This is blatantly modern Fallout in space and I am okay with that. More than okay. I am looking forward to this and really hope it turns out good. That said, I likely won't get it at launch because I have a monstrous backlog (made slightly worse by not being able to resist picking up Control or Man of Medan just recently) and am trying to save money. With some exceptions, you can usually get a game for one third to one half off within four months. The pull of the new and shiny is real, but it definitely pays to be patient.
@GADG3Tx87 Yeah, given the game's ending and how heavily it was marketed as the end of Kazuma's story I can see how you might worry the series was ending, but even before Yakuza 6 came out it was known that the series would be continuing with a new protagonist.
Hell, Yakuza is Sega's biggest franchise right now, especially now its finally caught on in the west. We're gonna keep seeing Yakuza games as long as Sega keeps making money on them.
It would have been cooler to get lifetime stats for the five years since the PS4 came out like players in Europe did, but this is cool too.
Of course, this only tells half the story since I got a Switch last year and I'm sure I have spent at least as much time playing on the Switch as on the PS4.
Yeah, I really have no plans to buy into the PS5 early. I ended up kind of regretting doing so with the PS4 because I basically paid a premium to own the system during the first year or so when it had fewer and mostly worse games. I don't even care if the PS5 gets a Pro version mid-generation, I probably won't buy it since the base PS5 will be cheaper by that point, I just don't want to feel, again, that I paid extra for the privilege of owning system that wasn't even really worth owning yet.
The DS4 is already chock full of useless, battery draining, price-raising gimmicks. I really hope they don't double down on that for the next generation with a damn touch screen, but as has been pointed out these patents rarely amount to anything.
@Lekzie1 I don't know what to tell you man, based on trophy information most gamers don't even complete a game the first time, let alone go for a second playthrough. There are plenty of gamers who do go for platinums or multiple playthroughs, but you can't really judge the general habits of people who play games based on the attitudes on the relatively small percentage that hangs out on sites like this one.
For some reason I never seem to receive offers like this. I checked my account settings and the option to receive marketing emails from Sony is definitely active, so I guess I'm just "lucky".
Early screenshots for a game that's also coming to PC looking amazing is hardly proof that this game is targeting next gen hardware. I mean, there probably is a good chance it will come to PS5 along with PS4, but to say that at this point is pure speculation.
@roe Thanks to the remakes the release schedule for this series in the west has become rather hectic. It's not about to slow down either as we have remasters of the next three games in the series on the way, plus the first game to feature the new protagonist which will likely come to Japan late next year with a release in the west some time in 2020.
This is likely a precursor to Amazon dropping the 20% discount here in the states as well. If so, I'm gonna have to think extra hard about whether I'll be renewing Prime, especially with it going up to $120 next year. If you up the price and then start taking benefits away that's not a good look Amazon, not at all.
@DLB3 Yeah, I've been ordering a lot of games on Amazon since they started doing the 20% discount on pre-orders for Prime members and this is the first time I've ever not been able to pre-order something. It's not just effecting Sony first-party games though, I noticed that Red Dead Redemption 2 and Biomutant can't be pre-ordered for PS4 or Xbone. A weird thing to be sure, but apparently not just a Sony thing.
@SPGFan34 I certainly enjoyed Mafia 2 but ended up liking 3 a bit more, despite its flaws. I'm not sure I'd classify any of them as "classic" but opinions do vary.
If they want Just Cause 4 to be the best open world sandbox ever then I wish them luck in that endeavor. A good start would be if they finally realize that a sandbox doesn't become good just because it's big. When I played Just Cause 2 the novelty of being able to blow up so much stuff in such a big world carried me through. In part three I just couldn't get over the emptiness and how little there actually was to do, when you get right down to it.
The more that gets revealed about this game, the less of any clue I have on what the hell exactly it's supposed to be about. I sure am looking forward to it though!
@Paranoimia Yeah, I feel like Sony definitely gave up on the Vita too quickly. I have no idea what Sony was thinking with the overpriced proprietary memory cards, but I have no doubt it cost them a lot of potential sales. To this day, Vita cards cost three to four times the price of a micro SD card of the same size. That is absolutely ridiculous. A short-sighted cash grab that ultimately may have cost them a great deal.
