Overcooked All You Can Eat and Hitman 2 are great, but I already own both. I don't take any issue with this though, it is what it is.
I actually have Hitman 2 on PC so I'll be claiming it on PS Plus anyway, I just can't see myself really playing it since I have the Gold version + Hitman 1 GOTY on PC
(incidentally I got both of these in a Humble Bundle that's currently active and only around £8 for both of those, plus a few more indie stealth games - if anybody plays games on PC and is interested. For £8 it's well worth it. Also includes a 10% off voucher for Hitman 3, but I'd rather just get my mastery up on all the hitman 1 and 2 levels while I wait for Epic Games' exclusivity on Hitman 3 to end )
I take slight issue with the sentence "consumer expectations have, on the whole, been altered. If the same game is on multiple platforms, you shouldn't have to pay more than once"
Only issue I have here is that we're not really talking about "multiple platforms" at all. For PC, Steam and GOG and Epic Games are multiple, completely different platforms - and as such I wouldn't expect to have access to a game for free on Epic Games or GOG just because I've bought it on Steam.
PSN is just one platform. Sure, there are several sorts of hardware supported (PS4 and PS5 being the main ones) but the same could be said of all the PC platforms - a Steam game needs to be able to run on endless different hardware configurations - and they're bringing out their own "console" the Steam Deck (looks a bit like a Switch clone) which will also play all the games you'd otherwise only play on PC
At the moment PSN is the outlier in that both Xbox and PC platforms just sell you a game, and let you play the best version that you can (via smart delivery on xbox, or via graphics settings on PC) on anything as long as it meets the minimum required standards. At the moment it's only really Sony that's selling games to be played on specific hardware (or via backwards compatibility).
@Boxmonkey you can't compare prices in different regions purely based on the exchange rate. The basis for pricing games differently in different countries is much more complex than that, but it pretty much boils down to "what people can afford to pay for that game in that country". This is why there's a thriving market buying up Steam keys for poorer countries, and reselling them at a profit (but still well below the RRP) in the UK and other richer countries - because unlike PlayStation (not that you can buy PSN keys from third party vendors any more), Steam keys can be redeemed in any region, not just the one they were bought in.
The fact that Ratchet and Clank is more expensive over here, allowing for the exchange rate, means that UK gamers are considered better off than US gamers, it's not due to some vague "America Discount"
@get2sammyb you're not wrong, but to be fair both Call of Duty and FIFA are a little different in that, after whatever one off costs you might pay to play the game/upgrade to PS5, this is then followed by incentives to get you to shell out for microtransactions.
PS4 to PS5 upgrades that cost money aren't popular, but at least for the most part they're not a crazy amount of money (this would be the only really bad one so far from Sony, and that's if there isn't a "PS4 to PS5 upgrade" option for only a small fee, which there might well be), and once it's paid for you essentially have "the complete game". I don't like it but it's hardly the most egregious attempt at making more money off existing customers, whereas EA and Activision are so hell bent on making as much off microtransactions as they possibly can, that they deserve the extra abuse they get when they do any extra thing to nickel and dime their customers.
I already own Overcooked All you can eat, and have hitman 2 Gold edition on PC (so I'll claim it on PS Plus but I'm not likely to do much else with it). I don't think Predator: Hunting Grounds is likely to be my kind of game but I'm happy to just get down the backlog this month
@sanderson72 you apparently have a very short memory, or just haven't bothered to look up PS Plus's history. Pretty much every Sony console (since PSN anyway) has had monthly games on PS Plus.
The PS3 and Vita only dropped off the monthly games in March 2019 - and Feb 2019's PS Plus games included 6 games - 2 for PS4, 2 for PS3 (one of which was also Vita compatible) and 2 for Vita (both of which were also on PS4). And just like you can now, you could always claim games for even the consoles you didn't own, on the off chance that you bought one at some point.
Fact is, the only thing you or I have agreed to in this regard is "free games", and the only thing Sony have promised is "at least two". The only unusual thing about this situation is that the PS5 actually has backwards compatibility whereas the PS4 didn't.
@lolwhatno @kantaroo not quite true that you need two controllers. You can split the controller so that left stick + L1/L2 controls one character and the right side of the controller controls the other character.
It's not as good as having two controllers but if you only have one and don't want to pay £60 for one, I imagine you'd be happy that such an option exists
Obviously if you have four people playing the same applies, and you can get by with just 2 controllers to use 4 characters
That'd be annoying if the case. I've had overcooked all you can eat for a while now, and I've just bought hitman 2 - for PC though, so it's a game I don't have on PlayStation, just not one I'm likely to play
Yeah, last month's selection wasn't standout or anything but my kids have been having fun with Plants vs Zombies.
Last month mainly seemed to appeal to certain niches - like I said my kids are loving PvZ at the moment and I'm sure the tennis games will appeal to... well.. tennis people
Yeah... OK, PvZ aside if the other two games were actually any good I'd have called last month a "fairly good month" and dismissed complainers as over-entitled idiots, but it really wasn't a great month.
I'm honestly less and less bothered with exactly what games PS Plus is going to offer at the moment. It'd be nice if it was something decent this month, but between Playstation and PC gaming I've currently got a backlog of about 350 games (let's say only 50 of them are actually good/substantial enough for much of a time investment though - maybe even that is being a bit generous). But if it's a "bad" month it just means more time to get through some of those
@Keith_Zissou it's not down to £6.99 in readiness for leaving the service - it's down to £6.99 for the fourth time now and it happens on a pretty regular basis
Dishonored 2 is pretty tempting at that price, but I think I'll grab it on GOG instead, despite the fact that it's about £2 cheaper on PSN
First person games with a controller are just awful. I mean they're bearable if there's no other option (or if they're free with PS Plus), but I'll always play them on PC given the choice.
@Logonogo oh come on, you're "significantly behind" because of time zones - the rationale is reasonable but if you disagree at least you only have to wait a few hours. It's not exactly the situation we had in the 90s when Europe got games months after they released in the US - a few hours is barely "significant" in comparison
I didn't think it was a brilliant month. But then I didn't think last month was a brilliant month either except for Plague Tale, yet I managed to have some goofy fun with the WWE game with my two sons (9 and 11 years old). I'd never have bought that game in a million years but being subscribed to PS plus meant we at least have it a try - and while I still wouldn't go and buy it or anything it was a bit of fun.
