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I think this game is my earliest gaming memory, had it preinstalled on our Master System, I remember my big bro calling our cousin to find out how to beat those damn paper scissor stone guys. Can't wait to see how this is

My personal hot take, as someone with an XSX with GPU and PS5 with plus and Now - right now, plus with Now is as good as GPU, or at least very close, and Sony would be foolish not to combine them. The duplicate games suck so it would be great if there was less than that, but I'm finding more to play on Sony services than Gamepass recently
(GWG is irrelevant right now). Sure, Now+plus doesn't get the first party exclusives day 1, but even the most ardent Xbox fanboys must admit there is a gulf in quality between exclusives, and Sony would be mad to do the same

@Gilvin but if you want the game, why not buy it. You're not losing anything from this news if you were going to buy it anyway, and not buying it because it is going on Xbox is just spiting yourself

@mucc of course not, but I'm saying most people don't think like that with subscriptions, which is why they're so effective. If I want to watch Stranger Things I could buy the DVD, but obviously I'll watch it on Netflix because to my mind it is as good as free because I already have it for every other piece of content. Once a subscription because part of your regular outgoings, anything on it just gets seen as free. I always refer to the PS Plus games as free, bc I'm unlikely to let my sub lapse as it's just a part of my regular outgoings now, and I suspect it is the grant with GP for a lot of Xbox owners

@Roel03 people need to let of the "it's not free" argument. It may be true, but I think the headline was referring to the optics of the situation, and for Joe Bloggs it looks like the game is £70 on PS and as good as free, if you have Game Pass (which most do) on Xbox

@AdamNovice it's a PlayStation news site, what are they meant to do? If you just want to hear Sony approved press releases just go to the blog

@Martsmall it's not really comparable though as MLB was brought about by MLB, whereas other PS Studios exclusives, with the exception of Spider-Man, are Sony IPs developed by first party studios with no outside contractual obligation. I could forsee a similar situation with Spider-Man depending on what happens with rights with that character down the line, but otherwise it seems just as likely you would see Master Chief on PS as Kratos on XBox

One thought is if Sony is seeing this as an opportunity to show off the quality of PlayStation Studios' quality to those who only play on XBox. More likely it is just MLB making a deal. Regardless, I think it's a plus for MS as opposed to a minus for Sony - people surely by PS for the likes of God of War and Spider-Man, and those with just the one console will still buy it if it appeals to them

@__jamiie honestly, none of them. And I have an XSX with GPU so they're not going anywhere for me - they just don't interest me! Nonetheless, I recognise I am maybe in the minority and it will undoubtedly be a blow to Sony

I've got XSX and PS5 so I've genuinely got no horse in this race, but I really do find Bethesda games lacking, I just bounce off them; they're just far too janky for my liking. Doom 2016 was pretty good but unmemorable, and I really can't get into Doom Eternal.

All that being said, I'm looking forward to a conclusion to this, because either way it will be hilarious what the fanboy fallout is. I'll personally love it most if they're not exclusive, as the saltiness over of PureXbox is unreal.

Frankly, if PS Plus keeps up the current quality then GamePass will no longer be able to lay claim to the "best deal in gaming" moniker!

@Matroska stick the cling ring on too if you're concerned about the effect on your vitality.

I loved it, could only get into BB before but now I'm on a From soft binge off the back of it - completed Dark Souls over the weekend and now powering through another Bloodborne playthrough

Frankly, I'd be disappointed if it was Silent Hill. Bloober's output really leaves a lot to be desired; the Medium was utterly tedious and completely devoid of scares

Blimey, between this being on PS Collection, Control and Destruction All-Stars it's a hell of a week for PS Plus members! When am I gonna get time to finish Demon's Souls?!

I've just finished it, jumped straight onto Assassins Creed Valhalla, and all I can think is how I wish I was still playing Ghost of Tsushima. Utterly spectacular

@TG16_IS_BAE no you were suggesting people should work harder to get more value out of their games, and I was just pointing out that some people can get everything they want to get out of a game in a shorter amount of time, and replaying it over and over again would not be satisfying to them. I get your initial point that people should expect game prices will rise with inflation and higher budgets but the solution isn't necessarily to just grind through games to artificially lengthen your time with it if it is unlikely to satisfy you as much as a new experience. Which, bringing it back to the matter at hand, is why it is perhaps a misjudgement on Sony's end to expect people to pay a significant amount more for new games, no matter how justified the rise may be. It is likely to drive consumers to more cost effective alternatives such as gamepass, especially in the current climate.

