
Sony bigwig Jim Ryan told an audience at the PlayStation Partner Awards a few days ago that Sony has resolved PS5’s stock shortages. His message, targeted at publishing partners, added that it will be able to deliver the new-gen console to “many customers in Japan and Asia” starting “this year-end shopping season and into 2023”. Supply has been more readily available worldwide of late, although we’re not sure we’d describe the situation as resolved – anecdotally, we’re still yet to actually see a system in a shop.
Nevertheless, Ryan sounds confident, and continued his speech with an apology: “We apologise for any inconvenience and greatly appreciate your understanding and cooperation. Many fascinating titles were born in Japan and Asia in 2022, and I look forward to honouring them for their outstanding achievements today.”
While the PS5 got off to a record-breaking start, stock shortages mean it’s fallen behind the sales curve set by the PS4. The Japanese giant is confident it will catch up to and overtake its previous platform in 2023, but it’s going to need an enormous supply of hardware to achieve that. There are, of course, rumours of a revised model with a detachable disc drive arriving next year, and that may help improve its supply if accurate.
[source blog.ja.playstation.com, via twitter.com]
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It's definitely getting better but yeah until you can confidently walk into a store and buy one I wouldn't say it's "resolved". Good to hear production is going well though.
I am still waiting for the PS5 pro.
See also these latest estimations for sales numbers, Nintendo and Xbox ruled Black Friday: https://www.vgchartz.com/article/455662/global-hardware-week-47-2022/
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@colonelkilgore
Or The Joker, depending on your interests 😋
@Max_the_German
They were always going to focus on Japan though first and that's where they've outdone MS. Nintendo is always outselling everything there.
@Max_the_German
Xbox S was under £200 in Europe during Black Friday almost anywhere.
I wouldn't be surprised that selling chart was lead by Xbox S, even though they list those figures with series X together.
In the UK I can right now walk into 3 different stores and pick up PS5 Disc Edition GOWR Bundle.
Now here’s the thing this stock as been there a while for the PS5, about a week and sales have definitely slowed for the PS5.
One of my local stores had 9 in stock a few days ago and they are still there. A few months ago they would be gone before the end of one day.
Firstly I’m a big PS5 fan and of their AAA game currently playing GOWR amazing game. So I’m not baiting.
The UK seems to have very recently been selling more Switch and Series consoles. Of course Black Friday price cuts helped them. But PS5 was third in the UK for November 2022 month.
And Black Friday week third worldwide.
USA looks similar.
Is that console price increase catching up with them, when the other two keep doing good deals.
Is forcing digital game bundles like GOWR not helping console sales.
It’s like the others are catching up now and over taking the PS5, how the tide is turning slowly on Sony and not for the better.
Sony instead of enticing sales like the other two are doing the opposite, wonder if they will change their tactics next year.
@Dezzy70 this is not the correct analysis, the fact is that the xbox Consoles always do well over black Friday. For the same black Friday at the 2 year stage for the xbox one the console sold 1.2M Consoles vs. The 1.3m series x/S this time around. Thats largely the same as a Console that was a massive failure, and this time around they were helped by a sub £/$200 consols
I didn't think they were allowing sales in-stores here in the US yet. (Unless you pre-order/reserve it in some capacity.)
Until they resolve THAT pandemic-influenced choice, I wouldn't consider their woes truly addressed.
If they are allowing direct sales, it's news to me. Because I definitely have yet to see one randomly in a Target, or Walmart, or Gamestop, or Best Buy.
People also need to understand they are talking production level here, not retail level. There is a huge lag between producing Consoles and selling them to customers, months.
I still think the price still needs to come down. We are in a recession, and parents have other things to focus on. In the old days you sold the hardware at a severe loss and then made the money back with software. The PS5 needs to learn from this.
@ChrisDeku
I did say Black Friday and discounts helped.
But Switch and Xbox took the whole of the month of November as well putting PS5 in third for that whole month.
My main point was more about stock in stores of the PS5 disc edition GOWR bundle and they are not selling as quick as the were over a month or two ago. And the stock has been there for a good few days.
In other words the UK are not buying them up nowhere near as quick as they used to.
And was trying to give maybe some reasons.
Like the price increase.
That you have to buy the GOWR bundle and not the console on its own.
The other two are giving good deals, maybe even game pass.
How things are now a bit different in the UK and USA and even a little bit in Europe compared to a year ago and also in the PS4 days.
@LifeGirl
Things are definitely changing maybe due to the cost of living.
Sony have increased price and also forcing console bundles with digital games, the other two offer cost reductions and good customer deals.
They have to change their approach next year.
Nintendo have their hybrid console that just keeps selling.
