There is no logical reason for this other than to strong arm people into getting a more recent system... Yet I guarantee you're all finding excuses for Sony in here.
Another iterative "Upgrade"... Half a grand and under the curve of current PC gaming tech and utterly unecessary since streaming is now an entirely viable replacement...
I'd say this is the very least exciting edition. There is nothing to be in anticipation of. Nothing is promised or given. It's just more cost.
They've seen that saying less gets better results when announced.
If they wait too long there may not be a market for gaming hardware any more 😆
Seriously, though, I do not care one bit what exclusives they gain. Unless they have a true hardware inovation available I am very happy with Stadia from here on in.
Scrap the whole bonkers idea and focus on streaming. I'd be more than happy buying exclusives from their platform, if they can sort out PS Now's rather sluggish responses, and even subbing for perks but when I've got the option to play games without buying a pricey console?... Well I'm sorry I just don't get the point tbh.
Right... But what about ALL the games on the catalogue. If you can stream some you can stream them all... Meaning we don't need a new console... Meaning you're paying them for NOTHING... Work it out kids. This is a fleecing and a half going on here. COMMIT, Sony, give it up!
A desperate attempt to add something that digital streaming can't provide? Truth or No I think I'll get by in gaming for the rest of my life without ... bio feedback!? 🤣
Well of course it will. New ideas take a long time to sink in for normies.
You'll regret it. A year or two and you'll be wondering if the occasional exclusive was really worth a wopping £500 investment.
Streaming is moving fast guys. The only reason this Holiday 2020 system is being rushed is due to this... They know they don't have time t waste. They want to sell this to you NOW or you'll, likely, be questioning the point of it by Christmas.
More expense, more proprietary hardware... They're running in the opposite direction of all trends... You all have a perfectly great portable, internet connected, screen.
Sony, however, don't have the infrastructure of Google and can't make a streaming service half as good... So this is their solution. Buy yet more hardware and screens for the job in order to do it offline and downloaded...
They're desperate. They don't know what to do.
I don't think I ever expected it to run poorly on anything. Although it looks very impressive it's hardly much better than other AAA titles of recent years... Just different. May you have many hours of fun hideously mutilating, extorting and bloodgeoning the citizens of Night City ... I guuueess!??? 😟🤮
You may dismiss it but I give it 2 years maximum and you'll all be streaming half your collection and lamenting the purchase of a PS5. Or, very likely, a quantity will be very angrily digging in and insisting download and playing native is best... Just as you did (and a few still do) about physical... Despite the vast majority of your game being updates and patches 🤣
Big surprise there. I mean... They have to run around like headless chickens and formulate some reason for you all to buy a powerful console while, at the same time, also push a competent streaming platform and justify you buying that power when you have absolutely no need for it... It's a tricky one .....🤣
But we can never trust them to produce what they show in these demos in the final product anyway.
Games demos already look no better or worse than what they show here and yet somehow we expect this new £500 box to deliver where current tech has not?
I don't doubt there is some measure of improvement but do we need it this early? No! Is the improvement worth the money? Again no! ... We're being wripped off.
I'm moving to Stadia and done with Playstation at this point.
No intention of buying one at this stage. I have a maddening amount of titles to catch up on. I have a cheaper alternative for non PS5 exclusives and (unless theres some serious price drop and absolute must have titles) really just can't justify shelling out for yet another minutely iterative device. I am officially done. They've taken the piss one time too many. We have a better option now.
What drugs is this writer on? "Its influence has waned"? Not at all! You're all talking about it aren't you? I vividly recall a LOT of talk about Nintendo stepping down being a step backwards. Now it conveniently isn't? 🤣 You will ALL be watching the show with or without Sony. It's about the games and developers, not the machines... If anything has waned it's people's taste for upgrades and constant expense. We want the games. We don't want to have to keep spending a ransom just to be able to play them.
@Porco well PS now sucks, i would agree.. i gave the trial a go. The latency was very noticeable and artefacts and juddering were frequent (the same as remote play which is on your own internet upload instead of their service) ... Stadia, on the same internet connection, works great for me. I only use my Pro when i have to. Ive a few games i want to finish... I wont be buying a PS5 though. Keep the exclusives. If Sony dont fall in line with trends itll be very tempoaray exclusives i can promise you.
Just makes me trust them less... Everyone else is moving on with Streaming. Sony want you to fork out 100s for their souped up proprietary equipment and peripherals... just like always. Its what they do and ive had enough.
