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@Th3solution Absolutely - price drops tend to occur when they feel they have squeezed enough out of a sales to then appeal to people who are on the fence. If there aren't sales, these prices arent going down.

Actually I think MS and Sony do have an interest in stopping this. We all know that hardware, especially at launch, is often sold close to cost or at a loss. The money is in software and subscriptions.

If a console is bought by a scalper, it sits there until someone buys it. Eventually they may all go but it could be weeks - often scalpers will drop the price as demand increases. It means that al this time, that PS5 is generating no revenue. No one is buying games for it or potentially taking out PS Plus subs. Those that do buy an inflated priced item from a scalper may therefore have less money to again, invest in the eco-system.

Spider-Man miles morales and a few other titles for a PS5 review I am writing. I like it so far!

Interesting - Devolver digital currently publish Shadow Warrier so wonder what happens with them?

Yeah but nah. In the case of Demon Soul's, you could argue that yeah it is a single player AAA game, takes 30+ hours to complete, more to 100% and is a good game.

I could MAYBE accept that attitude if that was true across the board. Few games are long AAA affairs. Many AAA games have an element of microtransactions, season passes, DLC - the lot. Many have different versions at launch that give you more or less.

Then you add into the mix that publisher revenues have been on the up and up because of the above then you realise this ISN'T a case games costing more so they have to charge a bit more but that they want to cut costs and increase profit.

With every new release and hype, the decision is whether splashing out day one, knowing I am paying more is worthwhile. With TLOU2, loved the first game, didn't want it spoiled, I ordered and played day one. Ultimately, I have been lucky to have income that allows me to buy a few release day games a year. With this price rise and the fact that I paid over £120 for two launch games on PS5, I'll just wait. Sackboy looks great but is £60... we all know that in 6 months it will be half that. In a year, it will be under £20. So in my mind, the trade off doesn't work.

I also hate the cost versus time element. Technically, going to the pub with mates is far more costly by time than gaming. More so even than going to the cinema. Doesn't mean the experience isn't worthwhile.

Oh wow - so anyone can listen to my podcast and then use the gameplay to actually keep them awake during it? Sounds like what we needed.

Why is no one getting worried that it was actually a REALLY LARGE MOUSE OR RAT?

Great news for fans of single player games - a good story and polished game can still sell well!

It is also coming to Apple Arcade tomorrow I think so may give it a whirl there!

Nice review - very balanced. I think my only qualm at the moment is the HDD space - the 1TB does my just fine on my PS4 Pro but what is there is quite small. Still, as someone who typically plays one game at a time, I'll just wait till the prices come down on SSD. However, that is quite clear in the review. I am looking forward to trying the haptic controller very much!

I mean you say hidden but Odyssey was grindy as hell to encourage paying for upgrades. Good game but you know why it was sooooo huge.

@nessisonett Comment of the week!!!

@AK4tywill The games are really solid and more so when you realise they are PSP games. They crammed a lot in and yep, I liked The Order too - it had flaws but also lots of potential.

Hmm if I get a chance, will finally try and finish off Chains of Olympus on PS3 and then continue the rather excellent Creaks!

@hi_drnick Ah thank you!

Oooh does it have a new HR system?

Been pulled into Super Hot:Mind Control Delete so will finish that off and maybe some more Star Wars Squadrons. Also chop away at GOW:Chains of Olympus on PS3!

Look MS have a service to sell and you need a catalogue of games to sell that service. Anyone that didn’t think there would be an element of exclusivity with such a huge purchase is a little naive. Bethesda have recognisable brand which is why and would want them. It sucks for us PS gamers and yes it is hypocritical but big business.

I use remote play for PS4 on my phone and iPad a lot so more options are always good.

Ooooh more Hades, possibly more Chains of Olympus on PS3 and maybe start Yooka Laylee and the Impossible lair if it turns up today as saw it cheap. May also need to play Robinson: The Journey in PSVR since it is one of the few games not compatible with PS5!

@mookysam 100% this - there are some games you cannot actually search and find on the PS Vita store. I can only find them on the webstore. Such as VA-11 etc.

This is amazing. I hit level 18 last night and now... we’ll I will jump loads. Go me.

@Octane Ha ha - I feel a strange sense of pride. As in wow - I have spent 6 hours on Hades and barely gotten past the first room. I am wasting my life.

I know an ex Sony person who has seen the console this week and says that a) it is huge and b) it is quiet.

All of which I could have told you from all the news stories so not really insider information.

@Octane Yes - this is the feature I most want. I don't know why... I just find it satisfying to know I have done a 60 hour game etc.

@LiamCroft Cool - thanks. Time to suit up.

@nessisonett Please use this gif more.

I sit soley in the camp that wants more x-wing flying in VR.

@liamcroft - on the MP, can you play any of those modes with friends or is it all with randoms? Got 2 friends that want to play this together in VR with me. Time for Carlo Spicyweiner to take the to skies.

I am playing God of War Chains of Olympus on PS3 as haven’t played the PSP games yet. Will also be playing some more Hades on PC I think.

I want a meme animator to be the dlc for this game.

On the surface it is the kind of thing that publishers do all the time and arguably no one is left behind. You can play Spiderman on PS5 happily. This is a sexier edition.

The issue is really is that lots of other companies are offering it for free to entice people to buy their games in the knowledge it will work on it. So once they offer it, you look less consumer friendly.

