@Residentsteven Melty blood, Blazblue, Skullgirls, under night in birth and Them fighting herds are all great figthing games, and they all belong to the air dashing fighting game sub genre.
They have all beautifull sprite work and animation. In case of Blazblue, the second last game in its series, called chronophatasma extend, has much more single player content than MK11, its last game, centralfiction, doen't really, but it is still good(if arcsys dubbed it like they did with the other prevouis three games in the series, this game would be perfect)
Skull girls, Blazblue, Them fighting herds and Undernight in birth have great tutorial modes, that explains the game pretty intuitivly, because this games have vey deep gameplay mechanism, more so than MK. All this games also have gatling(light buttons cancel into heaver buttons), so expect long combos and blockstrings.
Melty blood is a game made by the creators of undernight in birth , and is bascically a sequel to the type moon visual novel game Tsukihime. It is getting a new release in three months time, check it out if you like Tsukihime and /or the Fate series to an extent.
All this games that i have mentioned , have been GOATed and included in many people in the fighting game communities, greatest fighting games of all time, because this games are fun to play, their lore are interesting, and the games as a whole does so much right.
I wish this great fighting games would get the spotlight that they deserve, like other classics in other video game genres.
Dammit, where is my Ragna the bloodedge apperication thread?
@Residentsteven "their story mode is easily the best in any fighting game"
It really isn't personally, MK lacks an interesting and cohesive lore like Blazblue, melty blood, skullgirls and undernight in birth, and also lacks the ingenuity of implementing gamplay elements correctly into the story mode like Thems fighting herds.
@belmont I agree with you here, one of those example of characters that feel written different is Kotal Khan, they made him a jobber in MK11.
Mileena also doesn't look as hot as she does in MK10(which was literally the point of the character), but ironically for me, I kinda love Kitanas new design in MK11, is that weird?
@Arnna "why do you want sexualised characters? A lot of that stuff is very misogynistic."
This is some warped up logic. Go outside and tell any teenage girl or young adult wearing skimpy clothes, that they are representing misogynistic behaviors.
Don't get me wrong, I have limit to how much I can also take sexualization, for example I like the sexualization in Guilty Gear, but I also think its sister series, Blazblue, kinda goes a bit to hard on the anime sexualization.
According to some people on reddit, I should play this two games after trails of cold steel 2, if I want experience the story vn in chronological order. They also suggested that I play the trails of the sky trilogy before cold steel. Is this correct?
Good, I am happy about this,and hopefully arcsys sees this as a success and truly pushes this game more in advertising and long term frequent support.
They just need to fix the bugs on pc and fix the server problems on both console and pc, and add the crossplay that they promised (which is looking likely), then the game will escape from the all to common fate of fighting games dying a month after launch. This and R&C are my GOTY.
@Flaming_Kaiser I don't think you understand how team red creates characters for strive. Unlike snk, team red doesn't raise character model assets from the previous games, hence they are made from scratch. So it's not like they are keeping old characters behind a paywall, it is just that models for those old characters don't exist even for strive yet.
Again, KOF15, is just kof14 with a coat of new paint, and four new characters. So yeah, you are getting more characters from KOF, because 95% of those characters already existed, while for Guilty Gear none of the character models for strive existed in previous games(you can even check for yourself).
I have to also disagree with you on this one, I got more value out of buying Guilty Gear rev2 4 years ago for $60 then I had for GOW4 for the same price. Why? Because that $60 Guilty Gear game has given me fun for about 4 years now, while that enjoyment of GOW only lasted for about a month.
@nomither6 Why shouldn't they announce dlc. Dlc is a way to show that they are supporting the game after release.
Fighting games are multiplayer focused games, so they require a healthy playerbase to stick around after the first month. Dlc characters are the best solution to this when the game release, because they help create a sense of anticipation for the future of the game and they help keep players coming back to the game after months of release.
You guys should realise that the fighting game genre is not as thriving as the shooters, rpg and AAA action adventure game genre, it is very niche. When compared to other mulpiyer games like shooters, majority of fighting games have a very unhealthy playerbase, meaning that the playerbase drops significantly after a month of release.So a AAA game like FF7 remake can wait a year then announce dlc, but a fighting game like Guilty Gear can not afford that luxury, it requires a constant playerbase and DLC gives that hype.