The first gets very dry and very tricky (through low effort enemy spamming) at the end. pretty frustrating. The rest are pretty good. Personally I'd skip them and play some more recent games. They're overated. Prime PS Plus material. You know. Not dire, something you'd pick up when on offer.
Uncharted collection is quite good. I played most of it and already own it. Goat Simulator, however, is an utter insult. Pointless flapping about. Originally a joke PC "game" meant for a couple of quid. Why it came to console is beyond me. Resenting PSPlus more than ever right now. Very little on the subscription feels worth while now yet I need it for Monster Hunter Multiplayer and ONLY that. How about dropping Multiplayer from the sub now eh Sony?
Games leave the service?... Well now I definitely know buffet subscriptions aren't for me. Even if they got the quality of the streams sorted out, this whole model of titles popping in and out seems very unappealing. Not to mention the sheer volume of tat among the few good games.
No. For the first time I'm seriously resentful that I have to pay this in order to play Monster Hunter with my friend on the odd occasion. I don't want to pay for PS plus again. It's a huge rip off.
It looks Dark, Dismal and Depressing to me. You just like what you like but I think Stadia came at the right time for me. Better cost and games more suited to my taste. Less... distopia... It's been done to DEATH now. And let's be honest, life's getting to that point already, we don't need it in our games too.
Two Blu-ray disks... After all the incredible, long, and detailed experiences we've played on the PS4 We are supposed to accept that the Midgar content alone covers two whole disks?... They're lying. I think I know why too. Ok remember being very surprised I had only just started the game once I got out of Midgar... How would they create that feeling again when many of us know the plot? Though it may not be the entire story I'm willing to bet money it goes all the way up to... Oooh... Some kind of tragedy I expect.
Arghh I'm freaking out with nostalgia. Looks, and sounds, gorgeously faithful. Thank god they didn't hold out for PS5. Shan't be buying that white elephant.
Easy because it is literally an upgraded PS4. You are all being royally had. And when they move to streaming within this systems term and you all get lured into buying a bunch of your titles through their own walled garden that requires the latest PSwhatever to use it... you will all wonder why you spent £500 on a system when you could have spent nothing, used Stadia Base and be able to play your games on almost any screen with an internet connection and never ever have to worry about compatibility or upgrades ever again. Instead... you all jump on the silly band wagon and hate... your poor wallets.
More and more this PS5 is looking to be a subtle improvement and not a major upgrade. More power but no change.
Fine by me.
And pointless.
Very likely you'll have some dual compatability titles (with a suitably jarring downgrade for the PS4 version to encourage you to upgrade) with more PS5 exclusives later as the power required becomes PS4 prohibitive.
I am DONE being played by "upgrades". No more.
I would rather do streaming and play on anything. After using Stadia I see no sense spending 100s on hardware ever again.
Sony are flailing but for none of the reasons posted here. Give it time. Perhaps they'll jump the shark. I THINK Microsoft are fairly quietly doing it. Sony seem to be focusing on VR... Ouch...
@nessisonett it's an amazing looking JRPG, Platinum were involved in the art and animation. The IP is Granblue. If that alone doesn't grab you then I'd suggest GTA dear.
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Re: Ubisoft Will Be Paying People to Play Ghost Recon: Breakpoint Next
Awwww... Unisoft realise that times are changing and invest with Stadia and now the Sony crew try to throw them under the bus... Cute.
Good luck kids. I hear high towers can be very dangerous.
Re: PS3 Says Goodbye to Messages from Other PlayStation Consoles This June
There is no logical reason for this other than to strong arm people into getting a more recent system...
Yet I guarantee you're all finding excuses for Sony in here.
Re: PS5 Is 'The Most Exciting Hardware in 20 Years'
What a hysterical line.
Another iterative "Upgrade"... Half a grand and under the curve of current PC gaming tech and utterly unecessary since streaming is now an entirely viable replacement...
I'd say this is the very least exciting edition. There is nothing to be in anticipation of. Nothing is promised or given. It's just more cost.
Re: Talking Point: Why Isn't Sony Saying More About PS5?
They've seen that saying less gets better results when announced.
If they wait too long there may not be a market for gaming hardware any more 😆
Seriously, though, I do not care one bit what exclusives they gain. Unless they have a true hardware inovation available I am very happy with Stadia from here on in.