@Th3solution Yeah. We can only imagine all the great Vita games we might have gotten had Sony actually stuck with it and tried to make the Vita a success rather than basically abandoning it to day when it wasn't a huge hit immediately.
@get2sammyb I definitely would have played an inFamous game on Vita. Sony tried its best to push the whole, "console games on a handheld" thing at first with the Vita, but it seems like that's not what people wanted and Sony never pulled it together enough to find another more successful strategy for the Vita. It really is a shame how quickly they abandoned it because it's a great little machine.
@LaNooch1978 Fair comparison, although in QD games your choices CAN effect the narrative, if only slightly in most cases. As far as I can tell, in Telltale Games your choices are almost completely meaningless.
Oh but also, this site gave God of War a 10, as did numerous other sites. A month after release I still haven't beaten it and my overall feelings on the game are, "Damn it's pretty, but... meh."
I already know I'm gonna like Detroit better.
Reviews can be useful, but the scores are meaningless.
@Gamer83 The problem is that a lot of websites, for whatever reason, refuse to use the full review scale, with anything below a seven only being reserved for when a game is genuinely bad. I figure this is partly due to the attitudes of gamers who lose their cool every time a site gives a AAA game they likely haven't even played yet a "low" score and the fact that industry suits have become so reliant on Metacritic as a metric of achievement that a score lower than 8 or 9 could honestly mean the difference between overworked developers getting their bonuses or not. Well, that and I think that most video game reviewers are low-paid or unpaid semi-pros for whom writing reviews is basically a hobby and it shows.
Seriously though, with some exceptions I tend to prefer sites that don't do review scores. It doesn't completely eliminate posters who didn't bother to read the review, but it does cut down on it a lot.
I definitely like the idea of the flowchart thing and it sounds like the kind of thing that any adventure game or visual novel with branching paths should have. I'm planning to just play the game straight for my first go through then use the flowchart to see how other choices play out and clean up any trophies I missed.
Seriously? You'd consider backing out of your preorder because Push Square gave it a 7/10? Never mind the fact that Sammy seems to have really liked the game, which you would know if you'd actually read the review, but that's a better score than either Heavy Rain or Beyond Two Souls got, so it seems like if you liked either of those two games you're pretty much golden.
Yeah, this sounds about how I expected, which is a good thing. I didn't get to play Heavy Rain or Beyond Two Souls until they were re-released on PS4 so I went in knowing all about how divisive these games are and also had already had Heavy Rain's big twist spoiled for me, but despite all that I ended up really enjoying them both, maybe more than I would have going in blind as my expectations were pretty low. Glad to hear that this is Quantic Dream's best game yet and I think a 7/10 is a more than fair score that reflects that Quantic Dream fans will most likely love this no matter what and everyone else will probably hate it.
I'm all for Mary Jane taking an active role in the game, though I'm not sure I like the idea of basically turning her into Lois Lane. There's already more than enough investigative reporters in the superhero world, is that really the best they could come up with?
@adf86 She briefly had spider powers during a storyline called Spider Island, where an outbreak of a genetically engineered virus caused a whole bunch of people all over Mahnattan to develop spider powers. There was also a character a while back called Jackpot who they teased as possibly being Mary Jane under the costume, though it ultimately turned out to be someone else.
After all the complaining month in and month out, I can't imagine this lineup making anyone unhappy. I already own both Ratchet and Clank and Bloodborne, but its a great get for anyone that doesn't already have them.
I never expected this to be any good and have no interest in owning it, but god forbid a reviewer should like it, eh? Here's the thing about, "objective" reviews. A review is an opinion. Judging the quality of a thing requires having an opinion on it. Reviews aren't meant to be objective. What people are actually asking for is an "unbiased" opinion and we have that here. Anyone that thinks a small, relatively obscure site like Push Square is getting paid to give games a good review had better pass along some of that good stuff they're smoking.
@carlos82 Assassin's Creed has been a very hit-and-miss franchise for me. 1, 3 and Unity I found boring. 2, Black Flag and now Origins I have found compelling. (I have yet to play Syndicate.) Black Flag was previously my favorite AssCreed game because great fun and also pirates. But Origins has superceded it. Great well-realized setting, great main character, great story and what feels to me at least like much improved gameplay and game flow.