(Plague tale was the stand out game for me last month, but I've been busy finishing off Days Gone and starting Dark Souls, so haven't got round to playing that yet)
We'll probably give the tennis and plants Vs zombies games a go this month - because while there are some fantastic games out there that I'd love to see on PS plus, many of them don't really do couch co-op so any game that does is worth a try, even if it's not one I'd be interested in buying otherwise
Gamers: complain that Bethesda keep re-releasing Skyrim on every new console possible
Also gamers: we want to play FF6 on PS4/PS5
(Personally I'd rather get this on PC anyway so I'm free to just play it on an old laptop if I want to rather than hogging the family PS5 to play a 27 year old game - but I get that not everyone sees things this way)
@frankmcma strangely enough, if you use the PS App on your phone, that has all the same screenshots and trailers as the store on your PS4/PS5 does. I do find it bizarre that the web app is so bare though
@J2theEzzo the prices are live (I bought Dark Souls at about 12:30 a.m. in the UK, and it definitely wasn't in last week's sale) it's just the deals page that isn't showing up yet
@Loftimus GOG.com (PC game website/platform, if you're not familiar) does a very similar thing there - in that they'll sell Metro 2033 and Last Light for about £3 each when there's a sale on, and Exodus for under £20 for the Gold edition, but the "franchise bundle" is typically only reduced down to £50 or so, despite the fact that it doesn't contain anything not in the other 3 games
aside from "its not really happening" there's two ways I can see this going:
1: the movies are mostly a bit rubbish and don't incur much in the way of licensing costs
2: the "game" is actually free to play - and the movies are bought/rented with microtransactions (comparable to renting a movie from Amazon or elsewhere)
hoping for a sale on Dark Souls Remastered (it's not been reduced for a few months now), as I've recently finished DS2 on PC and already bought DS3, but would rather play DS1 first
the surest way of checking is just to check your emails and see what your receipt from PSN says. If the product in the email is:
"A Plague Tale: Innocence (Full Game Trial)"
then it's definitely the trial
Yes that's right. I tried to claim it too, on the off chance that I leave it so long to play this that I'm not a Plus subscriber any more - it was when I was clicking "add to library" that I spotted the word "trial". I actually can't see it in the PS App now, but I can see it on the web app, as I'm not logged in
it could be that it was accidentally made free, and as a result they removed it from the store completely, but I still reckon the simple answer that you've claimed the trial version is most likely
@ViolentEntity why do you want a web browser on a console?
"Do you guys not have phones" may be a rubbish argument for releasing a game in a beloved franchise on mobile only, but it's a pretty good argument for not adding a web browser on a console
I can't think of a more tedious interface for web browsing than a console controller
@RunGMhx you need to let EA play expire, after it's expired you get the option to buy the game. I don't think Sony can do anything to remove the game from your account in the mean time, because it's an EA play license and not under their control
@themightyant ith regards indie publishers unable to put discounts on their games - do you have examples? I know there was an article recently mentioning something to that effect, but frankly every sale Sony puts out there (with a few exceptions e.g. the "weekend sale" this last weekend, and other specific sales where they're targeting AA/AAA games specifically) there's a point about 3 or 4 pages into the sales listings where I've clearly left the land of really well known/well reputed games. I can believe that indie games struggle to get promoted on PSN - to be fair the "console war" always seems to be about who can outperform who. The store does seem to prioritise AAA games, as though it's saying "you're the proud owner of a powerful gaming console, here are some of the latest things it can do" whereas PC based storefronts only really seem bothered that you own a computer, and will suggest games you might like rather than games that it feels will utilise your hardware. Anyway - it might actually be nothing to do with that, and more to do with Sony prioritising AAA publishers because they're AAA publishers, or maybe it's just sorting by popularity and it's the PlayStation gamers themselves who are buying up the games that they feel best use the hardware/AAA publishers.
My point is that except for the fairly rare sale that only targets AAA games, there doesn't really seem to be a shortage of discounted indie games (pages and pages of them in fact, most of the time), but they're usually buried under all the more popular games.
@XFinest_KnightX it's pretty standard for the industry as a whole to be fair. If you check GOG.com, Steam, Epic, Humble Bundle etc - there's always some kind of sale on. Some are bigger than others but there's always a new sale to replace the old sale that just finished.
This is how the world copes with the fact that "digital games are more expensive than physical games". I've never seen The Witcher 3 GOTY edition for sale for anything less than £10 retail for a physical copy, and yet it's £7 for a digital copy, what feels like every other week (it's really not every other week - my point is it's such a consistent reduction in price that you have to be mad to pay full price- £35, when there's definitely going to be another sale at some point)
@Ilovecoffee you're expecting a handheld console (essentially a tablet with a controller attached) to run games at 4K and still be affordable? Aside from the fact that this is Nintendo and they'll always go for marketable gimmicks over impressive technical specifications, those are some pretty unrealistic expectations
(I do have a switch so this isn't me knocking Nintendo - it's just that ever since the Wii at least, new Nintendo consoles have always just been "the current means to play Nintendo games" rather than impressive in their own right - other than the gimmicks, e.g. the Wii's motion controls)
@Waffles12415
People: "PlayStation doesn't do enough to promote indie games" (literally an article on this very website recently)
Also people: "why are PlayStation giving so much air time to indie games?"
Now it might be that these are actually entirely different people. I for one never bother to buy indie games for my PS5, because I'm also a PC gamer, so if I'm going to buy a game that could run on an old laptop (unfair generalisation? Maybe - but also true for most indie games) I'm going to buy the PC version so I can run it on my main gaming PC if I want to, or on a laptop of I want to. I'm not going to buy it on a platform where all I have to play it on is a ps5 - particularly because it means no one else can use the PS5 (I have 3 kids) while that game is being played
You know who didn't have this problem though? Peter Molyneaux. Always talking about brilliant new features in his games, and that's why he's remembered today as a Mozartesque master craftsman, packing more features into his games than you can shake a stick at, and more importantly making sure you know exactly what to expect come launch day well ahead of time.
But I guess this is a Playstation site, so most of his games (and this sarcasm) passed most of this community by
I've never used Dreams, but my feeling is that it probably suffers the same issue as Unity - the bar for entry is so low that the vast majority of the content is extremely low quality. There's the occasional "look what someone made in Dreams" post, just like there are plenty of perfectly good games made in Unity. It's just that there is so much rubbish about that the "made with Unity" screen is somewhat synonymous with "lower your expectations".