Re: Talking Point: PS5 Could Be Delayed, And We May Have to Accept That
Scrap the whole bonkers idea and focus on streaming. I'd be more than happy buying exclusives from their platform, if they can sort out PS Now's rather sluggish responses, and even subbing for perks but when I've got the option to play games without buying a pricey console?... Well I'm sorry I just don't get the point tbh.
Re: Japan Says Final Fantasy X Is the Best Game in the Series
Though I do like 10 very much a vehemently disagree with that... Er... Finding.
Re: Sony Confirms Massive PS Now Update with Control, Shadow of the Tomb Raider, Wolfenstein 2
Right... But what about ALL the games on the catalogue.
If you can stream some you can stream them all... Meaning we don't need a new console... Meaning you're paying them for NOTHING...
Work it out kids. This is a fleecing and a half going on here.
COMMIT, Sony, give it up!
Re: Rumour: PS4 Firmware Update 7.50 Beta Incoming
Ah yes... The "Make everything feel a little inferior so you think the next console is super awesome in comparison" update.
Re: Granblue Fantasy Versus Finally Gets a European Release Date, Premium Edition Cancelled
Oh no, America still gets a premium. Of COURSE America still gets a premium. Can't have a our dear friends missing out can we... F*** me 🙄
Language please - Quintumply
Re: PS5 Controller Will Track Your Heart Rate and Sweat Secretion, Suggests Patent
A desperate attempt to add something that digital streaming can't provide?
Truth or No I think I'll get by in gaming for the rest of my life without ... bio feedback!?
🤣
Re: PS5 Will Ship 6 Million Units in Just a Few Months, Analyst Predicts
Well of course it will.
New ideas take a long time to sink in for normies.
You'll regret it. A year or two and you'll be wondering if the occasional exclusive was really worth a wopping £500 investment.
Streaming is moving fast guys. The only reason this Holiday 2020 system is being rushed is due to this... They know they don't have time t waste. They want to sell this to you NOW or you'll, likely, be questioning the point of it by Christmas.
Re: Final Fantasy VII Remake Box Confirms the Game Is 100GB in Size
Just Midgar?... Two Blurays?...Think about that for a moment... After all the games we've had on one, and it's one city!?... I don't buy it.
Re: ANTHEM Still Has Christmas Decorations as BioWare Remains Silent on Future Plans
@Paranoimia ah but where is the cruelty coming from is the question....
Re: ANTHEM Still Has Christmas Decorations as BioWare Remains Silent on Future Plans
I played the demo. Not entirely sure what all the fuss was about with the pointing and laughing. It seemed solid enough. But I had other plans.
Re: Granblue Fantasy Versus Sales Are Off to a Good Start in Japan and Asia
They're be even better if it launched everywhere at once!
Re: Granblue Fantasy Versus Finally Gets a Western Release Date in March 2020
"As for Europe"... Typical... "Oh yes, you exist too" American attitude ~_~''
Re: Sony Wants to Know if You Want PS4 Remote Play on Nintendo Switch, Portable DualShock Controller
More expense, more proprietary hardware... They're running in the opposite direction of all trends... You all have a perfectly great portable, internet connected, screen.
Sony, however, don't have the infrastructure of Google and can't make a streaming service half as good... So this is their solution. Buy yet more hardware and screens for the job in order to do it offline and downloaded...
They're desperate. They don't know what to do.
Re: Dev Responds to Rumours That Cyberpunk 2077 Was Delayed Because It Runs Badly on PS4 and Xbox One
I don't think I ever expected it to run poorly on anything. Although it looks very impressive it's hardly much better than other AAA titles of recent years... Just different.
May you have many hours of fun hideously mutilating, extorting and bloodgeoning the citizens of Night City ... I guuueess!??? 😟🤮
Re: Yeah, That Rumoured 5th February PS5 Reveal Event Ain't Happening
You may dismiss it but I give it 2 years maximum and you'll all be streaming half your collection and lamenting the purchase of a PS5. Or, very likely, a quantity will be very angrily digging in and insisting download and playing native is best... Just as you did (and a few still do) about physical... Despite the vast majority of your game being updates and patches 🤣
Re: Yeah, That Rumoured 5th February PS5 Reveal Event Ain't Happening
Big surprise there.
I mean... They have to run around like headless chickens and formulate some reason for you all to buy a powerful console while, at the same time, also push a competent streaming platform and justify you buying that power when you have absolutely no need for it...