As a final note, maybe for real this time, let me say that there are many ways history can be misrepresented that could cause potential harm. The skin color of vikings and the gender makeup of classrooms in ancient Egypt are not among them, especially if the inaccuracy is highlighted and not presented as fact
@mantralux Well that's dumb obviously, but if the inaccuracy was pointed out then dumb is all it is, though I also fail to see what harm it does, as opposed to say textbooks published in Texas designed to push a racist agenda
@mantralux Discovery Tour was designed as an educational tool. The game was designed as... a game. That said, you can certainly object to using it as an educational tool in the classroom, obviously a AAA quality simulation designed with full historical accuracy in mind would be better for those purposes, though such a thing is unlikely to be made. The Discovery Tour is supplementary material to a fictional narrative that, among other historical lessons, highlights inaccuracies within the narrative. The game itself was not designed for the classroom and as I already pointed out, presenting inaccuracies and pointing out that they are inaccuracies and why they are present also has educational value. But presenting a bunch of black Viking dummies in a museum so black people won't be offended by the lack of black Vikings in ancient scandanavia obviously does not and also is not something that would ever happen, though a black Viking in a fictional movie about Vikings might and if it did, I for one wouldn't have a problem with it. Because it's fictional, not a historical document.
@Th3solution I just find it interesting that this particular example of all the inaccuracies in Origins should create a Twitter kerfuffle, though I also value discussion and take back my previous derision, this has provided me with an opportunity to share some thoughts which I always have a good time doing and sometimes maybe someone even listens, though if not that's cool too. Sometimes getting your words out there only benefits yourself and there's value in finding order in your own jumbled opinions on a subject, I think.
As I mentioned before, historical inaccuracy is all around us in fiction and it's not often addressed all, at least within the text or even supplementary material.
@mantralux More like minutes. I've also been doing work stuff as needed and watching stuff on Netflix, but if it makes you happy to imagine I've spent the last five hours doing nothing but staring at Push Square on my screen, knock yourself out.
This is a fictional video game that has had an educational element added to it after the fact. The inaccuracies within have been pointed out. If they showed, say, Braveheart in a classroom with a commentary track pointing out the historical inaccuracies and had a reading afterwards about the actual history, would you have a problem with that? Because unlike yours, that is an accurate comparison. But that wouldn't involve, "social justice" would it, so I'm guessing not.
@RogerRoger You make a good point regarding the text, I just fail to see how it's a problem in this case. Also you'll note I edited my reply as I felt it was unnecessarily confrontational. I was hoping I could sneak in the edit before you saw it. Ah well.
@mantralux And you wouldn't have noticed it was inaccurate if they hadn't pointed out the inaccuracy, which is their duty in converting this game into an educational tool. Why do you pretend history can be re-written by a video game that, again, specifically points out that the detail is historically inaccurate, so that you can sit on some high horse of... whatever it is you think you're doing?
@RogerRoger We don't actually have a duty to preserve the worst parts of history, what we do have a duty to do is put them into a context that allows us to actually learn from them, rather than simply presenting them without commentary. Doing that is how, for example, we get idiots who think Nazi imagery is cool. Look, I can't deny that Ubisoft could have handled the explanation of this deliberate inaccuracy better, what I can't do is pretend that it's rewriting history or achieving anything negative at all. They showed things as they should have been in a fictional context then explained that it was inaccurate in an educational context. But yes, the explanation could have been better.
@Gmork___ There's plenty of room in the market for both new games and remakes and we are getting both. Anything you don't like, you're not required to buy.
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Re: Mortal Kombat 11 Ultimate's Mileena Smiles for PS5, PS4 Trailer
@Icey664 She was killed off in the last game.
Re: First Person RPG Cyberpunk 2077 Will Have First Person Cutscenes
Why would anyone care if the cutscenes are first person?
"What about sex scenes?"
Oh, right. 😂😂😂
Re: The Outer Worlds Invites You to the World of Halcyon in Latest Trailer
This is blatantly modern Fallout in space and I am okay with that. More than okay. I am looking forward to this and really hope it turns out good. That said, I likely won't get it at launch because I have a monstrous backlog (made slightly worse by not being able to resist picking up Control or Man of Medan just recently) and am trying to save money. With some exceptions, you can usually get a game for one third to one half off within four months. The pull of the new and shiny is real, but it definitely pays to be patient.
