Might be nice if Sony adopted this policy on a wider basis, given the state of some games at release these days. Might actually encourage developers to test properly/more thoroughly before release, like they used to... and publishers to stop pushing them to rush things.
It's great that they now have the ability to patch bugs post-release, but it's also a development that is roundly and widely abused to foist unfinished products upon us.
Won't be bothering with this. I'm currently enjoying/enduring a love/hate relationship with DayZ - that's enough sado-masochism for me to deal with for now. At least in DayZ you can keep your stuff with you when you sign out.
@PegasusActual93 That's fair enough. I don't really, either. I manage a couple of hours at a time with DayZ, but wouldn't really want to add another such game to my collection until I'm done with it.
@PegasusActual93 I completely understand that feeling.
I was talked into getting DayZ just after Christmas, and initially, that was my exact reaction. It's basically all about mindset... you need to accept that you're going to die a lot.
It took some effort on my part, but I convinced myself to stick with the game, and I eventually came to accept it. I've died over and over - not always at the hands of other players, but mostly simply starving to death. But when you do manage to survive long enough to find some decent gear and meet up with friends, it becomes a very engrossing game. Granted, it might only happen one out of every ten lives, but when it happens, it's a great feeling.
I still have bouts of rage with DayZ, as there are aspects of it which are just nonsense, and way tougher than they should be, even if it is a survival game. And don't get me started on the sheer number of obvious and rampant bugs which still exist in a 7-year-old-game. But when it clicks, it's quite a feeling.
A couple of mates and I were interested in this, as we've been having a lot of fun on DayZ since Christmas.
But I watched a video on YouTube from ScaleSpeeder Gaming, where he said it's not only very buggy, but also missing much of the content present in the PC version. Add to that the apparently highly toxic community, and when I told the guys, we let out a collective sigh and decided not to bother with it.
@nomither6 Monetised or not, it's likely to be a 'no' from me. If you can disable it or just not use it, great; if not, I'll pass. I don't have the patience to faff around with mechanics like this.
I'm not a gambling man myself, but before everyone follows the social media knee-jerk outrage reaction and grabs their virtual pitchfork, let's just bear in mind that this is only going to have any relevance to you if you follow eSports.
And those that do most likely already have numerous ways they can bet on it.
If you're not one of those people, this is unlikely to have any effect on you whatsoever.
A friend has always spoken very highly of them, as he played them on 360. I've never been that into RPGs, and only played the third on PS3. Didn't rate it, and have no interest in playing the others.
Would like to see a modern setting again, and hopefully a reasonable SP campaign. As far as war-based FPS go though, I'm probably more interested in Six Days at this point in time.
Love the series... played them all multiple times, including Golden Abyss (though that's not ND-made). Platinumed them all, the first 3 on PS3 originally and then again on PS4 in the Collection. My favourite series of games in 40+ years of gaming.
@Amylian4Games @Robinsad I loved the first 4... I even originally bought a Gamecube specifically to play 4 when it released, then bought it again on PS3. But 5 just bored me, and I haven't bothered with the series since. It just sorta stopped appealing to me.
I get what you're saying, Sammy, and I agree with some of it. It could definitely be better in some areas.
But given that the store is providing so much of their revenue, does it not suggest that most people aren't having any/many problems using it and finding what they want?
The store showing you things you already own is irritating, but not unique to the PlayStation store. Search for something on Amazon, then make a purchase, and you'll still get an email a few days later showing you a selection of things matching that search and asking "were you looking for something in our ..... store?"
Meh. Made a Discord account a while back to see what all the fuss was about, and - in my personal opinion - it sucks. It's just a mess... a nightmare version of all the crappy mid-to-late 90s chat rooms combined.
Still got the account, but used it for maybe 10 minutes in total.
Further to my earlier comment... we had a similar situation with some PlayStation fans when Killzone 2 was released, especially with regard to the online side of things.
It had a slower, heavier, more realistic feel to it, where soldiers wearing lots of heavy kit moved at a realistic pace, instead of running around like headless chickens as if the gun was all they were carrying. And boy, did (some) people whine about it!
"It doesn't feel right!"
"It's too slow!"
And the one I read multiple times on the official PlayStation forums...
"Make it like Call of Duty!"
If you want something that plays like CoD, play CoD. Don't insist that everything else is a carbon copy. Some of us can't stand it, and welcome a different approach.
It's because it's not all shooty shooty pew pew, isn't it?
The gun combat is absolutely fine for what it's supposed to represent... these aren't trained military, they're normal people in a stressful, extraordinary situation - particularly in the case of Ellie, who's still a very young woman. If they were running around CoD-style and snapping out 360 no-scope's, it wouldn't really fit with the game, would it?