It's a tricky one
.....🤣
Re: Bluepoint Games' PS5 Project 'Aims to Define the Visual Benchmark' for Next-Gen
But we can never trust them to produce what they show in these demos in the final product anyway.
Games demos already look no better or worse than what they show here and yet somehow we expect this new £500 box to deliver where current tech has not?
I don't doubt there is some measure of improvement but do we need it this early? No! Is the improvement worth the money? Again no! ... We're being wripped off.
I'm moving to Stadia and done with Playstation at this point.
Re: Poll: How Much Does PS5 Backwards Compatibility Matter to You?
No intention of buying one at this stage. I have a maddening amount of titles to catch up on. I have a cheaper alternative for non PS5 exclusives and (unless theres some serious price drop and absolute must have titles) really just can't justify shelling out for yet another minutely iterative device.
I am officially done.
They've taken the piss one time too many.
We have a better option now.
Re: No, PS5 Backwards Compatibility with PS3, PS2, and PS1 Games Has Not Been Confirmed
So it's another Pro with a hard line of compatability then... I see... No I'm out.
There's cheaper options.
Re: Little Town Hero Ditches Nintendo Switch Exclusivity for PS4 Release
Forgot about this one.
Knock yourselves out PS fans
Re: Google Stadia Will Pay to Delay 10 Games on PS4
Seriously?
Hahahahahahahahahahahaha
You guys will try anything.
Sure.
It's Google's fault.
The desperation is hilarious.
Re: Sony and PlayStation Will Not Be at E3 2020
What drugs is this writer on? "Its influence has waned"?
Not at all!
You're all talking about it aren't you?
I vividly recall a LOT of talk about Nintendo stepping down being a step backwards. Now it conveniently isn't? 🤣
You will ALL be watching the show with or without Sony.
It's about the games and developers, not the machines...
If anything has waned it's people's taste for upgrades and constant expense.
We want the games. We don't want to have to keep spending a ransom just to be able to play them.
Re: Microsoft Says Sony Is Doing a 'Fantastic Job' with PlayStation
So desperate to preserve the hardware buying ethos that they're now leaping into bed with each other.
The desperation is palpable 🤣
Re: Sony Bosses Descend on San Francisco as PS5 Reveal Looms
One gigantic meh bubble of shruginess.
"Here's our overpriced monster box, kids! Are you hyped? Are you super excited? Welp.... Pay up!"
Nu-uh
Re: There Will Be Exclusives You Can Only Play on PS5
@Porco well PS now sucks, i would agree.. i gave the trial a go. The latency was very noticeable and artefacts and juddering were frequent (the same as remote play which is on your own internet upload instead of their service) ... Stadia, on the same internet connection, works great for me. I only use my Pro when i have to. Ive a few games i want to finish... I wont be buying a PS5 though. Keep the exclusives. If Sony dont fall in line with trends itll be very tempoaray exclusives i can promise you.
Re: There Will Be Exclusives You Can Only Play on PS5
Just makes me trust them less...
Everyone else is moving on with Streaming. Sony want you to fork out 100s for their souped up proprietary equipment and peripherals... just like always. Its what they do and ive had enough.
Re: Soapbox: Why You Must Play Uncharted: The Nathan Drake Collection While It's Free on PS Plus
The first gets very dry and very tricky (through low effort enemy spamming) at the end. pretty frustrating. The rest are pretty good. Personally I'd skip them and play some more recent games. They're overated.
Prime PS Plus material. You know. Not dire, something you'd pick up when on offer.
Re: Poll: Are You Happy with Your PlayStation Plus Games for January 2020?
Uncharted collection is quite good. I played most of it and already own it.
Goat Simulator, however, is an utter insult.
Pointless flapping about. Originally a joke PC "game" meant for a couple of quid. Why it came to console is beyond me.
Resenting PSPlus more than ever right now. Very little on the subscription feels worth while now yet I need it for Monster Hunter Multiplayer and ONLY that.
How about dropping Multiplayer from the sub now eh Sony?
Re: Xbox Game Pass Adds GTA5 the Day After It Leaves PS Now
Games leave the service?... Well now I definitely know buffet subscriptions aren't for me. Even if they got the quality of the streams sorted out, this whole model of titles popping in and out seems very unappealing. Not to mention the sheer volume of tat among the few good games.
Re: Poll: Are You Happy with Your PS Plus Games for January 2020?
No.
