her fills me with dread.
@BritneyfR_ee I actually thought it would have been a no-brainer to have done a proper remake of the original games, but with the engine of the new one — Anniversary was close, but no cigar
@Fenbops If she brings that Nu Metal gonk from Angel of Darkness I'm going to be very disappointed — what a travesty of a misfire that was, one that's dated like fine milk.
Where exactly was Lara hiding the parachute in the scene they acted out? Those things aren't small!
The Sacred Symbols guys acted it out on the latest episode. It was hilarious. Any future voice actors that get the role will just seem subpar now.
@Andee OMG, Angel of Darkness..... Even beyond the bad game, the bad camera, the bad controls, the bad clueless puzzles, bad dead ends, and pure bad taste, the thing that haunts me the most about that game were the bad DirectX 9 nightmares on PC!
THIS YEAR
A NEW TEAM SEEKS ADVENTURE
Lara Croft...
Harrison 'Indianapolis 500' Ford-Jones..
Dora El Explorador
Nate O'Polo
@Korgon Nathan Drake and friends is kind of a "Broad Trip" buddies flick. Classic Lara is a smug, self-assured, swaggering force of nature with a hint of dominatrix. It didn't really make sense to make her a frightened little girl in the reboot, but, ok, cool origin story, building her up from frightened girl to totally desensitized walking middle finger. "Lara & buddies" doesn't really fit the character. Chloe is kind of a Lara homage, in a dialed down way, but, then, Chloe goes off and does her own thing off camera while Nate & the Bronies do theirs most of the time which kind of strengthens the point.
So this is forced lesbianism and not something legit like Ellie?
@Kidfried
Fair enough but to his credit they did put out a video with Rick Hoeg kind of explaining in more detail where he was coming from. He didn't strike me as acting unknowing or anything. Fair Use, as we have seen lately many times, is kind of a mine field to navigate so I'm not shocked he ran into something like this.
To be clear though, reading directly from the script was probably a bad idea. 😄
@Kidfried if you actually listen to the episode where they expect and on this, you would have the context of the conversation, where other developers had even said he did no wrong.
Plus Hoge Law goes in to detail explaining the intricacies of the situation.
Colin has been in the industry a long time and is now doing better than ever. The only ignorance around here seems to be from your comment as someone who no doubt isn’t in the industry.
@NEStalgia
I see what your saying but with the reboot trilogy it feels like they kind of already have tried to have Lara have some adventure buddies like Joanna. She also received help from friends in some of the later still classic style games(though you would be forgiven for not remembering that as story was never TR's strong suit). Plus the entire theme of Shadow of the Tomb Raider was her getting over not wanting to ask for help from anyone.
It just doesn't seem too farfetched to think she might hire on some help. Plus it could provide some interesting situations for puzzles!😃
@Kidfried How’s it any different than Jason Schreier & co breaking stories? These people are given the information by people that have access to it, they don’t go out & steal it. If they feel like it’s worth reporting they will.
SE & Crystal working on Tomb Raider after the sale of developer & IP is worth reporting don’t you think?
———————————————————— I downloaded the episode on Monday so I’m glad I got to listen to the ‘uncut’ version. It was hilarious, especially with Chris doing the worst Brit I have ever heard during the ‘read’. The follow up on YouTube about the DMCA might be even more hilarious & would surely be more damaging to all parties involved then just letting it be.
@SamMR And rightly so. People are tired of lead female video game characters that don't have an active male love interest, they're either lesbian or celibate to man.
Imo they last true Tomb Raider game was Underworld. The reboot trilogy wasn't bad, it just wasn't Tomb Raider
Does square enix even have the rights to the next game if they've sold off the IP before it even has a release date
@Fight_Teza_Fight reporting on copyrighted material, even including portions in the report, is perfectly fine per fair use. Performing the entirety of a script obviously fails the fair use test. It's too much of the copyrighted work and likely too close to the nature of the copyrighted work to count as fair use.
@rachetmarvel I’m just tired of forced videogame romances full stop. I can’t think of a single instance where it’s been done well, ever.