No, this doesn't mean that they purposely cut content from the base game,and seeing Guilty Gear strives development history, I wouldn't be surprised if they are still working on the first dlc character as we speak.Plus, it's not like making games is getting cheaper.
@nomither6 What are you on about, this dlc characters have not been finished yet, so it would not be possible to put them on disc. Rereleasing games is a terrible idea, and it splits up the playerbase.
@Flaming_Kaiser I can get more value out of Strive at $60, then I can out of any Sony single player game for the same price. So I think it is fair that fighting games can cost as much as any other AAA single player games.
Plus we don't know if they are finished with the dlc characters yet, and with all the delays the game had , I doubt it.
@arra1213 Tbh, Kof15 roaster are just reused assets from kof14, with a new coat of paint, and four new character mixed in , while also still being of objectively less quality in terms of animation visual effects of the models than Strives.
So don't be surprised to find out that SNK spent way less money on the character models for kof15, compared to the 15 character models for Arcsystem Guilty Gear strive.
@JimRyanTriggersYou That what makes him the GOAT, him retiring from time to time, yet he still has six ballon'dor's, the most in football history, it's just crazy.
But on a serious note, Messi has never retired from club football, but he has tired from international football like twice, and he always came back when his country needed him.
@TrueAssassin86x I use it like discord to find people to play Guilty Gear xrd and Blazblue central fiction with, since both games playerbases are very low. Now I am stuck.
@TrueAssassin86x It's the most watched and played sports on the planet for a reason.
It has a very inclusive geographic appeal, from Africa to Europe to South America and to Asia.
So yes , you are in the minority, no other sports brings people of the same country and continent together(international football) while simultaneously bringing people of different country and creed(Club football) together like football does, not even the Olympics.
Football is not just a sport, it is a way of life.
But I do not blame you, if you aren't in or weren't brought up in an environment that loves football, then there would be a disconnect with the joy of football. From the country I am from, no, from the continent I am from , it is impossible to have not grown up with football in your family. So it is impossible for me to understand your indifference towards football.
P.S. if you want to watch a footballer who doesn't dive like a swimmer, then watch Lionel Messi, he is the greatest footballer that has ever played the sport or will play the sport, and he is famously known for not diving, plus he is a magician with the football.
@nhSnork Gravity rush on switch would be fire, and you know what, since Sony isn't even going to use the Gravity rush IP in the future,since they are less focus on games like Gravity rush, they should sell it to Nintendo. Nintendo will then hire the Gravity rush devs, and we can finally get our Gravity rush 3.
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Re: Japan Studio Has Officially Been Removed from Sony's Website
I am not crying, you're crying.
Re: Mortal Kombat 11 DLC Ceases As NetherRealm Turns Attention to Next Project
@Residentsteven Melty blood, Blazblue, Skullgirls, under night in birth and Them fighting herds are all great figthing games, and they all belong to the air dashing fighting game sub genre.
They have all beautifull sprite work and animation. In case of Blazblue, the second last game in its series, called chronophatasma extend, has much more single player content than MK11, its last game, centralfiction, doen't really, but it is still good(if arcsys dubbed it like they did with the other prevouis three games in the series, this game would be perfect)
Skull girls, Blazblue, Them fighting herds and Undernight in birth have great tutorial modes, that explains the game pretty intuitivly, because this games have vey deep gameplay mechanism, more so than MK. All this games also have gatling(light buttons cancel into heaver buttons), so expect long combos and blockstrings.
Melty blood is a game made by the creators of undernight in birth , and is bascically a sequel to the type moon visual novel game Tsukihime. It is getting a new release in three months time, check it out if you like Tsukihime and /or the Fate series to an extent.
All this games that i have mentioned , have been GOATed and included in many people in the fighting game communities, greatest fighting games of all time, because this games are fun to play, their lore are interesting, and the games as a whole does so much right.
I wish this great fighting games would get the spotlight that they deserve, like other classics in other video game genres.
Dammit, where is my Ragna the bloodedge apperication thread?
