It is irrelevant whether you have an Xbox sitting next to your ps5 or you have Phil Spencer himself cookin your breakfast.
At the beginning of Ps4, the list of exclusives was atrocious. Ps4 sold well any way.
You can play 3rd party on either console and other will gather dust just fine. Your argument about how many exclusives you have been playing isn't going to change the fact that there are advantages of having an Xbox atm. It gathering dust in your shelf isn't going to change my mind one bit.
Don't bother arguing with me though, I know you haven't spent much time on it, considering you have only played 1 game so far.
I am used to quick resume now and any game I can get my hands on Xbox, will be played on Xbox because quick resume is just gorgeous.
I will gladly play first party ps5 games when I get get my hands on a ps5 without touching a scalper.
But let's not cast a false image of what series x offers.
Controller? It does not need to change a controller that has no need to be changed. It is not boring. It works absolutely great and has a fantastic build to it. It is slightly more compact than Xbox one. You do not understand the difference in size but my wife is thankful since she enjoys the smaller build for her gaming needs.
I like playing "any game I play" with a higher fps, where ever the heck I can.
Series X has been a fantastic purchase so far for me and quick resume is just not something you can get over when you play any thing any where else.
In any case, ps5 will be my place to play exclusives I can't get else where.
@Carl-G I am not sure if you realize this but your last post is absurd.
First, You are suggesting that Sony shouldn't have even brought up a release date if they weren't sure when the game was going to be finished... So they wouldn't "mislead" the audience.
You then proceed to suggest that they should have only misled the audience... "if/when" Microsoft ever announced... And I quote... "if ever" a AAA exclusive?
@theMEGAniggle let us assume for a second, that your need is not the only need being discussed, but rather need of the majority, or minority, in this case.
I can respect that you don't care about it for your own needs but when discussing these topics, you can't just turn a blind eye towards the need of every one "not you" .
You have to consider the possibility of others. Market isn't designed to handle the need of the one needing the least space, but rather the one that needs most, to ensure they cater to a wider audience.
Edit : to clarify, as long as expansion storage option is available to me, I don't care if the size of the local drive available to me is 600 or 800. Either are fine since they both aren't enough. I just want to be able to add storage.
Same concept where I am comfortable with buying a phone with only 64gb internal and expanding it with 500gb cards.
I wouldn't mind more than 64 Gb, if price wasn't excruciatingly high.
You have a fixed cost component and a variable cost component in there.
It works fine for as long as you have only 1 game.
The moment that jumps to 2, you have to split the cost of fixed over the games you have purchased, and then add it to the cost of that "one game" that you wish to discuss.
At 1 game! 140 "each" 2, 110 3, 100
Etc etc.
Also, the benefit of ps plus are more than what ever is behind the pay wall for being online. You do get monthly free games I think?
I personally do not have Ps+ since I only play certain exclusives that do not require Ps+.
@Gravity_Bear your post makes sense and your concept is more or less what I think this is as well.
As far as space taking goes, I am under the impression that it will go with what ever games save file size is. As for now I do not know what their tech is using and not using other than save file size.
Considering it takes approximately 6 seconds to load the resume, I think they keep the data point and what the ai was doing and load the texture during this time? Unsure how big a spot they may require to do this for each game
@thedevilsjester I honestly mistakenly pasted your nickname in my post. It wasn't meant for you but another gentleman that I wrote a longer post to later
Friend. I understand what you mean. Thank you for explaining.
But my question to you is, how sure are you that it is actually wasting the resources? How do you know what the secret sauce behind this feature is?
Are developers complaining about it consuming resources or something?
Should I just be skeptical because, well it is what keeps me from feeling like I had too many expectations?
A device can be capable of doing more than what you want it to do, if it poses no hinderance to your experiences.
I can respect your choice in your games. Your play style and all that makes you happy. Heck I am. Happy that you will never need to use this feature!
I buy my games like you, but I prefer digital over physical because I run multiple consoles. I can play one copy of my game on 2 consoles simultaneously. To me, again... It is useful, while to you, it is not.
However you are not going around telling me that having the digital option is pointless or useless because you don't use it?
I do not call this feature "pointless or useless" because it doesn't really hold my experience back in any shape or form so far.
Any one who plays more than 1 game will find this feature to be useful.
Heck even if 30% people will ever use it, it is good having this there for them.
Those other 70% who will "never use it" have no concern associated with this, other than, "I don't like it"
But if that statement goes from "I don't like it" to "I don't like it and it is unnecessary", then that is where my beef is.
I don't care if you find it necessary. It is not causing your machine any performance issues.
It is not holding your current experience back.
Don't use it. Move on. But don't make claims like "it is unnecessary". Even a small percentage of those who find this feature useful, makes it a solid addition when it really doesn't hold any one back from having a good experience.
>For example I have just come out of an RDR2 18 hour play session and after that I have been playing Pes 2020 since yesterday and a such for someone who games like I do.........
For someone who may have played TLOU and Gow and will probably play Spider man, all being single player, story games
And if they ever want to get on destiny because they may need to provide assistance,
Or because their kid is now asking them to play another game with them on same console, or for what ever reason, it is worth it. Your evidence again, doesn't provide me with a reason why the "gimmick" as you may call it, shouldn't exist.
You have simply aid that it is not useful to you. In no shape or form can you possibly imply that something that may not be useful, may also not useful to others. Because that would simply be dumb. Yes?
> Quick resume is pointless but will be useful for those who prefer it.....
Again. Let me repeat.
It is not pointless if it is "useful" for those who who may want to use it. Specially when it has zero negative impact on you, other than "pointless to you".
Is this concept too complex for you?
>So how does that now make me a fan boy because from what has been shown about the feature........ I have not been impress by it by one bit......
It makes you a fanboy because you lack the comprehension required to actually do some research and come up with actual reasonable arguments, rather than simply point fingers at something "you" do not find useful and go "mommy! Me no likey!"
I don't care about you being impressed by it. You are irrelevant in this equation.
This issue is not about you being impressed. It is about it being useful while posing no problems in terms of hindering resources.
>"...but I honestly can't think of a time where I'll be switching between four different games every fifteen seconds. "
An exaggeration yes? No one switches games every 15 seconds. But I really have no issue with this other than, it is a quality of life change and this exaggeration makes it sound like it's an unnecessary feature, when it is not.
>" It's not a deal breaker for me personally if the PS5 doesn't have it."
I have zero issues with this statement.
What I have clearly stated is that I have an issue with people "voting" it because it presents his point, which is exaggerating the lack of need of this feature, which is then up voted, when his entire "opinion" hinges upon the fact that he won't use it because he doesn't find it useful.
Amy one else simply up voting his point, because they believe it is not useful for them either, when it has absolutely nothing to do with it being not useful to them.
The issue is, they have zero reason to argue against having this feature.
And those who are even suggesting don't fully comprehend this feature and compare it to things like suspend feature from Ps4 which it is nothing like.
In other words? They are up voting something while either having a lack of understanding around what the feature is, and the fact that if they don't need it, it doesn't need to be there.
That right above is silly. A feature that provides no downside and has only potential to have upside, cannot be perceived as a hindrance.
>And now you are calling people take liked his comment fanboys...........
Read above. I am specifically calling those who do not research features and simply dislike something because it came in a box that they don't support, or because they simply don't like it, and features they don't need or approve shouldn't exist? I have probably harsher terms for them, it I will stick with "fanboys" for now.
>So are we all supposed to sheepishly be blown away by a feature some of us find to be a pointless marketing ploy..........
It is not a marketing ploy and it is not pointless. If you aren't able to comprehend why I am making this claim, then perhaps you aren't simply someone I find worth discussing this point with.
Do your research.
I don't care about your feelings. I care about your facts. So far, there are none, other than you simply not liking it because, well "you don't find it useful"
>You like the quick resume cool for you....... But that does not make it mind blowing for everybody else as it is for you.............
tilts head
It is absolutely a fantastic feature for reasons I have given in multiple posts above.
Your entire argument hinges upon your right to not like something.
Not liking something is fine.
Not liking something because you won't use it or you don't think it is useful is limited to you.
In other words, it's existence has zero bearings on you. It being present doesn't hinder you. It is cool that you don't want to use it. But you cannot claim that it is not useful in a nut shell.
it not being present is a downgrade from what that technology offers for those who care about it. In other words? It not being there matters to those of us who find it fantastic.
>What is more disturbing is that in a supposedly free world..... People are nto allowed to have free opinions....
Free opinions are like buttholes. Every one has one.
It is free world so you can make claims like "since I don't think it is useful, it doesn't need to exist."
It is free world so I can make claims like "you are incorrect because it doesn't hinder you by existing. It can only benefit, and not take away from experience by making your worse in any shape or form."
>RBmango above mentioned in his or her post that quick resume is cool for those whole like it.... He did demean the feature or talk bad about it..... Just that it's good for those that like it and that it's not for him...........
His exact quote is"i get that Quick Resume is a really neat feature on the Xbox and it's definitely impressive from a tech perspective,... "
I do not have issue with this statement because he recognizes the value of it.
>.. So since when are people not allowed to not to like something or not be blown away by it because you do.....
Good attempt at deflecting the problem at hand, but you do it When you have zero good reason
You are blowing away something when your reasoning is no better than "I don't think I will use it" "I think it is unnecessary" when I am clearly explaining in several posts with example above why those statements are incorrect.
You cannot actually give me a down side of it.
That is the issue.
There is no downside to this.
>You sound like the people who expect other people to be happy when you are happy and expect people to be sad when you are sad.....
You sound a person who assumes alot of things with zero facts.
Baseless assumptions don't work so well.
Simply put, you are wrong for assuming that about me since you have no idea about me.
I find it amusing when fanboyish behaviour goes to a point that every thing said by them becomes freedom of speech and an "opinion", regardless of how baseless that opinion might be.
Just because you "have" an opinion, doesn't make it a "valid" opinion. Learn the difference.
@Sub-Xero you will use it so naturally that you won't even know you are using it.
You are not seriously telling me that you have zero digital games.
I mean game pass is there. It is all digital. You can go buy a copy of a game that might be on game pass. But you can keep that copy mint in your collection without breaking the seal. If it is in game pass, you are playing it digitally.
I am playing overcooked 2. In the middle of my game.
Buddy msgs me on division 2 to help them out in a raid at a specific point.
Gee, do I tell him to wait for me to finish the game?
Nah. Don't have to. I can switch games, get on, help the buddy out, go back to overcooked like nothing happened later.
Might sound too small for you?
Here.
I am playing arkham. I am doing amazing in an area in crazy hard mode here ei am trying to clear the room. Taking my time without getting seen.
Maybe buddy in destiny 2 needs assistance. I will not want to leave my progress because I know I will have to start that section all over... Or maybe I don't?
You see, just because you "won't" use something, doesn't make it worth any less.
It is useful, for those that can utilize it. Having the option doesn't hurt you.
Not having the option might make me wanna refuse my buddy's request or I lose my progression and effort.
I rather have the option to resume the game where I left it.
Appreciating the quality of life improvement doesn't put you in a bad spot, even if you won't have the need to use it.
@Gravity_Bear maybe I don't get you? I am confused.
It is like you thought of an inferior idea about saving check point so you can resume later.
And considered it to work better than the alternative, that is quick resume.
However, It does exactly what you just asked for, without you actually needing to save the game really.
You wouldn't have lost any progress either way? So why go through the whole hassle of saving the game and reloading the game?
Now if you were suggesting that the game should allow to save your progress so if you mess up, you can start from previously saved point, then yeh but that is entirely a different concept than what quick resume is all about.
@RBMango it is mildly disturbing that you have 38 votes so far for a comment where you can't think of a "good reason" that would make you want to switch games back and forth.
I play various games depending on which of my friends are online and switching between games is absolutely fantastic where you do not have to constantly load a game.
No I do not need to switch games every 15 seconds, but it's what you call a quality of life change.
It is not "needed", but it doesn't hurt me to have it. It is not a bad feature. It is not a good feature. It is a fantastic feature.
If the voting on your comment is not indicative of how far the fanboyism can go, then I do not know what else to tell you.
It is legitimately you guys voting and suggesting that a fantastic feature like quick resume is simply an unnecessary upgrade.
It is alright to have games you enjoy on specific consoles. But learn to recognize the quality of life changes where they are introduced.
Want me to give you another example in opposite direction?
You do not need a 4k ui to play games it is unnecessary for you to allocate resources where they may be utilized for gaming instead.
I don't recall the last time I cared about how "pretty" might UI looked for the 1 minute I spent on it to switch between games or adjusting something in settings or checking store out.
Do you really "need the guide" picture in picture when you can watch it on another screen just fine?
Seriously.
I like the picture and picture stuff in ps5 because I loved the concept of it when it was something similar toin Xbox one in early days where I had side window. I skyped with buddies and played game or watched twitch while playing games.
Every thing has a value for as long as it improves your quality of life.
You do not need an Audi when you can have a Suzuki that can take you to point A to B. But you get it any way because it is a luxury.
I get your point as well but he is correct that something like this can be rather toxic. I run a few different communities and one thing I have every one agree to is the fact that if they are adults, they need to behave like one. It doesn't mean just watching your own lingo.
It also means being able to be mature enough to withstand such lingo.
***** happens. People can be angry at times. People say hurtful things, not random "fudge Ur mom" type *****, but hurtful things. I chose to simply let them and move on.
It isn't polite when someone has a potential to report you for any thing they can take out of context.
