@Gamer83 Saying what others have said WARNING this comment is really long What eLarkos said Its funny how when a new visual tech comes to movies (e.g. HD, 3D, 4K) the first thing I want them to do is remake the classics so I can watch their brilliance all over again in stunning 3D (4k etc). Yet when it comes to games, people really have an issue with remaking classics. It really should be said for the people that dont know - These remakes are 95% of the time not made by the creative developers in the industry, the developers who develop the great new games that we are all longing for. Even in the case of TLoU remaster, yes it was ND however it would have been the ground level programers and developers making it. Not the high level creatives potentially working on the next great thing. If you are still worried that these games are stopping new original titles, I think you might need to realise that without these "easy cash" games no new AAA games could be made. The industry is rough at the moment And please reed this too http://wrd.cm/1fDVFY3
I think it's getting easier to see the bigger economic picture: Casual games maker King Digital (Candy Crush) is going public: http://www.cnbc.com/id/101519854 Casual japanese games company Gung Ho (Puzzle and Dragons) is making $: http://tech.fortune.cnn.com/2014/01/27/gungho-gaming/ Meanwhile companies like THQ are going under. PS3 and PS4 owners can hold up their noses at casual games, but they are taking their toll on the games industry. The ROI of multimillion dollar games is becoming too much of a risk. Look at the smaller games Squenix puts out, and Level 5, my current favorite game company w/ the likes of Dark Cloud, White Knight Chronicles, Rogue Galaxy and Ni No Kuni under it's belt is focusing on upcoming touchscreen friendly RPG Wonderflick: http://www.polygon.com/2013/11/21/5127278/level-5-boss-akihiro-hino-on-how-wonder-flick-links-up-consoles-with There are some games like COD and Madden that can still sell for $60, but not too may others. Too much competition. Better to spend $100,000 each making 10 attempts at the next Bejeweled or Angry Birds than $10 mil making Tomb Raider.
I don't think the big game AAA model is completely going away, but there will be less companies making them and less AAA games as a result. And the big companies that put out a big game every year or 2 or 3 will need to put out smaller indie like budget games as well. It's why EA bought Popcap. Rovio and Ronimo will be swallowed up eventually, but other indie companies will take their place. Only Majong will stand alone, their game is crack like no other.
@voodoo341 Nobody's called you anything but let me be the first one to actually call you a name YOU are nothing more then a troll therefore there is zero point in talking to you since all you wanna do is troll the comment section if that's all you wanna do fine go ahead be my guess i will ignore you from now on
@voodoo341 Last one and also what rjejr siad I think it's getting easier to see the bigger economic picture: Casual games maker King Digital (Candy Crush) is going public: http://www.cnbc.com/id/101519854 Casual japanese games company Gung Ho (Puzzle and Dragons) is making $: http://tech.fortune.cnn.com/2014/01/27/gungho-gaming/ Meanwhile companies like THQ are going under. PS3 and PS4 owners can hold up their noses at casual games, but they are taking their toll on the games industry. The ROI of multimillion dollar games is becoming too much of a risk. Look at the smaller games Squenix puts out, and Level 5, my current favorite game company w/ the likes of Dark Cloud, White Knight Chronicles, Rogue Galaxy and Ni No Kuni under it's belt is focusing on upcoming touchscreen friendly RPG Wonderflick: http://www.polygon.com/2013/11/21/5127278/level-5-boss-akihiro-hino-on-how-wonder-flick-links-up-consoles-with There are some games like COD and Madden that can still sell for $60, but not too may others. Too much competition. Better to spend $100,000 each making 10 attempts at the next Bejeweled or Angry Birds than $10 mil making Tomb Raider.
I don't think the big game AAA model is completely going away, but there will be less companies making them and less AAA games as a result. And the big companies that put out a big game every year or 2 or 3 will need to put out smaller indie like budget games as well. It's why EA bought Popcap. Rovio and Ronimo will be swallowed up eventually, but other indie companies will take their place. Only Majong will stand alone, their game is crack like no other.
