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@JesWood13 maybe but I'm not lying

@lacerz I just heard about those awards today honestly. The only one I knew were the Geoff I ones you know the ones that are a joke.

So I'm curious how many people voted? Well it said presented by gamesradar+

@WallyWest yes that's the whole point buddy. On MC is has 121 critics reviews (113 positive and 8 mixed) huh weirdly enough no negative 🤷🏾‍♂️. Okay then user ratings have 147,006 ratings( 75645 positive,7542 mixed and 63819 negative) keep in mind metacritic removed negative ratings.

So your telling me that 121 critics reviews speaks for all the almost 150000 user ratings? See this is my point the game journalist are so out of touch with the gaming community. So the few "elite" outweigh the rest? Come on buddy.

I just realized the golden joystick exist and I'm sure I'm not the only one. So again how many people voted in this awards? 150,000? 200,000??

Yes I do realize , my favorite film of all time is blade runner. Nobody understood it and it's the greatest sci-fi movie ever. But go ahead and play last of us 1 and see how part 2 doesn't live up to it. They should've left it alone it had a perfect ending. Yes props to ND for doing something new but it didn't pay off.

@WallyWest yeah you forgot the whole presented by gamesradar+. Now it makes sense that joke of a gaming site is the one behind this game awards.

Sorry to break to you but shill media doesn't determine what the game community thinks. Dude if the game awards has been a joke for years and is more well known than this one, well this is a even bigger joke. So according to this "prestigious awards" fortnite is better than God of war cause the fanboys flocked the site.

Well guess only last of us 2 fanboys voted. See this is why metacritic is more reliable and has way more credibility. Its more mainstream more people will give their opinion not like a shill media game event like this were only the few that are aware voted.

@TG16_IS_BAE Dude in 2018 this same show gave Fortnite game of the year over God of War I'm not joking. 0 credibility.

@WallyWest how many people voted? This is the first time I've heard about the golden joysticks awards. Doing some research in 2018 this golden joysticks awards gave Fortnite game of the year over God of War let that sink in. This just proofs the weight of these awards. I didn't mind Joel getting killed actually I expected it. The game should be awarded in the areas that deserve it like visuals and accessibility. But when you award a narrative that doesn't resonate with ith fanbase you know something is fishy.

This just shows how these types of game awards have 0 credibility. The gaming journalists are so out of touch and this just proves it. It doesn't matter if you love the game or hated it, the cold fact is this game is divise. Fracture the fanbase of the franchise. I know Metacritic is not a good method of measure but that thing has more credibility than any game awards. A game that has a user score of 5.7 cannot be awarded game of the year. Don't get me the "It got review bombed" because it went both ways and the sad thing is those who gave Last of Us 2 a 10 gave Ghost a 0. Still, after all that and all the bad reviews, Metacritic removed it still sits at a 5.7.

Jim Ryan actually addressed the backlash a few days ago in a GQ article and in a professional way admitted it was not the hit that Last of us 2 fanboys want you to believe.

So at the end of the day this game can win all the awards it wants heck it can even win the Oscars. But that won't wash away the bad taste it left on not a minority of people but a huge group of people.

Also, this site is way too biased to anything Sony/Playstation related. I've been a PlayStation fan all my life but I don't worship everything they make. They seemed to ignore legit criticism of this game. I adore the first game, but Part 2 basically destroyed that game. I thought this site was different but then again what can I expect 🤷🏾‍♂️.

I'm actually rooting for Last of us 2 to win game of the year at the game awards, cause the backlash will huge and just prove that gaming journalists are so out of touch.

That game is not even worth 30 bucks, maybe the mediocre sells might go up.

As long as it sticks to the first game I see a lot of potencial. Although the whole zombie apocalypse has been played to death on tv in recent though. The first game has a simple story and the execution was flawless. Honestly, it has a perfect ambiguous ending too. The game didn't need a sequel.

If they adapt part 2 it will be game of thrones season 8 all over again. Or maybe who knows they can put their own spin and maybe fix the atrocious pacing and narrative structure the second game has. Heck, they could even make Abby a sympathetic character and actually give her a proper character introduction.

