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So, that means that's one more title added to PS4's lineup...

@Visiblemode Don't get me wrong. I have nothing against indie games, it's just that I haven't played a lot of them and I have enjoyed most of the ones I did play. I have yet to play Journey which I will be picking this weekend ($3.75, it's a steal!).

@Visiblemode Exactly. It's all about perspective. If you look through history this is one of the best launches for a console if not the best launch. For the gamers who want more AAA title announcements need to look back at the last launch and see how many were announced before the launch of the last console. This also the most diverse lineup for any launch.

I don't see Nintendo as a competitor to either the Xbox or the PlayStation. They are kind of in their own niche market which could be fading away.

I know there are a lot of people nay saying the indie games and I am not huge on indie games myself but I understand the potential of indie games. Look at Journey for example or Minecraft. With the falling out of the mid range market it is making room for more indie titles as well as higher quality indie titles. Some of the more creative games are indie games. Also, with the rise of smartphones and tablets there is a rise in mobile games which are mostly indie games.

There are over 30+ games that will be available at launch and honestly how many are you going to time to play before spring of 2014. Not to mention you have games like Second Son due out early 2014 and who knows what else will be coming out around that time. The question you should be asking yourself is "Will I be entertained by these titles?" and to not worry about if it is a AAA title or not.

@mibtar @MadchesterManc @ginkgo @coalmoore Wow, I am old enough to remember the Atari as well. I never knew there was a Mario game for it...lol

@Savino Now that would be awesome!

@get2sammyb I think you will like Warframe. I've just started playing it on PC and it is interesting so far. I think it will transition to the PS4 nicely.

Other titles I can't want to play are Driveclub, Blacklight, and Planetside 2. I haven't touched DCUO since 2011 so it will be interesting to see the changes they've made.

@ShogunRok I would love to see another Dynasty Warriors; Gundam game!! How about Heavenly Sword 2 for PS4??

@-CraZed- Exactly. If you are already developing a game to be on more than one platform I don't see how having it tied to one console for a limited time benefits you unless you are only in it for the money and you are getting paid extremely well. I am sure MS is paying a lot of money for these timed exclusives.

@uchinakagema Umm... I don't see your point with the AC example. Are you trying to say that I can't say a game "sucks" or that I can't "hate" a game??

You say that you understand that some games in a game series are not as good as others but your initial comment you said that you were "sick and tired" of people expressing their opinions of games in a series. Then you went and expressed your opinion on why the entire Halo series was good which is fine and that is your opinion so, your two comments seems a bit contradictory.

As far as this whole hyperbole thing, I don't see what I said was hyperbole or how I engaged in it or why you had to explain it to me. Also, I wan't bashing on Halo.

I think its awesome that Sony is focusing on something different instead of going the Microsoft route and mainly focusing on the big names. The big guns this gen might not be the big guns during the next gen. You can only produce an X number of CoDs or Halos before it gets stale and gamers start to look for something different. I have a feeling that indie games are going have a bigger role int he next gen and I think Sony can see that. Personally I don't like timed exclusives and I don't see the point in it. Great you get the game before we do but in the end we still get the game. Either go full exclusive or just launch as cross-platform title.

@uchinakagema Sorry but it sounds like you are butt hurt because people are talking bad about Halo. Just because the franchise is successful doesn't mean every title is great for that franchise. Sometimes developers make a change to their game and it doesn't go over well. It's ok for people to have an opinion and to be able express something they don't like about a particular game. You can't tell me you never felt this way about a series. Think about musicians not every album an artist produces is great or there are some better than others. Also, the Phil Fish thing is a whole other scenario.

So, if you are a GameStop Manager, you will get both consoles for free.. WTF? Damn, I should have become a store manager instead of an IT Manager...lol

@rjejr LOL...that would be funny

@Cloud7794 So, whats The Last Guardian??...lol Yeah, I really don't know what Microsoft has up their sleeve and Titanfall is not even a launch title but it is supposedly going to be a Q1 release for 2014. At least with Sony we can see a sort of see a strategy or a plan.

@longshot28 Exacly, that's what I've been saying. Also, you don't want to overload the announcements and its great to be in a position to go at your own pace instead of making premature announcements just to try to sell your system because you are falling behind.