Microsoft have a cheap series s alternative and game pass and trillions of dollars. I can’t believe myself Xbox are starting to do so well when they haven’t even released a top end AAA game in 2022.
Maybe it’s all changing and value for money is a big factor and not what big AAA games are released.
@Dezzy70 actually only 38% of the Consoles sold in the UK in November were the GoW bundle. There were huge amount of non-forced bundles, they just sold out instantly and left nothing but the £600 bundles, even just the GoW forced bundle on its own was sold out(curry's had only forced bundles with headsets for black Friday week for example) This gives the impression of the console being constantly available but in reality people are just waiting for non-bundles.
I'm addition the digital version is permanently sold out.
@Dezzy70 talking stock nonsense again i see.
last week you stated series X was selling better than S and flying off the shelves. yet didnt outsell the switch. tbh Black Friday figures show UK buyers are NOT rushing out to buy Xbox.
180/190 (great value) and still easily available everywhere.
@ChrisDeku
People need to get their heads out of consoles and games. For me to explain this and stop with excuses.
I was the biggest electrical Sony fanboy ever, if Sony made it I purchased Sony.
TV, Blu-ray player, amplifier you get my drift.
Now no Sony amplifier or blu ray player.
And I watching TV and playing my PS5 on an LG C2 65”, not a Sony TV.
It most electrical products Sony have slowly lost market and shrunk. Taking TVs they used to be the best and good value for money.
Now most of the time they offer less but charge more. Hence no Sony A80K but and LG C2 for me.
Third in the TV market now behind Samsung and LG.
THATS NOT WHAT I WANT TO HAPPEN TO SONY THE GAME MAKERS.
@stvevan
Totally agree with you, but Sony PS5 sales have slowed in the UK, compared to stock being stripped of shelf’s a couple of months ago in a single day.
It’s not about Xbox or Switch, it’s about the PS5 not flying off the shelves that quick anymore.
Go look online for yourself.
I can leave my house now and go to a few different stores 10 minutes drive away a pick one up. No way I could easily do that a couple of months ago, by the time I would get home from work they would all be sold easily.
There are no issues I have a PS5 disc edition playing GOWR and loving it.
My concern for Sony is their short sightedness.
They put PS5 with GOWR and other bundles to make a quick buck and make you buy a digital game. And it does cost £540.
That’s leaves less Solo Consoles for sale, which some people wait for at £480.
Over the road mum and dad can’t afford to wait and also have financial concerns.
Even though little Jonny or Amanda wanted a PS5 they are not paying £540 and the game is not the game they wanted anyway.
Look a series s £250 or Series X £450 best get them something let’s buy that then. Happened to three parents over Black Friday I know.
I said don’t do it but they did.
It’s not so much the loss of the console sale.
It’s now they are in the Xbox eco system and will probably stay there.
Had Solo PS5 disc editions been available and not GOWR bundles the PS5 solo console would have been purchased.
Think long term not a short cash and grab Sony.
@Dezzy70 you can do the same with xbox, for alot longer.
of course ps5 will be on the shelf more and more..... supply improving and people have been pretty much buying when its been available. so demand drops naturally.
xbox only managed approx 150k more sales despite being 200 cheaper. outside the USA, Xbox just isnt as popular. until they consistently out sell sony at full price, ps5 will do just fine.
@stvevan
Of course they will do fine. It’s not about PS5 Vs XBOX, it’s about Sony the company.
I would have told anyone it the 90s to go away if they mentioned another TV, Sony was my TV god.
2022 say hello to my LG C2.
It’s long term that Sony worry me about.
Best wishes to everyone who still hasn't been able to get one for themselves yet. Hopefully that's a thing of the past soon.
@stvevan
Just updated my profile picture.
My front room, don’t ever doubt my PS5 credentials. My fellow gamer.
I was able to get one last week. I now have a PS5. 👍🏾
Wow, local Argos has GoW bundle actually in-stock for home delivery at £539.99. First time since launch!
The new PS5 with the CFI-12** model number.
Which I picked one up, just because that’s me.
Seems so quiet even on its side as mine is.
Best PS5 model I have ever owned.
@Neonix
The new PS5 with the CFI-12** model number.
Which I picked one up, just because that’s me.
Seems so quiet even on its side as mine is.
Best PS5 model I have ever owned.
@Dezzy70 i never said you didnt have ps credentials.
just like xbox gave me a reason at 190 to give them another chance. they lost it after 2 red ring of death.