Re: Judgment Sequel on the Cards as Sales Expectations in the West Are Surpassed
@GADG3Tx87 Yeah, given the game's ending and how heavily it was marketed as the end of Kazuma's story I can see how you might worry the series was ending, but even before Yakuza 6 came out it was known that the series would be continuing with a new protagonist.
Hell, Yakuza is Sega's biggest franchise right now, especially now its finally caught on in the west. We're gonna keep seeing Yakuza games as long as Sega keeps making money on them.
Re: Dead Island 2 Development Moves to a Third Studio
Five plus years of development and two developer changes for a game that literally no one is excited for. Maybe it's a money laundering scheme?
Re: Sony's New Website Lets North American Users Check Their PlayStation Gaming Stats for 2018
It would have been cooler to get lifetime stats for the five years since the PS4 came out like players in Europe did, but this is cool too.
Of course, this only tells half the story since I got a Switch last year and I'm sure I have spent at least as much time playing on the Switch as on the PS4.
Re: Hands On: The Grand Tour Game Puts a New Spin on Episodic Gaming
This approach isn't entirely novel. Wasn't one of the Rabbids games just a bunch of episodes of the tv show with occasional minigames thrown in?
Mind you, that wasn't episodic and updated as new episodes of the companion show aired, but it's the same basic concept otherwise.
Re: Game of the Year 2018: Rebecca's Personal Picks
@munkondi
I'm not sure why people feel the need to leave comments like this. It's one person's list of personal favorites, no one's saying you have to agree.
Re: PS4 Pro Has Been a Good Example of Necessary Evolution, Says Sony
Yeah, I really have no plans to buy into the PS5 early. I ended up kind of regretting doing so with the PS4 because I basically paid a premium to own the system during the first year or so when it had fewer and mostly worse games. I don't even care if the PS5 gets a Pro version mid-generation, I probably won't buy it since the base PS5 will be cheaper by that point, I just don't want to feel, again, that I paid extra for the privilege of owning system that wasn't even really worth owning yet.
Re: Sony May Be Planning a PlayStation Controller with a Screen
The DS4 is already chock full of useless, battery draining, price-raising gimmicks. I really hope they don't double down on that for the next generation with a damn touch screen, but as has been pointed out these patents rarely amount to anything.
Re: Spider-Man PS4's Platinum Completion Rate Is Insane
@Lekzie1 I don't know what to tell you man, based on trophy information most gamers don't even complete a game the first time, let alone go for a second playthrough. There are plenty of gamers who do go for platinums or multiple playthroughs, but you can't really judge the general habits of people who play games based on the attitudes on the relatively small percentage that hangs out on sites like this one.
Re: Is This Our First Look at Red Dead Redemption 2's Dual Discs?
@ellsworth004 There is. There's also a world air guitar championship. Lotta dumb things in this world.
Re: PS Plus Subscribers Scoring Three Months of Netflix Free
For some reason I never seem to receive offers like this. I checked my account settings and the option to receive marketing emails from Sony is definitely active, so I guess I'm just "lucky".
Re: Spider-Man PS4's Platinum Completion Rate Is Insane
@Lekzie1 Yes, but it requires playing through the game twice and many people won't do that.
Re: Deals: Buy a Bunch of Dr Pepper and Get $20 PSN Credit
Was gonna go for this, but then I saw Amazon Fresh charges a delivery fee of $10. Nope. Thanks anyway.
Re: Castlevania Requiem Confirmed Exclusively for PS4, Includes Symphony of the Night and Rondo of Blood
Not sure how two old games constitutes, "an all-new console experience," but I'm down to play SotN again regardless.
Re: Gamescom 2018: Cyberpunk 2077 Gets New First-Person Screenshots, Certainly Looks Like a PS5 Game
Early screenshots for a game that's also coming to PC looking amazing is hardly proof that this game is targeting next gen hardware. I mean, there probably is a good chance it will come to PS5 along with PS4, but to say that at this point is pure speculation.