Seems (at least some of) the MS staff are like the CoD fanboys, where everything that doesn't "work like CoD" is somehow "wrong".
Used to love them, but haven't played one since A Crack in Time, which to be honest bored me.
At this moment in time, as pretty as it is, this isn't a must-play for me. I downloaded the PS4 're-imagining' (or whatever it was) of the original, but I've yet to play it. When I do, I'll see if it rekindles any of my past love for the games. If so, maybe I'll look at getting a PS5 before Forbidden West.
@huyi It's something I wasn't looking forward to. I had most of my stuff on a 1.5TB internal drive, and some on a 1TB external. When I got the new drive, I had to move all the stuff from the internal to the new external, and then move everything from the old external to the internal, and then from the internal to the new external.
It was a bit of a PITA, but I just resigned myself to moving a few at a time, leaving it running when I had other non-gaming stuff do. It's not ideal, but also... isn't that bad if you break it down into smaller chunks.
At least now everything is on the external, and when I do eventually get a PS5, it's just a question of unplugging from one and connecting to the other. Best done sooner rather than later, as your collection is only likely to get bigger!
@huyi The storage isn't a major issue for me. I'm sure the storage expansions will be quite pricey, but I currently have an 8TB external drive on my PS4 with about three quarters of that space available.
As I understand it, the drive will plug into a PS5 as is, allowing me to play any PS4 games from the drive, and also allowing me to shunt PS5 games to it for storage.
You'd think they'd catch as much flak for crap like this as the likes of Activision do for charging $2 for a red dot sight which was free in every previous game.
Still, no skin off my nose... was in the alpha for the first game, but never bothered buying either. If people want to waste time and/or money on this crap, that's their choice. It's just irritating because the more they're let off with this kind of rubbish, the more emboldened other devs are to pull the same crap.
I've said many times previously that I wished they'd offer a mix-n-match of movie rentals and games each month so that there's at least something of value for those who already have or simply don't want the games offered. So it would be hypocritical of me to say now that I wouldn't be happy with it.
But the whole idea seems like a strange move to me, given the fact that they're retiring the video service they already offered. It would surely have made more sense to keep the existing movie purchase/rental set-up, and just add a few 'free' rentals each month to the PS Plus service.
@get2sammyb Twitter... initially I didn't see the point of it, but signed up. And I really quite enjoyed it. Spoke to some good people with similar interests... it was all pretty friendly.
In the last (I'd say) 3-4 years, it has degenerated into a very polarised thing. Seems mostly filled with hate from people unwilling or unable to consider any point of view but their own.
I'm still using it, but much, much less than I did. No matter who you unfollow, the unsavoury stuff still seems to weasel its way in your feed from retweets or suggestions. When I use it on the web, I've even started to access it via tweetdeck.twitter.com so that I don't get Twitter's own recommendations, because even they are often filled with clickbait headlines and nauseating content.
FIFA is the last of my concerns about the whole situation.
Haven't been following the ESL story as I don't really bother with the news, but a friend told me about it a couple of days ago. I've no interest in it. From what that friend has told me, it'll start with 6 teams from England, 3 each from Spain and Italy? Hardly "European".
I think football needs to move back towards the fans, not further towards making the rich even more billions. And I say that as a fan of one of the proposed 'founding teams', Arsenal, who - given recent history - has no business being in it anyway.
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Re: Cyberpunk 2077 Dev Still in Talks with Sony Over PlayStation Store Return
Lost any interest I had in this a long time ago.
Might be nice if Sony adopted this policy on a wider basis, given the state of some games at release these days. Might actually encourage developers to test properly/more thoroughly before release, like they used to... and publishers to stop pushing them to rush things.
It's great that they now have the ability to patch bugs post-release, but it's also a development that is roundly and widely abused to foist unfinished products upon us.
Re: Dying Light 2 Livestream Planned for This Thursday
This AND Horizon Forbidden West? 😮😁
Edit: Oh... Twitch. 😑
Re: Rust Console Edition (PS4) - Ugly Survival Game Has Special Moments
Won't be bothering with this. I'm currently enjoying/enduring a love/hate relationship with DayZ - that's enough sado-masochism for me to deal with for now. At least in DayZ you can keep your stuff with you when you sign out.
Re: Rumour: PS Plus June 2021 Line-Up Leaked Ahead of Time
Pretty lousy as far as I'm concerned. No interest in Squadrons, and I haven't been interested in fighting games since the early PS2 days.