Re: Mortal Kombat 11 DLC Ceases As NetherRealm Turns Attention to Next Project
@Residentsteven
"their story mode is easily the best in any fighting game"
It really isn't personally, MK lacks an interesting and cohesive lore like Blazblue, melty blood,
skullgirls and undernight in birth, and also lacks the ingenuity of implementing gamplay elements correctly into the story mode like Thems fighting herds.
Re: Mortal Kombat 11 DLC Ceases As NetherRealm Turns Attention to Next Project
@belmont I agree with you here, one of those example of characters that feel written different is Kotal Khan, they made him a jobber in MK11.
Mileena also doesn't look as hot as she does in MK10(which was literally the point of the character), but ironically for me, I kinda love Kitanas new design in MK11, is that weird?
Re: Mortal Kombat 11 DLC Ceases As NetherRealm Turns Attention to Next Project
@Arnna "why do you want sexualised characters? A lot of that stuff is very misogynistic."
This is some warped up logic. Go outside and tell any teenage girl or young adult wearing skimpy clothes, that they are representing misogynistic behaviors.
Don't get me wrong, I have limit to how much I can also take sexualization, for example I like the sexualization in Guilty Gear, but I also think its sister series, Blazblue, kinda goes a bit to hard on the anime sexualization.
Re: Sony Confirms Acquisition of Returnal Dev Housemarque
Begun, the acquisition wars has...
Re: Rumour: PS Plus July 2021 PS5, PS4 Games Leaked, But Evidence Is Shaky
@Bush Have you played Uncharted: golden abyss on the Vita?
Re: Talking Point: What Free July 2021 PS Plus Games Would You Like?
@Bleachedsmiles I am with you on this, except I get ps plus only for the online.
Re: Trails from Zero and Trails to Azure Confirmed for Western PS4 Release in 2022, 2023
@Ralizah Thanks, I will at least try to play the crossbell games after I finish trails of cold steel 1.
Re: Trails from Zero and Trails to Azure Confirmed for Western PS4 Release in 2022, 2023
According to some people on reddit, I should play this two games after trails of cold steel 2, if I want experience the story vn in chronological order.
They also suggested that I play the trails of the sky trilogy before cold steel.
Is this correct?
Re: Four Trails Games are Being Localised, But PS4 Hasn't Been Confirmed
Loving this series so far.
Hope it comes on playstation.
Re: Final Fantasy IX Animated TV Show Announced
@themightyant Final fantasy 13 isn't low enough.
Re: Final Fantasy IX Animated TV Show Announced
@Milktastrophe You enjoyed it to right? That anime was the reason I bought Final fantasy 15.
Re: Poll: What's Your Favourite PS5, PS4 Game of 2021 So Far?
Guilty Gear strive and of course, Ratchet and Clank.
Re: Review: Guilty Gear Strive (PS5) - An Exceptional Fighting Game that Sets the Bar for Visuals and Online Play
Totally agree with the score, and as the game ages over time with more support from the devs, it is only going to get better.
Re: PlayStation Exclusive Final Fantasy VII Remake Spotted on Epic Games Store
Why the hell was it exclusive in the first place?
Re: Trails of Cold Steel Dev Falcom Has 'Special Announcements' Planned for 40th Anniversary Concert Next Week
I am loving trails of cold steel 1 right now.
Re: Reaction: E3 Is a Relic Desperately Clinging to Relevancy
Nintendo was great. I dont really mind E3, Because I feel it's a good place for game to get their exposure
Re: Guilty Gear Strive Hits 300,000 Sales
Good, I am happy about this,and hopefully arcsys sees this as a success and truly pushes this game more in advertising and long term frequent support.
They just need to fix the bugs on pc and fix the server problems on both console and pc, and add the crossplay that they promised (which is looking likely), then the game will escape from the all to common fate of fighting games dying a month after launch.
This and R&C are my GOTY.
Re: UK Sales Charts: Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart the Next Insomniac Game to Take Top Spot
Happy for Rachet and Clank, but Guilty Gear strive deserves better. This also shows how niche fighting games really are when compared to other genres.