But then again Neil is involved so I have low expectations for this.

Haven't people heard of the virtue of patience? Your not missing out on something special.

@Texan_Survivor have you seen the laughable jury ? All the typical 🤡 from the gaming community.

@DotM what I found hilarious is that they don't admit that there was positive review bombing and all that effort made the user score go to 5.7 😂. Also the same persons that gave 10/10 gave ghost 0/10

@NDL08 It's not my problem that your counter-argument is weak and without proof. If you are gonna argue with someone you better be ready to back up your points. Doesn't matter when I created my account. What I need a badge or something you have to post my opinion with valid criticism? You don't bother to argue because you still haven't counter-argue my points.

I'll give a final example maybe you might get the point take a look at star war the last Jedi grossed 200 million its opening weekend (critics loved it by the way) which was huge then after word of mouth got out at the end of the day it did 1.3 billion. But you might say 1.3 billion is a lot, but it divided the fan base and it was considered a failure after force did 2 billion. That movie and this game are very similar both divided their core audience.

So giving the last of us part 2 game of the year, best narrative nomination when the game divides its fan base and where a huge group of people hates the game and when there are better other options is actually laughable.

@NDL08 yeah I did and do you care to elaborate on whats the date on the article? Yes liked I've told you it had an outstanding launch but just because it shipped 4 million doesn't equal that it sold 4 million. People kept uploading images about the game sitting on stores for months. I don't how to post images here otherwise I would show you a collection of those.

So if it's selling like hotcakes like you say why hasn't naught dog, sony, or heck even this site? publishes stories about selling incredibly well after the launch. Don't you think after a few months this game would easily reach at least 8 million if it launched with 4 million?

You are the one that keeps missing the point I'm not comparing Spider-man as a brand, I'm comparing the 2018 game. Spider-man games had been mediocre for a while. The first last of us sold like 17 million that's a huge fanbase so don't giving the last of us is not a powerhouse brand in the gaming department.

Nobody is talking about drops. At the end of the day legs is what matters, your game can have the greatest launch in history but if it did go well with its core audience it will die off like this game. Maybe a ps5 release might do something only the persons that liked it might double-dip, but still, that won't wash away the bad taste it left.

@LiterallyDoNotCare after you sire

@LiterallyDoNotCare yeah an outdated article, yes the game had an outstanding launch, and coming off the success of the first it completely normal. But I'm talking about the legs, the game after launch. It's not doing well. Just go check the ps store top 20 after July it fell off.

@UltimateOtaku91 I agree that the game had a great launch, but that doesn't mean it will have legs after. But last of us 2 came off of one the most beloved and acclaimed ps exclusive ever. No other ps4 exclusive has had that much hype. The first game sold actually 17 million so it has a huge install base. The last of us 2 is a technical masterpiece but other than that is meh. Ghost really deserves it.

@NDL08 And yet you keep missing the point it's about the legs of a game. Yes, but God of war, Spider-man, Uncharted 4, Witcher 3, Sekiro were well received by users. And those games have legs that why they keep selling. Ghost in October climbed back up in the top 20. The last of us hasn't been in the top 20 since July, that's 3 months after launching which is a sign that people just don't like the game, maybe if they decided to release factions it might appear again.

Learn how to read the 15 million came after a should, I mentioned it to establish that a game with that much hype and coming off of the success of the original should be selling like hotcakes. Stop spinning the narrative of the argument. And we can compare the last of us 2 and Spider-man as both are ps exclusives. And as a ps exclusive last of us 2 is had more hype than spider-man ps4.

I giving you actual charts from the ps store which is where you expect the last of us 2 to do the best in terms of selling. The game can have all the critics(nobody takes them seriously) praise it wants but if it doesn't resonate well with its core audience it won't have legs and die off.

So trying to white knight this game like you after being presented with valid arguments, you're the one that reeks desperation. I'm not crying about the game, in fact, I actually want it to win as the backlash will be huge and fun.

@DeadManInBlack I couldn't agree more with you. Ghost really deserves game of the year. It was better written and way more fun than last of us 2. What the fanboys doesn't understand it the game didn't resonate with all it's fanbase.