Cross-platform chat?? Wait, so can PS4 players chat with Xbox players??

@ViciousDS Ah, I see. You are being blocked or it's a browser issue. The thing with flash is that is has to be coded correctly that's why some sites work great with flash and why some sites often crash flash. HTML5 is great, well the sites that do use it.

I'm not a fan of Ustream, it seems a bit buggy at times. One of the good things about Twitch is that you can transfer your videos to YouTube. It would be cool if they added YouTube so you could skip Twitch all together if you wanted to because I know some people who prefer to use YouTube over Twitch.

@ViciousDS I love Spotify as well and I use it all the time. Sony might not have a desktop program but have you tried playing music from the Music Unlimited site itself? It works fine on my PC and I am just skimming through their library and I am surprised how much they do have.

Release date and the UI demonstration were the top 2 highlights for me.

@Lelouch Well if you are a fan of Metal and if you like Dragonforce, I think you will like Hammerfall, Blind Guardian, and Rhapsody of Fire. Check them out and let me know what you think. I am definitely going to give Music Unlimited another try for sure.

@Lelouch How about some Blind Guardian or some Hammerfall while playing Killzone? Actually Slayer or Exodus might be better for Killzone..lol Yeah I might look into this since you can stream while playing. I had the trial for music unlimited but never used it because I just don't turn on my PS3 to just play songs. I have my other devices for that. I was unaware that there was an APP for smartphones so that's big one for me. If it has a similar library to Spotify then I might convert over to that because I use Spotify and Pandora in my car all the time.

Finally got to play The Last of Us this weekend. It's amazing!

@DVS @longshot28 @Clamedeus I agree. I understand Sony's strategy as well.

@Gamer83 I understand where you are coming from but you have to look at it from all angles. Sony accomplished what they needed to at E3 and they accomplished what they needed to at GC. Things are going in Sony's favor and there is no need to rush announcements. They already have over a million pre-orders so there is no reason pull out any big guns at this moment with the exception of the much requested release date and they delivered that. @DirectAim pretty much hit the nail on the head. If E3 went down differently you would probably see a different strategy from Sony and there is a good chance that you would probably see more of the AAA announcements that you are looking for. With all of the hype surrounding the PS4 Sony is doing something right.

@rjejr I don't see how the skill of a person playing a game has any effect on the demographic of a game. Maybe he died to make it look more challenging then what it is or maybe they wanted to show you what deaths look like. Who knows and that wasn't the point. I said it was geared towards the "younger" gamers but it is a game for anyone and I think there is something there for everyone to enjoy.

@Gamer83 Have there ever been any earth shattering announcements at any Sony GC conference regarding the PS3 in the past? I think some people have unrealistic expectations. Also, did Microsoft make any earth shattering announcements at GC? Another thing to think about is that console selling games can be announced at ANYTIME and that is coming from Yoshida himself. You have TGS and the VGAs coming up before the end of the year as well. I would expect to see some announcements at the VGAs. Most if not all of the studios are actively working on PS4 games. I have no issue with Sony's tactics so far and I am happy with the announcements so far. Only 2 jabs have been made towards MS one big one at E3 and a small one at GC. You do have an excellent point with the Vita and I agree.

For the most part it did meet my expectations. I was hoping to see a PS4+Vita bundle but other than that I wasn't expecting much and I wasn't expecting to see that many indie games which is not necessarily a bad thing.

@gamer83 You can argue that taking a small jab was the right thing to do but it certainly wasn't childish. Going into Gamescom you can sort of say that both consoles are even due to Microsoft's 180s so, somebody had to shake things up and everything they said was true. Also, don't kid yourself and think Microsoft made all of the changes because of the gamers. Keep in mind that taking jabs at competitors is a part of business and the video game industry is a business. You do remember the slogan "Genesis does what Nintendon't" or when Crash Bandicoot went to Nintendo headquarters, right? It the tides were turned I would have no problem with Microsoft taking jabs at Sony.

The reason Nintendo hasn't engaged in any of this because they are not in the same league as Sony and Microsoft, they are in their own niche market.

