@DeepSpace5D I think it's very unlikely PSVR 2 will be backwards compatible because they would have to somehow emulate the old tracking system through the new one which utilizes a very different method and tech. The games are still playable on PS5, but you'll need to continue using PSVR 1 to play them. I imagine we'll see a few of the more popular titles get native ports for PS5/PSVR 2, however.
I hope Sony will continue to improve backwards compatibility on PS5 to address issues that some games have. Because if it is left to the developers to patch them it's unlikely that will happen. I wouldn't be surprised if this is the only case.
I would rather not need to keep my PS4 hooked up should I ever want to play Assassin's Creed Syndicate or the Batman Arkham collection–two other titles that exhibit errors when running on PS5.
I was of the minority who voted for The Last Guardian. I did so simply because it's one of those titles that is already enhanced when running the unpatched versions from the disc, so it should be minimal work to update it.
Death Stranding is a similar situation since the game can achieve 60fps on even weak PCs.
Otherwise, the Uncharteds really deserve a patch to allow 60fps, bringing parity with the ND Collection. Especially because we know the game can support it since it already does in multiplayer.
Shadows of The Colossus would be great at 4K/60 too. Of course Bloodborne is an obvious pick, but I'm not sure how realistic that is considering its age. While Horizon would also be welcome, but I'm pretty sure Guerilla has mentioned that the game was designed specifically for 30fps, but maybe that was before the PC version was planned.
Finally, TLoU 2 is another obvious pick, but I'm pretty confident that a native PS5 port is in the works, so I wouldn't waste my vote on a patch.
I think for many of these titles it could be a simple matter of unlocking the frame rate. Most already have enhanced resolution for PS4 Pro.
I just wish PlayStation would commit to patching a few more SIE-published titles to take advantage of the PS5's extra power. I'd rather not play unpatched versions of GOW and The Last Guardian to run them at 4K/60fps. Death Stranding and Shadow of the Colossus are a couple more great candidates for a patch. I omitted Bloodborne and Horizon since those are older, so that might be asking for too much. And it's likely TLOU 2 will receive a native port. As for 3rd-party, I'd love to see Jedi: Fallen Order.
I still have my PS3 hooked up and play it on occasion, but my Dualshock 3s are starting to fail. All analog stick related. The older controller's sticks are very loose and the newer one had really bad drift issues. I opened it up to try to fix it, but now it doesn't work at all.
I was surprised to learn how difficult it is to get a new PS3 compatible gamepad. New DS3s on ebay are mostly fake and the third party options are just not good. I bought the GameSir G4s which works great on mobile, but on PS3 there's noticably increased input lag. I could use a Dualshock 4, but then I have to sacrifice rumble. And who knows how much longer this console is going to last. As it is, this unit replaced my launch system which died of ylod (was a sad day when I had to trade it + $100 to Sony for the Slim model).
This is just another example of why backwards compatibility is important.
I've had a backlog since 2008 and it just keeps compounding with every passing year. I try to play games in chronological order according to year of release with a few exceptions. I'm about 4 years behind in terms of modern releases. I also have a backlog of retro games and PC/Xbox titles that I've postponed playing until I get a gaming PC someday. Don't even get be started with Nintendo. Their game prices have dissuaded me from having a Switch backlog, let alone the console itself. On the bright side, I probably pay < $15 per game on average.
Here's what I played within this past year: Titanfall 2 Sonic 4: Episode 2 (PS3) Batman: Arkham Knight Uncharted 4 Deus Ex: Mankind Divided Infamous: First Light The Last Guardian Metro 2033 Redux Knack Rise of The Tomb Raider Batman: Arkham VR Dishonored Definitive Edition (playing)
I wish game developers would include a feature to help players quickly re-familiarize themselves with the game's controls and systems. I'm thinking of games such as The Witcher, Assassin's creed, Metal Gear, and even Batman, which all have complex controls and gameplay mechanics.
