@ajay708 The 24 hour connection thing is the only part that bothers me and that's just rom the perspective of knowing someone with a 360 who doesn't have internet.
The Kinect being always on is something I quite like but I've heard there's a way to turn it off. Honestly I use google now and I hate that I have to go into the app to use it. I wish there was a way my phone was listening so when I say hey google it starts up.
Makes sense seeing as internal engine's are pretty hard to make and should last a long time. Uncharted Engine should last the rest of th next gen and shouldn't have to be replaced till a PS5. The Halo 4 engine is the same one used for the original combat evolved and that's going away next gen.
Not related too Naugty Dog but was it ever confirmed that Knack was using unreal engine 4 or was that just a rumor.
For the majority of the wider audience they really don't care if it focuses on games, as long as it plays it which Microsoft is counting on.
Still not sure why people would be agitated about the xbox one event however. Microsoft was pretty up front that the Reveal was for Hardware and console features and that this was going to be a three part story that would be finished at E3 and Build 2013. Hell Jeff from Giantbomb said that there were more mainstream/tech press at the xbox reveal than gaming press.
Still I think Sony's all games focused story is going to play up well ,leading up to launch at events like E3, Gamescon, and TGS. I'm not so sure how it might face u with everyone else as the idea of a gaming centric device while not dead is though of as such.
Sony is doing such a smart thing in how its handling its franchises that are moving to next gen. Killzone is known by SOny fans but isn't that popular and KZ3 didn't do so hot. By jumping 20 years into future and being a qusai reboot for Shadow Fall and Mercenary was a great idea.
@get2sammyb It depends on Kinect right? I know the Kinect One unit is doing so much more than the PS eye will be capable of doing but for the most basic stuff most games should transfer right?
Won't Sony benefit either way even more if they decide to go the anti consumer route. I mean if they don't decide to DRM used games than they have a marketing advantage against Microsoft but I haven't heard much complaining from the non hardcore about this. I'm would guess most consumers wouldn't care as long as it isn't blocking used games.
As described by Eurogamer this would mean that Sony would own their segment of the used game Market and would profit off of both used and new games.
As a company wouldn't that make more sense than to listen to people complaining who will buy the system either way. I mean the only oter alternatives are a system with no support and another console who would be doing the exact same thing
Sony and Microsoft faced heavy losses most off this generation so I would assume they would do everything they could to gain money before the consoles themselves reach profit per unit sold. Owning the used game Market would do this in spades later next year as more than early adopters go to purchase the systems.
expect sony is leaving it up to developers like Microsoft will. Destiny i just the first of a few games that will only play while online and others like watchdogs will lose alot when playing offline.
The subsidized price won't fool anyone and till sell well. Americans at least and pretty used to buying products this way such as phones and even entertainment devices from places like HSN or RAC. People don't mind they're paying more in the end if they're paying less up front.
@3Above Good Science- Kinect Adventures, Kinect Fun Labs MS LA- New studio based on TV style digital content MS Mobile gaming- Illomilo for windows phone platform next- new studio playful learning - new studio skybox sports - new studio Turn 10- Forza xbox live production- the south park xbla games. Lift London- New studio based on cloud gaming Soho Productions- the sesame street Kinect tv Press Play - max and the magic marker, Big Park- Joyride Black Tusk Studios - new studio MS Victoria- new studio
a lot of these studios have been formed or bought a bit after 343i was made to bring back Microsoft's first party after looking at sony. Most are working on either xbla games, AAA games, or Kinect titles. As well Lionhead and Rare have went through major restructuring since Phil Harrison has joined their European outfit.
@get2sammy Microsoft has been building up its studios since 2009. So far they have
343 Industries Good Science Studios Microsoft Studios LA MS Mobile gaming Platfrom next playful learning skybox sports Turn 10 Twisted Pixel xbox live production Rare Lionhead Lift London Soho Productions Press Play Big Park Black Tusk Studios MS Victoria
With Microsoft being already ramped down on 360 development it would be fool hardy to underestimate how quickly they could build a library between first party studios and third paty partners (crytek, epic, Signal Studios, etc).
Remember the ton of software support the 360 had upon launch till maybe 2010/2011.
I think a subsidy price mixed with Microsofts media hype train might be a problem.
Good to hear the studio won't be closing down. I blame Sony for not letting the game have more time in the oven as well as failing to properly market the title. There's a reason why smash bros has long development times.
Well you face the eventual problem of drive club II interfering with GT6. Really not sure why Sony decided to sign off two racing games that happen to be so similar in presentation and scope. (being a Video Game version of a Car catalog)
It would help if Drive Club was so far removed from what GT is. Its ne of the reasons why I picked up horizon despite getting forza 3 a few months before.
I don't think it would be a problem as long as the two games show they're pretty different from each other. No one complained that much about The Main Forza series compared to PPR or the Horizon series.
Hmm Sony is going to have to show me they mean this. Despite having a diverse lineup for the PS3 they ironic have far more shooter franchises than either Nintendo or Microsoft
The Hype train will run regardless since its a new console. Best to hold off till E3 to get maximum press coverage. Trying to drown out Microsoft has the possibility of backfiring.
I hope at this ear's e3 sony has separate events like Nintendo does for the the vita.
This really wouldn't bring all the attention back to the PS4. It would be a nice side event but most of the press would still be on the xbox train depending on what's announced.
Also this wouldn't take away from the xbox Hype since we would be following both consoles all the way to e3. Then right after E3 Microsoft is hosting the three day Build conference that's rumored to have a ton of developer stuff for the next xbox.
At this point i'm not sure if having a second event this close to E3 would be a good idea. Press conferences are usually booked months in advance and trying to pin a vague date to compete with Microsoft seems foolish.
This could really backfire with the Sony 2nd conference being buried not only by the Xbox event (lets be honest Microsoft has the momentum in the USA and will have the advantage of the new shiney in terms of media) but Google I/o is in may as well.
Getting a ton of indie support coupled with the PlayStation features will save the Vita in the eyes of gamers and get rid of the Vuta has no games narrative its had since launch.
On the commercial side of things this won't help the Vita that much. Since on consoles indie games are usually a nice thing that might be your favorite part of the console but not the reason why you buy one.
Well Nintendo is also being pretty proactive about publicly grabbing developers. They recently announced every Dev Kit comes with unity and is having a GDC panel on HTML development. Its encouraging to see Sony go hard to garner support for its system. You also have to remember they can publicly talk about stuff unlike Microsoft. I just wish these cofrences would be live streamed as well.
One thing to note is Paul Thurrott and Tom Warren who are pretty reputable Microsoft bloggers are pretty sure that the xbox reveal is next month. Alongside that Microsoft is hosting its three day Build Developer conference in June two weeks after E3.
Hopefully they get XBLA improved next gen and they mirror after the windows store.
Will say the game coming out later on Xbox was apart of the reason I didn't get it. Heard nothing but it being average to bad from my friends with PS+ so when I played the trail on Xbox it didn't grab me.
Yes ruined rare by having them put out their most successful game in the past ten years that got really good word of mouth. That was after them work on nothing but commercial failures with great critical reception. What bizzaro world do people live in where Kameo, Viva Pinata, Perfect Dark Zero, Kinect sports, and banjo nuts n bolts are bad games.
Yet the article conviently missed his next tweets about the creativity of the industry and his actual thoughts would be on this weeks podcast.
Also how is naming your gamer handle after something that was considered culturally relevant during his childhood stupid. You must hate all those guys with Nintendo or anime related usernames.
Was a great event for Sony to show what's its bringing to the table. Getting guys like Mark Cernay on the forefront shows the narrative Sony will have for the next couple of years.
Dead Rising Blue Dragon Lost Odyessy Infinte Undiscovery Tales of Vesperia (in america at least) Dead rising 2 prolouge Ninety nine nights Project Sylpheed Fire Pro Wrestling Almost every cave shooter has been on the 360 exclusivly
Ninja Blade Dead or alive 4 Haunt Diabolical pitch Crimson dragon Panzer Dragoon orta Phantom Dust Shenmue II
Cant wait to see what happens. Hopefully they can inplment it in current gen for a netlfix style system for ps3 and vita.
I do think this is going to make nintendo the odd man out again unless they buy onlive. Sony has bought these guys and Microsoft has deep roots in cloud computing and has probably started taking that toward gaming.
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Re: Store Update: 29th May 2013 (Europe)
I hope more games like Unearthed and Giana sisters become more common next gen.
Re: Kaz Hirai Asserts the PlayStation 4's Focus on Games
@ajay708
The 24 hour connection thing is the only part that bothers me and that's just rom the perspective of knowing someone with a 360 who doesn't have internet.
The Kinect being always on is something I quite like but I've heard there's a way to turn it off. Honestly I use google now and I hate that I have to go into the app to use it. I wish there was a way my phone was listening so when I say hey google it starts up.
Re: Naughty Dog Sticking with Existing Engine for PS4 Projects
@ajay708
Well one could have said the same about infamous and Killzone.
Re: Killzone: Shadow Fall Will Be Playable Once You've Downloaded the First Level
Aren't all Playstation 4 games supposed to support this?
Re: Naughty Dog Sticking with Existing Engine for PS4 Projects
Makes sense seeing as internal engine's are pretty hard to make and should last a long time. Uncharted Engine should last the rest of th next gen and shouldn't have to be replaced till a PS5. The Halo 4 engine is the same one used for the original combat evolved and that's going away next gen.
Not related too Naugty Dog but was it ever confirmed that Knack was using unreal engine 4 or was that just a rumor.
Re: Kaz Hirai Asserts the PlayStation 4's Focus on Games
So its the same thing as the one? good to know?
For the majority of the wider audience they really don't care if it focuses on games, as long as it plays it which Microsoft is counting on.
Still not sure why people would be agitated about the xbox one event however. Microsoft was pretty up front that the Reveal was for Hardware and console features and that this was going to be a three part story that would be finished at E3 and Build 2013. Hell Jeff from Giantbomb said that there were more mainstream/tech press at the xbox reveal than gaming press.
Still I think Sony's all games focused story is going to play up well ,leading up to launch at events like E3, Gamescon, and TGS. I'm not so sure how it might face u with everyone else as the idea of a gaming centric device while not dead is though of as such.
Re: Guerrilla Games Look Beyond the Orange Eyes of Killzone: Shadow Fall
Sony is doing such a smart thing in how its handling its franchises that are moving to next gen. Killzone is known by SOny fans but isn't that popular and KZ3 didn't do so hot. By jumping 20 years into future and being a qusai reboot for Shadow Fall and Mercenary was a great idea.
Re: PS4 Developers Required to Support Vita Remote Play
@get2sammyb
It depends on Kinect right? I know the Kinect One unit is doing so much more than the PS eye will be capable of doing but for the most basic stuff most games should transfer right?
Re: PS4 Developers Required to Support Vita Remote Play
Going to be uber expensive but a good feature for those already invested in PlayStation.
Re: Gamers Bombard PlayStation Executives with Used Game Pleas for PS4
@get2sammyb @TheRealBatman
Won't Sony benefit either way even more if they decide to go the anti consumer route. I mean if they don't decide to DRM used games than they have a marketing advantage against Microsoft but I haven't heard much complaining from the non hardcore about this. I'm would guess most consumers wouldn't care as long as it isn't blocking used games.
As described by Eurogamer this would mean that Sony would own their segment of the used game Market and would profit off of both used and new games.
