@Th3solution The game itself didn't touch any subject as far as we know that's why the korean government didn't do something to stop the release. It was the developer who made de comparison.
Now, this was actually good PR for Sony. Other reports have claimed korean users have praised the move from Sony to put the game out completely from Korea.
Sony investing so much money in Korea right now was probably the reason they acted so quick. So it looks like it won't have any consequences for Sony.
The problem is actually for KT LOL, Sony is one of the biggest income sources they have and this could actually ruin that relationship so hopefully they apologize or something.
@DiddyWahDiddy for good games it doesn't matter if they are services or not*
Many people who complain about services don't want to acknowledge there is a reason why the most popular ones are successful, and the reason is because they are FUN (to their user objective).
If they print the Halo MC I would buy that just for the fun of it having the ps5 banner. Other than that Grounded and KI. I was lucky because nothing big MS bought in the ps4/5 era was of my interest, Obsidian was the only studio that was a loss.
@K-Wud your opinion is respected but the 2 core ideas are things pc players don't want. They don't want to pay for prebuild pcs and they don't want to use other launchers to play games, that's why ms started releasing blizzard games on steam.
I feel like the guys at Bend Studios have a lot of heart, they work pr like few studios. Days Gone was just the wrong project with a manchild director.
I really hope they show something great next time.
@TheCollector316 once EVO Europe is up and running I wouldn't be surprised. Bungie is/was working in what they called a "fighter" but after last year maybe that never happens.
@Deoxyr1bose Sony doesn't decide everything, that's true. But the same way the EVO GM always answered the "where is ki" with "we have to ask". If you made millions with a partner who happens to have a fg and would benefit from some exposition you can do the same, ask.
@HotGoomba no one, everyone will focus on cloud while Nintendo and Sony do their thing. It'll be like buying an analog radio in 2024 (which btw Sony keeps making)
What some people need to understand is companies only care about not losing money. MS will make even more money = more gp games = gp is everywhere= people less interested in not nintendo consoles. Internet tec is catching. Sony needs reasons for people to keep buying and they have their own problems, the service dream is over, bungie doesn' know how to do business anymore, etc. Sony president has said cloud is the next focus, well MS has the lead so this is far from "Sony not trying because they won".
This is awesome, I remember watching this two years ago and wishing for a ps ver. but these games only come to consoles with direct investment from console owners like MS with Valheim.
Well looks like Sony secured V Rising and I will be there day 1.
@Deoxyr1bose maybe once it is on the next switch it will but persona 5 took 2 versions, 5 consoles and pc to sell 5 millions. A very divisive FF16 took 5 days to sell 3 million + sony paying a huge part of development costs + sony paying the marketing (the last 2 apply for 7r too). Between SE and Sega, SE has a bigger chance of making more revenue in one month (I don't say February because FF releases the 29th of a month that usually has only 28 days LOL)
What is funny is that this game is japanese I thought it was korean all this time. They sure didn't give a f*ck about AI stealing Pokemon or Ghibli LOL.
I don't know if this has mt but if it doesn't I don't think MS will care if it's exclusive or not, the sales are already in, the early access will lose hype with time.
@nomither6 this is awfully close to the ideology MS has/had behind the idea of hostile takeover over Nintendo so ... if it's just competition and not "Nintendo on pc" then that's cool.
@ATaco because they cost (dev time, servers, power, etc) way more than what mt can make, take fighting games as example. People said f2p was the way to go, multiversus came out with big numbers ... and then died the same year. FG NEED the sales from people who will only play 2 months to exist. And just like that other games.
Veteran Japanese devs are always talking about the next generations, they love the industry and they want new blood taking the lead role. I think that is a beautiful mindset.
Meanwhile dev who worked half his life at ND decides to retire saying he doesn't have any problems with Sony and ND is in great hands ... and the doomers: "Oh no Sony what are you doing!" LOL
@TheCollector316 and they are actually. Square Enix, the VR ver. of RE with Capcom, KT, Hoyo, Shift up and the korean mmorp company. Some people think because they aren't focused in japan they don't care about asia but they are putting more money there than ever.