The gentleman he is discussing above has, in the past, showed a very tendency of going "too PC", to a point where even I had to say harsh words to him in the past.
While his motivation was not completely wrong, his manner of pushing it was not right.
Alot of ***** said can be turned into hate speech very quickly and so yeh, 5 minutes really isn't a long time and any thing said can indeed be taken out of context.
Frankly speaking, it isn't a good enough reason for one to lose their access to games.
At best, they should receive a "status" to go with their profile suggesting that "this user is not friendly" maybe after repeated warnings.
In any case, you 2 had a decent and polite discussion, heated or not.
What operating system are you running this game on?
Also care to elaborate how MS won't be seeing a penny from you considering you are intending to play games that "might" be a part of their published catalogue going forward?
Seriously. You just told him to get off this website, suggesting that if he likes Xbox or says any thing about ps5 in a negative light, he doesn't belong here?
And you aren't coming across as a play station fanboy for not hearing his opinion?
You didn't disagree with him. You just flat out didn't even bother with countering his argument. You simply told him he doesn't belong here. And you are going to call "him" a fanboy?
@Medic_Alert I mean no one ran out to buy a PS when Avengers kept spider man from other platforms.
Or when games like Destiny delayed every expansion's some Object/Map for an entire year from xbox users, while the cost was same for purchase for both platforms?
But at this point, it is simply dumb for Microsoft to want to do that tbh.
@Arnna technically any company producing an exclusive is losing a bunch of money when they chose to go exclusive. This is not just true for Microsoft but also Sony exclusives.
While we all play 110 Million Ps4 sold and measly 30 million Xbox sold mantra, let's not forget that there is still more money when games are provided to a wider audience.
Let's not jump between "oh Microsoft will make more money if they remain multiplatform" while also praising how "exclusives are the backbone for Sony's" success.
Technically buying a console just to play "horizon and bloodborne" doesn't make me overly joyous either.
Almost 90% of the commenters(I am generous with the percentage, I would have said a higher number otherwise) have no clue about how investments, transactions, and finances are recorded.
I am literally just watching you all talk about investments like you have some clue about how it all works when you couldn't possibly be farther from the actual concepts associated with acquisitions ...
I can respect journalists and their ethics around wanting to "uncover" the truth with as "little" (I mean at least in theory) bias as possible.
But why pretend to know how a business handles its transactions on paper?
Why do you all keep treating this entire acquisition like its a bloody expense when it is not?
Do you all honestly really believe that when Sony or Microsoft, multi b(Tr)illion dollar companies make investment, they are managed without a proof of concept, multiple cost analysis, assessing potential benefits while mitigating risks?
It is mind boggling.
Then there are these other people who all call themselves gamers, but will "not touch" a game they played for years because it's now owned by some company they "deemed" anti consumer because of some sense of loyalty to their preferred platform?
Games are games.
I buy games on a console made by a company I find absolutely ***** for when it comes to handling their customer service and warranties. I will never forget the ***** my family had to deal with because they made a mistake by purchasing a vaio.
Be loyal to games. Not a plastic box.
Be loyal to your wallet, and don't worry too much about the sustainability of multi billion dollar corporations.
@Saitama117 ? I honestly do not think that you get it.
You completely missed my point. I am telling you that they actually "DO NOT" have to make all the money back because it was never listed as an EXPENSE on their Financial statements.
It is still listed as an ASSET and not an Expense. Just like Cash is an asset... so is acquired "assets".
Their recent purchase is not going to be entirely written under their Cost of Goods Sold.
As long as their FUTURE costs for production and operations are offset by their Revenue, which also takes their Depreciation costs into account since it is listed as an Operating expense as well.
If their Depreciation for their acquired asset and cost of Goods produced and sold is off set by their Revenue, they are doing great!
Edit: The concept that you are talking about by the way is called "breaking even". Where what ever you spend, won't be recovered until you have made the cost back, and then the profit kicks in.
However when assets are involved, they aren't all amortized within first year against the revenue. They get stripped away over years, and decades in some cases, where cost trickles into their operating expenses over time.
In your scenario, if they took entire cost of acquisition, they would have auditors up their butts talking about trying to play on expenses because they are reporting a Lesser revenue for Xbox division (greater loss higher expense bringing revenue number down) than they would otherwise.
>Xbox fans are the ones making out you need for your gaming requirements is a subscription to Game Pass but that's simply not true. It's not the great deal some of you make it out to be, not if you're actually passionate about gaming and care what you play and when.
It is actually an absolutely fantastic deal. You are right. It's not just a great deal.
Oh and buddy. Don't question my loyalty to gaming world. I have been a gamer for 30 years at the very least.
I have had over 10 k hours in guild wars 1. I have played wow for yesrs in top 25 clan in world.
I have played destiny 1 and 2 for over 4000 hours combined.
I have spent thousands of hours in division. Heck i am in top clan in the world on Xbox for division 2.
I min max builds. I educate people in raids. I spend 3 to 8 hours with newbies to help them figure mechanics and gear out. Why?
I really am very fudging passionate about gaming. I have countless hours in games.
You are making ps side sound like a righteous base when you are behaving like a self righteous person.
239Col_McCafferty2m ago >@TrolleyProblems Mate, I think you might be on the wrong site!
Incorrect. I buy play station every generation. I come to this site to keep an eye on information on exclusive games I play.
You however might have mistaken this site for a platform that only fanboys can thrive on.
>Of course people can still buy games on Xbox but it's clear that MS don't want you to or at least they want you to have Game Pass as well. So maybe you'll actually end up spending more money and it feels like you aren't.
Sorry, what are your sources that suggest that Microsoft "clearly" do not want you to buy games on their platform? Every thing in that statement of yours is absolutely silly.
Microsoft would absolutely prefer for you to "pay" for game pass "and the game" if you can.
That's just better revenue mate.
Also, maybe you do not understand your finances well, but I am a certified public accountant. Trust me. I know my finances well.
No one is "making" me pay any thing. I "chose" to pay where I thought it was worth paying. I speak with my wallet.
The fact that games on game pass allow me the opportunity to test them before I make my decision to want to "buy" them, is entirely in my hands. I am not some naive individual who doesn't know crap about his money. And I am quite certain that majority of people who talk about "saving money monthly" can do the same thing. They are assessing their options and seeing what they can and can't afford.
Should not they not be able to afford to buy games, game pass makes it a heck of a sweet deal for them. If it didn't exist, they might try 10 games out of 100 it has available. Cost can be a bitch.
>Anyway, what people choose to spend on games is up to each individual. There's nothing wrong with pre-ordering every major release or looking for bargains. The key is you will own the games yourself. You don't through Game Pass or at least you do as long as your subscribe into it.
Again. You claim that you understand what game pass is and that people have the option to buy the games... And yet you still keep contradicting your self.
I can "buy" game if I want to. I can chose to not buy a game if I don't want to.
