Jonny

So every moderately well reviewed indie game will be on PS+ before a single "AAA" title?

Not that I could care less because I put AAA in inverted commas there for a reason but Sony are really opening up themselves for attack.

The price isn't that bad if you enjoy and grinding and playing the same levels over and over and over and over again like the fans of Destiny do. It's probably excellent value to them.

To the rest of us that prefer our content to remain fresh not so much.

@xmeadx

£12.50 each? Bungie have confirmed they're £20 each separately or £35 quid for the season pass. How did you get it for £25 exactly (Legitimately curious here as I may be open to buying it for that price)

Agreed Sammy

So 20 quid for

3 story missions
2 Strikes
1 Raid
3 PvP maps.

Thanks but no thanks, I really wanted to like Destiny but as solid as the gameplay was I just didn't enjoy playing the same maps over and over again with friends online just to get better loot...not to mention to farming, good lord the farming.

Funnily enough the one thing I enjoyed most was probably PVP which is being short changed in this expansion.

Unable to connect to the store here, I'd like to say it's a surprise but I figured issues today were inevitable.

@noodleking1987 I'm fairly certain there is a youtube app going by the article above this one on the main page.

So this seems to work in all games as standard at launch? (I remember certain games weren't too fond of custom Soundtracks on PS3 just and blocked them)

@Get2sammyB Oh, well I'm hopeful it won't stay that way forever anyway, it'd be like leaving money on the table.

I've never played a single GTA game in my life yet I'm considering breaking that rule for this.

I assume lumping everything together cuts back on testing and even more stability updates than usual?

There's another key difference between PS4 and PS3 though: The PS3 didn't have a small list of things that fans wanted that was possible on the previous gen. Whether or not they are possible on the new system aside (I'm unsure if they are or not or how awkward they'd be but lets face it - most of the people complaining don't care) when you've a list of features "missing" from your console that the last generation had it doesn't look good to fans when you go months without adding anything to it.

I'd rather have a new feature as it's ready, it's a cool little extra thing to play with more often.

@Rjejr

As much as I love my Wii U and think it's got some fantastic games the casual and underpowered perception of it means I can't see it ever being a viable threat to PS4/XB1 regardless of cost. I'd love to be wrong though.

@Get2sammyb

To be honest I'd like to see MS get a few hits in, if only because competition is healthy for everyone. At the very least it'd make Sony up their game.

I'll admit the "issue" is overblown to a point with it's accompanying memes but I can count at least 3 days since release when me and my friends couldn't get on Destiny when we wanted to, a drop in the ocean in comparison to the wider scale of things maybe but even then it's still unacceptable for me if I'm paying for PS+.

Not to mention the maintenance window often being during peak gaming time in the UK, but we haven't had one of those in a while thankfully.

Having the PSN be consistent and reliable would be a start, I'm telling my friends that haven't got a next gen console yet to get an XB1 if they play online often because it's significantly less likely to have issues..