@voodoo341 And also what ThreadShadow siad It's my belief that people don't understand that the second gaming crash is happening. It just looks so different from the first one. Traditional "triple A" games are taking a back seat because they are too expensive. They're part of the cause of this second crash. Triple A games have hit a critical mass and can't support themselves any longer. The money crunch is cutting all the fluff and this crash is taking everything back to basics. The bubble has burst. "Indie" gaming is the future because gaming has hit a new era. An era where a prominent "second" wave of talent powered by ease of distribution, and relative ease of "low" level funding, has emerged. A group of people similar to the talent that appeared in the 1970s and 80s who started the ball rolling in the first place. Companies know they've hit this new era too. Bankruptcies, mergers, and layoffs, everywhere. They know they've hit the wall and can't support themselves on traditional triple As anymore. That's why they are scrambling for this new talent. These are the designers and talents of the future industry. These will be leading new companies, dev teams etc. of their time. Creatively, they are at the same place as when it all began. Even though not everything they do looks 8-bit, I sometimes call this new era "8Bit2". They are starting new again at the beginning, and risks and creativity are starting to flourish again, like they did at the start. All that being said, Chasm caught my interest. Looks like what a side-scrolling FFVI would look like. The other side of the coin is the mobile industry. This is contributing to the second crash much in the same way Atari etc. did in the first crash. A marketplace flooded with thousands of low quality, free-to-pay, game "apps", all available on a myriad of devices. The consumers gave up then, and I can see them giving up again.
@voodoo341 What eLarkos said Its funny how when a new visual tech comes to movies (e.g. HD, 3D, 4K) the first thing I want them to do is remake the classics so I can watch their brilliance all over again in stunning 3D (4k etc). Yet when it comes to games, people really have an issue with remaking classics. It really should be said for the people that dont know - These remakes are 95% of the time not made by the creative developers in the industry, the developers who develop the great new games that we are all longing for. Even in the case of TLoU remaster, yes it was ND however it would have been the ground level programers and developers making it. Not the high level creatives potentially working on the next great thing. If you are still worried that these games are stopping new original titles, I think you might need to realise that without these "easy cash" games no new AAA games could be made. The industry is rough at the moment And http://wrd.cm/1fDVFY3
@Davros79 Yeah i understand where @voodoo341 is comeing from too but does he have to b*tch about it all the time? I mean come on give it a rast all ready man
Ah Screw all you debbie downers on here Oh look what's this positive Vita news that PushSquare hasn't reported on http://polygon.com/e/5629092 what the hell guys?
@Jazzer94 I don't think E3 is the be all end all of gameing events anymore also think those games would have been lost in the noise of E3 maybe e3 wasn't the right place for them
@Gamer83 I live in Houston TX i see more Xbox one ads on TV then i do PS4 ones guess it doesn't matter since the PS4 is still selling really well and yeah the marketing for PS4 has been leaps and bounds better then the marketing for PS3 was
Huge fan of Last Airbender ( and by Last Airbender i mean Avatar the Last Airbender as in the show not that god awful M knight shyamalan garbage! ) also love Korra so i'll def be picking this up
@ohhaime I agree it wasn't as good as Treehouse they didn't show that much new gameplay and like you say it was mostly just developer interviews with the devs listing off the bullet points of there games informative yes but not to entertaining hopefully Sony improves next year
@ohhaime @T7L3R Sony did the same thing as Nintendo they had live conversations with developers on Twitch go to Sony's playstation YouTube channel they uploaded all the E3 Twitch coverage videos there
@ELAWIS Everyone is entitled to there own opinion it's ok if you don't agree personally I don't agree either none of them won E3 in my opinion yeah they all had good conferences but they could've been better if there was a gun two my head and i had to choose I'd say Nintendo won why? because there event was more fun to watch they showed more fun looking games i still think none of them won E3 this year why? because to me there wasn't a clear cut winner this year it wasn't like last year were Sony obviously won none of them hands down won E3 not everyone thinks Nintendo won not everyone thinks Sony won not everyone thinks MS won
@WickedKnightAl Exactly people still think E3 is the be all end all of game conferences like Sony is supposed to show everything they've got there it's not that simple
@sinalefa Sadly no Naughty wasn't there Btw Sony uploaded all there Twitch E3 coverage videos to there youtube channel in case you wanted to watch some of the Dev interviews and the games they showed and talked about
@sinalefa Sony did the same thing as Nintendo they had live conversations with developers on Twitch unfortunately they didn't really show that much new gameplay
@Gamer83 I also thought Nintendo's event was awesome they got me this year now i want a WiiU also would've have liked some bigger reveals my only big disappointment was no last guardian aside from that and Shawn layden it was a good show gotta admit not a souls fan i didn't think Project Beast..aka Bloodborne would excite me but it did definitely keeping my eye on that one
@adf86 Yeah I'm sure Vita will get more attention at GamesCom and TGS don't know why people still think E3 is the be all end all of game conferences it used to be that but not anymore
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Re: Feature: 10 PS4, PS3, and Vita Reveals That We Reckon Will Happen at Gamescom 2014
@Gamer83 Saying what others have said WARNING this comment is really long
What eLarkos said Its funny how when a new visual tech comes to movies (e.g. HD, 3D, 4K) the first thing I want them to do is remake the classics so I can watch their brilliance all over again in stunning 3D (4k etc). Yet when it comes to games, people really have an issue with remaking classics.