As a company wouldn't that make more sense than to listen to people complaining who will buy the system either way. I mean the only oter alternatives are a system with no support and another console who would be doing the exact same thing
Sony and Microsoft faced heavy losses most off this generation so I would assume they would do everything they could to gain money before the consoles themselves reach profit per unit sold. Owning the used game Market would do this in spades later next year as more than early adopters go to purchase the systems.
Re: Here's Your First, Blurry Look at the Actual PlayStation 4 Console
I just blue myself.
Re: Yoshida: Always-Online Was Never an Option for PlayStation 4
@ShogunRok
Well they did have a patent for blocking used games which in some minds is just as bad. Good thing the pro consumer side got their way.
Re: Yoshida: Always-Online Was Never an Option for PlayStation 4
expect sony is leaving it up to developers like Microsoft will. Destiny i just the first of a few games that will only play while online and others like watchdogs will lose alot when playing offline.
Re: PlayStation 4 Takes Control of Game Informer Magazine
Re: Feature: Xbox Reveal - Microsoft's Biggest Threats to the PS4
@Zombie_Barioth
The subsidized price won't fool anyone and till sell well. Americans at least and pretty used to buying products this way such as phones and even entertainment devices from places like HSN or RAC. People don't mind they're paying more in the end if they're paying less up front.
Re: Feature: Xbox Reveal - Microsoft's Biggest Threats to the PS4
@3Above
Good Science- Kinect Adventures, Kinect Fun Labs
MS LA- New studio based on TV style digital content
MS Mobile gaming- Illomilo for windows phone
platform next- new studio
playful learning - new studio
skybox sports - new studio
Turn 10- Forza
xbox live production- the south park xbla games.
Lift London- New studio based on cloud gaming
Soho Productions- the sesame street Kinect tv
Press Play - max and the magic marker,
Big Park- Joyride
Black Tusk Studios - new studio
MS Victoria- new studio
a lot of these studios have been formed or bought a bit after 343i was made to bring back Microsoft's first party after looking at sony. Most are working on either xbla games, AAA games, or Kinect titles. As well Lionhead and Rare have went through major restructuring since Phil Harrison has joined their European outfit.
Re: Feature: Xbox Reveal - Microsoft's Biggest Threats to the PS4
@get2sammy
Microsoft has been building up its studios since 2009. So far they have
343 Industries
Good Science Studios
Microsoft Studios LA
MS Mobile gaming
Platfrom next
playful learning
skybox sports
Turn 10
Twisted Pixel
xbox live production
Rare
Lionhead
Lift London
Soho Productions
Press Play
Big Park
Black Tusk Studios
MS Victoria
With Microsoft being already ramped down on 360 development it would be fool hardy to underestimate how quickly they could build a library between first party studios and third paty partners (crytek, epic, Signal Studios, etc).
Remember the ton of software support the 360 had upon launch till maybe 2010/2011.
I think a subsidy price mixed with Microsofts media hype train might be a problem.
Re: Sony Doubles Profit Forecasts Ahead of Financial Report
The real test is next year when they won't have major buildings to sale.
Kaz is doing a good job at slowly working the company back up.
Re: PlayStation 4 Is Not the PS3's Successor, It's an 'Addition to the Family'
Like the DS was an addition to the family.
Re: PlayStation All-Stars Developer Working on a New Intellectual Property
Good to hear the studio won't be closing down. I blame Sony for not letting the game have more time in the oven as well as failing to properly market the title. There's a reason why smash bros has long development times.
Re: Rumour: Sorcery Developer Summoning New First-Person Shooter for PS4
Hmm from what I saw of the game it wasn't what I expected. I was hoping that this would have been Sonys answer to Zelda and Fable.
I love the world and art style and would love a sequel with more content.
Re: Talking Point: Is Sony Racing into Trouble with DriveClub on the PS4?
@Scrible
Not really when it means a waste of resoucres, and having two competing franchises that could cannablize each other.
Didn't sony face the same problem when hey had a few shooting games all come out in the same time span.
