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@GamingVeteran The problem with throwing statistics around like that is it that it feeds the narrative that Covid is something we can just ignore. It's clearly not.

As has been pointed out we don't really know how many are really infected, we haven't tested everyone. We do know that the more we test the more we find. We also know there's potential for huge long-term effects that are only just becoming apparent.

I don't know why people can't show a bit of restraint. Our understanding of it is improving and vaccines are not far away.

As someone said earlier, simple Captcha code would have helped a lot. Limiting to one per delivery address too, but probably harder to implement.
Ultimately this is down to the retailers, not Sony. And quite frankly, they don't care, all money in the bank for them.
Saying that they have to go to the bother of implementing queuing systems and deal with server overloads, so perhaps it would be in their interests after all.

@MrSec84 @SoulChimera @KPraj Excellent. Got mine last Friday, forgot to post. Like your good self I haven't gotten around to hooking it up yet. I did finally buy Astro Bot Rescue Mission in the PS Store sale yesterday, will hopefully get a chance to try it today.

Not noticed this happening yet, but then again haven't put a disk in yet either.

After a bit if a false start I got mine today. First impression was it's not as big as I feared. Ended up putting it horizontally next to my surround amp. Stand clipped on fine, seems stable enough.
Setup was a breeze. Firmware updates of console and controllers happened really quickly, one reboot. Only played a bit of astro myself and it's superb. Kids played a bit of Bugsnax and now GT Sport. Going from an original release base PS4 to PS5 makes GT Sport almost look next-gen!
Not a silent room but not heard a peep from the PS5, dead quiet so far.
No lockups. Not tried an external drive yet.
So far, so good.

I guess everyone's hearing is different but once again I can barely hear anything in those videos, let alone anything I wouldn't expect to hear if I put my head next to a fan. Maybe it's an advantage of getting old, it gets harder to hear whining of all sorts

@tatsumi That sounds promising, thanks for the update!

@SoulChimera Did you get the first registration email? If you don't get an email today it might be worth trying to re-register for it. If it tells you you've already registered then at least you know it should be just a matter of time.

Jeez, talk about an overreaction. I just stuck headphones on and couldn't hear anything that would worry me. But then I wouldn't sit with my ear next to the console.

Stick a mic that close to anything with a fan in you'll hear something.

I'll be annoyed if there are problems with my PS5 when it turns up but hell, buy the first batch of anything you should expect some problems. If you expect perfection on release you really don't have much in the way of life experience.

@madcow78 Just checked my email, got it too
"Your PlayStation®Camera Adaptor is on the way

Great news! Your request for a PlayStation Camera Adaptor has been processed and is on its way to you.

This usually takes approximately 3 to 6 business days. "

@madcow78 Same here, no follow-up after the confirmation email.

Sounds very promising, looking forward to more details on this !

Like many, I've been wondering about Dolby Atmos Blu-ray support. Had a hunt around for info on the PS5 collection and found a link to it here: https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/The-Fifth-Element-4K-Blu-ray/279441/
If that's accurate HDR support is HDR10 and Dolby Atmos and TrueHD are supported.

This thread is turning into a bit of a troll fest, my ignore list is getting bigger.
Why does every thread have to turn into a console war?
Sony have dropped the ball on a few things, which is frustrating, but I really don't care if the XBox does things better or not. Go to the forums and start a new thread! Let's keep this to a discussion about what we like or dislike about the PS5 and what we'd like to see happen.

A couple of years ago people laughed when it was said the PS5 would have SSD, let alone more than 500GB. Could be worse, the Series S only has 360 odd available space!
Wouldn't be as bad if we could move PS5 data out to external drive, hopefully that'll come back.

As unimpressed with Sony as I am at the moment I don't have an issue with them over the m2 cards. Cerney did say certification would likely come after release and the price of these will drop.

I hope they put that functionality back.
So far the embargo lifting has been a real anti-climax for me. Apart from some honourable exceptions loading speeds don't seem to be where I thought they would be. Why 4 or 5 second loading in Astros playground? Given what has been seen in R&C that seems too long. BC title boost looks a bit lacklustre. Where's the big surprise that has been hinted at? Have I missed something?
The only thing stopping me from cancelling my pre-order at this time is a free game and the new controller. Which feels like an odd reason to part with £450!
Probably just me, been a crappy week.

Very nice. I want one.

@rjejr Yeah, always tempting to upgrade to the latest and greatest. Assuming the PS5 is quiet and UHD Blue Ray is good I'll just have the PS5 connected to the TV and ARC out to the amp. So for now, at least, the Onkyo should serve me for a good few years as I've no plans to replace the 5.1 speaker setup I have and ARC is working a treat

@rjejr One of the really nice things about the latter TV route is it's a single remote to control TV and amp. I've never had ARC work properly before, though, so ended up connecting everything through the AV amp (old Onkyo TX-NR709). So always had to use 2 remotes.
Was delighted when I found ARC between the CX and amp works flawlessly. Amp switches on and off with the TV remote as it should.

