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@Robocod Windows central. Lol. Yeah, that's not sketchy at all.

@Richnj Regardless of sales on one platform, it still has the advantage of selling more being multiplat. I'm not saying that the sales on PS4 aren't relevant. My point is that the The Wticher 3's in general, are based on more than one platform. Whatever you and others are arguing about I really don't care about, and I'll leave that for others to debate about. Good luck.

@GilbertXI They are a 1st party studio. Therefore, it's pinned on them as well. When 343 isn't getting this game out on time, then perhaps MS needs to step in to get someone in there to get things back in order.

@Richnj Witcher 3 has the advantage of being multiplatform, while Spider Man is only on PS4. So in reality, Spider-Man would have sold more if it was multiplat as well. The sales for Spider-Man was 13.2 million last updated.

@Bliquid There isn't going to be mind blowing news everyday. Lol. Some days are going to be less impressive than others. What did you honestly expect?

@Paranoimia Yep. People just seem to have it out for Sony. Of course, they're the market leader going into the new generation, so it makes sense that people are on their case. Even during the PS3 era, they seemed to get the same treatment. People don't like them I guess because of how they are able to bounce back from even the worst situations. Others hate them because of the whole SNES CD add on that took place many years ago. Some can't get over it.

@S1ayeR74 You sound very insecure.

@Matroska There will be PC gamers who say they won't buy the sequel until it's on PC. Of course, these are just the minority speaking on the internet. I'd imagine a significant number of PC gamers( who aren't crazy elitists) will buy a PS5 to play it, as well as other 1st party games. I mean there are plenty of PC gamers who own either a PS4, Xbox One, Switch or all three.

@Th3solution PC elitists are usually insecure. What else is new? Lol.

@H4ilHydra No one expects you to since you're just a consumer. However, from a business standpoint, that would be insane to do. Lol. PC isn't a competitor to neither Sony, Nintendo or Microsoft, so there's a reason they are released to PC.

@Arnna People just love to hate Sony. Or just expect them to throw all their exclusives on PC. It's obvious these people don't understand business at all. It's also hypocritical that they don't hold Nintendo to the same standard. Just because MS does it, doesn't mean everyone has to. Sony's 1st party sell practically like hotcakes, so there's no need for them to bring their titles to PC. It's also why there is no Game Pass like service from them as well.

@Johnathan1987 Well it may come as a surprise to you, but...you're only one out of millions of potential PC gamers that will certainly own a next gen console. Many PC gamers out there have a PS4 just for the exclusives, so it's quite probable than improbable. Not every PC gamer thinks the way you do.

@NalgasGordas Good luck waiting. Won't happen.

@dark_knightmare2 The minute someone has to use the term "fanboy," isn't really prepared to debate anyway. Too many sensitive individuals on the internet these days.

@Akurusu You can have a pleasant discussion while talking about other brands. What Sammy said wasn't a dig nor was it disrespecting MS' Game Pass. His point was that sales like the Last of Us 2 is the reason why Sony doesn't have any type of Game Pass. That's simply it. If anything, you bringing it up in the first place didn't exactly help, now did it? It also doesn't help to call others "fanboys" because they don't agree with you, nor pander to your expectations. If you want that, try another site that suits your needs or start your own. Plenty of options out there. All in all, you're not worth my time, so good luck with whatever path you take.

@gomersoul Sony isn't forcing anyone to buy a digital edition. It's simply an option. Relax.

@rjejr I'm an optimistic person, so can't say I agree. Regardless of when though, it's going to be a big hit.

@rjejr They have quite a large staff this time around compared to a few years ago, so 2021 does seem more likely than 2022. We'll see I guess.

@TBubs311 Such as?

I'll be laying it flat because I'm used to my consoles being as such and it's more convenient considering my setup. Definitely going for the standard as an all digital console wouldn't make sense since I have many PS4 games that are physical copies. Plus, digital tends to be more expensive anyway and you can't sell them if you wanted to.

@SanJ1 Sony doesn't have to do everything that MS does. Lol. They follow the beat of their own drum. Get over it. Rockman is spot on. The feature isn't a huge feature, nor is it really a new thing.