When I do want to buy it, I buy it. Because I want that game to be owned by me. When I chose to "lease" my game so I can enjoy it and be done with it, it is no different than you buying a game, and then trading it back to game stop for some credit to get something else, or new.
Again. You are not correct.
>I'm wary of such a model and it's not as if it's great in other mediums. Sure Netflix do produce some good stuff but the majority of stuff on there isn't that good or its certainly not aimed at the likes of me. And if you're a film fan? Is Netflix enough? Hell no so you still need to spend money in other ways i.e. cinema, Blu-ray, digital purchases, other streaming sites.
You are typing way too much nonsense here.
I don't care about what you do with your netflix.
You can live without Netflix just fine. You aren't saying that Netflix is a must either. So why do you keep suggesting that game pass is the only option when in your own explanation, when you clearly are explaining appropriately to me that netflix is not?
They aren't trying to make entire value of their purchase back through revenue earnt by games developed by said purchase.
The value of of 2 kind.
1) value of the company and its assets, isn't dissapearing. It includes both the company and its talent. It goes on their BS, under assets. Btw, this may even include good will in acquisition price. 2) any revenue made by this acquired company now gets treated as revenue on their PnL statement.
Item #2 is being generated periodically and brings them profits if acquisition does well.
The value of #1 however is not dissapearing into thin air. That value may get depreciated over time for physical assets and any good will that needs to be impaired over time when it is warranted.
If Microsoft decides to sell the company they just acquired, they can! Maybe in next 2 months? 2 years? 2 decades? The new subsidiary of Microsoft is not melting away. It is there. Maybe value might be depreciates or may even go up. Depending on its performance!
The point is, if this division makes even 10% profit for Microsoft while it's net book value is still something they can sell if they wish to, they aren't really losing money...
Revenue is going to be just "icing" on that cake they just acquired.
@Col_McCafferty I do not care about you betting any thing.
Do you own stocks in Sony? Because you sound like you do at this point, or you are an absolutely dedicated marketing volunteer that Sony has aqauired without ever even looking at your resume.
For what ever reason, drop the fanboy act for a moment and be more reasonable. You have been spreading false information on the basis of claiming that game pass is not going to allow you to "share games" ever with your friend, when no one told you to own a game pass. You can have a disc version just fine. It's got a disc slot there in series x. Check the pictures. It's there. People used to to make assumptions around its size when console was not in hands of any reviewer back in the day.
You can out discs in just fine, then eject them and take em to your buddies...
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Re: Kojima Reportedly in Talks with Xbox as PS5's Abandoned Prompts Conspiracy Theories
@BrainHacker looking forward to seeing what crapgammer pulls out his tukhus this time.
Re: Poll: Is PlayStation Losing Ground to Xbox?
Post #287
It is irrelevant whether you have an Xbox sitting next to your ps5 or you have Phil Spencer himself cookin your breakfast.
At the beginning of Ps4, the list of exclusives was atrocious. Ps4 sold well any way.
You can play 3rd party on either console and other will gather dust just fine. Your argument about how many exclusives you have been playing isn't going to change the fact that there are advantages of having an Xbox atm. It gathering dust in your shelf isn't going to change my mind one bit.
Don't bother arguing with me though, I know you haven't spent much time on it, considering you have only played 1 game so far.
I am used to quick resume now and any game I can get my hands on Xbox, will be played on Xbox because quick resume is just gorgeous.
I will gladly play first party ps5 games when I get get my hands on a ps5 without touching a scalper.
But let's not cast a false image of what series x offers.
Controller? It does not need to change a controller that has no need to be changed. It is not boring. It works absolutely great and has a fantastic build to it. It is slightly more compact than Xbox one. You do not understand the difference in size but my wife is thankful since she enjoys the smaller build for her gaming needs.
I like playing "any game I play" with a higher fps, where ever the heck I can.
Series X has been a fantastic purchase so far for me and quick resume is just not something you can get over when you play any thing any where else.
In any case, ps5 will be my place to play exclusives I can't get else where.
Re: PS5 Players Unable to Upgrade Yakuza: Like a Dragon for Free
@thefourfoldroot I am not sure if developer sees any thing from sales or purchase of a second hand game.
Re: PS5 Players Unable to Upgrade Yakuza: Like a Dragon for Free
@tameshiyaku 2 people can play one game copy. Simultaneously.
Re: God of War Ragnarok Will Release 'When It's Done' on PS5
@Carl-G I am not sure if you realize this but your last post is absurd.
First, You are suggesting that Sony shouldn't have even brought up a release date if they weren't sure when the game was going to be finished... So they wouldn't "mislead" the audience.
You then proceed to suggest that they should have only misled the audience... "if/when" Microsoft ever announced... And I quote... "if ever" a AAA exclusive?
Really dude? Really?
Re: God of War Ragnarok Will Release 'When It's Done' on PS5
@starbuck2212
Wait, I am so confused right now. so are you claiming that they were not telling the truth the entire time?
Re: God of War Ragnarok Will Release 'When It's Done' on PS5
@AdamNovice your post #46 is the reason why people call someone like you a fanboy.
No one needs to give you an explanation. You will conjure it your self to curb your own expectations.
I mean do you honestly have no idea how ridiculous you sound in that post?
"it could be first reveal for all we knew". Really? That is what the "date" on trailers mean now a days? "first reveal"?
My Lord.
Re: Some PS5 Users Are Inserting Their Discs the Wrong Way Round
Doesn't matter how much effort you put into a product's design to make it fool proof.
God will simply outclass you by making a better fool.
Re: Sony Thinks PS5's Storage Space 'Should Be Fine'
@thedevilsjester I honestly can't imagine 10 games being about 700 Gb, are they?
Unless we are considering a mix of indie and aaa?
Re: Sony Believes PS5 Game Pricing Is Fair, Denies It Considered Charging More
@naruball technically you do not even have to read the article.
Why bothering reading any thing coming from the journalists relying on those sources?
You cannot reasonably expect "insider" sources to be revealed to you so you can have the "insider scoop" and the name of the source.
Your need to know who the source is clouding your thought process on why it is kept secret.
Edit : if I am not mistaken, you have had this conversation on this website less than a month ago with another person.
Re: Sony Believes PS5 Game Pricing Is Fair, Denies It Considered Charging More
@TheFrenchiestFry I think Quebec is like over 14%?
4 provinces are below 10% I think, including Alberta
Re: Sony Thinks PS5's Storage Space 'Should Be Fine'
@theMEGAniggle let us assume for a second, that your need is not the only need being discussed, but rather need of the majority, or minority, in this case.
I can respect that you don't care about it for your own needs but when discussing these topics, you can't just turn a blind eye towards the need of every one "not you" .
You have to consider the possibility of others. Market isn't designed to handle the need of the one needing the least space, but rather the one that needs most, to ensure they cater to a wider audience.