Re: Rust Console Edition Guide: How to Get Started
@PegasusActual93 That's fair enough. I don't really, either. I manage a couple of hours at a time with DayZ, but wouldn't really want to add another such game to my collection until I'm done with it.
Re: Rust Console Edition Guide: How to Get Started
@PegasusActual93 I completely understand that feeling.
I was talked into getting DayZ just after Christmas, and initially, that was my exact reaction. It's basically all about mindset... you need to accept that you're going to die a lot.
It took some effort on my part, but I convinced myself to stick with the game, and I eventually came to accept it. I've died over and over - not always at the hands of other players, but mostly simply starving to death. But when you do manage to survive long enough to find some decent gear and meet up with friends, it becomes a very engrossing game. Granted, it might only happen one out of every ten lives, but when it happens, it's a great feeling.
I still have bouts of rage with DayZ, as there are aspects of it which are just nonsense, and way tougher than they should be, even if it is a survival game. And don't get me started on the sheer number of obvious and rampant bugs which still exist in a 7-year-old-game. But when it clicks, it's quite a feeling.
Re: Rust Console Edition Guide: How to Get Started
A couple of mates and I were interested in this, as we've been having a lot of fun on DayZ since Christmas.
But I watched a video on YouTube from ScaleSpeeder Gaming, where he said it's not only very buggy, but also missing much of the content present in the PC version. Add to that the apparently highly toxic community, and when I told the guys, we let out a collective sigh and decided not to bother with it.
Re: PC Games Now Utilise PS5 DualSense Controller Features
Really is about time both DualShock 4 and DualSense had native Steam support, symbols and all.
Re: Back 4 Blood Trailer Introduces Its Characters and Infected Horde
@nomither6 Monetised or not, it's likely to be a 'no' from me. If you can disable it or just not use it, great; if not, I'll pass. I don't have the patience to faff around with mechanics like this.
Re: Back 4 Blood Trailer Introduces Its Characters and Infected Horde
@nomither6 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egKKE8dQC9M
Re: Poll: How Excited Are You for This Summer's Gaming Events?
The only thing I'd be interested in is a big reveal of something from Sony, but I doubt they have anything to show at the moment.
Re: Back 4 Blood Trailer Introduces Its Characters and Infected Horde
Lost my interest when they revealed the card system.
Re: More Outriders Content Planned, 'Poised' to Be Square Enix's Next Big IP
Tried the demo, played it all the way through, but didn't bother with the full game. The shooting felt 'off' to me.
Re: TimeSplitters Is Officially Coming Back, Developed By Reformed Free Radical Design
Got it with my PS2 when it launched, but honestly, the novelty wore off pretty quick. 🤷♂️
Re: Talking Point: Should Sony Have Its Own Controller Design Lab?
Really don't care about the colour of the controller, or the console... as long as it's not something hideous like turquoise, lime green, pink, etc.
Re: Sony Patented an eSports Betting System for PS5, PS4
I'm not a gambling man myself, but before everyone follows the social media knee-jerk outrage reaction and grabs their virtual pitchfork, let's just bear in mind that this is only going to have any relevance to you if you follow eSports.
And those that do most likely already have numerous ways they can bet on it.
If you're not one of those people, this is unlikely to have any effect on you whatsoever.
Re: When Will PS5 Exclusives Drop in Price on PS Store?
Seems some people are finally waking up to the main reason why an all-digital future isn't necessarily a good thing.
I don't yet have a PS5, but even so, I have not considered buying the digital-only console for a single second.
Re: Poll: Did You Buy Mass Effect Legendary Edition?
A friend has always spoken very highly of them, as he played them on 360. I've never been that into RPGs, and only played the third on PS3. Didn't rate it, and have no interest in playing the others.
Re: Valve Boss Gabe Newell Hints PS5, PS4 Projects Could Be Announced This Year
@Rob_230 I was interested in Back 4 Blood until the last trailer and the stupid cards.
Re: Maybe Don't Expect a Battlefield 6 Reveal This Week
Would like to see a modern setting again, and hopefully a reasonable SP campaign. As far as war-based FPS go though, I'm probably more interested in Six Days at this point in time.
Re: Uncharted 4: A Thief's End Has Been Played By Over 37 Million People
Love the series... played them all multiple times, including Golden Abyss (though that's not ND-made). Platinumed them all, the first 3 on PS3 originally and then again on PS4 in the Collection. My favourite series of games in 40+ years of gaming.
Re: Sniper Ghost Warrior Contracts 2 Delayed on PS5 Only Due to Unforeseen Issues
I played Sniper Ghost Warrior 3. I'm not sure "high standards" is a thing I'd associate with these games anyway.