@naruball still better than no profit lol. It's like the psp , a HUGE chunk of people who had one didn't play games, it was one of the best accessible mp3 players of the moment so it is what it is. But you actually see the real money comes from services so that's cool (and that's why they invested in Hoyo before it was cool).
"Hardware strong, software not" let it go man lol. If they want to buy the ps5 and use it to watch vtubers that's great. MS would take that deal any day.
Overall pretty nice stuff but I feel like second party is highly underestimated in general. It's not like Harry Potter is going to carry ps this year. Those games don't "happen to be" on PS, Sony paid those games, in many cases they even put their own devs to help and they are as valuable as first party games. Helldivers at 40 can mean a lot for smaller ps games in the future.
What I think is going to happen:
-PS5Pro is revealed and released this year.
-Stellar Blade is this year November release.
-PS will announce something releasing this year second half, most likely GOW remaster.
-ND or/and Santa Monica will announce their new IPs and at least one will be sifi. Cory made a lot of space related comments after saying he was working in something different than GOW, there were rumors of ND going fantasy (I would love that) but there were more about they also going sifi.
What I want:
-To see the plan for the future of their studios
-More commitment to smaller games
-Sony to acquire something japanese. If it happens it will be something small (no Capcom, Bandai or even SE) but I think there is a chance with KoeiTecmo, it is small compared with other big names and the relationship with Sony is stronger than ever, Sony has for the first time ww publishing rights for one of their games (KT published the Niohs in Japan) and together they bought 1/5 of Akatsuki, looking almost too intentional.
It probably won't happen but I think if Sony makes a push they can get it. Personally Ninja Gaiden was the reason why I got an original xbox when I was a kid, it as a PlayStation ip would be FANTASTIC for me.
I have to say I'm pleased to see Helldivers in the top 50 of most wishlisted on steam and the $60 ver is more popular than the $40 one. The community really was waiting for this.
@KundaliniRising333 the thing is Helldivers 2 is like Helldiver 1 (a 9 years old game that still has players) but with way more budget. It's a co-op shooter (I can't call "another" to a game with that kind of history behind but fell free to so), and you battle waves of enemies, there are different kind of missions in different planets with different enemies and difficulties. The maps are indeed procedural. No PVP. If it has story or not is to be seen. This is the kind of game that plays best with friends but if that doesn't sound "enough" that's the reason why it is $40 in the 70 age lol.
They 100% will do something for FF but i want rise of the ronin and helldivers. If it happens will be a SoP not a Showcase so I hope Sammy doesn't melt after watching it lol.
@zhoont don't be concerned, if there is a studio that communicates their focus and confidence that's Arrowhead and they sound really happy with what they have to show.
People actually buying what they ask for would have been very helpful to get the third port ... but never say never, who knows maybe they make Patapon the next Pingu lol
This is one I would LOVE to know % by platform, beyond Sony that should be very pleased getting the marketing rights, knowing how many people got it for ps4, one and Switch would be great.
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Re: Rise of the Ronin's Korean Release Cancelled Following Commentary Controversy
@Th3solution The game itself didn't touch any subject as far as we know that's why the korean government didn't do something to stop the release. It was the developer who made de comparison.
Now, this was actually good PR for Sony. Other reports have claimed korean users have praised the move from Sony to put the game out completely from Korea.
Sony investing so much money in Korea right now was probably the reason they acted so quick. So it looks like it won't have any consequences for Sony.
The problem is actually for KT LOL, Sony is one of the biggest income sources they have and this could actually ruin that relationship so hopefully they apologize or something.
Re: Helldivers 2 (PS5) - The Best Co-Op Shooter on PS5
Great review. I'm so happy Arrowhead is getting the lights they deserve, such good developers with love for their community and their product.
After almost 10 years of working exclusively for PS it's time for Sony to put them a ring.
Re: Helldivers 2 (PS5) - The Best Co-Op Shooter on PS5
@DiddyWahDiddy for good games it doesn't matter if they are services or not*
Many people who complain about services don't want to acknowledge there is a reason why the most popular ones are successful, and the reason is because they are FUN (to their user objective).
Re: UK Sales Charts: Helldivers 2 PS5 Drops into the Top 10
Great numbers for a great game from great devs.
