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Day 1 for me. It's something so special that I'd like to reward them for their achievement as much as I can. Usually I wait for a sale.

Noctis looks superb. Lightning is pretty cool, too.

@PuppetMaster oh, yeah. Absolutely. But I think EA is only interested in games that sell incredibly well as opposed to games that move a few million copies. Which means they'll probably focus on sports games.

@ChrisDeku well said.

@PuppetMaster one game selling relatively well isn't exactly "proof". But yes, several single player games have sold well enough for companies to keep making them. As someone who only plays single player games, I've very happy to see them succeed.

Also, any one else curious as to why they didn't mention how many copies it's sold so far? I think the only figure they released was crossing 1m sold a few months after its release.

Looks great, but the lack of third-person is an absolute dealbreaker for me. Never enjoyed a first-person game.

@PuppetMaster It was absolutely fantastic. At least we got Delta.

@get2sammyb I really think it would have. Because every single headline from that time paint Vita as a failure. And no one wants to buy a failure. Everyone wants to buy the popular/ hot item.

There was even an article claiming that the psvita isn't going to be released in the west at all, because of its performance in Japan. Public perception is incredibly critical when it comes to success. It affects people more than they realize or care to admit; there are even academic studies that prove this.

Yup. It's something I've been saying for quite a while and that no one brings up for some reason. It all went downhill from there.

The race to 10m is the most important and with a rocky start, the vita was doomed to fail. The snowball effect is too strong to ignore.

They all have the exact same problem. Sony, Valve, Nintendo and Microsoft. Nothing new and I really don't see the situation improving.

@carlos82 God of War 1 (ps4) did much better than God of War Ragnarok, despite both games not being simultaneous releases.

@GamingFan4Lyf Can you genuinely not see why some people feel this way? Many of us ps players also own powerful enough PCs to play these games. If Sony releases all its games on PC, then our purchase was a waste of money. I could have saved space and money. On top of that, we paid for these exclusives, while hundreds of thousands of PC only gamers get them for free through piracy.

At the same time, by releasing these awful ports, Sony is telling certain PC gamers who are interested in some ps franchises that they're not all that. Literally devaluing their brand.

It's that simple of a concept. I wonder what's so hard to get about it.

@piratemajima "Βut a huge majority of players buy their games"

Any source, Mr. Pirate?

@commentlife but God of War (the ps4 one) and Spidey 1 did much better.

@Zeldorf by all means, do speak for yourself.

@Stickleman I totally get it. It's probably the reason why the previous installments did so much better.

@breakneck yup. Makes perfect sense.

Very few bother buying these PC ports, because they don't like Sony and would rather pirate these games instead. At some point Sony will realize it's not worth devaluing their brand and focus on their home consoles.

@nomither6 in what sense was Xbox better than its competitor?

@Serpenterror but how many switch players actually play on the go? I think I read somewhere that most use it as a handheld at home.

Not really, but I don't mind. I have ps+ mostly for the older games I added to the collection over the years, plus the odd game from premium.

@LordFunkalot the usual anti-woke people. It was pretty intense and no-doubt influenced many who were on the fence.

Fable is all I care about.

@Stickleman I didn't see it as filler at all. It was integral to the story and the evolution of gameplay. Atreus went from an annoying kid to a powerful warrior. And he can only grow as he becomes an adult.

@RagnarLothbrok absolutely. It gets much better

@Darylb88 yeah, you can definitely ignore all the amazing games Sony has released and focus on the worst performing game. That makes sense when making a decision on a new console.

Sounds like you've already decided you're only getting a switch 2.

@thefourfoldroot1 people will always have the choice not to buy something. Even when something is cheap or there is no competition, it doesn't always sell well.

@breakneck plus most people buy whatever their friends or everyone else has.

Exclusives are important for a console to get enough hardcore players and become a success. After becoming a hit item, they don't matter much.

@Max_the_German you expected the new GTA coming out God knows when to impact the sales in December 2024?

@ButterySmooth30FPS take a look at his profile and you'll see if he's worth replying to.

I love anything and everything God of War, but I don't enjoy live service. I tried God of War: Ascension and I had fun for about an hour. Then I gave up. I'm sure I would have enjoyed it for a while.

@Shad361 you said people didn't want it. I explained why a game may not sell well even if people are interested in it.

@Shad361 I thought internet comments represented a minority and didn't matter?

@Shad361 or they are willing to spend the big bucks for games they're familiar with (Assassin's Creed, CoD, Fifa, etc), but are happy to wait to get smaller games for free or after a year when they get a substantial price cut.

I greatly enjoyed it back then, but I don't think I would now.

@rjejr but how many Mario games have we had since Mario vs Donkey Kong as opposed to God of War, Uncharted and the like?

Just imagine. Kratos Kart, Kratos Golf, Kratos tennis, Kratos Smash, Paper Kratos, Dr. Kratos etc.

@donv2135 very well said. I don't like the Nintendo switch much, but it's not like I'm gonna waste my time bashing it every time I get.

@Shad361 a 600 USD phone can do all that and more. Hell, a 200 USD one is more than fine. Yet millions upon millions buy the latest model for marginally better specs, or to have something to show off. When people want something, they find ways to buy it.

@GemDog669 yup. Gotta love internet experts.

@Shad361 nah. When people want something, they can afford it alright. See how well iphones, the latest Samsungs, etc sell.

@TerranIV very well said. It's one of those things that people in the marketing department need to highlight to the higher ups. Just like a strong library of first party games, even if the average gamer only plays CoD and sports games.

@Rodimusprime1313 good point. And if had strong numbers in the first couple of months, it could have easily snowballed into a success. But alas...

"And I don't know any games that actually support the back touch pad."

The excellent Tearaway comes to mind.

@Balosi there are also several excellent PSVR1 games like Pistol Whip that got a free update. So, it's like backwards compatibility, only better

@wiiware what makes it a gimmick exactly? Which games did you try in those two weeks?

@IOI I had the same problem while playing Astrobot, so I tend to choose on rails shooters or games that don't require your character to walk, like Beat Saber, Beat the Beats, Puzzling Places, etc.

@PuppetMaster I see. So, not much of splash, but better than no new IPs.

@PuppetMaster I wasn't aware of them. I suppose they didn't make much of a splash critically or commercially, unlike games like Ghost of Tsushima. More like Concrete Genie, perhaps?

@YoureTooSlowBro considering that they get 30% of all live service games, I think they could stop making them and simply focus on the much cheaper single player games. 30% of hundreds of millions is still a lot of money. Exclusives simply exist to have a big enough install base to profit from. They don't have to be that profitable themselves.

@Boxmonkey that won't be because of exclusives, but due to ps5 being way more expensive than ps4 was. They simply can't get costs down.

@rjejr I could be wrong, but I get the impression that Sony has dominated Game of the Year Awards since ps3 and Uncharted 2. Even when they don't win most Game of the Year awards, they received more nominations and awards than anyone else. Plus they've been creating new IPs, something that Nintendo hasn't by relying on Pokemon, Zelda and Mario.

Sackboy was a personal favourite, though admittedly without mass appeal or many awards. We can't possibly know if people will still talk about Astrobot in a few years, but I do know it got a ton of awards this year which is indicative of the quality games Sony has been releasing.

@Elitepatriot you may have not noticed by they still do story-driven games. Arguably better than they did during the ps3 days.

@Elitepatriot you may want to read your own comment again.