I often find myself wanting to go back and play those titles, but I dread relearning how to play. It could be like the tutorial missions in older games, but more focused and quicker to complete. Something similar to the training modes in Mortal Kombat. Assassin's creed Unity had something as well. But I'm envisioning more of a comprehensive refresher course of sorts that covers everything and could be completed in 5 to 10 minutes.
The only time I use the web browser on PS4 is with the 'Search Internet' feature for trophies. I find it very convenient to get help with a trophy in just a few clicks and on the same screen I'm playing on. I doubt this will ever be on PS5 since this would compete with the new Game Help feature, which by the way is of no help to non-Plus subscribers like myself.
@PeterN80 That's referring to the signal that the PS5 outputs over HDMI. It can still run games at 1440p. They just won't output at that res on a 1440p monitor. It will be upscaled from 1080p. And on a 4K display this game will upscale to 2160p even though its internal res is half of that.
@JoshuaTChandler This. I'm almost certain Sony has said that PS5 games can indeed be stored on an external drive, but they would need to be transferred to the internal drive in order to be played.
This will be much faster than re-downloading games and will be beneficial to those like myself who's ISP imposes a monthly data cap.
It was upsetting enough that they're needlessly removing PS3, PSP and Vita content since a simple solution to remove clutter would be to filter out that content by default and provide a function for users to toggle them back in.
But the removal of the wishlist is just deplorable. What online store doesn't have a wishlist in today's day and age? This is a standard feature that likely increases sales. I know I personally have used it almost exclusively to make my purchases. I buy many dozens of games over a console's lifecycle, but I can't afford to buy them at full price, so I add them to my wishlist and when PlayStation runs a sale, I simply scan through my wishlist to see if any are included. I've made nearly all of my PS Store purchases this way. I currently have over 70 games in my wishlist.
There's no acceptable reason for this other than if they're removing it temporarily for technical reasons and will implement a new version in the future. But if that's the case, they should comminate this to their users.
I'm normally not one to complain about the decisions platform holders make, but this one is just unreasonable and beyond upsetting.
Can someone please confirm the details of these unlocked frame rate settings? Is there already a setting for this in the current version, or will this be part of a future patch.
Is it like infamous first light where performance mode and frame rate are two independent settings? Or is it like Rise of the Tomb Raider where it's either 4k/30 or 1080p/unlocked? I would like to know for GOW as well.
I ask because PS5 should be able to run PS4 titles at full 4K/60fps, so it would be disappointing if the only way to play at 60fps would be at 1080p.
I'm happy with insomniac's decision to do a full remaster for PS5 and feel it's worth paying for. But for the many other titles from other devs, I hope they at least offer patches to enhance the visuals for PS5. Even if it's just res/fps boosts.
This is a bit upsetting. While I rarely use my PS3, I still have a few games in my wishlist that are exclusive to that console. I rely on the web store to purchase PS3 games because the native app crashes the system 90% of the time. Then I can download them from purchase history under account settings. Now I'll have to go through my wishlist and record all the PS3 (and Vita) games onto another list and risk crashing the console when I eventually try to make a purchase.
I get the need to clean up the store, but I can't help but feel there is a way to accomplish that without this compromise.
If Sony doesn't want to invest in PS3 backward compatibility, then at least don't make those games even more inconvenient to play than they already are.
This is kind of disappointing... I mean, on one hand they deserve to be paid for the additional work they did to enhance the game, but on the other hand, the competition is doing the same at no additional charge with Gears 5, among other titles. The least they could do is offer a discounted paid upgrade path. But to not even offer the title as a standalone?! That's just taking it too far...
@michaelf Count me as number 2 of the 6. My copy is still sealed on my shelf since November. This is despite this game being my most anticipated one ever. I'm still playing through the backlog; currently up to 2016, so was getting close to this 2018 title. Now, I'm just going to wait until I get a PS5 to play the remaster. Anyway, I have a big enough backlog to tie me over and I want to experience this game in all its glory. I'll probably sell my PS4 copy along with my PS4 Pro once I can confirm that I won't lose anything in the transition to PS5.