Re: Poll: Which Xbox Franchises Would You Buy on PS5?
If they print the Halo MC I would buy that just for the fun of it having the ps5 banner. Other than that Grounded and KI. I was lucky because nothing big MS bought in the ps4/5 era was of my interest, Obsidian was the only studio that was a loss.
Re: Microsoft Employee Inadvertently Adds More Fuel to the Xbox Multiplatform Fire
@K-Wud your opinion is respected but the 2 core ideas are things pc players don't want. They don't want to pay for prebuild pcs and they don't want to use other launchers to play games, that's why ms started releasing blizzard games on steam.
Re: Disney Secures $1.5 Billion Stake in Epic Games, Plans 'Entertainment Universe' in Fortnite
@Dodoo thanks
Re: Disney Secures $1.5 Billion Stake in Epic Games, Plans 'Entertainment Universe' in Fortnite
I wonder what % is $1.5 billion today compared with the $1.45 from Sony 2 years ago.
Re: Helldivers 2 Pre-Orders Are Big on PS5, PC, Currently Outselling Palworld in US
I'll be doing my part (if Amazon doesn't fail me)
Re: PS5, PS4 First-Party Devs Won't Get Complacent Even if Competition Degrades
I feel like the guys at Bend Studios have a lot of heart, they work pr like few studios. Days Gone was just the wrong project with a manchild director.
I really hope they show something great next time.
Re: Stellar Blade Director Says 'Korean NieR' Comparison Is a 'Great Honour'
That SoP was wild.
Re: Evo 2024 Games Announced, Tekken 8 and Street Fighter 6 Headline
@TheCollector316 once EVO Europe is up and running I wouldn't be surprised. Bungie is/was working in what they called a "fighter" but after last year maybe that never happens.
Re: Evo 2024 Games Announced, Tekken 8 and Street Fighter 6 Headline
@Deoxyr1bose Sony doesn't decide everything, that's true. But the same way the EVO GM always answered the "where is ki" with "we have to ask". If you made millions with a partner who happens to have a fg and would benefit from some exposition you can do the same, ask.
Re: Evo 2024 Games Announced, Tekken 8 and Street Fighter 6 Headline
@Deoxyr1bose after Hogwarts success the PS-WB partnership is something both parties won't let go for now. MK had an invitation all the time.
Re: Evo 2024 Games Announced, Tekken 8 and Street Fighter 6 Headline
If xbox goes 3rd party KI can be a retro tournament in the future, Sony already gave it some love last year. A PS port could help a lot LOL.
Re: Helldivers 2 Outlines the Story So Far in Stylish Trailer, Confirms Post-Launch Updates
ArrowHead has the style and personality you should expect from people who live making vg. It's time for Sony to put them a ring.
Re: Xbox Set to Announce Multi-Platform Plans Next Week
@get2sammyb this is it!
Re: Xbox Set to Announce Multi-Platform Plans Next Week
Wouldn't it be funny if everything is a lie and the announcement is the all digital series x?
Re: Rugrats: Adventures in Gameland Brings Nostalgic Side-Scrolling Fun to PS5, PS4 in March
What I would pay for a "Aaahh!!! Real Monsters" snes game remake.
Re: Rumour: Even Gears of War Is Reportedly in Talks to Come to PlayStation
@tangyzesty and I don't care if you care about cloud or not LOL. My opinion was about the big companies not consumers.
Re: Rumour: Even Gears of War Is Reportedly in Talks to Come to PlayStation
@HotGoomba no one, everyone will focus on cloud while Nintendo and Sony do their thing. It'll be like buying an analog radio in 2024 (which btw Sony keeps making)
Re: One of PS5's Most Promising Games Just Got a Seriously Stylish Trailer, Demo on the Way
Korean and chinese games are real and are starting to drop. Welcome to the new age
Re: Rumour: Even More Xbox Exclusives Coming to PS5 Than Already Reported
@nomither6 couple years? You mean the lockdown years that made every multi million project in existence get delay?