Edit : to clarify, as long as expansion storage option is available to me, I don't care if the size of the local drive available to me is 600 or 800. Either are fine since they both aren't enough. I just want to be able to add storage.
Same concept where I am comfortable with buying a phone with only 64gb internal and expanding it with 500gb cards.
I wouldn't mind more than 64 Gb, if price wasn't excruciatingly high.
Re: Sony Believes PS5 Game Pricing Is Fair, Denies It Considered Charging More
@naruball huh
I mean if it is an insider news, do you want the person, who the source is, to be fired for the sake of your need to know who it was?
I am sure they rather keep that job and keep the mouth shut instead, resulting in no "insider news".
Plus this person may only have a relationship with one journalist and wouldn't want other journalist to hound him for more info either.
I mean there are tonnes of reason why a source name wouldn't be leaked.
Hence why you take insider news with a grain or salt.
It is not always 100% accurate, and could be speculative too.
Re: Sony Believes PS5 Game Pricing Is Fair, Denies It Considered Charging More
@TheFrenchiestFry @HotGoomba___Rebrand
I think it is more expensive for us in Canada, with tax of 13%
Re: Sony Believes PS5 Game Pricing Is Fair, Denies It Considered Charging More
@ArcadeHeroes well, hold on a second.
You have a fixed cost component and a variable cost component in there.
It works fine for as long as you have only 1 game.
The moment that jumps to 2, you have to split the cost of fixed over the games you have purchased, and then add it to the cost of that "one game" that you wish to discuss.
At 1 game! 140 "each"
2, 110
3, 100
Etc etc.
Also, the benefit of ps plus are more than what ever is behind the pay wall for being online. You do get monthly free games I think?
I personally do not have Ps+ since I only play certain exclusives that do not require Ps+.
Re: Ubisoft Outlines Benefits of Playing Watch Dogs, Assassin's Creed, More on PS5
In another news, Sun rose from East today.
Re: Fans Are Trying to Figure Out if PS5 Has Quick Resume
@Gravity_Bear I would say I really like your concept. I wish that was the case? Unsure if it is. Need real time hands on experience with the device
Re: Fans Are Trying to Figure Out if PS5 Has Quick Resume
@wiiware ok. I agree!
Re: Fans Are Trying to Figure Out if PS5 Has Quick Resume
@Gravity_Bear your post makes sense and your concept is more or less what I think this is as well.
As far as space taking goes, I am under the impression that it will go with what ever games save file size is. As for now I do not know what their tech is using and not using other than save file size.
Considering it takes approximately 6 seconds to load the resume, I think they keep the data point and what the ai was doing and load the texture during this time? Unsure how big a spot they may require to do this for each game
Re: Fans Are Trying to Figure Out if PS5 Has Quick Resume
@wiiware and that is where you don't Get it friend.
I would absolutely love the concept of it in ps5 as well.
People are caring about it not because of console wars but because it is legit a solid tech.
I will have a ps5. I will definitely want it. Any one who knows how decent this thing is, wants it.
You aren't wrong about fanboys on Xbox side btw. But I wouldn't chalk this up as a tech only desired because it is on Xbox and not on playstation.
Re: Fans Are Trying to Figure Out if PS5 Has Quick Resume
@thedevilsjester I honestly mistakenly pasted your nickname in my post. It wasn't meant for you but another gentleman that I wrote a longer post to later
Re: Fans Are Trying to Figure Out if PS5 Has Quick Resume
@Sub-Xero
Friend. I understand what you mean. Thank you for explaining.
But my question to you is, how sure are you that it is actually wasting the resources? How do you know what the secret sauce behind this feature is?
Are developers complaining about it consuming resources or something?
Should I just be skeptical because, well it is what keeps me from feeling like I had too many expectations?
A device can be capable of doing more than what you want it to do, if it poses no hinderance to your experiences.
I can respect your choice in your games. Your play style and all that makes you happy. Heck I am. Happy that you will never need to use this feature!
I buy my games like you, but I prefer digital over physical because I run multiple consoles. I can play one copy of my game on 2 consoles simultaneously. To me, again... It is useful, while to you, it is not.
However you are not going around telling me that having the digital option is pointless or useless because you don't use it?
I do not call this feature "pointless or useless" because it doesn't really hold my experience back in any shape or form so far.
That is all I am saying here.
Edit: night night. Sleep time.
Re: Fans Are Trying to Figure Out if PS5 Has Quick Resume
@Mikey856 because it is not same as shutting game down and restarting from a check point..
Vs
A game can be continued from where it is left of, mid activity.
Checkpoints do not allow any activity in between to persist.
They only save a state of game.
This feature allows your activity to persist as if you simply hit "pause" mid air while jumping
You could pause a game mid killing an npc, plmove to another game, come back and continue with killing that npc
Re: Fans Are Trying to Figure Out if PS5 Has Quick Resume
@wiiware
Any one who plays more than 1 game will find this feature to be useful.
Heck even if 30% people will ever use it, it is good having this there for them.
Those other 70% who will "never use it" have no concern associated with this, other than, "I don't like it"
But if that statement goes from "I don't like it" to "I don't like it and it is unnecessary", then that is where my beef is.
I don't care if you find it necessary. It is not causing your machine any performance issues.
It is not holding your current experience back.
Don't use it. Move on. But don't make claims like "it is unnecessary". Even a small percentage of those who find this feature useful, makes it a solid addition when it really doesn't hold any one back from having a good experience.
Re: Fans Are Trying to Figure Out if PS5 Has Quick Resume
>For example I have just come out of an RDR2 18 hour play session and after that I have been playing Pes 2020 since yesterday and a such for someone who games like I do.........
For someone who may have played TLOU and Gow and will probably play Spider man, all being single player, story games
And if they ever want to get on destiny because they may need to provide assistance,
Or because their kid is now asking them to play another game with them on same console, or for what ever reason, it is worth it. Your evidence again, doesn't provide me with a reason why the "gimmick" as you may call it, shouldn't exist.
You have simply aid that it is not useful to you. In no shape or form can you possibly imply that something that may not be useful, may also not useful to others. Because that would simply be dumb. Yes?
> Quick resume is pointless but will be useful for those who prefer it.....
Again. Let me repeat.
It is not pointless if it is "useful" for those who who may want to use it. Specially when it has zero negative impact on you, other than "pointless to you".
Is this concept too complex for you?
>So how does that now make me a fan boy because from what has been shown about the feature........ I have not been impress by it by one bit......
It makes you a fanboy because you lack the comprehension required to actually do some research and come up with actual reasonable arguments, rather than simply point fingers at something "you" do not find useful and go "mommy! Me no likey!"
I don't care about you being impressed by it. You are irrelevant in this equation.
This issue is not about you being impressed. It is about it being useful while posing no problems in terms of hindering resources.
Re: Fans Are Trying to Figure Out if PS5 Has Quick Resume
>"...but I honestly can't think of a time where I'll be switching between four different games every fifteen seconds. "
An exaggeration yes? No one switches games every 15 seconds. But I really have no issue with this other than, it is a quality of life change and this exaggeration makes it sound like it's an unnecessary feature, when it is not.
>" It's not a deal breaker for me personally if the PS5 doesn't have it."
I have zero issues with this statement.
What I have clearly stated is that I have an issue with people "voting" it because it presents his point, which is exaggerating the lack of need of this feature, which is then up voted, when his entire "opinion" hinges upon the fact that he won't use it because he doesn't find it useful.
Amy one else simply up voting his point, because they believe it is not useful for them either, when it has absolutely nothing to do with it being not useful to them.
The issue is, they have zero reason to argue against having this feature.
And those who are even suggesting don't fully comprehend this feature and compare it to things like suspend feature from Ps4 which it is nothing like.
In other words? They are up voting something while either having a lack of understanding around what the feature is, and the fact that if they don't need it, it doesn't need to be there.
That right above is silly. A feature that provides no downside and has only potential to have upside, cannot be perceived as a hindrance.
>And now you are calling people take liked his comment fanboys...........
Read above. I am specifically calling those who do not research features and simply dislike something because it came in a box that they don't support, or because they simply don't like it, and features they don't need or approve shouldn't exist? I have probably harsher terms for them, it I will stick with "fanboys" for now.
>So are we all supposed to sheepishly be blown away by a feature some of us find to be a pointless marketing ploy..........
It is not a marketing ploy and it is not pointless. If you aren't able to comprehend why I am making this claim, then perhaps you aren't simply someone I find worth discussing this point with.
Do your research.
I don't care about your feelings. I care about your facts. So far, there are none, other than you simply not liking it because, well "you don't find it useful"
Re: Fans Are Trying to Figure Out if PS5 Has Quick Resume
>You like the quick resume cool for you.......
But that does not make it mind blowing for everybody else as it is for you.............
tilts head
It is absolutely a fantastic feature for reasons I have given in multiple posts above.
Your entire argument hinges upon your right to not like something.
Not liking something is fine.
Not liking something because you won't use it or you don't think it is useful is limited to you.
In other words, it's existence has zero bearings on you. It being present doesn't hinder you. It is cool that you don't want to use it. But you cannot claim that it is not useful in a nut shell.
it not being present is a downgrade from what that technology offers for those who care about it. In other words? It not being there matters to those of us who find it fantastic.
>What is more disturbing is that in a supposedly free world..... People are nto allowed to have free opinions....
Free opinions are like buttholes. Every one has one.
It is free world so you can make claims like "since I don't think it is useful, it doesn't need to exist."
It is free world so I can make claims like "you are incorrect because it doesn't hinder you by existing. It can only benefit, and not take away from experience by making your worse in any shape or form."
>RBmango above mentioned in his or her post that quick resume is cool for those whole like it.... He did demean the feature or talk bad about it..... Just that it's good for those that like it and that it's not for him...........
His exact quote is"i get that Quick Resume is a really neat feature on the Xbox and it's definitely impressive from a tech perspective,... "
I do not have issue with this statement because he recognizes the value of it.
Re: Fans Are Trying to Figure Out if PS5 Has Quick Resume
@GREGORIAN
>.. So since when are people not allowed to not to like something or not be blown away by it because you do.....
Good attempt at deflecting the problem at hand, but you do it When you have zero good reason
You are blowing away something when your reasoning is no better than "I don't think I will use it" "I think it is unnecessary" when I am clearly explaining in several posts with example above why those statements are incorrect.
You cannot actually give me a down side of it.
That is the issue.
There is no downside to this.
>You sound like the people who expect other people to be happy when you are happy and expect people to be sad when you are sad.....
You sound a person who assumes alot of things with zero facts.
Baseless assumptions don't work so well.
Simply put, you are wrong for assuming that about me since you have no idea about me.
I find it amusing when fanboyish behaviour goes to a point that every thing said by them becomes freedom of speech and an "opinion", regardless of how baseless that opinion might be.
Just because you "have" an opinion, doesn't make it a "valid" opinion. Learn the difference.
Re: Fans Are Trying to Figure Out if PS5 Has Quick Resume
@Sub-Xero you will use it so naturally that you won't even know you are using it.
You are not seriously telling me that you have zero digital games.
I mean game pass is there. It is all digital. You can go buy a copy of a game that might be on game pass. But you can keep that copy mint in your collection without breaking the seal. If it is in game pass, you are playing it digitally.
Re: Fans Are Trying to Figure Out if PS5 Has Quick Resume
@Arnna food for thought.
I am playing overcooked 2. In the middle of my game.
Buddy msgs me on division 2 to help them out in a raid at a specific point.
Gee, do I tell him to wait for me to finish the game?
Nah. Don't have to. I can switch games, get on, help the buddy out, go back to overcooked like nothing happened later.
Might sound too small for you?
Here.
I am playing arkham. I am doing amazing in an area in crazy hard mode here ei am trying to clear the room. Taking my time without getting seen.
Maybe buddy in destiny 2 needs assistance. I will not want to leave my progress because I know I will have to start that section all over... Or maybe I don't?
You see, just because you "won't" use something, doesn't make it worth any less.
It is useful, for those that can utilize it. Having the option doesn't hurt you.
Not having the option might make me wanna refuse my buddy's request or I lose my progression and effort.
I rather have the option to resume the game where I left it.
Appreciating the quality of life improvement doesn't put you in a bad spot, even if you won't have the need to use it.
Re: Fans Are Trying to Figure Out if PS5 Has Quick Resume
@wiiware you only have one game on Ps4 and one game on pc?
Re: Fans Are Trying to Figure Out if PS5 Has Quick Resume
@Gravity_Bear maybe I don't get you? I am confused.
It is like you thought of an inferior idea about saving check point so you can resume later.
And considered it to work better than the alternative, that is quick resume.
However, It does exactly what you just asked for, without you actually needing to save the game really.
You wouldn't have lost any progress either way? So why go through the whole hassle of saving the game and reloading the game?
Now if you were suggesting that the game should allow to save your progress so if you mess up, you can start from previously saved point, then yeh but that is entirely a different concept than what quick resume is all about.
Re: Fans Are Trying to Figure Out if PS5 Has Quick Resume
@Mikey856 you do not understand the concept of quick resume in Xbox then. (comment #38)
Re: Fans Are Trying to Figure Out if PS5 Has Quick Resume
@thedevilsjester here is the thing. You can power your entire console down. Keep it unplugged for 24 hrs or more. Plug it back when ever you want.
Restart the console. Click the game. It still quick resumes.
You do not need to save or shut the game down at all.