Re: Guilty Gear Strive Gets First DLC Character Details and a Badass Opening Movie
@Flaming_Kaiser I don't think you understand how team red creates characters for strive. Unlike snk, team red doesn't raise character model assets from the previous games, hence they are made from scratch. So it's not like they are keeping old characters behind a paywall, it is just that models for those old characters don't exist even for strive yet.
Again, KOF15, is just kof14 with a coat of new paint, and four new characters. So yeah, you are getting more characters from KOF, because 95% of those characters already existed, while for Guilty Gear none of the character models for strive existed in previous games(you can even check for yourself).
I have to also disagree with you on this one, I got more value out of buying Guilty Gear rev2 4 years ago for $60 then I had for GOW4 for the same price. Why? Because that $60 Guilty Gear game has given me fun for about 4 years now, while that enjoyment of GOW only lasted for about a month.
Re: Guilty Gear Strive Gets First DLC Character Details and a Badass Opening Movie
@nomither6 Why shouldn't they announce dlc. Dlc is a way to show that they are supporting the game after release.
Fighting games are multiplayer focused games, so they require a healthy playerbase to stick around after the first month. Dlc characters are the best solution to this when the game release, because they help create a sense of anticipation for the future of the game and they help keep players coming back to the game after months of release.
You guys should realise that the fighting game genre is not as thriving as the shooters, rpg and AAA action adventure game genre, it is very niche. When compared to other mulpiyer games like shooters, majority of fighting games have a very unhealthy playerbase, meaning that the playerbase drops significantly after a month of release.So a AAA game like FF7 remake can wait a year then announce dlc, but a fighting game like Guilty Gear can not afford that luxury, it requires a constant playerbase and DLC gives that hype.
No, this doesn't mean that they purposely cut content from the base game,and seeing Guilty Gear strives development history, I wouldn't be surprised if they are still working on the first dlc character as we speak.Plus, it's not like making games is getting cheaper.
Re: Guilty Gear Strive Gets First DLC Character Details and a Badass Opening Movie
@nomither6 What are you on about, this dlc characters have not been finished yet, so it would not be possible to put them on disc.
Rereleasing games is a terrible idea, and it splits up the playerbase.
Re: Guilty Gear Strive Gets First DLC Character Details and a Badass Opening Movie
@Flaming_Kaiser I can get more value out of Strive at $60, then I can out of any Sony single player game for the same price. So I think it is fair that fighting games can cost as much as any other AAA single player games.
Plus we don't know if they are finished with the dlc characters yet, and with all the delays the game had , I doubt it.
Re: Guilty Gear Strive Gets First DLC Character Details and a Badass Opening Movie
@arra1213 Tbh, Kof15 roaster are just reused assets from kof14, with a new coat of paint, and four new character mixed in , while also still being of objectively less quality in terms of animation visual effects of the models than Strives.
So don't be surprised to find out that SNK spent way less money on the character models for kof15, compared to the 15 character models for Arcsystem Guilty Gear strive.
Re: Almost Half of PlayStation Gamers Are Women
Doubt it, and they should remove Kat from that poster, Playstation failed Gravity Rush.
Re: Virtua Fighter 5: Ultimate Showdown Is a Serious Step Up in Graphics Comparison Trailer
@somnambulance A fighting game that doesn't even include rollback in 2021, ain't my fighting game of the year.
Re: Rumoured PS Plus Game Virtua Fighter 5: Ultimate Showdown Announced as PS4 Exclusive
Please have ROLLBACK netcode.
Re: Rumour: PS Plus June 2021 Line-Up Leaked Ahead of Time
I am hyped for virtue fighter, if the rumours are true.
Re: Rumour: Final Fantasy Origin Reveal Set for E3, Working with Team Ninja
Uhm, I don't know about this, but I hope it won't be as bad as Final Fantasy 13.
Re: Overwatch 2 PvP Now 5 vs. 5, New Maps Revealed
Coping Paladins I see, how ironic. Anyway, Paladins was the superior game , gameplay wise.
Re: Movie Review: Mortal Kombat (2021) – An Uneven, But Ultimately Enjoyable Film
I can't believe MK got another bad movie before Guilty Gear got an anime.