Re: Hands On: Yakuza: Kiwami 2 Could Be One of the Best Yakuza Games Yet
@roe Thanks to the remakes the release schedule for this series in the west has become rather hectic. It's not about to slow down either as we have remasters of the next three games in the series on the way, plus the first game to feature the new protagonist which will likely come to Japan late next year with a release in the west some time in 2020.
Re: Amazon UK to Stop £2 Prime Discount on Game Pre-Orders
This is likely a precursor to Amazon dropping the 20% discount here in the states as well. If so, I'm gonna have to think extra hard about whether I'll be renewing Prime, especially with it going up to $120 next year. If you up the price and then start taking benefits away that's not a good look Amazon, not at all.
Re: PSN Credit Is Inexplicably Unavailable Again at Amazon
@DLB3 Yeah, I've been ordering a lot of games on Amazon since they started doing the 20% discount on pre-orders for Prime members and this is the first time I've ever not been able to pre-order something. It's not just effecting Sony first-party games though, I noticed that Red Dead Redemption 2 and Biomutant can't be pre-ordered for PS4 or Xbone. A weird thing to be sure, but apparently not just a Sony thing.
Re: Mafia 3's Original Intro Was So Controversial It Had to Be Erased
@SPGFan34 I certainly enjoyed Mafia 2 but ended up liking 3 a bit more, despite its flaws. I'm not sure I'd classify any of them as "classic" but opinions do vary.
Re: Just Cause 4 Wants to Be the Best Open World Sandbox Ever
If they want Just Cause 4 to be the best open world sandbox ever then I wish them luck in that endeavor. A good start would be if they finally realize that a sandbox doesn't become good just because it's big. When I played Just Cause 2 the novelty of being able to blow up so much stuff in such a big world carried me through. In part three I just couldn't get over the emptiness and how little there actually was to do, when you get right down to it.
Re: E3 2018: Tetris Effect Brings a Trippy Take on a Classic to PS4, PSVR
This trailer has actually made me interested in a Tetris game, a feat I'd have thought borderline impossible.
Honestly, anyone expecting major announcements from these pre-show drops deserves their disappointment.
Re: Death Stranding Theories Get Taken to a Whole New Level
The more that gets revealed about this game, the less of any clue I have on what the hell exactly it's supposed to be about. I sure am looking forward to it though!
Re: Days Gone Dev Sony Bend Talked About Making an inFAMOUS Game for PS Vita
@Paranoimia Yeah, I feel like Sony definitely gave up on the Vita too quickly. I have no idea what Sony was thinking with the overpriced proprietary memory cards, but I have no doubt it cost them a lot of potential sales. To this day, Vita cards cost three to four times the price of a micro SD card of the same size. That is absolutely ridiculous. A short-sighted cash grab that ultimately may have cost them a great deal.
Re: Days Gone Dev Sony Bend Talked About Making an inFAMOUS Game for PS Vita
@Th3solution Yeah. We can only imagine all the great Vita games we might have gotten had Sony actually stuck with it and tried to make the Vita a success rather than basically abandoning it to day when it wasn't a huge hit immediately.
Re: Days Gone Dev Sony Bend Talked About Making an inFAMOUS Game for PS Vita
@get2sammyb I definitely would have played an inFamous game on Vita. Sony tried its best to push the whole, "console games on a handheld" thing at first with the Vita, but it seems like that's not what people wanted and Sony never pulled it together enough to find another more successful strategy for the Vita. It really is a shame how quickly they abandoned it because it's a great little machine.
Re: Review: Detroit: Become Human (PS4)
@PS4fan This is the second time you've brought up the Metacritic score. The Metacritic score doesn't matter. Metacritic is stupid.
Re: Review: Detroit: Become Human (PS4)
@LaNooch1978 Fair comparison, although in QD games your choices CAN effect the narrative, if only slightly in most cases. As far as I can tell, in Telltale Games your choices are almost completely meaningless.
Re: Review: Detroit: Become Human (PS4)
Oh but also, this site gave God of War a 10, as did numerous other sites. A month after release I still haven't beaten it and my overall feelings on the game are, "Damn it's pretty, but... meh."
I already know I'm gonna like Detroit better.
Reviews can be useful, but the scores are meaningless.