Um, well, I work at a very well known store, and can confidently say, sales and interest of the PS5 are still exceptionally high, Series S is also doing well, X not so much and Switch is still a license to print money. Anyways, Happy Christmas or whichever religious holidays you all take part in, and enjoy whatever gaming system you've got. Peace
@stvevan
That’s cool, I thought you thought I was an Xbox fanboy or something.
I only had one RRD back in the 360 days.
And those were the real Xbox days the 360.
It wasn’t really until the back end of the PS3 days and of course the PS4 days and now the PS5 that Sony got me truly with them.
Hopefully the series s will serve you well.
@Neonix
Not sure what fan is in my CFI-1200 but the console is whisper quiet for the first time ever.
I’m UK maybe it’s a country thing.
@Dezzy70 its a great little box so far.
biggest complaint is the controller. just feels/sounds cheap.
tried Forza and the right trigger is uncomfy to hold pressed... you can feel the plastic from the case
@stvevan
Generally found the Xbox controller ok.
I like the thumb pads off set on the controller.
I have been on an Amazon wait list for months, still checking periodically for my invite to purchase. I have only once seen a system in a store, when someone picked up a reserved unit at a Gamestop (I am in the US)
@Neonix
Dude seriously?
Why? Mine is a launch model with slight coil whine but I can’t even hear it when my sound system is on or my headphones for multiplayer games are on.
Only time I hear it is if I mute everything and turn off my surround controller/blu ray player (it has much more severe fan noise than my PS5 has) and walk over it. No way I would have sold it for a reason like that considering how lucky I was to get one on launch day.
Ultimately I feel like it’s so much quieter than the PS4 I put up with for 6 years that I can’t complain about any noise from it. Especially when I can only hear it when I create artificial silence in my house trailer. Whereas my Phat PS4 sounded like a Sukhoi-27 trying to climb into the air.
@uptownsoul
It’s thoughts that’s all. I want Sony and their games around for a long long time.
I lived through their TV decline and don’t won’t a repeat of that in the console world.
Which by the was the TV decline was their decisions that got them there, I’m sure thinking that they were above everyone else.
South Korea, who. We are Sony.
Well that is great news.
Does resolving your stock shortages include resolving scalpers buying these things up?
I'll wait for the new model. If there's a Pro then I'm opting for that as I still use my death stranding model PS4 pro and the big backlog I still have to get through. I'm fine for awhile to wait.
Plenty of stock now in Australia
with all the rumours swirling of a slim model releasing in 2023, this is perhaps the worst time to purchase a fat ps5. thanks, but no thanks.
Waiting for a Slim Variant myself, I dont really care about games that are just interactive movies from people who failed in hollywood. I'd rather play my PS3 collection.
Great news to hear! Hoping my friends are able to secure their hands on them soon.
The waiting "for Slim" gang is hilarious. Dudes, have you not learned anything from how Sony stumbled through 2020-2022. You seriously believe these dudes will release psvr2 AND a mjor revision of their flagship product in the same year? Get a grip and stop pretending like you dudes had any intention of buying any ps console.
@Dezzy70 I can see this being a slight problem for Sony going forward.
On one hand, you have a lot of PS4 owners (circa 120 million by now) whose logical upgrade path is the PS5.
However a price of £480 in the UK is still a very tough pill to swallow. And that's if you can find the console on its own as there seems to be a large amount of unwanted, overpriced bundles out there.
On Black Friday, you could buy a Series S for less than £190 (Smyths Toys, Very, etc.) or you could maybe buy a PS5 (if there was stock) for a smidge under £540 - GOW edition or extra controller. Want both? That's £600 right there.
Both play next gen games (yes, the S doesn't have all the extra spangly bits of the £450 X) and as exclusives on both Xbox and PS should be named 'elusives', what are you getting for that extra £350? Can't blame people for picking up a £190 console to play the latest FIFA, COD, etc.
I'll probably be buying a PS5 as and when I can be bothered (probably the redesign as the current one is far too ugly and way oversized). I have a LOT of hours and games invested in the Sony eco-system, but I feel no rush and Sony's current management and their decisions have me wondering. Never thought I'd be thinking that way after owning a PS system all the way back to the original.
It's semi-solved, at least here in the UK. Many stores like Amazon, John Lewis, The Game Collection, Hughes, Very, AO, Box etc. are either sold out, only have large bundles OR are by request.
A few like Game, Argos & Currys do have stock of the base unit, or with just one game like GOW:R. But the average consumer may not shop around as much and find these.
@Neonix Honestly it just sounds like you have a very low tolerance to fan noise. That's not a criticism by the way, we are what we are. My old flatmate had exactly the same thing and together we built him a PC that was effectively silent as it bugged him so much when I could barely hear it.