Re: Fans Are Trying to Figure Out if PS5 Has Quick Resume
@RBMango it is mildly disturbing that you have 38 votes so far for a comment where you can't think of a "good reason" that would make you want to switch games back and forth.
I play various games depending on which of my friends are online and switching between games is absolutely fantastic where you do not have to constantly load a game.
No I do not need to switch games every 15 seconds, but it's what you call a quality of life change.
It is not "needed", but it doesn't hurt me to have it. It is not a bad feature. It is not a good feature. It is a fantastic feature.
If the voting on your comment is not indicative of how far the fanboyism can go, then I do not know what else to tell you.
It is legitimately you guys voting and suggesting that a fantastic feature like quick resume is simply an unnecessary upgrade.
It is alright to have games you enjoy on specific consoles. But learn to recognize the quality of life changes where they are introduced.
Want me to give you another example in opposite direction?
You do not need a 4k ui to play games it is unnecessary for you to allocate resources where they may be utilized for gaming instead.
I don't recall the last time I cared about how "pretty" might UI looked for the 1 minute I spent on it to switch between games or adjusting something in settings or checking store out.
Do you really "need the guide" picture in picture when you can watch it on another screen just fine?
Seriously.
I like the picture and picture stuff in ps5 because I loved the concept of it when it was something similar toin Xbox one in early days where I had side window. I skyped with buddies and played game or watched twitch while playing games.
Every thing has a value for as long as it improves your quality of life.
You do not need an Audi when you can have a Suzuki that can take you to point A to B. But you get it any way because it is a luxury.
Sheesh.
Re: Sony Explains PS5's New Voice Chat Reporting Feature
@God_of_Nowt
I technically do agree with @oldschool1987.
I get your point as well but he is correct that something like this can be rather toxic. I run a few different communities and one thing I have every one agree to is the fact that if they are adults, they need to behave like one. It doesn't mean just watching your own lingo.
It also means being able to be mature enough to withstand such lingo.
***** happens. People can be angry at times. People say hurtful things, not random "fudge Ur mom" type *****, but hurtful things. I chose to simply let them and move on.
It isn't polite when someone has a potential to report you for any thing they can take out of context.
The gentleman he is discussing above has, in the past, showed a very tendency of going "too PC", to a point where even I had to say harsh words to him in the past.
While his motivation was not completely wrong, his manner of pushing it was not right.
Alot of ***** said can be turned into hate speech very quickly and so yeh, 5 minutes really isn't a long time and any thing said can indeed be taken out of context.
Frankly speaking, it isn't a good enough reason for one to lose their access to games.
At best, they should receive a "status" to go with their profile suggesting that "this user is not friendly" maybe after repeated warnings.
In any case, you 2 had a decent and polite discussion, heated or not.
Good talking both of you. It was respectful.
Re: Bethesda Acquisition Will Not Impact PlayStation Immediately, Believes Pachter
@SonuvLiberty
What operating system are you running this game on?
Also care to elaborate how MS won't be seeing a penny from you considering you are intending to play games that "might" be a part of their published catalogue going forward?
Re: Japanese Preview Image Shows an Actual PS5, Makes It Look a Lot Smaller
@Flaming_Kaiser
Seriously. You just told him to get off this website, suggesting that if he likes Xbox or says any thing about ps5 in a negative light, he doesn't belong here?
And you aren't coming across as a play station fanboy for not hearing his opinion?
You didn't disagree with him. You just flat out didn't even bother with countering his argument. You simply told him he doesn't belong here. And you are going to call "him" a fanboy?
Really dude? You don't see the irony?
Re: Yakuza: Like a Dragon PS5 Version Coming March 2021, Free Upgrade Confirmed
@Medic_Alert I mean no one ran out to buy a PS when Avengers kept spider man from other platforms.
Or when games like Destiny delayed every expansion's some Object/Map for an entire year from xbox users, while the cost was same for purchase for both platforms?
But at this point, it is simply dumb for Microsoft to want to do that tbh.
What ever the reason maybe.
Re: Maybe Don't Get Your Hopes Up for Future Bethesda Games on PS5
@MattBoothDev
I am quite honestly unsure about how your decision has changed at all?
Were you planning to buy an Xbox before Microsoft purchased zenimax?
Or are you simply suggesting that you plan on boycotting any games that has Microsoft listed as owner?
I am unclear on the details. Sorry about that.
Re: Maybe Don't Get Your Hopes Up for Future Bethesda Games on PS5
@BAMozzy entirely agreed with you.
Re: Maybe Don't Get Your Hopes Up for Future Bethesda Games on PS5
@AdamNovice (comment 81) well I am certainly glad that the decision is not up to you at all then, aren't I?
Re: Maybe Don't Get Your Hopes Up for Future Bethesda Games on PS5
@Arnna technically any company producing an exclusive is losing a bunch of money when they chose to go exclusive. This is not just true for Microsoft but also Sony exclusives.
While we all play 110 Million Ps4 sold and measly 30 million Xbox sold mantra, let's not forget that there is still more money when games are provided to a wider audience.
Let's not jump between "oh Microsoft will make more money if they remain multiplatform" while also praising how "exclusives are the backbone for Sony's" success.
Technically buying a console just to play "horizon and bloodborne" doesn't make me overly joyous either.
Re: Maybe Don't Get Your Hopes Up for Future Bethesda Games on PS5
Almost 90% of the commenters(I am generous with the percentage, I would have said a higher number otherwise) have no clue about how investments, transactions, and finances are recorded.
I am literally just watching you all talk about investments like you have some clue about how it all works when you couldn't possibly be farther from the actual concepts associated with acquisitions ...
I can respect journalists and their ethics around wanting to "uncover" the truth with as "little" (I mean at least in theory) bias as possible.
But why pretend to know how a business handles its transactions on paper?
Why do you all keep treating this entire acquisition like its a bloody expense when it is not?
Do you all honestly really believe that when Sony or Microsoft, multi b(Tr)illion dollar companies make investment, they are managed without a proof of concept, multiple cost analysis, assessing potential benefits while mitigating risks?
It is mind boggling.
Then there are these other people who all call themselves gamers, but will "not touch" a game they played for years because it's now owned by some company they "deemed" anti consumer because of some sense of loyalty to their preferred platform?
Games are games.
I buy games on a console made by a company I find absolutely ***** for when it comes to handling their customer service and warranties. I will never forget the ***** my family had to deal with because they made a mistake by purchasing a vaio.
Be loyal to games. Not a plastic box.
Be loyal to your wallet, and don't worry too much about the sustainability of multi billion dollar corporations.
Re: Poll: Has Xbox's Bethesda Buyout Made You Reconsider a PS5 Purchase?
@Saitama117 ? I honestly do not think that you get it.
You completely missed my point. I am telling you that they actually "DO NOT" have to make all the money back because it was never listed as an EXPENSE on their Financial statements.