@NDL08 "no game should "easily" sell 15 million after 6 months" this is you. You are getting called out. GTA v actually out sold last of us 2 in the month of September if you cared to look at the top 20 you'll know what I'm taking about. A 7 year old game outselling the most hyped PS4 exclusive.

Spider-man PS4 by the end of the 2018 sold 9 millions copies 🤷🏾‍♂️. Yes because we can compare spider-man 3 the movie game with the last of us?

Geez I don't know spider-man reaching 20 million and being actually loved by users and critics alike? You tell me if it's a flop.

I'm a PlayStation fan but I'm not gullible fanboy like you, so then again who is the desperate one?

@LiterallyDoNotCare according to the npd it's Madden 21.

@NDL08 GTA v sold 7.2 million on ps3 it's opening week....... Spider-man just reached 20 million let that sink in , just imagined if it was released for xbox and PC? Spider-man maybe a household name but not at gaming level like last of us is well was . Spider-man has had trash games before.Spider-man was praised by critics and fans alike not like last of us 2. Learn how to read I said should do you know what that means? Yeah you don't care about the links because the truth upsets you. Coming from the website that made the game.

@LiterallyDoNotCare then again why haven't we had any news about milestone sales? Well I hate to break it to you but the game doesn't have legs.

@LiterallyDoNotCare I used the sentence as "it should have easily sold" the PS4 with an install base of over 100 millions, the most hyped game of all the generation. Coming off one of the greatest ps exclusive of all time? Maybe 15 million no? But shattered every possible record

@NDL08 stop spinning the narrative. Yes they have drops but successful games have legs which this game doesn't. It had a great launch because it came of one the most critically and universally acclaim games of all time. Also learn how to read I said it "should have easily sold 15 million" because of the hype of this game. If it was a good game like the first I'll actually think it might have done it. Learn how to read it all about the legs of the game. So the top 20 ps store download I just mentioned you I pulled it out of arse? Huh? Why haven't we got a news about a milestone just like ghost crossed 5 million and Spider-man hitting 20 million? Last of us 2 was supposed to be the swan song of the PS4 and instead was a meh exclusive.

@NDL08 well care to give me how many units have the game sold? I gladly accept it, I'm not like others. I can give you the links for the top 20 downloads of ps store since the game launch dropped after July one month from launch. This game was the game of PS4 it should have sold easy 15 million copies by end of the year. It was a massive dissapointment.

https://blog.playstation.com/2020/07/08/playstation-store-junes-top-downloads-5/

https://blog.playstation.com/2020/08/06/playstation-store-julys-top-downloads-5/

https://blog.playstation.com/2020/09/11/playstation-store-augusts-top-downloads-4/

https://blog.playstation.com/2020/10/09/playstation-store-septembers-top-downloads-5/

https://blog.playstation.com/2020/11/10/playstation-store-octobers-top-downloads-5/.

@Nepp67 exactly the poor pacing and the story structure is what really kills the narrative.

@Col_McCafferty what can't handle an opinion that doesn't match yours?

@Col_McCafferty you should look in a mirror first buddy. 🙃

The games awards and Geoff Keighley are a joke and have been for most of the time. Geoff will do anything for that "sony access".

The Last of us 2 aside from technical aspects should not be nominated for anything else. This game is hated not disliked hated by half its fanbase. The game is a commercial flop, besides the 4 million games shipped after launch no news about how many copies were sold. Take into account that copies shipped does not equal copies sold. I actually think ghost might have outsold it by now.

Also, I find it hilarious that the last of 2 fanboys think that even if it wins game of year it will suddenly wash away the bad taste or increase the sales of the game.

If you are being an objective person you'll notice the story is really bad. I managed to find these 11 problems very jarring

1. It’s made for the wrong target audience the tone is abysmal.
2. A bad rising action.
3. A poorly used midpoint.
4. Abby’s story lacks direction.
5. there is no sense of urgency.
6. largely pointless flashbacks.
7. Ellie and Joel's relationship is largely unexplored.
8. Abby and Ellie need more sympathetic motivation.
9. Ellie has no arc.
10. Poor character verisimilitude.
11. The supporting cast doesn’t work.