Re: Review: Detroit: Become Human (PS4)
@Gamer83 The problem is that a lot of websites, for whatever reason, refuse to use the full review scale, with anything below a seven only being reserved for when a game is genuinely bad. I figure this is partly due to the attitudes of gamers who lose their cool every time a site gives a AAA game they likely haven't even played yet a "low" score and the fact that industry suits have become so reliant on Metacritic as a metric of achievement that a score lower than 8 or 9 could honestly mean the difference between overworked developers getting their bonuses or not. Well, that and I think that most video game reviewers are low-paid or unpaid semi-pros for whom writing reviews is basically a hobby and it shows.
Seriously though, with some exceptions I tend to prefer sites that don't do review scores. It doesn't completely eliminate posters who didn't bother to read the review, but it does cut down on it a lot.
Re: Review: Detroit: Become Human (PS4)
I definitely like the idea of the flowchart thing and it sounds like the kind of thing that any adventure game or visual novel with branching paths should have. I'm planning to just play the game straight for my first go through then use the flowchart to see how other choices play out and clean up any trophies I missed.
Re: Review: Detroit: Become Human (PS4)
@RidingMower
Seriously? You'd consider backing out of your preorder because Push Square gave it a 7/10? Never mind the fact that Sammy seems to have really liked the game, which you would know if you'd actually read the review, but that's a better score than either Heavy Rain or Beyond Two Souls got, so it seems like if you liked either of those two games you're pretty much golden.
Re: Review: Detroit: Become Human (PS4)
Yeah, this sounds about how I expected, which is a good thing. I didn't get to play Heavy Rain or Beyond Two Souls until they were re-released on PS4 so I went in knowing all about how divisive these games are and also had already had Heavy Rain's big twist spoiled for me, but despite all that I ended up really enjoying them both, maybe more than I would have going in blind as my expectations were pretty low. Glad to hear that this is Quantic Dream's best game yet and I think a 7/10 is a more than fair score that reflects that Quantic Dream fans will most likely love this no matter what and everyone else will probably hate it.
Re: Yakuza 6 Survey Hints at Potential Fist of the North Star PS4 Localisation
I took the survey but I didn't see the FotNS question. Annoying as that's the only reason I took the damn thing.
Re: Mary Jane Watson Will 'Surprise a Lot of People' in Spider-Man on PS4
I'm all for Mary Jane taking an active role in the game, though I'm not sure I like the idea of basically turning her into Lois Lane. There's already more than enough investigative reporters in the superhero world, is that really the best they could come up with?
Re: Mary Jane Watson Will 'Surprise a Lot of People' in Spider-Man on PS4
@adf86 She briefly had spider powers during a storyline called Spider Island, where an outbreak of a genetically engineered virus caused a whole bunch of people all over Mahnattan to develop spider powers. There was also a character a while back called Jackpot who they teased as possibly being Mary Jane under the costume, though it ultimately turned out to be someone else.
Re: March PlayStation Plus Games Announced
After all the complaining month in and month out, I can't imagine this lineup making anyone unhappy. I already own both Ratchet and Clank and Bloodborne, but its a great get for anyone that doesn't already have them.
Re: Review: Metal Gear Survive (PS4)
@RPE83 Exactly, an "objective" game review is a dumb thing that no one should actually want. You pretty much just proved that. Point to you.
Re: Review: Metal Gear Survive (PS4)
I never expected this to be any good and have no interest in owning it, but god forbid a reviewer should like it, eh? Here's the thing about, "objective" reviews. A review is an opinion. Judging the quality of a thing requires having an opinion on it. Reviews aren't meant to be objective. What people are actually asking for is an "unbiased" opinion and we have that here. Anyone that thinks a small, relatively obscure site like Push Square is getting paid to give games a good review had better pass along some of that good stuff they're smoking.
Re: Assassin's Creed Origins Edits Classroom Scenario for Inclusivity
@carlos82 Assassin's Creed has been a very hit-and-miss franchise for me. 1, 3 and Unity I found boring. 2, Black Flag and now Origins I have found compelling. (I have yet to play Syndicate.) Black Flag was previously my favorite AssCreed game because great fun and also pirates. But Origins has superceded it. Great well-realized setting, great main character, great story and what feels to me at least like much improved gameplay and game flow.