Have you considered just sourcing your own fan? It's a very simple replacement that may be easier in the long run that buying and returning 5+ PS5's.
Yes Series X is quieter but that doesn't change the fact that the PS5 fan is still really quiet for such a powerful console. In a completely quiet room with the TV muted yes it is just about audible to most people, true. But as soon as you have a game playing audio through speakers it becomes effectively inaudible.
Simple truth is this just isn't an issue for the vast majority of people.
@sanderson72
Thank you, someone here talking the business side of things and understanding it and not super defending Sony the company.
Me I can’t resist the PlayStation exclusives like HFW, GOWR etc. hence my PS5.
Outside of those amazing games, console and company wise Sony need to stop making quick cash grabs with forced digital game bundles and think long term strategy.
Sell the solo console get more gamers I got you new console and eco system.
As much I as dare say this in here, if Microsoft keep going with Xbox they are gonna have probably the only eco system.
@sanderson72
My point has been and I have checked, those PS5 disc edition bundles GOWR are still in the shop waiting to sell.
Had they been just the console no bundle they would have sold. Another gamer in the PS5 eco system.
Instead in the meantime, some will wait it out, but some will not and someone needs a present for Christmas. Here’s come the Switch, Series s or x that got an opportunity purchase.
One more in their eco system that will probably last the whole generation.
Sony are money grabbing with digital bundles and it’s now slowed down sales wise. For one I’m pleased and hopefully they will change that.
Sony are not thinking long term and money grabbing short term, not good.
And as usual, the biggest closet Xbot (right next to darth) over on N4G orchard needs you to know that PS5 has been in easy supply the past 12 months.
And he is going to take up 20% of the entire comments on the topic to let you know lol.
But then they go invisible on a 343i or Halo Infinite article for some reason.
@uptownsoul
Just stock moving slower off the shelves than it normally would. That’s all. And it’s always a good coal face indication.
I’m AAA PS5 gamer, so I’m not fanboy hating.
Just observing that’s all.
Example 9 GOWR Disc Edition PS5 bundles, still there 4 days later. Was not like that a month or 2 ago. They would have gone in less than a day.
So it’s a slow down, as simple as that. Right at the shop level buyer coal face.
@uptownsoul @Dezzy70 While % figures can be useful, they're a bit meaningless when no actual volume of sales values are specified.
I would say that the PS5 is getting easier to find (and therefore buy - hence the large % increase) but ShopTo have had those 3 bundles on their site for weeks now and they're all still in stock whereas they would've all gone in a matter of minutes/hours before?
Perhaps the £540 to £600 price tag is a little too high in the current climate when an old gen or cheaper new gen can play all the new COD & FIFA releases? Be interesting to see the sales figures after Christmas.
@uptownsoul
They are replenished but you can tell when etc.
can’t see what your issue is with a slight slowdown of PS5 GOWR Disc Edition bundle sales. It’s because some general public don’t want that game and can’t afford £540.
I extremely enjoy PS5 and their AAA games, but admit to the slow down in sales and reasons for it.
@uptownsoul
Let’s agree to dis agree. I can see the stock there now not sold for nearly a week now.
As where about 2 months ago it would have sold in a day. That’s slow down of demand, for whatever reason. That all the evidence I need.
But let’s agree to dis agree.
@uptownsoul
If 9 consoles sold out it one day.
But now 9 consoles don’t sell in one week.
Then that is a slow down in demand.
That is clear and fact. Simple as that.
@uptownsoul
I keep saying they have not replenished that stock.
But to update we have just sold 2 today
So 9 in stock went down to 7, two sold in about one week.
That’s is a slow down from about a month ago when we would have sold the 9 in one day.
It’s so simple, when you are standing there selling them. Do you get it now.
Location Greater London UK.
@uptownsoul
And just to show I’m not an Xbox fan boy or anything and to massage your PS5 ego.
We restocked series x after Black Friday which did sell well over Black Friday with the £430 price tag dropped by £20. We have not sold once since
So PS5 disc edition GOWR bundle is winning by 2 console sold to zero Series X in one week.
Hope you happy now.
@uptownsoul
Well you enjoy Games Industry Biz data.
I will enjoy the most up to date data you can get this week at my coal face. Not more real than that.
PS. It’s not just my store but others as well, I can see it in their stock data base. The same with Xbox as well. I don’t bother with the Switch.
@uptownsoul
And just to give you some really consumer information.
It’s the price and the fact it’s a forced digital game bundle GOWR.
If it was a solo disc edition they would have sold by now.
Sony cash grabbing instead of thinking long term.
@uptownsoul
If you say so, I’m off for a bit of GOWR now and take my brain to one the greatest AAA ever made.
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