@TG16_IS_BAE length absolutely comes into it, but it isn't the be all and end all. I love narrative heavy games and play them for the experience. I am unlikely to play them again as I know the story beats, but the experiences stay with me more than grinding through 300 hours of a generic RPG, and therefore are worth so much more. I'm not saying it doesn't come into it, but length is one of the last things I personally consider in a game, and although it's good for you if you are happy to play the same thing over and over again, it's mad to expect everyone to do the same as presumably they are looking for different experiences than you are.

@TG16_IS_BAE order 1886 was 6 hours long for £50 and the old SNES RPGs could last 100s of hours. Generally games are longer now but not always; I don't think using a game's length is necessarily the best factor in deciding its monetary worth. I would 10x more for Journey than Assassins Creed, because although was far shorter I found the experience to be far richer

@JohnKarnes blimey, it was only a couple of days ago I was being blasted on PureXbox as a Sony fanboy! You don't need to be an XBox fan to point out that the existence of Gamepass puts Sony at a very precarious position when it comes to titles like this. Personally I think Now is almost as good and could be great if Sony got properly behind it, but I'm concerned Sony do not have the money MS do to absorb the massive initial losses MS are presumably taking.

@get2sammyb while you're almost certainly right that GamePass is a loss leader right now, you have to imagine MS know what they're doing with it in the long run. I imagine they see themselves as Netflix, which until very recently was running at a significant loss but through streamlining and a number of small incremental increases in price arr now in a very strong position where people signed up when it was cheap and now just keep it going at the higher rate. If people buy XBoxes off the back of it as well, they will be even less likely to give up the subscription. If MS achieve this I worry Sony will find themselves in a very tricky situation.

@God_of_Nowt for a consumer that's fine, and likely the approach I would take. The concern, however, is that too many people will understandably think the same, resulting in very low release day numbers. Devs will have their budget set by a publisher largely based on how their previous game sold, and if they're not selling very well at launch, then publishers will not have confidence

@get2sammyb I agree that surely Gamepass's current offering cannot be viable in the long term, but then MS (who I assume hire people far better equipped than I to work out the economics of it all) certainly seem to be putting all their eggs into the subscription basket. After all, the last year they've been selling Gamepass first and consoles second.

Regardless, as you said the fact that such subs exist really put games like these in a quandary, and it really feels like Sony need to allow better flexibility in its pricing. They know the next Horizon and GOW will sell at £70, they would have done the market research, but they simply must be willing to adapt their pricing in a game by game basis otherwise new, unproven IPs will fail to sell, and the creatives at the studios may well defect to other, potentially greener (pun intended) pastures

I couldn't agree more, and it's where MS Gamepass proves it's worth. Looking at the new trailer I'm immediately thinking "That looks fun. I can't wait for it to come to PS Now", which surely isn't what a great developer like Housemarque would want to hear

Best controller ever, Sony or otherwise

11. If you're in Europe, cry

I dare say GTA's spike is in no small part due to it leaving a certain rival subscription service

As someone with very limited game time, I think this is an awesome idea, as long as it can be turned off.

@Haruki_NLI it looks to me like the PS logo is the button

@LemonHaze I doubt he has a thing called assurance

@JJ2 @pimpjuice 19th November

Oh darn, I was totally planning on spending those too

@get2sammyb I'm loving my VR, but disappointed so many of the games make me nauseous. Do you have any idea if the Pro, with more stable frame rates, could help this at all? And did you notice any performance enhancements with the VR in general beyond visual (eg. The shaky motion when still and what not).

Also, I've got a 2tb hard drive in my vanilla PS4 - guessing it won't be as easy as swapping them over and keeping the data? I assume it will need to be reformatted...

@BAMozzy I just had the same email - although it also says '
You'll need an Amazon.co.uk account to redeem your discount code and claim your free 'The Last of Us'.

Guessing this is an Amazon cock up rather than a genuine free copy of The Last of Us!