The main reason I'm apprehensive about Dreams though, is that it's all on Playstation. I can't imagine having a good experience making games using a playstation controller (having googled it, they don't even let you use keyboard and mouse, which is just baffling given that PS4 & PS5 support them). I can imagine bearing with it for a few tutorials and maybe making something basic (the sort of thing that would be classed as the low quality content referred to above) but I can't imagine sticking with it long enough to make something of any real quality, especially a whole game.
Certainly there are people that do stick with it beyond that - but even they seem to be mainly just producing what amounts to tech demos, not playable games of much substance.
This is what the people against Dreams going to PC seem to be missing. The argument for it being on PC isn't "give Sony stuff to PC people" - but rather the experience could be so much better that way overall, and that means people might be more likely to stick with it, which in turn means more better quality content
Of course, the argument against Dreams going to PC (other than "muh exclusives" I mean) is that PC already has Unity and Unreal Engine - both of which have free versions, and both of which I believe already allow publishing to PS4, although I've no idea how easy this is. Perhaps this is the niche Dreams could fill - develop your games on PC and then let people play them on Playstation without having to go through the process of getting them published on PS Store
@Rudy_Manchego how is it infuriating? There've been a few games on PS Plus where only the PS5 version was free, leaving PS4 owners unable to claim and play a game that was available for them to buy for PS4. But you're given a playable game without a free upgrade and that's infuriating?
I mean I claimed, played and loved FF7R and there's zero chance I'm paying £70 for merely quicker load times and Yuffie DLC (there are graphical improvements too but they're not exactly earth shattering - tbh with most PS5 free upgrades it seems all you're really getting is resolution + framerate + load times. Which is good but I'm a PC gamer too, so I'm used to those things simply being the result of sliders in the graphics settings/installing an SSD, not releasing a whole different version of a game). But I'm not mad at Square Enix - they're just not getting that much money for so little benefit
@Sinton nope, I thought that too. I assumed something had gone wrong with that block they can put on gameplay recording during "protected scenes". To be fair that's exactly the sort of thing I imagine would get publishers urging people not to stream the games, not something ridiculous like "it's actually showing your IP address on screen"
surely a recount must be in order! All I've been reading on the comments thread on the other article is "Elden Ring's consumer base isn't going to be very big if they won't add an easy mode"
(seriously though guys, an easy mode in that game wouldn't offend me in the slightest and you're very free to want/ask for one, I just find the idea that it will make a huge difference in the size of the playerbase a little unlikely - and I just found it funny that Elden Ring is #1 here even though it doesn't in any way disprove your points)
@JapaneseSonic I wouldn't call that cognitive dissonance - you just have a nuanced opinion. Part of the reason I don't think "easy mode" would work well with souls games is that the whole idea of "you die lots and learn/build up skills/level up over time until you can finally take on the endgame" isn't just a gameplay mechanic, it's baked into the lore and the style of the game. Having an easy mode in a game that's otherwise constantly dropping hints/flat out telling you that you're going to die constantly seems pretty contradictory. And I don't mind "souls-like" games that have different difficulty settings, I just think it doesn't really fit well with Dark Souls/FromSoftware games in particular
personally I wouldn't throw a big hissy fit if they decided to introduce "easy" difficulty in Dark Souls type games. The only reason I'm resitant to it is it doesn't really fit with the themes/lore of the games. I can only speak for playing Dark Souls and Bloodborne (as in, I don't know anything about Sekiro, haven't got to that yet). But the story in Dark Souls is that your character dies countless times, and there are mechanics around that (losing humanity and having to regain it - losing your souls/blood echoes but having a chance to retrieve them). Dark Souls 2 straight up tells your character that they will die lots in the video that plays at the start of the game, and NPCs refer to the fact that "you've died many times". None of this would make any sense if they introduced a mode that you could just walk through for people who didn't want to have to die
I liked Jedi: Fallen Order a lot (and actually played it before any From Software games) - the combat and gameplay mechanics in that game are very souls-like, but it's a different kind of story to Dark Souls. In the story, Cal doesn't die countless times - when the player dies, you restart from the last checkpoint and the story, canon wise, is that he made it all the way through the story in one shot - so it makes perfect sense that that game has an easy difficulty setting for players who just don't want to die that much. You don't have to keep pounding your head against a brick wall to advance, you can just turn the difficulty down (it doesn't even deny you any trophies for doing this) and move the story forward.
Dark Souls in contrast, generally, is incredibly light on story (not on lore - you just don't learn a lot of the story by passively "advancing the story" if that makes sense) but an integral part of it is that you will die an awful number of times. Also the difficulty of Souls games is often over-hyped anyway. They're difficult but a lot of the challenge isn't necessarily having/gaining skills but learning how to deal with enemies/situations/areas - as evidenced by the fact that no matter how many souls games you play, you'll always die lots at first in the next one you play - not because From keep making them harder and harder but because they like to mix things up to work against the habits you've built up in previous games.
Will I be playing Metro Exodus on PS5? Maybe if they put it on PS Plus one month
I do love the Metro games, but I have them all on PC now and frankly that's where I prefer to play FPS games anyway. Wouldn't mind playing it with haptic feedback but it's not really a deal breaker
@jdv95 not sure if cyberpunk will follow the same pattern but the price for The Witcher 3 is pretty consistent between GOG.com and Steam, as well as on the PS Store - I mean they're not all the same price at the same time, but all the same price when there's a sale on (£5 base game or £7 GOTY edition - we can ignore the Nintendo store, the switch version is a special case )
Cyberpunk prices seem to be pretty consistent between GOG and Steam at least, which is to say that the "on sale" price is about £39.99 (RRP £49.99 - not sure about USD)
Much as it would seem to make sense to offer it for a lower price on PS Store sure to all the issues it had at launch, I'm not sure if they'd go for that
"This could be the news that we've all been waiting for"
Who exactly is "we all" in this situation? I'm pretty sure the Cyberpunk hype train has pretty much completely derailed at this point. Sure there's tons of people who already bought the game, and I'm sure there are a few others who're enthusiastic to get it but I very much doubt there are masses of people waiting for their chance to buy it on the Playstation Store
I might be in the minority here but I really don't understand why anyone would want this on PS4/PS5 in the first place
"Available on PC and smartphones" only tells half the story here - "would easily run on your grandma's laptop" is more accurate . Maybe my family just has too much tech (in rough "descending power order"- PS5, desktop PC, Switch, 2x work laptops, 3x personal laptops, not to mention smartphones) but I'd never consider putting these games on any of the more powerful machines listed here if they were available on all platforms - maybe the switch. But most likely I'd just stick them on one of the personal laptops - mainly so I'm not stopping anyone using the PS5 because I want to spend some time playing a game that can be played on a potato.