I'm glad to see a post about this because it's been stressing me out. Even before Spiderman 2018 was announced, Insomniac has been my favorite developer and a quality Spiderman game was my dream game. So it will probably be shocking to hear that I still haven't played it yet, despite owning the complete addition since November (couldn't resist at $15). I just don't have the time to play like I used to and the backlog is real. I'm not going to be getting a PS5 in its first year, so now my debate is whether I should hold off until I eventually get one to play the enhanced version. And if I do, will I have to buy it again even though my PS4 version is still on my shelf sealed.
I think the answer is obvious though: Since most people who pick up Miles Morales already own the original, if the upgrade was free there wouldn't be any incentive to buy the ultimate edition. So it's definitely not going to be free. However, it would be great if Sony offered a paid upgrade at a reduced price for owners of the PS4 version.
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Re: Poll: What Free PS4 Games Are You Most Excited to Play?
@DeepSpace5D
I think it's very unlikely PSVR 2 will be backwards compatible because they would have to somehow emulate the old tracking system through the new one which utilizes a very different method and tech. The games are still playable on PS5, but you'll need to continue using PSVR 1 to play them. I imagine we'll see a few of the more popular titles get native ports for PS5/PSVR 2, however.
Re: Seven Year Old PS4 Game Dynasty Warriors 8: Xtreme Legends Complete Edition Gets PS5 Compatibility Patch
I hope Sony will continue to improve backwards compatibility on PS5 to address issues that some games have. Because if it is left to the developers to patch them it's unlikely that will happen. I wouldn't be surprised if this is the only case.
I would rather not need to keep my PS4 hooked up should I ever want to play Assassin's Creed Syndicate or the Batman Arkham collection–two other titles that exhibit errors when running on PS5.
Re: Poll: What Other First-Party PS4 Game Needs a PS5 Update?
I was of the minority who voted for The Last Guardian. I did so simply because it's one of those titles that is already enhanced when running the unpatched versions from the disc, so it should be minimal work to update it.
Death Stranding is a similar situation since the game can achieve 60fps on even weak PCs.
Otherwise, the Uncharteds really deserve a patch to allow 60fps, bringing parity with the ND Collection. Especially because we know the game can support it since it already does in multiplayer.
Shadows of The Colossus would be great at 4K/60 too. Of course Bloodborne is an obvious pick, but I'm not sure how realistic that is considering its age. While Horizon would also be welcome, but I'm pretty sure Guerilla has mentioned that the game was designed specifically for 30fps, but maybe that was before the PC version was planned.
Finally, TLoU 2 is another obvious pick, but I'm pretty confident that a native PS5 port is in the works, so I wouldn't waste my vote on a patch.
I think for many of these titles it could be a simple matter of unlocking the frame rate. Most already have enhanced resolution for PS4 Pro.
Re: Soapbox: PS5 Backwards Compatibility Has Kept Me Glued to My Next-Gen Console
I just wish PlayStation would commit to patching a few more SIE-published titles to take advantage of the PS5's extra power. I'd rather not play unpatched versions of GOW and The Last Guardian to run them at 4K/60fps. Death Stranding and Shadow of the Colossus are a couple more great candidates for a patch. I omitted Bloodborne and Horizon since those are older, so that might be asking for too much. And it's likely TLOU 2 will receive a native port. As for 3rd-party, I'd love to see Jedi: Fallen Order.
I mean, how much work would this require?
Re: PS3 Gets a Surprise Firmware Update, Available to Download Now
@Vacuumator Good to know. Thanks!
Re: PS3 Gets a Surprise Firmware Update, Available to Download Now
I still have my PS3 hooked up and play it on occasion, but my Dualshock 3s are starting to fail. All analog stick related. The older controller's sticks are very loose and the newer one had really bad drift issues. I opened it up to try to fix it, but now it doesn't work at all.
