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BearsEatBeets

@FuriousMachine Now you mention it that does a ring a bell regarding the 60's setting. Another bizarre idea and can only assume there is going to be some kind of teleporting/dimension hoping near the end so that they can tie in with the rest of the MCU.
Ultimately I think the desire to have all the films be 'connected' is just going to get more and more convoluted and messy. They did a great job to just about pull it off up to Endgame.
Can't say I'm familiar with Thunderbolts but sometimes that can help with the enjoyment of the films if you have no preconception of how it should be going in.

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FuriousMachine

@BearsEatBeets I fully expect them to wind up in the Negative Zone or similar at one point (I say "similar" because with the Quantum Realm and the TVA realm already in play, I suppose they'll probably want to avoid adding yet another realm that can displace them in space/time, not trusting their audience to be able to grasp that much variety. See also: distrusting audiences to grasp variety in actors).
Not sure how that would fit with the Galactus thing, though, but I don't believe they'll spend much time on earth, at least.
It is speculated that Avengers: Secret Wars will serve as the cap to the entire MCU thus far and provide a soft reboot. Maybe they'll loosen up the "everything is connected" thing after that. I only know that I fully expect every post-Secret Wars role to be played by Robert Downey Junior.

FuriousMachine

FuriousMachine

@CJD87 I agree 100% with the notion that they simply should have recast Kang instead of going with Doom, but that would mean leaning even heavier into the multiverse things, and that has not gone over well with audiences, to say the least. I think going the Doom route is not only to handle the Majors problem, but maybe also tone down the multiverse stuff. Can't say I'll miss the multiverse, it is lazy and while I loved the cameos in D&W, I don't want the MCU to simply re-heat old characters and actors (which is why I was against bringing Jackman back, too... it worked in Deadpool, but I do indeed worry that they'll make him play Logan 'till he's 90).
And, yeah, Nikolaj Coster-Waldau (Jaime from GoT) would make great Doom, but they could even go with a relative unknown, as Doom absolutely should be masked and/or disfigured for 99% of the movie (allowing for 1% if they insist on doing the origin story). I worry that we'll get a Stallone/Judge Dredd situation here. And that's the thing, I've tried to be accepting of RDJ as Doom with him only doing voicework and nothing else, but I don't think they'll go that route and we'll end up getting notes of Tony Stark in our Doom.

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CJD87

@FuriousMachine Yeah the whole MCU has been a bit of a hot mess post-Endgame, with a few notable highlight amongst a sea of mediocrity.

RDJ is a class act, and was/is phenomenal as Tony, but it just seems to senseless to cast him in another separate high-profile role - it just reeks of confusion, and I just can't see how it will work well.

As for multiversal escapades.... I'm just so over it. Also had enough of every movie needing to tie into other multiple franchise entries (TV or Movies) whilst trying also to serve as a standalone narrative.
Its exhausting, and also makes me feel like the stakes are never 'really real' - any character can reappear of be brought back to life via Multiverse shenanigans. At least Deadpool 3 was pretty funny, and generally a pretty entertaining 2 hours.

I guess tough for Marvel/Disney though as that initial run from Iron Man - - -> Endgame was a decade of majority-hits, with very few misses. Films like The Winter Soldier, Civil War, Homecoming.... all seem like a million miles away from today in terms of quality.

I guess time will tell, but superhero fatique is definitely a thing.

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nessisonett

@CJD87 If it was somehow impossible for them to get a Romani actor for Doom considering they whitewashed Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver (to the extent that they were working for Nazis despite being Romani)… I’d have taken Julian McMahon or Toby Kebbell over RDJ despite their takes on the character previously being terrible. But still, this is the company who struck gold with Iman Vellani for Ms Marvel. They also found Alaqua Cox who is a young Native American deaf amputee and a brilliant actress who could also pull off the fight scenes required for Echo, to the point she got her own show as her performance was widely praised. It can’t be this difficult to get Doom right but it’s sure as hell easy to get him wrong.

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Th3solution

@CJD87 Amen to the “had enough of every movie needing to tie into other multiple franchise entries (TV or Movies) whilst trying also to serve as a standalone narrative.” Both Marvel and Star Wars have almost alienated me entirely because of the sheer quantity of intertwined shows and movies. It’s the movie/TV version of the Legend of Heroes phenomenon. 😅

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Yousef-

@Th3solution what’s crazy is that they want it both ways. In every way. They wanna take risks, without taking any. They wanna seem bold, but give the same ol same ol. They wanna seem daring, but they’re as accommodative as ever. You cannot take risks without, Y’know, taking risks.

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CJD87

@nessisonett Yes Marvel loves a good white-washing, no doubt about it.

I just find the RDJ casting to be utterly bizarre on so many levels.....Deadpool was right to warn Logan about it being a 'low point' ha

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Yousef-

@Malaise no, it started with The Incredible Hulk.

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Yousef-

@Malaise 🤣 you’re not alone.
Yeah the 2003 hulk is its own thing.
Yeah both were 2008.
Don’t worry about cherry picking. I think it’d be quite exhausting to watch all films that came out in the sixteen years.

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Malaise wrote:

@Yousef- A good friend of mine is a super fan and I know she'd love nothing more than to binge watch a few Marvel films with a running commentary to fill in all the gaps, perhaps I'll indulge her with a day of films of her choosing as long as she brings the snacks. Upon a cursory glance at upcoming productions, I would be interested in the Fantastic Four and Blade films.

Blade and FF were some of my favorites amongst the non MCU marvel films, I look forward to the new films too. : D

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JohnnyShoulder

@Malaise I think around Infinity War I started to lose interest. Felt too much like hard work trying to keep up with everything. Apart from the Spider-verse movies and The Batman, I've not enjoyed much since and I've not seen everything. Which I used to, just have little interest comic book films these days.

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