And that's if I was likely to buy these games at all, which I'm not. I do love FF but I have a backlog to tend to
@MaseSco yeah if you weren't graphics card shopping that does make a lot more sense (especially at the moment) - I assume like everyone else though, you're planning for a GPU upgrade once prices become more "normal" (who knows when that will be - but at least with a PC you can just make do with what you've got for the moment)
@lindos sorry, I got confused there for a second. I thought you were the same person who said they'd spent £700 on a CPU. I didn't check the name, just spotted someone had replied
@lindos oh I see - did you mean £700 for the whole bundle of CPU/MB/RAM and SSD? That makes more sense, I thought you meant £700 for the 5600X chip alone - although obviously it wouldn't have been - for £700 you'd be more looking at a 5950X I'd have hoped.
But yeah, it makes sense to get bundle deals at the minute, particularly with the state of the graphics card market - component bundlers/PC builders have priority over consumers so quite often the GPUs are in stock for bundles, even if not available to buy individually
also you have to be crazy lucky to get a GPU anywhere near MSRP at the moment if you're buying it on it's own - even the retailers are charging a hefty markup due to the bitcoin boom (at least they were a month ago, haven't really been keeping a close eye). I managed to get hold of a GTX 1060 to pair with my 3300X for the "low" price of £190 back in March. It was actually a bit of a win because I ended up paying roughly MSRP (when it launched) for a couple year old card while everything else was 50% or so over MSRP - and even that was an "ex display" card, although I can't complain really. It'll run pretty much anything, just not crazy powerfully (my previous card was a GT 1030 so quite an improvement)
@lindos not a dumb question - but the simple answer is there's no such thing as a 1440p TV (and now that I've said it, someone will no doubt prove me wrong )
Technically speaking no, the PS5 can't currently output 1440p. What it can do is render 1440p, and then upscale/downscale to a resolution that it can output (e.g. 1080p or 4K). Rendering is a lot more work than upscaling/downscaling, hence why the performance mode lowers the rendered resolution, to achieve 120 fps
@MaseSco you spent about 60% of your budget on the CPU alone?
Based on the (possibly wrong) assumption that you wouldn't have bought a £700 CPU and stuck it in a £50 motherboard, I can only assume you're pushing a poor GTX 1650 way more frames per second than it can handle at the moment anyway (maybe even a GT 1030 if you forked out for RGB )
(kidding, I'm sure there's a reasonable explanation, just the idea of a £700 CPU in even a £1300 budget has blown my mind, unless you reused some existing parts from a previous PC)
I could never bring myself to buy Metro Exodus ready for the PS5 upgrade for a few reasons
1 - (least important) I'm convinced it's going to be a PS Plus game at some point
2 - I prefer to play FPS games on PC anyway
3 - I have both Metro 2033 and Last Light Redux on PC, and it's just nicer having the whole collection in one place
So when Humble Bundle made Metro Exodus the main game in their Choice bundle in May, I just had to jump on it there and then
Annoyingly though I have Metro 2033 and Last LIght on GOG - also on Epic since they made them freebies but I bought & played them on GOG first, whereas I have Exodus on Steam now - so they're not truly in the same library but at least they're all on the same platform (as in PC - technically GOG, Epic and Steam are all their own "platforms" too)
If it ever does make it on to PS Plus I'll no doubt claim it anyway, just to experience the enhanced edition (my PC isn't ray tracing ready at the moment and isn't likely to be any time soon )
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Re: Poll: Are You Happy With Your PS Plus Games for September 2021?
Overcooked All You Can Eat and Hitman 2 are great, but I already own both. I don't take any issue with this though, it is what it is.
I actually have Hitman 2 on PC so I'll be claiming it on PS Plus anyway, I just can't see myself really playing it since I have the Gold version + Hitman 1 GOTY on PC
(incidentally I got both of these in a Humble Bundle that's currently active and only around £8 for both of those, plus a few more indie stealth games - if anybody plays games on PC and is interested. For £8 it's well worth it. Also includes a 10% off voucher for Hitman 3, but I'd rather just get my mastery up on all the hitman 1 and 2 levels while I wait for Epic Games' exclusivity on Hitman 3 to end )
Re: Soapbox: I Don't Know How to Feel About This PS4-to-PS5 Upgrade Uproar
I take slight issue with the sentence "consumer expectations have, on the whole, been altered. If the same game is on multiple platforms, you shouldn't have to pay more than once"
Only issue I have here is that we're not really talking about "multiple platforms" at all. For PC, Steam and GOG and Epic Games are multiple, completely different platforms - and as such I wouldn't expect to have access to a game for free on Epic Games or GOG just because I've bought it on Steam.
PSN is just one platform. Sure, there are several sorts of hardware supported (PS4 and PS5 being the main ones) but the same could be said of all the PC platforms - a Steam game needs to be able to run on endless different hardware configurations - and they're bringing out their own "console" the Steam Deck (looks a bit like a Switch clone) which will also play all the games you'd otherwise only play on PC
At the moment PSN is the outlier in that both Xbox and PC platforms just sell you a game, and let you play the best version that you can (via smart delivery on xbox, or via graphics settings on PC) on anything as long as it meets the minimum required standards. At the moment it's only really Sony that's selling games to be played on specific hardware (or via backwards compatibility).
Re: PS Store Weekend Sale Discounts Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart, Demon's Souls, and More
@Boxmonkey you can't compare prices in different regions purely based on the exchange rate. The basis for pricing games differently in different countries is much more complex than that, but it pretty much boils down to "what people can afford to pay for that game in that country". This is why there's a thriving market buying up Steam keys for poorer countries, and reselling them at a profit (but still well below the RRP) in the UK and other richer countries - because unlike PlayStation (not that you can buy PSN keys from third party vendors any more), Steam keys can be redeemed in any region, not just the one they were bought in.
The fact that Ratchet and Clank is more expensive over here, allowing for the exchange rate, means that UK gamers are considered better off than US gamers, it's not due to some vague "America Discount"
Re: Sony Will Make You Pay Extra to Upgrade Horizon Forbidden West from PS4 to PS5
@get2sammyb you're not wrong, but to be fair both Call of Duty and FIFA are a little different in that, after whatever one off costs you might pay to play the game/upgrade to PS5, this is then followed by incentives to get you to shell out for microtransactions.