In this case they’ll say it’s because they’re being inclusive but really, it’s because when the inevitable backlash happens they can use it as an excuse to shield themselves from ANY criticism if the game happens to be rubbish or sells poorly.
It’s not that they support the cause exactly but that they can use it for their own benefit, which is kind of insulting honestly.
Thought this was genuinely hilarious when I saw it on Sacred Symbols! 😂 Shame they had to edit that part out, but I understand the reasons why.
@Milktastrophe The script was floating around between the industry for a while apparently. Also according to them they only revealed a fraction of the actual script that they had available. They did add a comedic twist to the ‘read’ which may/may not allow it to be fair use.
Having said that Shadow of the Tomb Raider was leaked because someone was working on it on public transport with their laptop.
What does that fall under?
@Kidfried Nah
Chris playing the part of Lara was one of the most genuinely funny things I've heard in a while. It was all worth it - for me at least!
@Fight_Teza_Fight sounds like that Shadow of the Tomb Raider leak probably falls under theft. Is that how the leak happened, someone stole that person's laptop?
It’s either legit…or they’re afraid it’s a better script than what they’re using. 😋
@Fight_Teza_Fight Was the Shadow of the Tomb Raider script leaked on a train? It’d fall under “fair caboose.”
@Milktastrophe Someone from the team had been working on the script for Shadow on a Subway in Montreal (Eidos Montreal worked on the game). Someone on the subway took a picture & shared it. That how the title & some of the plot points were leaked well before the reveal.
@jgrangervikings1 Yep I guess so. The Tomb Raider team certainly ain’t good at keeping secrets!
@pyrrhic_victory agreed
CD has become a trash developer at this point, like what exactly are they trying to chase here.
@Fight_Teza_Fight so it depends where it happened--I don't know about Canada's privacy laws. In some places you don't have a right to privacy in public places so people can take your pictures or pictures of your things. In some places that in itself illegal. Either way, many companies warn against or don't allow their employees to work in public places so this sort of thing doesn't happen.
Had the initial photo taker written an article reporting on the photos, that might be fair use (assuming the act of taking the photos in the first place was legal). Simply sharing the photos is likely not fair use (as it's simply the copyrighted work and not fairly used within something larger), however an actual journalist picking up those leaked photos and then reporting on them could be* fair use.
*: It depends how the material is used and could be different on a case by case basis.
Oh great! Online multiplayer co-op alarm bells ringing, so much for them tying it into the original.
@tameshiyaku Almost certainly doesn't meet the criteria of fair use - at least not under US copyright law - which is why I'm sure their lawyers told them to comply with the order to take it down.
People think "fair use" means "I want it so I can do it," but there are actually rules about it. One of those rules is that you can't use the entire work but only excerpts, and only enough of an excerpt to make your point for commentary or educational purposes. If they read the entirety of whatever script they had, that's pretty clearly NOT fair use.
I just want to go back to older times where lara mostly exploring some far off cave in mountain or ancient tomb alone, just her and her animal enemies like bat, wolf, bear, crocodile, etc. I don't want uncharted tomb raider where you have to kill people regulary.
Wait, why does Square Enix care? Even if it was a script that was written before the sale, they don't even own Tomb Raider anymore. They sold it to Embracer Group.
Lara will be seeking a team for this next challenge because she'll be too busy fighting with her new girlfriend to get anything done.
@Would_you_kindly Sales not gone through yet, this would come under protection of an impending transaction.
Lol if I was CD I'd cancel the game. They have no hope of reaching the comedic levels presented by the Sacred Symbols guys. The guys somehow managed to make that shocking writing sound interesting.
Script sounds kinda meh, hopefully the final product is alot better.
The new Tomb Raider game is bound to be ugly because it's no longer being developed by a Japanese company... too bad...
I immediatly dislike it. I am pretty sure Lara always said she works better alone.
Sounds like Shoehorned multiplayer focus.
@KilloWertz The sale isn’t finalized yet. Not a great look to have the script they’ll be getting as part of the deal leak.
@F2P-F2P It's never been developed by a Japanese company. Square Enix were the publisher after Eidos. All the developers have been British or American.
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