Re: Guilty Gear Strive Second Open Beta Hits in May, Has Online and Offline Modes, All Characters Playable
Finally, I get to play Anji.
Re: Paris Saint-Germain Forward Neymar Is a Fortnite Hero Now
@JimRyanTriggersYou That what makes him the GOAT, him retiring from time to time, yet he still has six ballon'dor's, the most in football history, it's just crazy.
But on a serious note, Messi has never retired from club football, but he has tired from international football like twice, and he always came back when his country needed him.
Re: Paris Saint-Germain Forward Neymar Is a Fortnite Hero Now
Oi, where's my boy Messi?
Re: Talking Point: What Free May 2021 PS Plus Games Do You Want?
@Talkshowhost I don't blame you, Kojima and his games are overhyped.
Re: Bleach: Brave Souls Unleashes Its Bankai on PS4 in 2021
Arcsys, please make a Bleach fighting game.
Re: Resident Evil Village Has You Killing Animals for Upgrades
@The_New_Butler I haven't played Monster hunter yet, so may I ask what got you into it now?
Re: PS4 Firmware Update 8.50 Is Available to Download Now
@TrueAssassin86x I use it like discord to find people to play Guilty Gear xrd and Blazblue central fiction with, since both games playerbases are very low.
Now I am stuck.
Re: Sony Wants to Bring PlayStation's Most Popular Franchises to Smartphones
@Rob_230 Uhm nope, esport is very relevant for a gaming company.
Especially fighting games, which playstation is becoming the console of choice for, thus it makes sense for them to buy EVO.
Re: Sony Wants to Bring PlayStation's Most Popular Franchises to Smartphones
Welp ,they gotta make money somehow, at least now they can compete in the Japanese market, since they supposedly love mobile gaming.
Re: UK Sales Charts: FIFA 21 Scores a Number One as Outriders Lands a Top 10 Debut
@wiiware All I am going to say, is that Gravity rush looks like an Nintendo game...
Re: Reaction: Sony Said Xbox Game Pass Isn't Sustainable, Then Released One of Its Tentpole Titles into the Service Anyway
@TrueAssassin86x It's the most watched and played sports on the planet for a reason.
It has a very inclusive geographic appeal, from Africa to Europe to South America and to Asia.
So yes , you are in the minority, no other sports brings people of the same country and continent together(international football) while simultaneously bringing people of different country and creed(Club football) together like football does, not even the Olympics.
Football is not just a sport, it is a way of life.
But I do not blame you, if you aren't in or weren't brought up in an environment that loves football, then there would be a disconnect with the joy of football. From the country I am from, no, from the continent I am from , it is impossible to have not grown up with football in your family. So it is impossible for me to understand your indifference towards football.
P.S. if you want to watch a footballer who doesn't dive like a swimmer, then watch Lionel Messi, he is the greatest footballer that has ever played the sport or will play the sport, and he is famously known for not diving, plus he is a magician with the football.
Re: Reaction: Sony Said Xbox Game Pass Isn't Sustainable, Then Released One of Its Tentpole Titles into the Service Anyway
@nhSnork Gravity rush on switch would be fire, and you know what, since Sony isn't even going to use the Gravity rush IP in the future,since they are less focus on games like Gravity rush, they should sell it to Nintendo. Nintendo will then hire the Gravity rush devs, and we can finally get our Gravity rush 3.
Re: Gravity Rush Character Designer the Latest Departure from Sony's Japan Studio
I am not crying, your crying.
I am going to miss him, and the rest of the devs.
Re: Talking Point: What Free April 2021 PS Plus Games Are You Hoping For?
Any non-NRS fighting game.
Re: Talking Point: Would You Buy a PS1, PS2, or PS3 Emulator for PS5?
I have my PC for that, but playstation classic isn't a bad idea.
Re: PS3, PS Vita, and PSP Online Stores to Close This Summer, Says New Report
Time to get a Ps3 and jailbreak it.
Re: Reaction: Why Did PlayStation Buy Evo?
@AdamNovice Sony shouldn't even dear touch Arcsys.
Re: PS5 Promotional Video Highlights Biggest and Best Upcoming Games
Ah yeah, Guilty Gear strive and Ratchet and Clank.