Topic: The Last Of Us Part II - OT (No Spoilers)

Don't feed the trolls, people.

This game has reached full horror potential with Dina's armpits. 🤮

@Matroska I really don't mind those, it's after the apocalypse right? The horror lies elsewhere, I actually really enjoyed what I saw of Dina.

@TheDude89 Amen!

So I've been exploring Seattle for a bit and I've enjoyed the game hugely so far but my PS4 randomly deleted the game from my hard drive so I've had to download it again. However, normally we'd have to wait until fully installed but I clicked on it after it reached ready to play and tried to load my file, at which point its downloaded the bit of the game I need to play. So it's currently at 30gb installed but I'm able to play where I was, so my evening isn't completely ruined

@carlos82
That's handy, sounds like it worked out pretty well. Fingers crossed for no more random deletions going forward.

@stuzster
Woah, you're coming into this thread with your common sense.. Pretty sure that's not allowed.

@Zuljaras Actually, you miss an extremely large amount of dialog between characters that are not in cut scenes that build up relationships and character development. By not playing and only watching the “story,” I would say you’re missing out on all the subtleties that help make the player more invested in everything. And it does matter if you don’t play it. You have no risk only watching the cut-scenes. Playing, you can die, you can feel the tension, you can make noise and find yourself in a heap of trouble. You control the character.

Oh jeez, so intense! The combat is very brutal. The first game was tough, but this one takes it even further. I wonder if the developers/animators have any nightmares from seeing this day in and day, especially fine tuning it all. Yikes!

After playing the first game and now the 2nd Joel was right that humanity was not worth saving.

I love those hero cards that you have to collect. I even found one who is a top naughty dog.

@ApostateMage
Yeah, those are pretty cool, more interesting than the collectibles in the first game, I think. I've been pretty good at exploring so far but I bet I've missed a few.

@LieutenantFatman Yeah I'm am searching for stuff but at the same time I want to push on with the game. Think that is what slows me down when playing games, searching every nook and cranny for stuff.

@starhops I think that feeling fades away after a while. I mean, imagine developing a horror game and having to play test it every time, I couldn't Haha, but maybe it's different when you're actually developing it and know how the game is built.

@ApostateMage Yeah I love those as well. But I'm a sucker for that kind of stuff..!

@JohnnyShoulder
I think in most games a lot of searching just isn't worthwhile with collectibles generally being useless.

But in this game not only do you get some really cool knick knacks you can use making you a force to be reckoned with, it often gives you extra story bits and conversations too, so it's well worth doing a bit of exploring if an area off the beaten track seems to stand out a bit.

Finished the game. That was crazy.
I personally would give it a 9 or maximum 9.5 of 10. TLoU was a 10/10 for me.

I do understand why people may hate the game. When it comes to rating audience’s expectation vs what we got, it would be more like 3-5/10. There were multiple roads they could have taken with the game’s story. And one being that it is similar to the first one, which I think most fans would have loved.
But they took a completely different road (which was very brave) and well, a lot of people hate it. Especially when you have some kind of “moral bias”, since you love characters from the first game. Which is completely fine and might have even been expected by the devs.
This game was definitely not developed purely to please fans, but to show a possible “reality” for the characters that can make sense. And in that regard, the writing was very good, while being very uncomfortable.

I think think they could have done better story-wise to make everything more balanced from emotional aspect.

But I don’t feel the game has any plot holes, but people feel like it does. I will have to dig deeper.

@LieutenantFatman it's the exploration that is making this game for me, I've loved just looking around and seeing what people were doing at the end and finding the hero cards or other little treasures. This game has just been a joy to look around and see what there is or what you'll interact with, even just the brilliant map system and if anything it makes aspects like the skill tree look hopelessly outdated.

A few hours in and the game is very very good. Do I like the direction of the story? Not sure yet but that is the risk with any narrative driven game that takes risks.

@LieutenantFatman Yeah that is true. After my last post I obviously contradicted my self completely and went looking in every nook and cranny lol. But i wish I had explored a bit more earlier on when you open the first main gate in Seattle. There was at least on place marked on the map I had not been to I think.

@Rudy_Manchego I've not come across any thing really which I've been totally against in regards to the story so far. I think the arc has been quite natural from the first game. That may change the further I get, like you say those are the risks writers take, and you will not please all of the people all of the time. I don't envision me disliking the story a great deal though, unless it takes a drastic turn like Ellie popping out breakdancing and rapping with her homies.

"It wasn't about the bloodshed or revenge... The true treasure was the breakdancing we learnt along the way"

... Isn't that the moral of any good revenge story @JohnnyShoulder?

Stopped reading this thread for fear of risk of spoilers. 12 hours in now. It's a ***** masterpiece. Minor vague spoilers: