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Instead of combining them, maybe have the + features built-in to Now. That way you don't have to pay for both. Thus having a tiered service. I think those typically work out because not everyone wants to pay for streaming rights for ps3 and ps2 and random low quality PS4 games. Then keep PS+ intact for those who want a basic inexpensive service.

@TheFrenchiestFry Buying companies that work closely with you is growing organically. It's basically the same thing as if the company I worked for decided to hire on a contractor full time. They proved themselves and the company decided to hire them instead of contract them. That is organic.

@TheFrenchiestFry That was a few gens ago. They are widely known as a 3rd party company now. Just because they favor Microsoft (probably due to getting extra money) doesn't mean that it was similar to Sony's relationship with Insomniac or Sucker Punch. Should Sony get a pass if they bought Activision because they made Crash Bandicoot and PlayStation gets Call of Duty exclusive content? I see that as more comparable situation if it happened.

@TheFrenchiestFry You realize that most of those companies you mentioned made 2nd party exclusives. They already made games exclusively for one system or another. Sony had a proven track record with them and that is why they were purchased. Bethesda was mainly 3rd party so most of their games were on all platforms. A totally different situation.

@LongLiveManUtd They can only make so many. The companies that provide parts are also making parts for Microsoft and trying to sell their own graphics cards. Stock on everything is low. It's just the way it goes sometimes.

Pretty bad title just to get clicks probably.

I am waiting to get my shipping notification from Sony. Any idea on how long that takes? Also, I love this site but I wish they wouldn't gum up the news feed with guides.

I'm curious. The old camera wasn't USB? How did it connect to the ps4 then? I never owned one.

If it loads faster then will the loading be slowed down when playing with a PS4 player?

@nessisonett Didn't they say that the Mass Effect remasters were happening but were pushed to next year because the original Mass Effect did not match the quality of the remasters of Mass Effect 2 and 3? I don't think we need an official announcement until they are able to drop a trailer that shows the actual quality of the game and when it will be released.

@thefourfoldrot I should have been clearer. I know that it will still work in backwards compatibility mode. Same as Spiderman PS4. My reticence comes from the fact that they have a PS5 version of Spiderman and a backwards compatible version. I don't want to buy Ghosts now simply to find out later that I will.also need to buy a PS5 version to get updated textures, character models, draw distance, and more combatants (etc etc). They need to lay out the roadmap or communicate with the user base on which games are getting a paid PS5 upgrade version and which ones are getting free boost mode (like ghosts). I want to know that the free boost mode is the end all be all of the game and not just a hold over until they have a paid PS5 upgrade. Again, I know the PS4 version will always work on the PS5 in boost mode. I just want the best version and to not have to buy it twice if I don't have to. Luckily, I never bought Spiderman for this very reason. Now I can but Miles Morales with the Spiderman PS5 version and live my best life. Sony is just lacking in communication. I want them to at least try and model what CD Project Red has done with Cyberpunk. It will have a boost mode on PS5 until they have a free PS5 upgrade of various improvements. That messaging is clear and concise. I would be fine if Sony came out and said that Ghosts has a boost mode but we are also planning a paid PS5 version. This post is long winded but it's just me venting about Sony's basic lack of communication skills for this next gen.

Before I buy a first party PS4 game that I haven't already purchased I would like a clear statement that there will not be a PS5 version that I would also have to buy. This statement states that it will be backwards compatible (like 99.9% of PS4 games) with some hardware acceleration. This does not mean that there will be a free PS5 upgrade if they choose to go above and beyond the 60fps performance boost. They could still pull a Spiderman on us.

@Skuggs23 I think if you took what Microsoft is doing out of the equation then nobody would be knocking Sony's approach. I love the added PlayStation Plus library of games you get when you buy a PS5. That's a great idea. Microsoft has a remarkable value proposition right now that is hard for a lot of people to pass up. Sure they are missing exclusives but a lot of people just play Multiplatform games anyways. One of my close friends ditched the PS for a XSX because MLB the Show was going Multiplatform. That was the only thing holding him back from switching. He loves the game pass model. I don't think that model is sustainable while keeping the quality of games high. I am still in Sony's camp because I love their exclusives and i want to do VR next gen. I still think their is a market for their approach but they will lose customers this gen.

@JapaneseSonic That's why they have to build such an extreme value around their machine. They have zero launch exclusives and they haven't been able to compete in 5 years with Sony on that specific front.

I was OK with paying for remastered games between the PS/PS2/PS3 to PS4 because it wasn't possible to play those games on a PS4 and I thought a lot of those games needed extra polish to make them playable on a HD tv. I know for many PS4 games moving to a PS5 it's not as simple as moving a slider bar to upgrade the textures, AI, and other game improvements. If they want to spend the extra time and resources to add those improvements and they are significant enough then I could see them charging on a case by case basis. On paper it may make sense for them to charge but with companies like CD Projekt Red doing free upgrades for existing users it makes Sony look very cheap and consumer unfriendly. In the end you still can play all your PS4 games on the PS5 but anything above and beyond that we are at the publishers mercy. Sony needs to see how competitive Microsoft is this gen and adjust their plan before they solidify themselves as a company that nickels and dimes its customers.