For the first time I'm seriously resentful that I have to pay this in order to play Monster Hunter with my friend on the odd occasion.
I don't want to pay for PS plus again. It's a huge rip off.
Re: Soapbox: Sony's First-Party Lineup Looks Sublime in 2020
It looks Dark, Dismal and Depressing to me.
You just like what you like but I think Stadia came at the right time for me. Better cost and games more suited to my taste. Less... distopia...
It's been done to DEATH now.
And let's be honest, life's getting to that point already, we don't need it in our games too.
Re: PlayStation Players Are Still Gaming's Biggest W*nkers
You wave that badge kids.
So happy I found somewhere better.
Re: E3 2019: Final Fantasy VII Remake Is Spread Across Two Discs, and That's Just Midgar
Two Blu-ray disks...
After all the incredible, long, and detailed experiences we've played on the PS4 We are supposed to accept that the Midgar content alone covers two whole disks?...
They're lying.
I think I know why too.
Ok remember being very surprised I had only just started the game once I got out of Midgar... How would they create that feeling again when many of us know the plot?
Though it may not be the entire story I'm willing to bet money it goes all the way up to... Oooh... Some kind of tragedy I expect.
Re: That Final Fantasy VII Remake Demo Is Definitely Happening as Full Intro Leaks Online
Arghh I'm freaking out with nostalgia.
Looks, and sounds, gorgeously faithful.
Thank god they didn't hold out for PS5.
Shan't be buying that white elephant.
Re: PS5 Is the Easiest Console Ever to Develop for Allegedly
Easy because it is literally an upgraded PS4.
You are all being royally had.
And when they move to streaming within this systems term and you all get lured into buying a bunch of your titles through their own walled garden that requires the latest PSwhatever to use it... you will all wonder why you spent £500 on a system when you could have spent nothing, used Stadia Base and be able to play your games on almost any screen with an internet connection and never ever have to worry about compatibility or upgrades ever again. Instead... you all jump on the silly band wagon and hate... your poor wallets.
Re: PS5 Controller Patent Potentially Explains DualShock 4's Back Button Attachment
More and more this PS5 is looking to be a subtle improvement and not a major upgrade. More power but no change.
Fine by me.
And pointless.
Very likely you'll have some dual compatability titles (with a suitably jarring downgrade for the PS4 version to encourage you to upgrade) with more PS5 exclusives later as the power required becomes PS4 prohibitive.
I am DONE being played by "upgrades". No more.
I would rather do streaming and play on anything. After using Stadia I see no sense spending 100s on hardware ever again.
Re: Nonsensical Rumour Claims PS5 Won't Have Any Exclusive Launch Games
“There may be trouble aheeeeeeead”
Re: Talking Point: What Free January 2020 PlayStation Plus Games Do You Want?
Cancelled my sub.
I'm very happy saving the money and miss none of the games on it.
Re: PS4 Firmware Update 7.02 Is Available to Download Now
Such a feature drop.
Mmmmm Mmmmm
Have fun kids.
Re: Journey to the Savage Planet Is the Only PS4 Game Typhoon Studios Will Make After Google Stadia Acquisition
So precious.
Keep hating...
Re: Reaction: PlayStation's Most Ardent Fans Are Feeling Frustrated and Insecure
Sony are flailing but for none of the reasons posted here.
Give it time.
Perhaps they'll jump the shark.
I THINK Microsoft are fairly quietly doing it. Sony seem to be focusing on VR...
Ouch...
Re: Death Stranding User Score Spikes as Metacritic Removes Over 6000 Negative Ratings
They do it to bully people who care.
Kids and, sadly in some cases, adults who only gain pleasure from the mysery of others.
Re: Stunning Action RPG Granblue Fantasy: Relink Returns Later This Month
@nessisonett it's an amazing looking JRPG, Platinum were involved in the art and animation. The IP is Granblue. If that alone doesn't grab you then I'd suggest GTA dear.
Re: Sony to Celebrate PlayStation's 25th Anniversary All This Week
@JJ2 what comes next is another iterative $500 machine. I'm done shelling out.
Re: Sony to Celebrate PlayStation's 25th Anniversary All This Week
That long is it? I remember getting excited for PS1 release... there we go.
A good run. Nice round number.
Re: This Time Next Year, We'll Be Playing PS5
@Ralizah wise decision I think. The first model is always a mess. Who knows, perhaps something else will be top dog this time...