Re: Epic Games Offered Sony $200 Million to Bring PS5, PS4 Exclusives to Its Store
I wonder if Sony managed to keep a collective straight face, or just let rip with the hysterics? 🤔
Re: Poll: Did You Buy Resident Evil Village?
@Amylian4Games @Robinsad I loved the first 4... I even originally bought a Gamecube specifically to play 4 when it released, then bought it again on PS3. But 5 just bored me, and I haven't bothered with the series since. It just sorta stopped appealing to me.
Re: Poll: Did You Buy Resident Evil Village?
Not interested. Was a big fan of the originals, but 5 was the last I bought, and I don't think I ever finished it.
Re: Mass Effect Legendary Edition Has Three Platinum Trophies on PS4, 130 Trophies in Total
Bought the 3rd on PS3, after hearing good things about it from a mate who played the series on 360.
Bored the arse off me, though... no interest in playing the others.
Re: Soapbox: 69% of PlayStation's Revenue Is Driven by PS Store, But the Shopping Experience Sucks
I get what you're saying, Sammy, and I agree with some of it. It could definitely be better in some areas.
But given that the store is providing so much of their revenue, does it not suggest that most people aren't having any/many problems using it and finding what they want?
The store showing you things you already own is irritating, but not unique to the PlayStation store. Search for something on Amazon, then make a purchase, and you'll still get an email a few days later showing you a selection of things matching that search and asking "were you looking for something in our ..... store?"
Re: Surprise! Cult 90s Platformer Flashback Is Getting a Sequel
@Total_Weirdo No, don't think I ever played that one.
Re: Surprise! Cult 90s Platformer Flashback Is Getting a Sequel
Interested. Had the original on my Amiga... I was 21/22 at the time.
Re: Crossplay Controversy Shifts to Sony Being Only Company to Enforce Clause
Another day, another story about Twitter being up in arms about something irrelevant.
(Not a knock at this PushSquare story, just a comment on the state of current-day Twitter.)
Re: Sony Invests in Discord, Full Integration Coming to PS5, PS4 Next Year
@thedevilsjester Maybe so. I still find it to be a mess. 🤷♂️
Re: Sony Invests in Discord, Full Integration Coming to PS5, PS4 Next Year
Meh. Made a Discord account a while back to see what all the fuss was about, and - in my personal opinion - it sucks. It's just a mess... a nightmare version of all the crappy mid-to-late 90s chat rooms combined.
Still got the account, but used it for maybe 10 minutes in total.
Re: Leaked Document Reveals Xbox's Opinion of The Last of Us 2
Further to my earlier comment... we had a similar situation with some PlayStation fans when Killzone 2 was released, especially with regard to the online side of things.
It had a slower, heavier, more realistic feel to it, where soldiers wearing lots of heavy kit moved at a realistic pace, instead of running around like headless chickens as if the gun was all they were carrying. And boy, did (some) people whine about it!
"It doesn't feel right!"
"It's too slow!"
And the one I read multiple times on the official PlayStation forums...
"Make it like Call of Duty!"
If you want something that plays like CoD, play CoD. Don't insist that everything else is a carbon copy. Some of us can't stand it, and welcome a different approach.
Re: Leaked Document Reveals Xbox's Opinion of The Last of Us 2
It's because it's not all shooty shooty pew pew, isn't it?
The gun combat is absolutely fine for what it's supposed to represent... these aren't trained military, they're normal people in a stressful, extraordinary situation - particularly in the case of Ellie, who's still a very young woman. If they were running around CoD-style and snapping out 360 no-scope's, it wouldn't really fit with the game, would it?
Seems (at least some of) the MS staff are like the CoD fanboys, where everything that doesn't "work like CoD" is somehow "wrong".
Re: Poll: Are You Happy with Your PS Plus Games for May 2021?
Not 'bad' I guess, but nothing of great interest to me.
No interest in Wreckfest or Battlefield 5 at all, but I might just pick up Stranded Deep.
Re: PSN Slowly Coming Back Online Following Widespread Outage
Heh, first I'm hearing of this. Was on Tuesday night from 8pm to 10pm UK time playing DayZ with a friend. Didn't experience any issues at all. 🤷♂️
Re: iOS 14.5 Software Update Adds PS5 Controller Support
And yet after all these years, Steam still doesn't officially support DualShock controllers, despite massive numbers of people using them.
Re: Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart Gameplay Trailer Looks Simply Sublime
Used to love them, but haven't played one since A Crack in Time, which to be honest bored me.