@AshM If you're a Costco member that might be an option, they seem to offer no-quibble returns. The CX screen is quite reflective, so if you have a direct light source in front of the set that you can't block out, it might not be the set for you. I have light to the right of the screen and above and It's bearable. Just have to pull the curtains if it's a really bright day. Normally watch in the evenings, though, so not a problem.

@AshM As @themightyant has said Vincents HDTVTest channel on YouTube is an excellent source for information. I don't have one but I doubt you'd be disappointed with a QLED if you have a bright room. I've taken the risk with the OLED purely because I think it edges out the QLED's in my viewing environment and with the 4 HDMI 2.1 ports offered a bit more flexibility in the future. I don't think you can go far wrong with either to be honest.

@aesz13 There's cause for optimism, at the end it says:
"LGD will likely solve this problem establishing multiple gamma curves optimized for lower frame rates."
The frustrating thing I found choosing a TV this year was that all of them see m to have an issue of some sort, or be missing a feature I was after. If I'd already had a 4K HDR set I would have waited another 12 months for things like VRR to get sorted.

The whole screen burn thing was seen as a major issue by some in the days of plasmas. I seem to recall the same fuss was made about it then as it is about OLED now. I had one for years and never had an issue. Others claimed to have endless problems. It's a panel lottery, always has been.

Now have an LG CX and am absolutely loving it. I don't have anything that supports VRR to see if the reported gamma issue is going to be a problem. If it is I'll just disable it.

@LiamCroft I got the CX a couple of weeks back and love it, such a massive step-up over my 1080P Samsung LED! I got it once I'd decided to get a PS5, seemed criminal not to use it on at least a 4K set with HDR. Only change TV's when they break or technology changes enough for it to make a big difference.

@Freakdahouse Not necessarily, if they were planning on VR2 in the near future it wouldn't have made sense to add any extra for VR1. I don't mind having to use an adaptor and certainly not against a new VR2 setup but IF a decision was made not to support VR natively on PS5, I'd have liked them to have communicated it properly. I hate it when people drop hints about (what is to me) bad news, just out with it!

@TurboTom There's a lot of talk about screen burn and that nearly put me off. I had a Panasonic plasma for about 6 years, though, and never had a problem with that. Replaced it with a Samsung LED when it broke. My usage pattern is much the same, although now have kids who watch youtube, so I don't think there'll be a problem. I'll just be a bit careful. For me the PQ outweighs having to be a bit cautious but each to their own.

The CX is bright enough for me in a room with French doors one end and skylights in the ceiling. I've not noticed any real difference in 'watchability' vs the Samsung LED it's replaced.

Saying all that, If you can see one in the flesh, do so.

PS4 looks fantastic on it, PS5 should rock with 4K and HDR support

@Tharsman To be fair, after seeing the controller tear-downs, it looks like there's a lot more to the new controllers than the old Dualshock. I understand the frustration, though I'm OK with replacing my PS4 controllers (as long a I can play PS4 games with the Dualsense) I am frustrated with the VR situation.

@TurboTom If you can stretch to it an LG OLED is beautiful thing to behold. The 65 inch dropped £300 in the last week, I think the smaller ones have as well. After having a 1080 SDR Samsung the PQ is an absolute revelation.
As an aside, I bought mine two weeks ago and kicked myself for not waiting when I saw the drop in price. Fortunately I bought it from Costco and found out you can apply for a refund of the difference between purchase price and a new price if it drops within 30 days. Got a call tonight to say I was going to get £300 back

@PixelRunner I think the difference here is that they're trying to get devs to use the features of the new controller that simply don't exist on dualshock.
There is no VR2 but the existing VR experience could be massively enhanced with the extra muscle in the PS5 and features of the new controller.
We were told some time ago the Dualshock would only work in BC mode on the PS5. We were not told there'd be no new PS5 VR games.

I'd like to know what bright spark at Sony thought that holding out on answering these questions for so long was a good idea!

I know it's not a universal feeling but the possibility of no PS5 VR games and the ongoing embargo on disseminating the most basic information has really has taken the edge off the excitement for me. It makes me feel like they're now holding back because there are issues they'd rather have talked about before people hand over their money. I'm normally an optimist but something just doesn't feel right to me,

If true they've just killed off sales of PSVR.
I am gutted. I have PSVR and was really looking forward to a huge boost to VR games. I know resolution can't change but the textures, LOD and complexity of the VR world's could be immensely improved with PS5.
This news seriously makes me wonder if I should cancel my pre-order and maybe just pick up a second-hand pro.

@captainsandman I think protocol-wise it's USB but had a custom connector. You can buy AUX to USB adaptors.
Maybe done to stop people plugging any old camera in, or maybe some internal reason, higher speed support for that port?

My serial number starts with a P and is followed by 13 numbers, so something like P1234567890123. No letters. This if for a UK V1 unit.