Re: Talking Point: Is Sony Racing into Trouble with DriveClub on the PS4?
Well you face the eventual problem of drive club II interfering with GT6. Really not sure why Sony decided to sign off two racing games that happen to be so similar in presentation and scope. (being a Video Game version of a Car catalog)
It would help if Drive Club was so far removed from what GT is. Its ne of the reasons why I picked up horizon despite getting forza 3 a few months before.
Re: Talking Point: Is Sony Racing into Trouble with DriveClub on the PS4?
@get2sammyb
I don't think it would be a problem as long as the two games show they're pretty different from each other. No one complained that much about The Main Forza series compared to PPR or the Horizon series.
Re: Shuhei Yoshida Doesn't Want All PS4 Games to be First-Person Shooters
Hmm Sony is going to have to show me they mean this. Despite having a diverse lineup for the PS3 they ironic have far more shooter franchises than either Nintendo or Microsoft
Re: Feature: Five Dormant Franchises That Deserve a Comeback on PS4
Wouldn't this list make more sense of old sony franchises.
Also one could argue that Half-life hasn't been buried since it takes place in the same universe as portal.
I voted mirror's edge
Re: Rumour: Sony Planning Second PS4 Unveiling Before E3
@ShogunRok
The Hype train will run regardless since its a new console. Best to hold off till E3 to get maximum press coverage. Trying to drown out Microsoft has the possibility of backfiring.
I hope at this ear's e3 sony has separate events like Nintendo does for the the vita.
Re: Rumour: Sony Planning Second PS4 Unveiling Before E3
@hydeks
This really wouldn't bring all the attention back to the PS4. It would be a nice side event but most of the press would still be on the xbox train depending on what's announced.
Also this wouldn't take away from the xbox Hype since we would be following both consoles all the way to e3. Then right after E3 Microsoft is hosting the three day Build conference that's rumored to have a ton of developer stuff for the next xbox.
At this point i'm not sure if having a second event this close to E3 would be a good idea. Press conferences are usually booked months in advance and trying to pin a vague date to compete with Microsoft seems foolish.
This could really backfire with the Sony 2nd conference being buried not only by the Xbox event (lets be honest Microsoft has the momentum in the USA and will have the advantage of the new shiney in terms of media) but Google I/o is in may as well.
Re: Could Mark Cerny and Yu Suzuki Be Discussing Shenmue III for PS4?
meh rather have a new outrun.
Re: Talking Point: Are Indie Games Enough to Save the PlayStation Vita?
Yes and No.
Getting a ton of indie support coupled with the PlayStation features will save the Vita in the eyes of gamers and get rid of the Vuta has no games narrative its had since launch.
On the commercial side of things this won't help the Vita that much. Since on consoles indie games are usually a nice thing that might be your favorite part of the console but not the reason why you buy one.
Re: Reaction: PlayStation 4 Catches Second Wind at GDC
Well Nintendo is also being pretty proactive about publicly grabbing developers. They recently announced every Dev Kit comes with unity and is having a GDC panel on HTML development.
Its encouraging to see Sony go hard to garner support for its system. You also have to remember they can publicly talk about stuff unlike Microsoft. I just wish these cofrences would be live streamed as well.
One thing to note is Paul Thurrott and Tom Warren who are pretty reputable Microsoft bloggers are pretty sure that the xbox reveal is next month. Alongside that Microsoft is hosting its three day Build Developer conference in June two weeks after E3.
Re: Retro City Rampage Extracted More Loot from PSN than Xbox and Steam
@3Above
Hopefully they get XBLA improved next gen and they mirror after the windows store.
Will say the game coming out later on Xbox was apart of the reason I didn't get it. Heard nothing but it being average to bad from my friends with PS+ so when I played the trail on Xbox it didn't grab me.
Re: Watch Jimmy Fallon Scream at Killzone: Shadow Fall Live on TV
Damn you Fallon you lucky man.