PS4 to PS5 upgrades that cost money aren't popular, but at least for the most part they're not a crazy amount of money (this would be the only really bad one so far from Sony, and that's if there isn't a "PS4 to PS5 upgrade" option for only a small fee, which there might well be), and once it's paid for you essentially have "the complete game". I don't like it but it's hardly the most egregious attempt at making more money off existing customers, whereas EA and Activision are so hell bent on making as much off microtransactions as they possibly can, that they deserve the extra abuse they get when they do any extra thing to nickel and dime their customers.
Re: PS Plus September 2021 PS5, PS4 Games Announced
Looks OK to me
I already own Overcooked All you can eat, and have hitman 2 Gold edition on PC (so I'll claim it on PS Plus but I'm not likely to do much else with it). I don't think Predator: Hunting Grounds is likely to be my kind of game but I'm happy to just get down the backlog this month
Re: Rumour: PS Plus September 2021 PS5, PS4 Games Allegedly Leaked
@sanderson72 you apparently have a very short memory, or just haven't bothered to look up PS Plus's history. Pretty much every Sony console (since PSN anyway) has had monthly games on PS Plus.
The PS3 and Vita only dropped off the monthly games in March 2019 - and Feb 2019's PS Plus games included 6 games - 2 for PS4, 2 for PS3 (one of which was also Vita compatible) and 2 for Vita (both of which were also on PS4). And just like you can now, you could always claim games for even the consoles you didn't own, on the off chance that you bought one at some point.
Fact is, the only thing you or I have agreed to in this regard is "free games", and the only thing Sony have promised is "at least two". The only unusual thing about this situation is that the PS5 actually has backwards compatibility whereas the PS4 didn't.
Re: Rumour: PS Plus September 2021 PS5, PS4 Games Allegedly Leaked
@lolwhatno @kantaroo not quite true that you need two controllers. You can split the controller so that left stick + L1/L2 controls one character and the right side of the controller controls the other character.
It's not as good as having two controllers but if you only have one and don't want to pay £60 for one, I imagine you'd be happy that such an option exists
Obviously if you have four people playing the same applies, and you can get by with just 2 controllers to use 4 characters
Re: Rumour: PS Plus September 2021 PS5, PS4 Games Allegedly Leaked
That'd be annoying if the case. I've had overcooked all you can eat for a while now, and I've just bought hitman 2 - for PC though, so it's a game I don't have on PlayStation, just not one I'm likely to play
Re: Talking Point: What September 2021 PS Plus Games Do You Want for PS5, PS4?
Yeah, last month's selection wasn't standout or anything but my kids have been having fun with Plants vs Zombies.
Last month mainly seemed to appeal to certain niches - like I said my kids are loving PvZ at the moment and I'm sure the tennis games will appeal to... well.. tennis people
Yeah... OK, PvZ aside if the other two games were actually any good I'd have called last month a "fairly good month" and dismissed complainers as over-entitled idiots, but it really wasn't a great month.
I'm honestly less and less bothered with exactly what games PS Plus is going to offer at the moment. It'd be nice if it was something decent this month, but between Playstation and PC gaming I've currently got a backlog of about 350 games (let's say only 50 of them are actually good/substantial enough for much of a time investment though - maybe even that is being a bit generous). But if it's a "bad" month it just means more time to get through some of those
Re: Two New PS Store Sales Contain Over 1,500 PS5, PS4 Game Deals
@Keith_Zissou it's not down to £6.99 in readiness for leaving the service - it's down to £6.99 for the fourth time now and it happens on a pretty regular basis
Re: Two New PS Store Sales Contain Over 1,500 PS5, PS4 Game Deals
Dishonored 2 is pretty tempting at that price, but I think I'll grab it on GOG instead, despite the fact that it's about £2 cheaper on PSN
First person games with a controller are just awful. I mean they're bearable if there's no other option (or if they're free with PS Plus), but I'll always play them on PC given the choice.
Re: PS Plus Games for August 2021 Available to Download on PS5, PS4 Now
@Logonogo oh come on, you're "significantly behind" because of time zones - the rationale is reasonable but if you disagree at least you only have to wait a few hours. It's not exactly the situation we had in the 90s when Europe got games months after they released in the US - a few hours is barely "significant" in comparison
Re: PS Plus Games for August 2021 Available to Download on PS5, PS4 Now
I didn't think it was a brilliant month. But then I didn't think last month was a brilliant month either except for Plague Tale, yet I managed to have some goofy fun with the WWE game with my two sons (9 and 11 years old). I'd never have bought that game in a million years but being subscribed to PS plus meant we at least have it a try - and while I still wouldn't go and buy it or anything it was a bit of fun.
(Plague tale was the stand out game for me last month, but I've been busy finishing off Days Gone and starting Dark Souls, so haven't got round to playing that yet)
We'll probably give the tennis and plants Vs zombies games a go this month - because while there are some fantastic games out there that I'd love to see on PS plus, many of them don't really do couch co-op so any game that does is worth a try, even if it's not one I'd be interested in buying otherwise
Re: Final Fantasy Pixel Remaster Could Come to Consoles If There's Demand, Says Square Enix
Gamers: complain that Bethesda keep re-releasing Skyrim on every new console possible
Also gamers: we want to play FF6 on PS4/PS5
(Personally I'd rather get this on PC anyway so I'm free to just play it on an old laptop if I want to rather than hogging the family PS5 to play a 27 year old game - but I get that not everyone sees things this way)
Re: PS Store Summer Sale Discounts So Many Big PS5, PS4 Games
@frankmcma strangely enough, if you use the PS App on your phone, that has all the same screenshots and trailers as the store on your PS4/PS5 does. I do find it bizarre that the web app is so bare though
Re: PS Store Summer Sale Discounts So Many Big PS5, PS4 Games
@J2theEzzo the prices are live (I bought Dark Souls at about 12:30 a.m. in the UK, and it definitely wasn't in last week's sale) it's just the deals page that isn't showing up yet
Re: PS Store Summer Sale Discounts So Many Big PS5, PS4 Games
@Loftimus GOG.com (PC game website/platform, if you're not familiar) does a very similar thing there - in that they'll sell Metro 2033 and Last Light for about £3 each when there's a sale on, and Exodus for under £20 for the Gold edition, but the "franchise bundle" is typically only reduced down to £50 or so, despite the fact that it doesn't contain anything not in the other 3 games
It's a very strange pricing strategy
Re: PS Store Summer Sale Discounts So Many Big PS5, PS4 Games
Dark Souls Remastered for £8.74, don't mind if I do
Re: The Last Video Store Is Pure PSVR Nostalgia Inspired by Blockbuster
aside from "its not really happening" there's two ways I can see this going:
1: the movies are mostly a bit rubbish and don't incur much in the way of licensing costs
2: the "game" is actually free to play - and the movies are bought/rented with microtransactions (comparable to renting a movie from Amazon or elsewhere)
possibly even both
Re: PS Store Summer Sale Brings the Heat on 21st July
hoping for a sale on Dark Souls Remastered (it's not been reduced for a few months now), as I've recently finished DS2 on PC and already bought DS3, but would rather play DS1 first
Re: Mini Review: A Plague Tale: Innocence (PS5) - Rats a Good Next-Gen Upgrade
@playstation1995
the surest way of checking is just to check your emails and see what your receipt from PSN says. If the product in the email is:
"A Plague Tale: Innocence (Full Game Trial)"
then it's definitely the trial
Yes that's right. I tried to claim it too, on the off chance that I leave it so long to play this that I'm not a Plus subscriber any more - it was when I was clicking "add to library" that I spotted the word "trial". I actually can't see it in the PS App now, but I can see it on the web app, as I'm not logged in
Re: Mini Review: A Plague Tale: Innocence (PS5) - Rats a Good Next-Gen Upgrade
@playstation1995 I dunno.. the Ps4 version has disappeared off the face of PSPrices as well (and I assume that they exclude demos from their search):
https://psprices.com/region-gb/search/?q=plague+tale&platform=PS4&content_type=
whereas the PS5 version shows up in the same search on PS5 games:
https://psprices.com/region-gb/search/?q=plague+tale&content_type=&platform=PS5
it could be that it was accidentally made free, and as a result they removed it from the store completely, but I still reckon the simple answer that you've claimed the trial version is most likely
Re: Mini Review: A Plague Tale: Innocence (PS5) - Rats a Good Next-Gen Upgrade
@PossibLeigh @playstation1995 before you both get too excited - it says "Trial" just above/below where it says "free"
I think you might actually be downloading the demo (which was always free), whereas the PS4 version with a price appears to have disappeared
Hopefully I'm wrong though and you've just bagged yourselves a free game
Re: Latest PS5 Firmware Update Is Available to Download Now
@ViolentEntity why do you want a web browser on a console?
"Do you guys not have phones" may be a rubbish argument for releasing a game in a beloved franchise on mobile only, but it's a pretty good argument for not adding a web browser on a console
I can't think of a more tedious interface for web browsing than a console controller
Re: PS Store Planet of the Discounts Sale Has Almost 500 PS5, PS4 Game Deals
@RunGMhx you need to let EA play expire, after it's expired you get the option to buy the game. I don't think Sony can do anything to remove the game from your account in the mean time, because it's an EA play license and not under their control
Re: PS Store Planet of the Discounts Sale Has Almost 500 PS5, PS4 Game Deals
@themightyant ith regards indie publishers unable to put discounts on their games - do you have examples? I know there was an article recently mentioning something to that effect, but frankly every sale Sony puts out there (with a few exceptions e.g. the "weekend sale" this last weekend, and other specific sales where they're targeting AA/AAA games specifically) there's a point about 3 or 4 pages into the sales listings where I've clearly left the land of really well known/well reputed games. I can believe that indie games struggle to get promoted on PSN - to be fair the "console war" always seems to be about who can outperform who. The store does seem to prioritise AAA games, as though it's saying "you're the proud owner of a powerful gaming console, here are some of the latest things it can do" whereas PC based storefronts only really seem bothered that you own a computer, and will suggest games you might like rather than games that it feels will utilise your hardware. Anyway - it might actually be nothing to do with that, and more to do with Sony prioritising AAA publishers because they're AAA publishers, or maybe it's just sorting by popularity and it's the PlayStation gamers themselves who are buying up the games that they feel best use the hardware/AAA publishers.
My point is that except for the fairly rare sale that only targets AAA games, there doesn't really seem to be a shortage of discounted indie games (pages and pages of them in fact, most of the time), but they're usually buried under all the more popular games.
Re: PS Store Planet of the Discounts Sale Has Almost 500 PS5, PS4 Game Deals
@XFinest_KnightX it's pretty standard for the industry as a whole to be fair. If you check GOG.com, Steam, Epic, Humble Bundle etc - there's always some kind of sale on. Some are bigger than others but there's always a new sale to replace the old sale that just finished.
This is how the world copes with the fact that "digital games are more expensive than physical games". I've never seen The Witcher 3 GOTY edition for sale for anything less than £10 retail for a physical copy, and yet it's £7 for a digital copy, what feels like every other week (it's really not every other week - my point is it's such a consistent reduction in price that you have to be mad to pay full price- £35, when there's definitely going to be another sale at some point)
Re: PS Vita Trends on Twitter as OLED Screen for New Switch Is Revealed
@Ilovecoffee you're expecting a handheld console (essentially a tablet with a controller attached) to run games at 4K and still be affordable? Aside from the fact that this is Nintendo and they'll always go for marketable gimmicks over impressive technical specifications, those are some pretty unrealistic expectations
(I do have a switch so this isn't me knocking Nintendo - it's just that ever since the Wii at least, new Nintendo consoles have always just been "the current means to play Nintendo games" rather than impressive in their own right - other than the gimmicks, e.g. the Wii's motion controls)
Re: Reaction: It's Time to Accept We Can't Predict PlayStation Anymore
@Waffles12415
People: "PlayStation doesn't do enough to promote indie games" (literally an article on this very website recently)
Also people: "why are PlayStation giving so much air time to indie games?"
Now it might be that these are actually entirely different people. I for one never bother to buy indie games for my PS5, because I'm also a PC gamer, so if I'm going to buy a game that could run on an old laptop (unfair generalisation? Maybe - but also true for most indie games) I'm going to buy the PC version so I can run it on my main gaming PC if I want to, or on a laptop of I want to. I'm not going to buy it on a platform where all I have to play it on is a ps5 - particularly because it means no one else can use the PS5 (I have 3 kids) while that game is being played
Re: Reaction: It's Time to Accept We Can't Predict PlayStation Anymore
You know who didn't have this problem though? Peter Molyneaux. Always talking about brilliant new features in his games, and that's why he's remembered today as a Mozartesque master craftsman, packing more features into his games than you can shake a stick at, and more importantly making sure you know exactly what to expect come launch day well ahead of time.
But I guess this is a Playstation site, so most of his games (and this sarcasm) passed most of this community by
Re: Random: Ratchet & Clank Recreation in Dreams Is Yet More Proof of Its Power
I've never used Dreams, but my feeling is that it probably suffers the same issue as Unity - the bar for entry is so low that the vast majority of the content is extremely low quality. There's the occasional "look what someone made in Dreams" post, just like there are plenty of perfectly good games made in Unity. It's just that there is so much rubbish about that the "made with Unity" screen is somewhat synonymous with "lower your expectations".
The main reason I'm apprehensive about Dreams though, is that it's all on Playstation. I can't imagine having a good experience making games using a playstation controller (having googled it, they don't even let you use keyboard and mouse, which is just baffling given that PS4 & PS5 support them). I can imagine bearing with it for a few tutorials and maybe making something basic (the sort of thing that would be classed as the low quality content referred to above) but I can't imagine sticking with it long enough to make something of any real quality, especially a whole game.
Certainly there are people that do stick with it beyond that - but even they seem to be mainly just producing what amounts to tech demos, not playable games of much substance.
This is what the people against Dreams going to PC seem to be missing. The argument for it being on PC isn't "give Sony stuff to PC people" - but rather the experience could be so much better that way overall, and that means people might be more likely to stick with it, which in turn means more better quality content
Of course, the argument against Dreams going to PC (other than "muh exclusives" I mean) is that PC already has Unity and Unreal Engine - both of which have free versions, and both of which I believe already allow publishing to PS4, although I've no idea how easy this is. Perhaps this is the niche Dreams could fill - develop your games on PC and then let people play them on Playstation without having to go through the process of getting them published on PS Store
Re: Greedfall PS5 Version Out Next Week Along with Big Expansion
@Rudy_Manchego how is it infuriating? There've been a few games on PS Plus where only the PS5 version was free, leaving PS4 owners unable to claim and play a game that was available for them to buy for PS4. But you're given a playable game without a free upgrade and that's infuriating?
I mean I claimed, played and loved FF7R and there's zero chance I'm paying £70 for merely quicker load times and Yuffie DLC (there are graphical improvements too but they're not exactly earth shattering - tbh with most PS5 free upgrades it seems all you're really getting is resolution + framerate + load times. Which is good but I'm a PC gamer too, so I'm used to those things simply being the result of sliders in the graphics settings/installing an SSD, not releasing a whole different version of a game). But I'm not mad at Square Enix - they're just not getting that much money for so little benefit
Re: Marvel's Avengers Dev Urges PS5 Players Not to Stream Due to IP Being Displayed on Screen
@Sinton nope, I thought that too. I assumed something had gone wrong with that block they can put on gameplay recording during "protected scenes". To be fair that's exactly the sort of thing I imagine would get publishers urging people not to stream the games, not something ridiculous like "it's actually showing your IP address on screen"
Re: Marvel's Avengers Dev Urges PS5 Players Not to Stream Due to IP Being Displayed on Screen
@naruball to be honest I wouldn't be surprised if only 3 people were subscribed to PS Now as well
Re: Game of the Show: Top 5 PS5, PS4 Games from E3 2021
surely a recount must be in order! All I've been reading on the comments thread on the other article is "Elden Ring's consumer base isn't going to be very big if they won't add an easy mode"
(seriously though guys, an easy mode in that game wouldn't offend me in the slightest and you're very free to want/ask for one, I just find the idea that it will make a huge difference in the size of the playerbase a little unlikely - and I just found it funny that Elden Ring is #1 here even though it doesn't in any way disprove your points)
Re: PlayStation Exclusive Final Fantasy VII Remake Spotted on Epic Games Store
"However, it's always been clear that there's some kind of timed exclusivity deal"
Yes it has. This article can be summarised in 5 words: "The inevitable is happening. Probably"
Re: PS5, PS4's Elden Ring Is 'Very Difficult But Can Be Handled'
@JapaneseSonic I wouldn't call that cognitive dissonance - you just have a nuanced opinion. Part of the reason I don't think "easy mode" would work well with souls games is that the whole idea of "you die lots and learn/build up skills/level up over time until you can finally take on the endgame" isn't just a gameplay mechanic, it's baked into the lore and the style of the game. Having an easy mode in a game that's otherwise constantly dropping hints/flat out telling you that you're going to die constantly seems pretty contradictory. And I don't mind "souls-like" games that have different difficulty settings, I just think it doesn't really fit well with Dark Souls/FromSoftware games in particular
Re: PS5, PS4's Elden Ring Is 'Very Difficult But Can Be Handled'
personally I wouldn't throw a big hissy fit if they decided to introduce "easy" difficulty in Dark Souls type games. The only reason I'm resitant to it is it doesn't really fit with the themes/lore of the games. I can only speak for playing Dark Souls and Bloodborne (as in, I don't know anything about Sekiro, haven't got to that yet). But the story in Dark Souls is that your character dies countless times, and there are mechanics around that (losing humanity and having to regain it - losing your souls/blood echoes but having a chance to retrieve them). Dark Souls 2 straight up tells your character that they will die lots in the video that plays at the start of the game, and NPCs refer to the fact that "you've died many times". None of this would make any sense if they introduced a mode that you could just walk through for people who didn't want to have to die
I liked Jedi: Fallen Order a lot (and actually played it before any From Software games) - the combat and gameplay mechanics in that game are very souls-like, but it's a different kind of story to Dark Souls. In the story, Cal doesn't die countless times - when the player dies, you restart from the last checkpoint and the story, canon wise, is that he made it all the way through the story in one shot - so it makes perfect sense that that game has an easy difficulty setting for players who just don't want to die that much. You don't have to keep pounding your head against a brick wall to advance, you can just turn the difficulty down (it doesn't even deny you any trophies for doing this) and move the story forward.
Dark Souls in contrast, generally, is incredibly light on story (not on lore - you just don't learn a lot of the story by passively "advancing the story" if that makes sense) but an integral part of it is that you will die an awful number of times. Also the difficulty of Souls games is often over-hyped anyway. They're difficult but a lot of the challenge isn't necessarily having/gaining skills but learning how to deal with enemies/situations/areas - as evidenced by the fact that no matter how many souls games you play, you'll always die lots at first in the next one you play - not because From keep making them harder and harder but because they like to mix things up to work against the habits you've built up in previous games.