It is still listed as an ASSET and not an Expense. Just like Cash is an asset... so is acquired "assets".
Their recent purchase is not going to be entirely written under their Cost of Goods Sold.
As long as their FUTURE costs for production and operations are offset by their Revenue, which also takes their Depreciation costs into account since it is listed as an Operating expense as well.
If their Depreciation for their acquired asset and cost of Goods produced and sold is off set by their Revenue, they are doing great!
Edit: The concept that you are talking about by the way is called "breaking even". Where what ever you spend, won't be recovered until you have made the cost back, and then the profit kicks in.
However when assets are involved, they aren't all amortized within first year against the revenue. They get stripped away over years, and decades in some cases, where cost trickles into their operating expenses over time.
In your scenario, if they took entire cost of acquisition, they would have auditors up their butts talking about trying to play on expenses because they are reporting a Lesser revenue for Xbox division (greater loss higher expense bringing revenue number down) than they would otherwise.
Re: Poll: Has Xbox's Bethesda Buyout Made You Reconsider a PS5 Purchase?
@Bubsbud Your "I will never own an Xbox in my life" puts a completely negative spin on what you are saying.
I get your point now after your clarification.
Re: Poll: Has Xbox's Bethesda Buyout Made You Reconsider a PS5 Purchase?
>Xbox fans are the ones making out you need for your gaming requirements is a subscription to Game Pass but that's simply not true. It's not the great deal some of you make it out to be, not if you're actually passionate about gaming and care what you play and when.
It is actually an absolutely fantastic deal. You are right. It's not just a great deal.
Oh and buddy. Don't question my loyalty to gaming world. I have been a gamer for 30 years at the very least.
I have had over 10 k hours in guild wars 1. I have played wow for yesrs in top 25 clan in world.
I have played destiny 1 and 2 for over 4000 hours combined.
I have spent thousands of hours in division. Heck i am in top clan in the world on Xbox for division 2.
I min max builds. I educate people in raids. I spend 3 to 8 hours with newbies to help them figure mechanics and gear out. Why?
I really am very fudging passionate about gaming. I have countless hours in games.
You are making ps side sound like a righteous base when you are behaving like a self righteous person.
>Anyway, each to their own I suppose.
Get your facts checked mate.
2/2
Edit.also sleep time for me. Night.
Re: Poll: Has Xbox's Bethesda Buyout Made You Reconsider a PS5 Purchase?
239Col_McCafferty2m ago
>@TrolleyProblems Mate, I think you might be on the wrong site!
Incorrect. I buy play station every generation. I come to this site to keep an eye on information on exclusive games I play.
You however might have mistaken this site for a platform that only fanboys can thrive on.
>Of course people can still buy games on Xbox but it's clear that MS don't want you to or at least they want you to have Game Pass as well. So maybe you'll actually end up spending more money and it feels like you aren't.
Sorry, what are your sources that suggest that Microsoft "clearly" do not want you to buy games on their platform? Every thing in that statement of yours is absolutely silly.
Microsoft would absolutely prefer for you to "pay" for game pass "and the game" if you can.
That's just better revenue mate.
Also, maybe you do not understand your finances well, but I am a certified public accountant. Trust me. I know my finances well.
No one is "making" me pay any thing. I "chose" to pay where I thought it was worth paying. I speak with my wallet.
The fact that games on game pass allow me the opportunity to test them before I make my decision to want to "buy" them, is entirely in my hands. I am not some naive individual who doesn't know crap about his money. And I am quite certain that majority of people who talk about "saving money monthly" can do the same thing. They are assessing their options and seeing what they can and can't afford.
Should not they not be able to afford to buy games, game pass makes it a heck of a sweet deal for them. If it didn't exist, they might try 10 games out of 100 it has available. Cost can be a bitch.
>Anyway, what people choose to spend on games is up to each individual. There's nothing wrong with pre-ordering every major release or looking for bargains. The key is you will own the games yourself. You don't through Game Pass or at least you do as long as your subscribe into it.
Again. You claim that you understand what game pass is and that people have the option to buy the games... And yet you still keep contradicting your self.
I can "buy" game if I want to. I can chose to not buy a game if I don't want to.
When I do want to buy it, I buy it. Because I want that game to be owned by me. When I chose to "lease" my game so I can enjoy it and be done with it, it is no different than you buying a game, and then trading it back to game stop for some credit to get something else, or new.
Again. You are not correct.
>I'm wary of such a model and it's not as if it's great in other mediums. Sure Netflix do produce some good stuff but the majority of stuff on there isn't that good or its certainly not aimed at the likes of me. And if you're a film fan? Is Netflix enough? Hell no so you still need to spend money in other ways i.e. cinema, Blu-ray, digital purchases, other streaming sites.
You are typing way too much nonsense here.
I don't care about what you do with your netflix.
You can live without Netflix just fine. You aren't saying that Netflix is a must either. So why do you keep suggesting that game pass is the only option when in your own explanation, when you clearly are explaining appropriately to me that netflix is not?
1/2
Re: Poll: Has Xbox's Bethesda Buyout Made You Reconsider a PS5 Purchase?
@Saitama117 um... You do not have it right.
That is not how return on investments work.
They aren't trying to make entire value of their purchase back through revenue earnt by games developed by said purchase.
The value of of 2 kind.
1) value of the company and its assets, isn't dissapearing. It includes both the company and its talent. It goes on their BS, under assets. Btw, this may even include good will in acquisition price.
2) any revenue made by this acquired company now gets treated as revenue on their PnL statement.
Item #2 is being generated periodically and brings them profits if acquisition does well.
The value of #1 however is not dissapearing into thin air. That value may get depreciated over time for physical assets and any good will that needs to be impaired over time when it is warranted.
If Microsoft decides to sell the company they just acquired, they can! Maybe in next 2 months? 2 years? 2 decades? The new subsidiary of Microsoft is not melting away. It is there. Maybe value might be depreciates or may even go up. Depending on its performance!
The point is, if this division makes even 10% profit for Microsoft while it's net book value is still something they can sell if they wish to, they aren't really losing money...
Revenue is going to be just "icing" on that cake they just acquired.
Re: Poll: Has Xbox's Bethesda Buyout Made You Reconsider a PS5 Purchase?
@Col_McCafferty I do not care about you betting any thing.
Do you own stocks in Sony? Because you sound like you do at this point, or you are an absolutely dedicated marketing volunteer that Sony has aqauired without ever even looking at your resume.
For what ever reason, drop the fanboy act for a moment and be more reasonable. You have been spreading false information on the basis of claiming that game pass is not going to allow you to "share games" ever with your friend, when no one told you to own a game pass. You can have a disc version just fine. It's got a disc slot there in series x. Check the pictures. It's there. People used to to make assumptions around its size when console was not in hands of any reviewer back in the day.
You can out discs in just fine, then eject them and take em to your buddies...