It really should be said for the people that dont know - These remakes are 95% of the time not made by the creative developers in the industry, the developers who develop the great new games that we are all longing for. Even in the case of TLoU remaster, yes it was ND however it would have been the ground level programers and developers making it. Not the high level creatives potentially working on the next great thing.
If you are still worried that these games are stopping new original titles, I think you might need to realise that without these "easy cash" games no new AAA games could be made. The industry is rough at the moment And please reed this too http://wrd.cm/1fDVFY3
I think it's getting easier to see the bigger economic picture:
Casual games maker King Digital (Candy Crush) is going public:
http://www.cnbc.com/id/101519854
Casual japanese games company Gung Ho (Puzzle and Dragons) is making $:
http://tech.fortune.cnn.com/2014/01/27/gungho-gaming/
Meanwhile companies like THQ are going under.
PS3 and PS4 owners can hold up their noses at casual games, but they are taking their toll on the games industry. The ROI of multimillion dollar games is becoming too much of a risk. Look at the smaller games Squenix puts out, and Level 5, my current favorite game company w/ the likes of Dark Cloud, White Knight Chronicles, Rogue Galaxy and Ni No Kuni under it's belt is focusing on upcoming touchscreen friendly RPG Wonderflick:
http://www.polygon.com/2013/11/21/5127278/level-5-boss-akihiro-hino-on-how-wonder-flick-links-up-consoles-with
There are some games like COD and Madden that can still sell for $60, but not too may others. Too much competition. Better to spend $100,000 each making 10 attempts at the next Bejeweled or Angry Birds than $10 mil making Tomb Raider.
I don't think the big game AAA model is completely going away, but there will be less companies making them and less AAA games as a result. And the big companies that put out a big game every year or 2 or 3 will need to put out smaller indie like budget games as well. It's why EA bought Popcap.
Rovio and Ronimo will be swallowed up eventually, but other indie companies will take their place.
Only Majong will stand alone, their game is crack like no other.
Re: Feature: 10 PS4, PS3, and Vita Reveals That We Reckon Will Happen at Gamescom 2014
@get2sammyb @Reverandjames @ferrers405 Agreed!
Re: Sony Sued $5 Million Over PS4 Shooter Killzone: Shadow Fall's Graphics
Seriously!!? this is just sad he should be ashamed
Re: Fancy a Jill Sandwich? The Original Resident Evil Spooks PS4 in 1080p
@voodoo341 Once again your missing the point
Re: Fancy a Jill Sandwich? The Original Resident Evil Spooks PS4 in 1080p
@voodoo341 Nobody's called you anything but let me be the first one to actually call you a name YOU are nothing more then a troll therefore there is zero point in talking to you since all you wanna do is troll the comment section if that's all you wanna do fine go ahead be my guess i will ignore you from now on
Re: Fancy a Jill Sandwich? The Original Resident Evil Spooks PS4 in 1080p
@voodoo341 Last one and also what rjejr siad I think it's getting easier to see the bigger economic picture:
Casual games maker King Digital (Candy Crush) is going public:
http://www.cnbc.com/id/101519854
Casual japanese games company Gung Ho (Puzzle and Dragons) is making $:
http://tech.fortune.cnn.com/2014/01/27/gungho-gaming/
Meanwhile companies like THQ are going under.