@SaikoWaifu2003 Yeah, I misread part of your comment. It happens. However, that's no reason to be condescending about it.

@Possessed What a joke of a comment you have. I guess that makes you a joke here. Also, if you are a PC Gamer, then why are you even bothering commenting on a PlayStation site? I'm sure you can find something better to do than trolling. Bye now.

@Octane 30 from what we know about it. Though, it's a work in progress, so that can change.

@get2sammyb I honestly don't see the big deal. Those who know about it(which are many within the PS community), are aware it's a sequel to Zero Dawn. Adding the "II" into the logo is more so for those who aren't familiar or simply new to PlayStation.

@SaikoWaifu2003 You won't be playing them for at least a few years at best. That's also if they do indeed release them onto the PC which I doubt. Unless you meant PS Now, then that's entirely different.

@SoftMandalorian They're not. The title was announced as "Horizon: Forbidden West" during the PS5 reveal. The "II" within the title is simply there to let those who aren't familiar with the previous game, that it's a sequel to Zero Dawn.

@Neolit Hard to say. I think they're going to keep it for PS5 for now as they obviously need selling points to get the ball rolling. I can see it coming to PS4 after maybe a year. It would certainly be insane to leave out 100 million of an install base.

@Neolit I don't see it happening. I believe the expansion is made only for the PS5 remaster in mind. But hey, you never know.

@AdamNovice Oh they can debate all they like, it's just not going to end in their favor is all.

@maruse I also stand by what I said. I have my opinion on what I read from you, and I don't see it changing anytime soon. Good luck.

@Blacksmith1985 If you heard, they said there is more to come before launch. They plan on having more events. I'm sure they'll talk more about the hardware in due time.

@A356852 Fanboys are always around. Especially when such events happen.

@JohnGrey From where I sit, you just sound like someone who is nearly impossible to please.

@YepYepYep Not sure why many don't like the console. I think it blends in quite well with it looking like a router. I believe most don't care for the design because they are so used to how previous hardware has looked over the years. To each their own.

@Shinobi1Kenoby From start to finish? Yeah...it's apparent you weren't going to be positive at all anyway. It's always amusing on how many just come to troll comment sections after events. Leave the console wars behind and grow up.

@Akurusu So are your comments, but I digress.

@maruse Your avatar fits you well. I also love your exaggerated responses. PS4 and Xbox One era had a number of remasters and remakes, but they make up less than 10% of their game libraries at most. Probably not even that. Get a grip.

@Cybrshrk You really must want that commission money badly.

@AhmadSumadi I think his comment is hilarious because he claims Sony 1st party will be on PC in a few years(which hasn't been proven to be Sony's plan anyway), but he's going to buy an XBSX which most games including 1st party will be on PC practically day one. I don't get the whole logic in that, but I digress.

@sanderev Most of their games(on XBSX) are going to be on PC, as well as most of their 1st party. Isn't that the reason you're not getting a PS5 anyway? Where I come from, they call that being a hypocrite. By your logic, you shouldn't buy either console. Lol. I don't see a win here that you're claiming, but I do see plenty of fallacy from what I've from within your comments.

@Jslade I'd guess around Q1 or Q2 2021.

@Lifestranding It's because it's likely being published by Sony and perhaps they also own the IP. I'd imagine if they did indeed acquire them, we'll know about it soon enough. Personally speaking, they'd be a perfect addition to the World Wide Studios family.

@Matroska If they didn't think people would notice, then they need a new marketing strategy.

@Matroska Probably by about a year I'd say. I really wish they would just stop with the timed exclusive marketing. Nothing is truly exclusive like it was back in the 6th and 7th gen. They really need a better word to use to market timed deals.

@Matroska I think they mean it's designed for the PS5 in terms of consoles, and not PC per se. So basically, PS5 and PC. Who knows how long that lasts. The term "exclusive" doesn't really mean a lot these days and is just simply a lie half of the time.

@Stragen8 You must be the life of parties.

@Envy Why's that?

@AdamNovice It'll probably have another handful to show off in a month or two. Most likely will be revealing the release date and price of both the standard and digital console during the same event.

Day One purchase. I'm thinking a 2021 release.