Re: Rumour: Even More Xbox Exclusives Coming to PS5 Than Already Reported
What some people need to understand is companies only care about not losing money. MS will make even more money = more gp games = gp is everywhere= people less interested in not nintendo consoles.
Internet tec is catching. Sony needs reasons for people to keep buying and they have their own problems, the service dream is over, bungie doesn' know how to do business anymore, etc.
Sony president has said cloud is the next focus, well MS has the lead so this is far from "Sony not trying because they won".
Re: Rumour: Xbox's Indiana Jones Game Also Being 'Considered' for PS5
TBH the only xbox game I want to play is Grounded, Machine are great devs tho.
Re: Rumour: Xbox Console Exclusive Starfield Is Setting a Course for PS5
Those crazy twitter guys who said MS was only buying to go 3rd party were right LOL
Re: Preview: Helldivers 2 Utterly Revels in Its Chaotic Bug Battles
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Re: Hit Vampire RPG V Rising Arrives on PS5 This Year
This is awesome, I remember watching this two years ago and wishing for a ps ver. but these games only come to consoles with direct investment from console owners like MS with Valheim.
Well looks like Sony secured V Rising and I will be there day 1.
Re: New Guitar Controller for Fortnite Festival, Rock Band 4 Revealed for PS5, PS4
If this works for Clone Hero I'm so in.
Re: Japan's Shibuya Station Decked Out with Awesome Persona 3 Reload Ads
@Deoxyr1bose maybe once it is on the next switch it will but persona 5 took 2 versions, 5 consoles and pc to sell 5 millions. A very divisive FF16 took 5 days to sell 3 million + sony paying a huge part of development costs + sony paying the marketing (the last 2 apply for 7r too). Between SE and Sega, SE has a bigger chance of making more revenue in one month (I don't say February because FF releases the 29th of a month that usually has only 28 days LOL)
Re: Acclaimed Platformer Celeste Celebrates Sixth Anniversary with Free 3D Spin-Off
Saw a video of a guy who maid some celeste leves in 3D with their blessing so I guess the result was good enough for the devs to make their own.
Re: Shuhei Yoshida Eyes 'Pokemon with Guns' Phenomena Palworld for PS5
What is funny is that this game is japanese I thought it was korean all this time. They sure didn't give a f*ck about AI stealing Pokemon or Ghibli LOL.
I don't know if this has mt but if it doesn't I don't think MS will care if it's exclusive or not, the sales are already in, the early access will lose hype with time.
Re: Shuhei Yoshida Eyes 'Pokemon with Guns' Phenomena Palworld for PS5
@nomither6 this is awfully close to the ideology MS has/had behind the idea of hostile takeover over Nintendo so ... if it's just competition and not "Nintendo on pc" then that's cool.
Re: Foamstars Releases 6th February as a PS Plus Essential Game
@ATaco because they cost (dev time, servers, power, etc) way more than what mt can make, take fighting games as example. People said f2p was the way to go, multiversus came out with big numbers ... and then died the same year. FG NEED the sales from people who will only play 2 months to exist. And just like that other games.
Re: Prison Architect 2 Announced, Sequel Goes Fully 3D on PS5 in March
Hate when great 2d games go full 3d (Pokemon, Darkest dungeon, KOF, etc) but that dog looks cute so they have my interest.
Re: Naoki Yoshida Thinks New Blood Is Needed to Direct Final Fantasy 17
Veteran Japanese devs are always talking about the next generations, they love the industry and they want new blood taking the lead role. I think that is a beautiful mindset.
Meanwhile dev who worked half his life at ND decides to retire saying he doesn't have any problems with Sony and ND is in great hands ... and the doomers: "Oh no Sony what are you doing!" LOL
Re: PS5 Had Sony's Best Year in Japan for Almost 20 Years
@TheCollector316 and they are actually. Square Enix, the VR ver. of RE with Capcom, KT, Hoyo, Shift up and the korean mmorp company. Some people think because they aren't focused in japan they don't care about asia but they are putting more money there than ever.
Re: PS5 Had Sony's Best Year in Japan for Almost 20 Years
@naruball still better than no profit lol. It's like the psp , a HUGE chunk of people who had one didn't play games, it was one of the best accessible mp3 players of the moment so it is what it is. But you actually see the real money comes from services so that's cool (and that's why they invested in Hoyo before it was cool).