PS3 and PS4 owners can hold up their noses at casual games, but they are taking their toll on the games industry. The ROI of multimillion dollar games is becoming too much of a risk. Look at the smaller games Squenix puts out, and Level 5, my current favorite game company w/ the likes of Dark Cloud, White Knight Chronicles, Rogue Galaxy and Ni No Kuni under it's belt is focusing on upcoming touchscreen friendly RPG Wonderflick:
http://www.polygon.com/2013/11/21/5127278/level-5-boss-akihiro-hino-on-how-wonder-flick-links-up-consoles-with
There are some games like COD and Madden that can still sell for $60, but not too may others. Too much competition. Better to spend $100,000 each making 10 attempts at the next Bejeweled or Angry Birds than $10 mil making Tomb Raider.
I don't think the big game AAA model is completely going away, but there will be less companies making them and less AAA games as a result. And the big companies that put out a big game every year or 2 or 3 will need to put out smaller indie like budget games as well. It's why EA bought Popcap.
Rovio and Ronimo will be swallowed up eventually, but other indie companies will take their place.
Only Majong will stand alone, their game is crack like no other.
Re: Fancy a Jill Sandwich? The Original Resident Evil Spooks PS4 in 1080p
@voodoo341 And also what ThreadShadow siad
It's my belief that people don't understand that the second gaming crash is happening. It just looks so different from the first one.
Traditional "triple A" games are taking a back seat because they are too expensive. They're part of the cause of this second crash. Triple A games have hit a critical mass and can't support themselves any longer. The money crunch is cutting all the fluff and this crash is taking everything back to basics. The bubble has burst. "Indie" gaming is the future because gaming has hit a new era. An era where a prominent "second" wave of talent powered by ease of distribution, and relative ease of "low" level funding, has emerged. A group of people similar to the talent that appeared in the 1970s and 80s who started the ball rolling in the first place.
Companies know they've hit this new era too. Bankruptcies, mergers, and layoffs, everywhere. They know they've hit the wall and can't support themselves on traditional triple As anymore. That's why they are scrambling for this new talent. These are the designers and talents of the future industry. These will be leading new companies, dev teams etc. of their time. Creatively, they are at the same place as when it all began.
Even though not everything they do looks 8-bit, I sometimes call this new era "8Bit2". They are starting new again at the beginning, and risks and creativity are starting to flourish again, like they did at the start.
All that being said, Chasm caught my interest. Looks like what a side-scrolling FFVI would look like.
The other side of the coin is the mobile industry. This is contributing to the second crash much in the same way Atari etc. did in the first crash. A marketplace flooded with thousands of low quality, free-to-pay, game "apps", all available on a myriad of devices. The consumers gave up then, and I can see them giving up again.
Re: Fancy a Jill Sandwich? The Original Resident Evil Spooks PS4 in 1080p
@voodoo341 What eLarkos said Its funny how when a new visual tech comes to movies (e.g. HD, 3D, 4K) the first thing I want them to do is remake the classics so I can watch their brilliance all over again in stunning 3D (4k etc). Yet when it comes to games, people really have an issue with remaking classics.
It really should be said for the people that dont know - These remakes are 95% of the time not made by the creative developers in the industry, the developers who develop the great new games that we are all longing for. Even in the case of TLoU remaster, yes it was ND however it would have been the ground level programers and developers making it. Not the high level creatives potentially working on the next great thing.
If you are still worried that these games are stopping new original titles, I think you might need to realise that without these "easy cash" games no new AAA games could be made. The industry is rough at the moment And http://wrd.cm/1fDVFY3
Re: Fancy a Jill Sandwich? The Original Resident Evil Spooks PS4 in 1080p
@Davros79 Yeah i understand where @voodoo341 is comeing from too but does he have to b*tch about it all the time? I mean come on give it a rast all ready man
Re: Fancy a Jill Sandwich? The Original Resident Evil Spooks PS4 in 1080p
Looking forward to this never played it
Re: Weirdness: What if Your PlayStation Could Transform into Optimus Prime?