I don't think people understand that this is geared for the younger gamers and it is not trying to be on the same level as a Killzone or Call of Duty. It adds variety to the games on the console. On that note, I think it might be a fun game.

@lelouch Actually I did see some of those comments, lol. Oh and don't forget the fanboys were making fun of the PS4's design after E3 saying it looks like a slanted PS2 which is more of a compliment if anything.

@irken004 Exactly, you got to hand it to Sony when they have a vision they stick with it, the PS3 is a great example and now the PS4 is another one.

@lelouch Yeah I remember that was their only defense before E3, "well at least that showed the console". Then after E3 the microsheep were laughing at the Sony fans because we have to pay to play online now which I always say to them "umm...last time I checked you have to do the same".

The only ones who find the jabs tasteless are the Xbox fanboys who can't come up with good jabs of their own.and they don't call it a "console war" for nothing. Also, anyone remember the old Sega commercials??? The Mac vs. PC commercials??

I would buy one right away if that $500 PS4+Vita bundle were true but with a $199 price tag it will have to wait a bit longer since my money is going towards the PS4 first. Either way I am interested in Vita now more than I have ever been.

@Clamedeus Awesome, I wonder how many people you can do that with at the same time.

It's says AC3 is coming to PS+ members in Europe, what about the US??? I would assume its is coming to the US as well but I am only seeing Europe.

In this video he really looks like Dana Carvey..haha I can't wait to see what's coming in the future for PS4.

Did anyone notice the top right corner of the Killzone screen right before Shu joined the session? It's looks like a video feed, so can we broadcast live or video chat while playing online??? Check out the video starting at the 49 second mark. @get2sammyb your thoughts?

Awesome article @get2sammyb! I couldn't have said it better myself and it puts things in the right perspective.

Awesome numbers for the PS4!! I am curious on how it compares to XB1 pre-order numbers. I was at a GameStop yesterday and it appears that they are trying to push XB1 pre-orders which I thought was interesting.

I will be getting Warframe, Minecraft, DC Universe, Planetside 2 and Blacklight.

I don't see how anyone can be disappointed in PS4's lineup. You will have plenty of games to play when the consoles launches . If you really like XB1's library over PS4's then get a XB1. If you want more AAA or first party titles just give Sony some time this is a launch year. We have TGS around the corner and anything can be announced between now and launch day. Did anyone see the Minecraft announcement coming?? No. Some of the popular titles announced for XB1 are not going to available at launch anyways. Everyone knew that GC was going to be focused on Vita so I am not surprised to see very little on the PS4. I was surprised in the amount of indie games though. Don't forget E3 2014 is coming next year so they have to save some ammo for that as well. I don't expect any company to blow their load before launch. In the end, just sit back, relax, end enjoy some games. You will have access to plenty of games no matter which console you go with. I have my PS4 already on order and I am perfectly happy with that. This gen I came in with an open mind and I gave XB1 a good look but it doesn't appeal to me and I feel the PS4 is right for me and I like the direction they are going.

@Subie98 "This"?, what?

It's kinda of hard to say without seeing more details about it but this teaser makes me want to know more about it.

I am probably going to get Killzone and Need for Speed.

Yeah I thought this was a Microsoft exclusive. I have played on the PC and it can be addicting.

I don't think they look bad at all. I would probably get the red one or go all black.

@rjejr Yeah anyone who lives in the US knows how insane Black Friday is, just look up YouTube videos and especially if you are there in person. Actually it's no longer Black Friday, it's Black Thursday...lol

@get2sammyb Yeah it does give room for XB1 to launch before it but oh well. At least we have a date!

Oh hell yeah!!! Not a bad date since it is on a Friday!!

I would like to know who is actually going to pre-order this. I would have if I wasn't getting a version of it on PS+ and if I like it I will just buy the full upgrade pack.

@rjejr Yeah, I was referring to games saves and game stats. Oblivious you have to purchase both versions in the process. Gamestop's promotion will actually get them more money especially since they will resell the used games.

I really like how more games are allowing you to transfer your game from current gen to next gen so you can start playing now and you don't have to start from scratch when you go to next gen.