A good reason to hold out for 6 months to a year to buy a new system this go around. Who am I kidding. I can't wait that long. Day 1 baby! I'll just upgrade my PC if I need to.

@Akurusu Insomniac mainly built exclusive games for one platform or another. They rarely ever built multi-platform games. This is a whole other can of worms. I am very interested to see if Microsoft will make all future titles exclusive or if it's just so that they can add the games day 1 to game pass.

@PupTwilight Absolutely false. The first Trolls made 346 million worldwide plus additional money being made afterwards in streaming and digital/physical purchases. Big budget movies can generate billions in revenue. This has not proven to be possible without the theater model. Not to mention that movies that hit theaters also make a decent amount of money on home video and streaming deals. Please educate yourself before making outlandish claims. While the Trolls World Tour was somewhat of a success story it would have fared better with theater revenue.

Don't get me wrong. I would love it if Sony actually did it but I think there will be reduced quality as that model plays out.

@phil_j I get you. I play 30 minutes of a game on Game Pass PC and if it doesn't grab me I delete it. If I would have purchased that game I would have given it a little more time to win me over. Same thing with music. Unlimited options and I jump from album to album and never give them the time they deserve. Back in the CD days I would listen to them on repeat and a lot of albums get better on 2nd and 3rd listens. I don't give stuff that chance anymore.

So I see Microsoft being a good middle to indie game platform and Sony pushing their AAA games to sell systems. Having game pass on PC makes it the perfect generation to own both a bomb ass PC and a PS5. That way you get the best of both worlds.

@Th3solution I agree. I do love the game pass model for the middle to indie type of games. I don't know how it works out for them but it seems to be the type of games that belong on that sort of platform. Then adding in older AAA games in the mix to fill some of the void. I think that model is sustainable. I don't think it's sustainable to bring all 1st party games day 1 and then for us to expect the same volume or quality of AAA titles. I like Microsoft's Game Pass. I have it on PC and it's a great value add. I just see that there is a lot to be desired from their 1st party library. I discovered my love for Forza Horizon 4 and I was surprised that I enjoyed playing through GoW 4 but outside of those series the middle ware and indies are keeping me around.

I completely agree. It wasn't good for the music or movie industry, but it was good for consumers early on. Do you really think we would get the amount of big blockbuster movies if the theaters didn't exist? No, they cannot make money just bringing blockbusters straight to streaming. That's what Sony wants to continue to do. Make big AAA single-player games and sell them for what they are worth. In the end the subscription model will affect the quality of the product and the consumer loses out to big business once more.

The racers this gen have been pretty disappointing outside of DriveClub. I recently tested out Forza Horizon 4 on Game Pass PC and it was a pretty standout title. Sony really needs to have more alternatives in this genre.

Downloaded via Game Pass on PC and this gets me excited!

@EquiinoxGII This is not a GaaS.

@oldschool1987 It can never be completely on par because the PS4 does not support backwards compatibility. EA's hands are tied. The only thing they can do is lower the cost for PS4 access.

Should be an option for waiting for PS5. I will be playing this and the LoU 2 there.

@ankehuber Another studio could technically make it because I believe it's Sony property. I wouldn't hold my breadth because the original did not sell well. It was never going to happen.

@carlos82 As far as we know this is correct. Sony hasn't fully revealed the backwards compatibility features yet. Smart Delivery is also up to the Devs/Publishers if they want to implement it.

@TooBarFoo It looks like it's weird looking specifically to enhance cooling. What about this makes it look like it will run hot?

@Arugula Yeah, I thought the hair looked plastic-y and the water looked a tad weird. Great tech demo though.

@PretendWorking Yeah, I doubt Nintendo's generations will be as long as PS4 or Xbox. Tech changes a lot faster in handhelds and I am sure they will release a new one in a two years.

@Grindagger They still have 48mil to go. The PS2 sold 158m. The way the Switch is selling it is entirely possible that it ends up besting the PS4 sales numbers.

People forget that Sony already has Xbox Game Pass in the form of Playstation Now. The argument should be if Sony should lower its price and included all first party titles at launch. I think AAA games should hit PS Now after a year and Sony should lower the cost to match Games Pass.

The problem Sony is running into is that they were first out of the gate with streaming. This means that they are supporting a library of games that can be streamed and PS4 games that can be downloaded. This is a more costly service to run on the back end compared to Xbox Game Pass. I would assume that once Microsoft launches its streaming service that it will be a separate service from Game Pass.

In summary: PS Now is a hybrid service that either needs to be split up into a PS Game Pass and a Streaming service or lower the price to match the Xbox Game Pass and increase Now's library of content. I say Sony should just lower the price and increase content and then Microsoft will need to fire back.

@jdv95 I think we are forgetting the big picture here. The internet landscape will look drastically different in 5 to 10 years. More and more people everyday have access to high tier internet and the demand is rising. I don't think streaming is meant to replace standalone consoles yet. There are still plenty of customers that will still need physical media for years to come. Take a look at the music industry. As streaming services grew and became better the market share of physical media has decreased by huge margins. It comes down to a couple factors, convenience and cost. Most people now stream music and video even though they could get a better picture or sound by other methods. It only makes sense that gaming will go down the same path.