No email confirmation yet.

Huh, just tried one more time and it worked!

@lacerz Thanks, that confirms mine hasn't gone through then, I never saw that.
Looks like every VR owner is trying to register at the same time!

After a dozen attempts I manage to get to the form and fill in all my details. Then it dumped me back to the start. No idea if it worked or not.
Like everyone else I'll try again tomorrow. At least it looks like there's a chance we can get the adaptor before the PS5 arrives.

@NomNom Things get missed in testing, especially if you're under pressure to get something out. You may also find a problem that you think isn't quite serious enough to stop a release but you know needs to be fixed ASAP, before too many people use the software.

There are a large number of factors that dictate when a software release goes out and it's quite often not the actual software developers call.

I'm hoping and expecting the answer to be 'Yes' but would nice to hear it confirmed one way or the other.
Can you move games and content between an external drive and internal/expanded SSD?
I know you need to have the PS5 games on the internal/expanded SSD to play them but being able to park them on an external drive would be useful.

I was going to say it's all down to anonymity but then thought about some of the things you see on Facebook and Twitter, where many use their real names. Some real career limiting stuff posted on there!

There's no excuse for any kind of threat and this type of behaviour should not be tolerated or accepted by anyone. People who try to defend or excuse this behaviour are part of the problem IMHO.

Having had a look at the article I can't see any testing going on, it's pure speculation based on incomplete information.

Can't wait for both consoles to be out and this kind of crud to stop!

@Paranoimia Agreed and I understand the pessimism but I think if the SDK is easy enough for devs to consume, they will use it. Maybe not to the extent of a first-party developer but I think PS5 and XsX consumers will expect it and vote with their wallets.

I know it's coming but we're a few years away from most gamers PCs having the necessary hardware to stream textures straight off SSD to GPU. Up to now SSD's have helped load times but not been a game-changer, at least not in my experience. Plus there's still a huge amount of spinning rust out there, so devs can't bank on an SSD being present.

@Axelay71 Heh. I'm lucky, haven't got a full-size cabinet but Mrs actually bought me a Monty Python fruit machine

@InvaderJim I think you can run PS4 games off the external drive, copying to the SSD is optional. I will be amazed if you can't also park PS5 games on an external drive if you run short of space, then copy them back later when you want to run them.

@Axelay71 Don't get me started, I'll get kicked off for going off topic with another old-man nostalgia trip! Currently have PSX, PS2 (somewhere I think), PS3, PS4, Amiga 1000, 3000, 500, CD32, Atari 2600s, Intellivision, Vic20, C64, ZX81 and a RetroPie None of which I really have time to play with and 99% of which is in the loft. So obviously I'm buying a PS5.

The only things I didn't keep or re-purchase were an A1500, A4000 and Net Yaroze dev kit. The latter I think is now worth a small fortune.

@Paranoimia It'll come, just takes time. The existing catalog/IP gets ported or tweaked first and that ends up funding the really cool stuff that comes later. Always been the case as far as I can remember in the in the 35 years or so I've been gaming.

Each iteration seems to give more opportunity for devs to work on AI and open worlds as custom silicon takes on the graphical and IO grunt work, freeing up cycles for other things.

I went through a phase of feeling a bit disappointed with what I was seeing over the last month or so but went back over the Road to PS5 presentation and some dev reactions to it. It's going to take time for devs to get to grips with it but the potential feels huge. It very much reminded of the early Amiga days and look what happened when people really started pushing that architecture

@Axelay71 Was showing my kids 3D monster maze on the ZX81 earlier. Baffled them, lol. Yeah, loft full of stuff from the ZX81 onwards. Was happy to move on to the Amiga and games on multiple floppies.
@deathaxe I was more a Commodore man, very happy with the fast loaders! Never made the jump to floppy until the Amiga.

I don't think just a visual boost would have made me upgrade from my old PS4. The haptics, triggers on the new controller, SSD and improved audio persuaded me to make the investment.

@Axelay71 Showing your age Before the advent of fast loaders, about 20 minutes, assuming your head alignment was good.

@God_of_Nowt I can imagine that gets pretty frustrating.

I guess you could argue, given that you're working with an SDK others have access to, that it would not be unreasonable for someone else to have come up with the same approach independently. Therefore it would seem reasonable for you to use it for both projects as long as you compromise neither or re-use exactly the same source if it's effectively owned by one party.

Anyway, getting a bit off topic and I certainly appreciate it can be complicated.

@God_of_Nowt Hey, if you guys are receptive to doing it, I'll keep reminding you! I'm a software engineer (commercial) but have some passing experience with hardware, albeit very outdated now. Seeing what they're doing now with the hardware, Sony primarily but MS to a degree, absolutely fascinates me.
I get the frustration around NDA's from both sides of the fence. It seems a bit odd that, with just a month to launch, some are still in effect. I guess some will expire on the 28th.