At this moment in time, as pretty as it is, this isn't a must-play for me. I downloaded the PS4 're-imagining' (or whatever it was) of the original, but I've yet to play it. When I do, I'll see if it rekindles any of my past love for the games. If so, maybe I'll look at getting a PS5 before Forbidden West.
Re: Sony Asking Suppliers to Increase PS5 Stock Production
@huyi It's something I wasn't looking forward to. I had most of my stuff on a 1.5TB internal drive, and some on a 1TB external. When I got the new drive, I had to move all the stuff from the internal to the new external, and then move everything from the old external to the internal, and then from the internal to the new external.
It was a bit of a PITA, but I just resigned myself to moving a few at a time, leaving it running when I had other non-gaming stuff do. It's not ideal, but also... isn't that bad if you break it down into smaller chunks.
At least now everything is on the external, and when I do eventually get a PS5, it's just a question of unplugging from one and connecting to the other. Best done sooner rather than later, as your collection is only likely to get bigger!
Re: PlayStation Home Trademark Renewal Has Fans Dreaming
I could take Home or leave it, personally.
But the Xi AR game they had in there... that was genius.
Re: Sony Asking Suppliers to Increase PS5 Stock Production
@huyi The storage isn't a major issue for me. I'm sure the storage expansions will be quite pricey, but I currently have an 8TB external drive on my PS4 with about three quarters of that space available.
As I understand it, the drive will plug into a PS5 as is, allowing me to play any PS4 games from the drive, and also allowing me to shunt PS5 games to it for storage.
Re: Poll: Will You Be Buying Returnal?
Probably, when I eventually get a PS5 and I can get it for a serious price.
Re: PS5 Fans Ponder What Sony's Soho Engine Could Be
Small Office, Home Office.
It's an accounting engine... use the power of PS5 to manage all your household bills, no need for a separate laptop/PC.
Re: Sony Partners with Veteran AAA Developers at Firewalk Studios to Create New Multiplayer Game
It's entirely my own personal point of view, but not one of the games they've name-dropped is a selling point as far as I'm concerned.
Re: Guess How Many Currencies Destiny 2's New Transmog System Adds
You'd think they'd catch as much flak for crap like this as the likes of Activision do for charging $2 for a red dot sight which was free in every previous game.
Still, no skin off my nose... was in the alpha for the first game, but never bothered buying either. If people want to waste time and/or money on this crap, that's their choice. It's just irritating because the more they're let off with this kind of rubbish, the more emboldened other devs are to pull the same crap.
Re: Poll: Is PlayStation Plus Video Pass the Right Way to Expand PS Plus?
I've said many times previously that I wished they'd offer a mix-n-match of movie rentals and games each month so that there's at least something of value for those who already have or simply don't want the games offered. So it would be hypocritical of me to say now that I wouldn't be happy with it.
But the whole idea seems like a strange move to me, given the fact that they're retiring the video service they already offered. It would surely have made more sense to keep the existing movie purchase/rental set-up, and just add a few 'free' rentals each month to the PS Plus service.
Re: Sony Asking Suppliers to Increase PS5 Stock Production
There'll need to be something I want to play before I bother.
If Horizon lands this year, I may bite. Other than that, I'm happy to wait. The unnecessary £70 price tag for games is also offputting.
Re: No, Sony Didn't Pay for Performance Parity in Resident Evil Village on PS5, PS4
@get2sammyb Twitter... initially I didn't see the point of it, but signed up. And I really quite enjoyed it. Spoke to some good people with similar interests... it was all pretty friendly.
In the last (I'd say) 3-4 years, it has degenerated into a very polarised thing. Seems mostly filled with hate from people unwilling or unable to consider any point of view but their own.
I'm still using it, but much, much less than I did. No matter who you unfollow, the unsavoury stuff still seems to weasel its way in your feed from retweets or suggestions. When I use it on the web, I've even started to access it via tweetdeck.twitter.com so that I don't get Twitter's own recommendations, because even they are often filled with clickbait headlines and nauseating content.
Re: What Would the Super League Mean for FIFA 22?
FIFA is the last of my concerns about the whole situation.
Haven't been following the ESL story as I don't really bother with the news, but a friend told me about it a couple of days ago. I've no interest in it. From what that friend has told me, it'll start with 6 teams from England, 3 each from Spain and Italy? Hardly "European".
I think football needs to move back towards the fans, not further towards making the rich even more billions. And I say that as a fan of one of the proposed 'founding teams', Arsenal, who - given recent history - has no business being in it anyway.
Re: Out Today: MLB The Show 21 Launches at Full Price on PS5, PS4
Meh. I lost interest in Rounders when I left primary school. 😁