Re: Microsoft Takes a Shot at Sony's PlayStation 4 Reveal
@BlueProxy
Come again
Re: Microsoft Takes a Shot at Sony's PlayStation 4 Reveal
@Kage_88
Yes ruined rare by having them put out their most successful game in the past ten years that got really good word of mouth. That was after them work on nothing but commercial failures with great critical reception. What bizzaro world do people live in where Kameo, Viva Pinata, Perfect Dark Zero, Kinect sports, and banjo nuts n bolts are bad games.
Re: Microsoft Takes a Shot at Sony's PlayStation 4 Reveal
@hydeks
Yet the article conviently missed his next tweets about the creativity of the industry and his actual thoughts would be on this weeks podcast.
Also how is naming your gamer handle after something that was considered culturally relevant during his childhood stupid. You must hate all those guys with Nintendo or anime related usernames.
Re: Microsoft Takes a Shot at Sony's PlayStation 4 Reveal
What exactly do they have to be afraid about.
Re: Reaction: Practicality and Power Paves Positive Start for PS4
Was a great event for Sony to show what's its bringing to the table. Getting guys like Mark Cernay on the forefront shows the narrative Sony will have for the next couple of years.
Re: Microsoft Takes a Shot at Sony's PlayStation 4 Reveal
@Ginkgo
Yep they such great things as watchdogs running on PC.
Re: Microsoft Takes a Shot at Sony's PlayStation 4 Reveal
Couldn't you say the same thing about the adverts Sony put up leading up to the PlayStation meeting. I mean how is this even considered news?
Dude is the programing and PR director for Xbox so how does that make him a corporate slut?
@hydeks
Major nelson is derived from the name of the main character of I dream of Jeannie.
Re: Feature: Here's Every PlayStation 4 Game We Know About
Knack looks like a PS1 style platformer.
Re: Talking Point: What if the PS4 Is Not Backward Compatible?
For digital content BC is a must. I would hope my XBLA/PSN investments would transfer over to the new system without problems.
Re: Guerrilla Gearing Up for Biggest Year Since First Killzone Launch
New IP for PS4/Vita
Re: Talking Point: Could 2013 Be the PlayStation 3's Biggest Year Yet?
@Zombie_Barioth
Its rumored that microsoft is going to be selling a subsidized version of the nextgen xbox for $99-$199.
Also Sly Cooper is a great reason to buy a ps3.
Re: Talking Point: Could 2013 Be the PlayStation 3's Biggest Year Yet?
Gotta hit dat Stride.
Re: Rumour: Developers Have More Confidence in the Xbox 720 than the PS4
@Hokori
Dead Rising
Blue Dragon
Lost Odyessy
Infinte Undiscovery
Tales of Vesperia (in america at least)
Dead rising 2 prolouge
Ninety nine nights
Project Sylpheed
Fire Pro Wrestling
Almost every cave shooter has been on the 360 exclusivly
Ninja Blade
Dead or alive 4
Haunt
Diabolical pitch
Crimson dragon
Panzer Dragoon orta
Phantom Dust
Shenmue II
Re: Rumour: Developers Have More Confidence in the Xbox 720 than the PS4
@Hokori
For all of your hate of microsoft the 360 early on had a ton of japanese support and still has a quite a bit to this day.
Won't backwards compatability be a no go on the PS4 due to lack of cell. Can't see pubs and consumers having their digital cataloufe taken away.
Re: Review: The Walking Dead: A Telltale Games Series (PlayStation 3)
Best game I've played this year.
Re: Cyborg and Nightwing Glide into Injustice: Gods Among Us
All yeah my man.
Re: Talking Point: Sony's Gaikai Acquisition Hints at a Bright Future
Cant wait to see what happens. Hopefully they can inplment it in current gen for a netlfix style system for ps3 and vita.
I do think this is going to make nintendo the odd man out again unless they buy onlive. Sony has bought these guys and Microsoft has deep roots in cloud computing and has probably started taking that toward gaming.