Re: PS5 Had Sony's Best Year in Japan for Almost 20 Years
"Hardware strong, software not" let it go man lol. If they want to buy the ps5 and use it to watch vtubers that's great. MS would take that deal any day.
Re: 18 PS5 Predictions for 2024
Overall pretty nice stuff but I feel like second party is highly underestimated in general. It's not like Harry Potter is going to carry ps this year. Those games don't "happen to be" on PS, Sony paid those games, in many cases they even put their own devs to help and they are as valuable as first party games. Helldivers at 40 can mean a lot for smaller ps games in the future.
Re: Talking Point: What Do You Want from Sony and PlayStation in 2024?
What I think is going to happen:
-PS5Pro is revealed and released this year.
-Stellar Blade is this year November release.
-PS will announce something releasing this year second half, most likely GOW remaster.
-ND or/and Santa Monica will announce their new IPs and at least one will be sifi. Cory made a lot of space related comments after saying he was working in something different than GOW, there were rumors of ND going fantasy (I would love that) but there were more about they also going sifi.
What I want:
-To see the plan for the future of their studios
-More commitment to smaller games
-Sony to acquire something japanese. If it happens it will be something small (no Capcom, Bandai or even SE) but I think there is a chance with KoeiTecmo, it is small compared with other big names and the relationship with Sony is stronger than ever, Sony has for the first time ww publishing rights for one of their games (KT published the Niohs in Japan) and together they bought 1/5 of Akatsuki, looking almost too intentional.
It probably won't happen but I think if Sony makes a push they can get it. Personally Ninja Gaiden was the reason why I got an original xbox when I was a kid, it as a PlayStation ip would be FANTASTIC for me.
Re: Helldivers 2 Confirms PS5, PC Crossplay with Inspirational Gameplay Trailer
@KundaliniRising333 that was because there is friendly fire, so you can mess with your team intentional or unintentionally.
Re: Helldivers 2 Confirms PS5, PC Crossplay with Inspirational Gameplay Trailer
I have to say I'm pleased to see Helldivers in the top 50 of most wishlisted on steam and the $60 ver is more popular than the $40 one. The community really was waiting for this.
Re: Helldivers 2 Confirms PS5, PC Crossplay with Inspirational Gameplay Trailer
@KundaliniRising333 the thing is Helldivers 2 is like Helldiver 1 (a 9 years old game that still has players) but with way more budget.
It's a co-op shooter (I can't call "another" to a game with that kind of history behind but fell free to so), and you battle waves of enemies, there are different kind of missions in different planets with different enemies and difficulties. The maps are indeed procedural. No PVP. If it has story or not is to be seen.
This is the kind of game that plays best with friends but if that doesn't sound "enough" that's the reason why it is $40 in the 70 age lol.
Re: Sounds Like Sony's Next State of Play Livestream Isn't Far Away
They 100% will do something for FF but i want rise of the ronin and helldivers. If it happens will be a SoP not a Showcase so I hope Sammy doesn't melt after watching it lol.
Re: Kaitlyn Dever Will Play Abby in HBO's The Last of Us Season 2
S2 is set for 2025/26 right? Nothing few cycles can't solve lol.
Re: Helldivers 2 May Have Been Delayed on PS5 by a Few Weeks
Not the first time sony "interns" f*ck up trailers. PC players are still waiting for Demon's Souls (that may happen someday tho)
Re: Helldivers 2 May Have Been Delayed on PS5 by a Few Weeks
@zhoont don't be concerned, if there is a studio that communicates their focus and confidence that's Arrowhead and they sound really happy with what they have to show.
Re: Sony Hasn't Entirely Forgotten About Patapon Either
People actually buying what they ask for would have been very helpful to get the third port ... but never say never, who knows maybe they make Patapon the next Pingu lol
Re: Hogwarts Legacy Conjures a Staggering 22 Million Sales
This is one I would LOVE to know % by platform, beyond Sony that should be very pleased getting the marketing rights, knowing how many people got it for ps4, one and Switch would be great.