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@rjejr maybe 3rd party but there are barely any other fps first party games on Xbox other than halo and sea of thieves. I'm just saying that part was an unnecessary add on. I believe sso failed because of marketing. I don't remember any ads/commercials for that game, whereas I remember clearly seeing ads /commercials for games like the last guardian. Xbox has had horrible marketing all gen, and I believe sunset was a casualty of it.

Also lots of 3ps games do good on Xbox, quantum break was one of the best new ip launches for Xbox when it came out

@rjejr ..... You do know Xbox has 3rd person games right. Literally the game they just released on the 10th is 3rd person

@MistressTonberry they can't, they abandoned the trademark for scalebound recently

@JJ2 I feel you.... Iirc it was a mutual decision to cancel it, but I like that crackdown 3, even if it's not that wanted, got as much development as possible . The way it's been in developmental hell, you'd think that would be canceled

@JJ2 no one said it was all pg fault, Ms also are to blame because they moved up some of the deadlines, making it harder To meet and giving them more Mo ey without seeing much progress, . It was 50/50 on each side

@MistressTonberry they went down mostly because of Steve ballmer and others who wanted XBox to help leverage windows instead of just be about gaming. They didn't have good direction, bt hopefully now Phil can lead them to a level of success similar to the earlier to mid 360 days, more competition the better

@JJ2 well the biggest one is scalebound, and supposedly platinum games were using ms money on nier automata, they would constantly miss deadlines, stuff like that. Pretty sad that failed to come into fruition. Idrk what happened with fable legends

@Gamer83 sunset overdrive is an underrated gem that probably got overlooked because it was a silly kiddie looking shooter game instead of a dark Sci-Fi game. If released today, it would probably sell better because of the fortnite effect ( colorful silly shooters that can appeal to kids)

@JJ2
What ms is doing is basically what most big publishers do, inquire on buying a studio, I mean look at Thq Nordic , they've bought more studios than ms this yr.

@MistressTonberry what you said makes no sense, Ms that acquired rare in early 2000s was different than Ms today, plus rare chose to work with kinect for those very low yrs because they thought it was gonna be the next big gimmick like the wiimote.
Plus. Most of rares staff left before they were acquired, Nintendo had the chance to fully buy them bt chose not to because they saw the decline coming

@Rob_230 do you all really disregard the fact that they literally just made a new studio in June, they're doing a mix of both acquisitions and startups, bt start ups cost waaay more to do. I actually like both consoles and read up on a all these subjects, not hard to find.

@jdv95 if you watched the studio videos, or read articles on the subject, most if the studios acquired by Ms recently only did it BECAUSE they allowed creative freedom, I'm pretty sure ninja theory wouldn't be bought if they couldn't make ambitious games

@Bad-MuthaAdebisi BT, you know they did open a new studio, the initiative

@JimmyRowe1994 well nt only made one game for Sony, it's not like they made multiple exclusives. Their first game, kung fu chaos, was exclusive to XBox, then heavenly sword was for PS3, then 3 multiplatform games ( with hellblade being a timed exclusive because they couldn't afford to put the game on every platform at the same time, and PlayStations larger install base

@Gamer83 I think in the near future, Ms will let insomniac make SO sequel because of what one of the execs said ( going to support all new exclusive IPS this generation) and how much demand there is for another game... SO is coming close to having cult status

@HefHughner I hate when people try to bring up rare when rare was on the downfall before Microsoft bought them, alot of their games before being bought, started to go down in sales and ratings, alot of the talent from their acclaimed games already left, and Nintendo saw this coming that's why they didn't buy them. Also, it's all but been confirmed ( by name at least) that playground games is working on a single player open world fable game

@Fight_Teza_Fight thing is, some of Sony's biggest studios ( naughty dog and sucker punch) were bought like ninja theory and playground games were. Ms has to have some sort of top notch studios to start out to continue to grow to even think of branching off to make new studios( like the initiative)

@wiiware you do know re4 started as a GameCube exclusive