I WANT THIS
Re: Weirdness: Final Fantasy Meets Batman With This New Play Arts Figure
This looks freaking awesome! to me and I'm not even a FF or KH fan
Re: Sony's Current Crop of Consoles Have Sold Over 100 Million Units
@eaglebob345 If i remember correctly they said they stop supporting PS3 around 2017 or 2018
Re: Sony's Current Crop of Consoles Have Sold Over 100 Million Units
@DHW I'm sure we're hear more about it soon
Re: Sony's Current Crop of Consoles Have Sold Over 100 Million Units
I'd say 9 million for PS4 84 million for PS3 10 million for Vita
Re: Could Minecraft Be the PlayStation Vita's Secret Killer App?
Ah Screw all you debbie downers on here Oh look what's this positive Vita news that PushSquare hasn't reported on http://polygon.com/e/5629092 what the hell guys?
Re: Shuhei Yoshida Doesn't Understand People Who Don't Like Indie Games
@adf86 Yeah i get what he means too i don't understand either don't understand why some people automatically dismiss indies
Re: Sorry, Freedom Wars Will Not Receive a Retail Release in Europe
@Bliquid Vita is not down! in fact it's up http://polygon.com/e/5629092
Re: Sony: There Are 'Many, Many' First-Party PS Vita Games in Production
@JaxonH Don't need to worry about sales huh? bigger userbase doesn't make a difference huh? okay then what do you say about this? http://www.polygon.com/2014/6/9/5793660/ubisoft-unreleased-wii-u-games
http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2013/06/ubisoft_scaling_back_support_for_wii_u_expects_price_cut_to_bolster_sales
Re: Sony: There Are 'Many, Many' First-Party PS Vita Games in Production
@Jazzer94 I don't think E3 is the be all end all of gameing events anymore also think those games would have been lost in the noise of E3 maybe e3 wasn't the right place for them
Re: Sony: There Are 'Many, Many' First-Party PS Vita Games in Production
@N711 I agree
Re: Sony: There Are 'Many, Many' First-Party PS Vita Games in Production
@Jazzer94 Why do they have to be announced at E3?
Re: Freedom Wars' English Story Trailer Will Leave You With a Raised Eyebrow
@ObviouslyAdachi Disagree i think this looks awesome!
Re: Sony Apologises for Powers E3 2014 Press Conference Error
@Paranoimia Exactly
Re: Sony Spends More on US TV Ads for the PS4 Than Microsoft Does for the Xbox One
@Gamer83 I live in Houston TX i see more Xbox one ads on TV then i do PS4 ones guess it doesn't matter since the PS4 is still selling really well and yeah the marketing for PS4 has been leaps and bounds better then the marketing for PS3 was
Re: Sony Spends More On US TV Ads For The PS4 Than Microsoft Does For The Xbox One
@ztpayne7 Yeah it's gotten way more exposure on YouTube then tv i see more Xbox one ads on tv then i do PS4 ones
Re: Bayonetta Studio Platinum Is Bringing Avatar Spin-Off Legend Of Korra To The PS3 and PS4
@FullbringIchigo I'm very sorry i brought it up lats all go back to pretending it never existed
Re: Bayonetta Studio Platinum Is Bringing Avatar Spin-Off Legend Of Korra To The PS3 and PS4
Also hope this comes to Vita too
Re: Bayonetta Studio Platinum Is Bringing Avatar Spin-Off Legend Of Korra To The PS3 and PS4
Huge fan of Last Airbender ( and by Last Airbender i mean Avatar the Last Airbender as in the show not that god awful M knight shyamalan garbage! ) also love Korra so i'll def be picking this up
Re: Does This New Project Morpheus Trailer Sell You On Sony's Virtual Reality Headset?
Don't need to sell me already sold
@N711 Yup! No Man's Sky and ABUZ would be great launch games for Morpheus
Re: Watch 12 Minutes of Freedom Wars Gameplay and Decide If It's a Sentence Worth Enduring
@-CraZed- Yes it's coming to the US as well
Re: Now a Second Sony Exec Says That the Firm's Not Making More 'Mega Budget' First-Party Vita Games
@ohhaime I agree
Re: Talking Point: Should Sony Ditch E3 Stage Shows Like Nintendo?