Re: Assassin's Creed Origins Edits Classroom Scenario for Inclusivity
As a final note, maybe for real this time, let me say that there are many ways history can be misrepresented that could cause potential harm. The skin color of vikings and the gender makeup of classrooms in ancient Egypt are not among them, especially if the inaccuracy is highlighted and not presented as fact
Re: Assassin's Creed Origins Edits Classroom Scenario for Inclusivity
@mantralux Well that's dumb obviously, but if the inaccuracy was pointed out then dumb is all it is, though I also fail to see what harm it does, as opposed to say textbooks published in Texas designed to push a racist agenda
Re: Assassin's Creed Origins Edits Classroom Scenario for Inclusivity
@mantralux Discovery Tour was designed as an educational tool. The game was designed as... a game. That said, you can certainly object to using it as an educational tool in the classroom, obviously a AAA quality simulation designed with full historical accuracy in mind would be better for those purposes, though such a thing is unlikely to be made. The Discovery Tour is supplementary material to a fictional narrative that, among other historical lessons, highlights inaccuracies within the narrative. The game itself was not designed for the classroom and as I already pointed out, presenting inaccuracies and pointing out that they are inaccuracies and why they are present also has educational value. But presenting a bunch of black Viking dummies in a museum so black people won't be offended by the lack of black Vikings in ancient scandanavia obviously does not and also is not something that would ever happen, though a black Viking in a fictional movie about Vikings might and if it did, I for one wouldn't have a problem with it. Because it's fictional, not a historical document.
Re: Assassin's Creed Origins Edits Classroom Scenario for Inclusivity
@Th3solution I just find it interesting that this particular example of all the inaccuracies in Origins should create a Twitter kerfuffle, though I also value discussion and take back my previous derision, this has provided me with an opportunity to share some thoughts which I always have a good time doing and sometimes maybe someone even listens, though if not that's cool too. Sometimes getting your words out there only benefits yourself and there's value in finding order in your own jumbled opinions on a subject, I think.
As I mentioned before, historical inaccuracy is all around us in fiction and it's not often addressed all, at least within the text or even supplementary material.
Re: Assassin's Creed Origins Edits Classroom Scenario for Inclusivity
@mantralux More like minutes. I've also been doing work stuff as needed and watching stuff on Netflix, but if it makes you happy to imagine I've spent the last five hours doing nothing but staring at Push Square on my screen, knock yourself out.
This is a fictional video game that has had an educational element added to it after the fact. The inaccuracies within have been pointed out. If they showed, say, Braveheart in a classroom with a commentary track pointing out the historical inaccuracies and had a reading afterwards about the actual history, would you have a problem with that? Because unlike yours, that is an accurate comparison. But that wouldn't involve, "social justice" would it, so I'm guessing not.
Re: Assassin's Creed Origins Edits Classroom Scenario for Inclusivity
@RogerRoger You make a good point regarding the text, I just fail to see how it's a problem in this case. Also you'll note I edited my reply as I felt it was unnecessarily confrontational. I was hoping I could sneak in the edit before you saw it. Ah well.
Re: Assassin's Creed Origins Edits Classroom Scenario for Inclusivity
@mantralux And you wouldn't have noticed it was inaccurate if they hadn't pointed out the inaccuracy, which is their duty in converting this game into an educational tool. Why do you pretend history can be re-written by a video game that, again, specifically points out that the detail is historically inaccurate, so that you can sit on some high horse of... whatever it is you think you're doing?
Re: Assassin's Creed Origins Edits Classroom Scenario for Inclusivity
@RogerRoger We don't actually have a duty to preserve the worst parts of history, what we do have a duty to do is put them into a context that allows us to actually learn from them, rather than simply presenting them without commentary. Doing that is how, for example, we get idiots who think Nazi imagery is cool. Look, I can't deny that Ubisoft could have handled the explanation of this deliberate inaccuracy better, what I can't do is pretend that it's rewriting history or achieving anything negative at all. They showed things as they should have been in a fictional context then explained that it was inaccurate in an educational context. But yes, the explanation could have been better.
Re: Soapbox: Why Burnout Paradise Makes Perfect Sense as EA's First Remaster
@Gmork___ There's plenty of room in the market for both new games and remakes and we are getting both. Anything you don't like, you're not required to buy.