Re: Metro Exodus PS5 Version Has Some Very Cool Sounding DualSense Support
Will I be playing Metro Exodus on PS5? Maybe if they put it on PS Plus one month
I do love the Metro games, but I have them all on PC now and frankly that's where I prefer to play FPS games anyway. Wouldn't mind playing it with haptic feedback but it's not really a deal breaker
Re: Cyberpunk 2077 Will Return to the PlayStation Store on the 21st June
@jdv95 not sure if cyberpunk will follow the same pattern but the price for The Witcher 3 is pretty consistent between GOG.com and Steam, as well as on the PS Store - I mean they're not all the same price at the same time, but all the same price when there's a sale on (£5 base game or £7 GOTY edition - we can ignore the Nintendo store, the switch version is a special case )
Cyberpunk prices seem to be pretty consistent between GOG and Steam at least, which is to say that the "on sale" price is about £39.99 (RRP £49.99 - not sure about USD)
Much as it would seem to make sense to offer it for a lower price on PS Store sure to all the issues it had at launch, I'm not sure if they'd go for that
Re: Cyberpunk 2077 Is Returning to the PlayStation Store, Supposedly
"This could be the news that we've all been waiting for"
Who exactly is "we all" in this situation? I'm pretty sure the Cyberpunk hype train has pretty much completely derailed at this point. Sure there's tons of people who already bought the game, and I'm sure there are a few others who're enthusiastic to get it but I very much doubt there are masses of people waiting for their chance to buy it on the Playstation Store
Re: Final Fantasy Pixel Remaster Isn't on PS5, PS4, And Fans Are Baffled
I might be in the minority here but I really don't understand why anyone would want this on PS4/PS5 in the first place
"Available on PC and smartphones" only tells half the story here - "would easily run on your grandma's laptop" is more accurate . Maybe my family just has too much tech (in rough "descending power order"- PS5, desktop PC, Switch, 2x work laptops, 3x personal laptops, not to mention smartphones) but I'd never consider putting these games on any of the more powerful machines listed here if they were available on all platforms - maybe the switch. But most likely I'd just stick them on one of the personal laptops - mainly so I'm not stopping anyone using the PS5 because I want to spend some time playing a game that can be played on a potato.
And that's if I was likely to buy these games at all, which I'm not. I do love FF but I have a backlog to tend to
Re: Beloved Lovecraftian Lust from Beyond Toned Down for PS4
@rjejr dark souls does have an easy mode, it's called "watch someone else do it"
Re: F1 2021 Laps Predecessors with 4K, 60fps and 1440p, 120fps Options on PS5
@MaseSco yeah if you weren't graphics card shopping that does make a lot more sense (especially at the moment) - I assume like everyone else though, you're planning for a GPU upgrade once prices become more "normal" (who knows when that will be - but at least with a PC you can just make do with what you've got for the moment)
Re: F1 2021 Laps Predecessors with 4K, 60fps and 1440p, 120fps Options on PS5
@lindos sorry, I got confused there for a second. I thought you were the same person who said they'd spent £700 on a CPU. I didn't check the name, just spotted someone had replied
Re: F1 2021 Laps Predecessors with 4K, 60fps and 1440p, 120fps Options on PS5
@lindos oh I see - did you mean £700 for the whole bundle of CPU/MB/RAM and SSD? That makes more sense, I thought you meant £700 for the 5600X chip alone - although obviously it wouldn't have been - for £700 you'd be more looking at a 5950X I'd have hoped.
But yeah, it makes sense to get bundle deals at the minute, particularly with the state of the graphics card market - component bundlers/PC builders have priority over consumers so quite often the GPUs are in stock for bundles, even if not available to buy individually
also you have to be crazy lucky to get a GPU anywhere near MSRP at the moment if you're buying it on it's own - even the retailers are charging a hefty markup due to the bitcoin boom (at least they were a month ago, haven't really been keeping a close eye). I managed to get hold of a GTX 1060 to pair with my 3300X for the "low" price of £190 back in March. It was actually a bit of a win because I ended up paying roughly MSRP (when it launched) for a couple year old card while everything else was 50% or so over MSRP - and even that was an "ex display" card, although I can't complain really. It'll run pretty much anything, just not crazy powerfully (my previous card was a GT 1030 so quite an improvement)
Re: F1 2021 Laps Predecessors with 4K, 60fps and 1440p, 120fps Options on PS5
@lindos not a dumb question - but the simple answer is there's no such thing as a 1440p TV (and now that I've said it, someone will no doubt prove me wrong )
Technically speaking no, the PS5 can't currently output 1440p. What it can do is render 1440p, and then upscale/downscale to a resolution that it can output (e.g. 1080p or 4K). Rendering is a lot more work than upscaling/downscaling, hence why the performance mode lowers the rendered resolution, to achieve 120 fps
Re: F1 2021 Laps Predecessors with 4K, 60fps and 1440p, 120fps Options on PS5
@MaseSco you spent about 60% of your budget on the CPU alone?
Based on the (possibly wrong) assumption that you wouldn't have bought a £700 CPU and stuck it in a £50 motherboard, I can only assume you're pushing a poor GTX 1650 way more frames per second than it can handle at the moment anyway (maybe even a GT 1030 if you forked out for RGB )
(kidding, I'm sure there's a reasonable explanation, just the idea of a £700 CPU in even a £1300 budget has blown my mind, unless you reused some existing parts from a previous PC)
Re: Insomniac Devs Say Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart Was Made without Crunch
if Crunch was as normal a thing as some people are making out, there wouldn't be any video games because no one would have any time to play them
Re: PS Store Double Discounts Sale Has Over 400 PS5, PS4 Deals
I could never bring myself to buy Metro Exodus ready for the PS5 upgrade for a few reasons
1 - (least important) I'm convinced it's going to be a PS Plus game at some point
2 - I prefer to play FPS games on PC anyway
3 - I have both Metro 2033 and Last Light Redux on PC, and it's just nicer having the whole collection in one place
So when Humble Bundle made Metro Exodus the main game in their Choice bundle in May, I just had to jump on it there and then
Annoyingly though I have Metro 2033 and Last LIght on GOG - also on Epic since they made them freebies but I bought & played them on GOG first, whereas I have Exodus on Steam now - so they're not truly in the same library but at least they're all on the same platform (as in PC - technically GOG, Epic and Steam are all their own "platforms" too)
If it ever does make it on to PS Plus I'll no doubt claim it anyway, just to experience the enhanced edition (my PC isn't ray tracing ready at the moment and isn't likely to be any time soon )