@ohhaime I agree it wasn't as good as Treehouse they didn't show that much new gameplay and like you say it was mostly just developer interviews with the devs listing off the bullet points of there games informative yes but not to entertaining hopefully Sony improves next year
Re: Talking Point: Should Sony Ditch E3 Stage Shows Like Nintendo?
@Paranoimia Was just thinking the same thing they should make a hybrid of the too i like your idea
Re: Talking Point: Should Sony Ditch E3 Stage Shows Like Nintendo?
@ohhaime @T7L3R Sony did the same thing as Nintendo they had live conversations with developers on Twitch go to Sony's playstation YouTube channel they uploaded all the E3 Twitch coverage videos there
Re: Talking Point: Should Sony Ditch E3 Stage Shows Like Nintendo?
@k_andersen Agree
Re: Nintendo Thumps PlayStation in E3 2014 Twitter Head-to-Head
@ELAWIS In the end it doesn't matter it's the gamers who win not them
Re: Nintendo Thumps PlayStation in E3 2014 Twitter Head-to-Head
@ELAWIS Everyone is entitled to there own opinion it's ok if you don't agree personally I don't agree either none of them won E3 in my opinion yeah they all had good conferences but they could've been better if there was a gun two my head and i had to choose I'd say Nintendo won why? because there event was more fun to watch they showed more fun looking games i still think none of them won E3 this year why? because to me there wasn't a clear cut winner this year it wasn't like last year were Sony obviously won none of them hands down won E3 not everyone thinks Nintendo won not everyone thinks Sony won not everyone thinks MS won
Re: E3 2014: You Should Expect More PS4 Announcements at GamesCom and TGS
@WickedKnightAl Exactly people still think E3 is the be all end all of game conferences like Sony is supposed to show everything they've got there it's not that simple
Re: Talking Point: How Did the Three Major Manufacturers Fare at E3 2014?
@sinalefa Sadly no Naughty wasn't there Btw Sony uploaded all there Twitch E3 coverage videos to there youtube channel in case you wanted to watch some of the Dev interviews and the games they showed and talked about
Re: Talking Point: How Did the Three Major Manufacturers Fare at E3 2014?
@sinalefa Sony did the same thing as Nintendo they had live conversations with developers on Twitch unfortunately they didn't really show that much new gameplay
Re: Talking Point: How Did the Three Major Manufacturers Fare at E3 2014?
I agree with everybody everyone had great conferences except EA
Re: Feature: Push Square's E3 2014 PlayStation Game of the Show - No Man's Sky
@OrbitScant 100% Agree! been saying that on here and twitter i also think ABZU would be a great Morpheus game too
Re: Feature: Push Square's E3 2014 PlayStation Game of the Show - No Man's Sky
Well deserved my other choices would be ABZU Batman Far Cry 4 and Destiny
Re: Round Up: What Happened During PlayStation's E3 2014 Press Conference?
@Trikeboy Yup i agree Nintendo's shows though 2012 and 2013 were pretty lackluster
Re: Round Up: What Happened During PlayStation's E3 2014 Press Conference?
@Gamer83 I also thought Nintendo's event was awesome they got me this year now i want a WiiU also would've have liked some bigger reveals my only big disappointment was no last guardian aside from that and Shawn layden it was a good show gotta admit not a souls fan i didn't think Project Beast..aka Bloodborne would excite me but it did definitely keeping my eye on that one
Re: E3 2014: This Footage Proves That The Order: 1886 Is PS4's Prettiest Game
@Reverandjames True det also most gamers suck nowadays
Re: Talking Point: What Does E3 2014 Tell Us About the Future of the PlayStation Vita?
@adf86 Yeah I'm sure Vita will get more attention at GamesCom and TGS don't know why people still think E3 is the be all end all of game conferences it used to be that but not anymore
Re: Round Up: What Happened During PlayStation's E3 2014 Press Conference?
Guess I'm the only one on this thread who liked Sony's conference aside from Shawn layden it was a good conference
Re: E3 2014: Fight Alongside Your Favourite Characters in Sword Art Online: Hollow Fragment
Love the show so i'll be def buying this