I was surprised to learn how difficult it is to get a new PS3 compatible gamepad. New DS3s on ebay are mostly fake and the third party options are just not good. I bought the GameSir G4s which works great on mobile, but on PS3 there's noticably increased input lag. I could use a Dualshock 4, but then I have to sacrifice rumble. And who knows how much longer this console is going to last. As it is, this unit replaced my launch system which died of ylod (was a sad day when I had to trade it + $100 to Sony for the Slim model).
This is just another example of why backwards compatibility is important.
Re: Soapbox: I've Missed the Feeling of Having a Backlog
I've had a backlog since 2008 and it just keeps compounding with every passing year. I try to play games in chronological order according to year of release with a few exceptions. I'm about 4 years behind in terms of modern releases. I also have a backlog of retro games and PC/Xbox titles that I've postponed playing until I get a gaming PC someday. Don't even get be started with Nintendo. Their game prices have dissuaded me from having a Switch backlog, let alone the console itself. On the bright side, I probably pay < $15 per game on average.
Here's what I played within this past year:
Titanfall 2
Sonic 4: Episode 2 (PS3)
Batman: Arkham Knight
Uncharted 4
Deus Ex: Mankind Divided
Infamous: First Light
The Last Guardian
Metro 2033 Redux
Knack
Rise of The Tomb Raider
Batman: Arkham VR
Dishonored Definitive Edition (playing)
Re: Sony Designed PS5's Biggest Feature Around Thriving Single Player Games
I wish game developers would include a feature to help players quickly re-familiarize themselves with the game's controls and systems. I'm thinking of games such as The Witcher, Assassin's creed, Metal Gear, and even Batman, which all have complex controls and gameplay mechanics.
I often find myself wanting to go back and play those titles, but I dread relearning how to play. It could be like the tutorial missions in older games, but more focused and quicker to complete. Something similar to the training modes in Mortal Kombat. Assassin's creed Unity had something as well. But I'm envisioning more of a comprehensive refresher course of sorts that covers everything and could be completed in 5 to 10 minutes.
Re: PS5's Hidden Web Browser Can Be Used if You Know How
The only time I use the web browser on PS4 is with the 'Search Internet' feature for trophies. I find it very convenient to get help with a trophy in just a few clicks and on the same screen I'm playing on. I doubt this will ever be on PS5 since this would compete with the new Game Help feature, which by the way is of no help to non-Plus subscribers like myself.
Re: EA Details Inconsistent Next-Gen Upgrades for PS4 Games
@PeterN80 That's referring to the signal that the PS5 outputs over HDMI. It can still run games at 1440p. They just won't output at that res on a 1440p monitor. It will be upscaled from 1080p. And on a 4K display this game will upscale to 2160p even though its internal res is half of that.
Re: EA Details Inconsistent Next-Gen Upgrades for PS4 Games
It's disappointing that Jedi Fallen Order isn't on this list. Even a patch that just allows 60fps at higher res would be welcome.
Unless the game's uncapped fram rate setting already runs at boosted res unlike other games that cap it at 1080p in this mode. Can anyone confirm?
Re: PS5's Limited SSD Storage Space Cannot Be Upgraded at Launch
@JoshuaTChandler This.
I'm almost certain Sony has said that PS5 games can indeed be stored on an external drive, but they would need to be transferred to the internal drive in order to be played.
This will be much faster than re-downloading games and will be beneficial to those like myself who's ISP imposes a monthly data cap.
Re: Sony Informing Users of New PS Store on Web and Mobile, Launching This Month
It was upsetting enough that they're needlessly removing PS3, PSP and Vita content since a simple solution to remove clutter would be to filter out that content by default and provide a function for users to toggle them back in.
But the removal of the wishlist is just deplorable. What online store doesn't have a wishlist in today's day and age? This is a standard feature that likely increases sales. I know I personally have used it almost exclusively to make my purchases. I buy many dozens of games over a console's lifecycle, but I can't afford to buy them at full price, so I add them to my wishlist and when PlayStation runs a sale, I simply scan through my wishlist to see if any are included. I've made nearly all of my PS Store purchases this way. I currently have over 70 games in my wishlist.
There's no acceptable reason for this other than if they're removing it temporarily for technical reasons and will implement a new version in the future. But if that's the case, they should comminate this to their users.
I'm normally not one to complain about the decisions platform holders make, but this one is just unreasonable and beyond upsetting.
Re: Ghost of Tsushima Supports 60 Frames-Per-Second on PS5, Better Load Times
Can someone please confirm the details of these unlocked frame rate settings? Is there already a setting for this in the current version, or will this be part of a future patch.
Is it like infamous first light where performance mode and frame rate are two independent settings? Or is it like Rise of the Tomb Raider where it's either 4k/30 or 1080p/unlocked? I would like to know for GOW as well.
I ask because PS5 should be able to run PS4 titles at full 4K/60fps, so it would be disappointing if the only way to play at 60fps would be at 1080p.
I'm happy with insomniac's decision to do a full remaster for PS5 and feel it's worth paying for. But for the many other titles from other devs, I hope they at least offer patches to enhance the visuals for PS5. Even if it's just res/fps boosts.
Re: Sony Launching New PS Store on Web and Mobile This Month
This is a bit upsetting. While I rarely use my PS3, I still have a few games in my wishlist that are exclusive to that console. I rely on the web store to purchase PS3 games because the native app crashes the system 90% of the time. Then I can download them from purchase history under account settings. Now I'll have to go through my wishlist and record all the PS3 (and Vita) games onto another list and risk crashing the console when I eventually try to make a purchase.
I get the need to clean up the store, but I can't help but feel there is a way to accomplish that without this compromise.
If Sony doesn't want to invest in PS3 backward compatibility, then at least don't make those games even more inconvenient to play than they already are.
Re: Looks Like Crash Bandicoot 4 Could Be Spinning Onto PS5
This is good news. I just wish they would do the same for Crash Team Racing. It would be a great enhancement if that game ran at 60fps.
Re: Sony Confirms Spider-Man PS5 Remaster Is Not a Free Upgrade
This is kind of disappointing... I mean, on one hand they deserve to be paid for the additional work they did to enhance the game, but on the other hand, the competition is doing the same at no additional charge with Gears 5, among other titles. The least they could do is offer a discounted paid upgrade path. But to not even offer the title as a standalone?! That's just taking it too far...
Re: Sony Confirms Spider-Man PS5 Remaster Is Not a Free Upgrade
@michaelf Count me as number 2 of the 6. My copy is still sealed on my shelf since November. This is despite this game being my most anticipated one ever. I'm still playing through the backlog; currently up to 2016, so was getting close to this 2018 title. Now, I'm just going to wait until I get a PS5 to play the remaster. Anyway, I have a big enough backlog to tie me over and I want to experience this game in all its glory. I'll probably sell my PS4 copy along with my PS4 Pro once I can confirm that I won't lose anything in the transition to PS5.
Re: Fans Want to Know if They Can Upgrade from PS4 to Marvel's Spider-Man Remastered on PS5
I'm glad to see a post about this because it's been stressing me out. Even before Spiderman 2018 was announced, Insomniac has been my favorite developer and a quality Spiderman game was my dream game. So it will probably be shocking to hear that I still haven't played it yet, despite owning the complete addition since November (couldn't resist at $15). I just don't have the time to play like I used to and the backlog is real. I'm not going to be getting a PS5 in its first year, so now my debate is whether I should hold off until I eventually get one to play the enhanced version. And if I do, will I have to buy it again even though my PS4 version is still on my shelf sealed.
I think the answer is obvious though: Since most people who pick up Miles Morales already own the original, if the upgrade was free there wouldn't be any incentive to buy the ultimate edition. So it's definitely not going to be free. However, it would be great if Sony offered a paid upgrade at a reduced price for owners of the PS4 version.