@Rob_230 Excellent points.

For those who think this is a great thing for gamers, I'd say it isn't. Monopolization isn't great. As a track record, Microsoft have been very bad at stuffing microtransactions and live elements into their games for years. Gears 5 had a Terminator crossover to promote a film. One of their flagship franchises. A Terminator promotion. Now others are equally bad or worse, my point is that when someone controls a large segment of the output, they will control what gets made and that can kill variety. You can't look at it now and state - wow, can't wait for Elder Scrolls to come to gamepass because who knows what the next Elder Scrolls will be with MS in control.

I'd feel the same if Sony did the buying. Or Google. Or Amazon.

I have an Xbox One S and a PC and use gamepass on these however my PS4 is still my most used console of these. This is largely because of the games - I feel that Sony (along with Nintendo) have made software that I want to play and that I don't feel is predatory. Again, personal preference - the last Bethesda game I really enjoyed was Wolfenstein: The Old Blood and er... Skyrim on Switch!

I am worried what this large acquisition and gamepass will do the industry but right now, PS5 has given more more reasons to invest in their eco system.

Hmm can MS afford Bethesda games on gamepass? I mean they won't be cheap to make? Gamepass would have to be pretty huge to make way for it.

Still this is a big move for Microsoft. I would not worry for the next few years - the funding for current or soon to be released games will not be affected by the buy out BUT future games that may not have had their funding such as Elder Scrolls - well yes, they could be moved over.

Hmm I need to measure up because I have a feeling this will NOT fit on the current shelf without touching the sides. OOer

@Octane @thefourfoldroot That's what I mean - does it work with PSVR (V1) and will there be any benefit?

I have seen that they are saying they will give a free camera adapter to PSVR owners but not sure when that will be.

As for PSVR 2, very good point that it may not use a camera (which would be ace). Though don't forget the PSVR was not bundled with a camera at launch though most packs now have it.

@thefourfoldroot This is what I want to know. Will this be necessary for VR? If so, I may get one at launch but want to wait and see.

Random question @get2sammyb but will we need the pass through box for PS5 and PSVR? My limited understanding is that this would diminish image quality as it currently does with PS4 Pro and HDR?

Will echo what others have said. I will have to pay for a few launch titles but it would have to be something VERY special to me to pay £70. Games don’t cost £70 anymore they all need more dlc, mtx and other purchases. Neither will I pay for a PS5 upgrade. This is the wrong time to try and squeeze consumers. The world is suffering.

This has clearly gone throug some shuffles in direction. I was turned off as soon as they mentioned online open world experience but mayne with the new 'retirement' of so many of the creative team at Ubisoft this might have changed direction.

I think the Series S is a good idea for Microsoft but it doesn't make sense with Sony's approach. Microsoft want to get people hooked into subscriptions with Gamepass and digital games. They want as many people as possible to get subbed and play games.

Sony's strategy is to promote top end games and push the superiority of their first party output which often pushes their hardware to the extreme. If Santa Monica had to design God Of War with a less powerful machine it would affect that track record.

Whether that is the right or wrong strategy - I mean, no one knows. I think both work. Ultimately, I pre-ordered the PS5 because I am heavily into the ecoysystem and like the type of games Sony produces. That said, I am mighty tempted by the Series S with the monthly pay plan because Gamepass is good value.

I have entered and I hope I win because I like to win things and very rarely do. Also I do a great impression of Mark Cerny.

@EvilRyu2164 Cheers - I dislike Hermes as have had issues too from other companies including a courier actually going to the rear of our house, forcing open a coal bunker in the garden and leaving something there and not telling us.

Luckily, where I live SEEMS to be couriers from Amazon themselves and not had issues. At least I hope so... it is going to be pretty obvious what the package is!

I think Gamepass is a strong model but I do agree that it doesn't lend itself well to making big first party games. I kinda like event first party games are like the blockbuster movies. They just don't make as much sense on a streaming service. However, the subscription for older, indie and third party games does make sense.

Do I mind that those not adopting the PS5 can play some of the games on PS4? Of course not. Cross gen games are largely the norm - I mean I was expecting most of the launch titles to be pretty much beefed up PS4 games anyway.

But I don't like being misled or mixed messages. I don't expect to have to follow a third party commentator on Twitter to know the exact details of a launch when I have been led to believe otherwise. It hasn't annoyed me enough not to get a pre-order in but I think this is a big fumble.

I just managed to snag one on Amazon UK (I think) but this has been very tough and frustrating. The whole pre-order and PS4 backwards compat does feel disingenous.

Yeah so I can see myself not being able to get one. Only Amazon and Argos left so... fab.

@leucocyte In a lot of ways yes, but I would suggest that we are more interested game fans with a knowledge of what we do and do not like. If you are a more casual gamer or a parent, it does represent amazingly good value. You are right that it doesnt contain older games (except day one exclusives) but there are some really top quality older titles, all unlimited for under £10 a month. I'm a movie fan so still buy films but most people are happy with Netflix which has some good stuff but largely fluff really. I know a few people who have gotten an XB1 and gamepass for their kids/teens because they get to play lots of new games far cheaper than buying.

Personally they have two areas where they are potentially weakest. 1) Price (tbc) and 2) Subscription services. Xbox have a great hook with two models, one of which is very cheap and a good value service in Gamepass.

I personally predict there will be something about PS PLus or PS Now including an offer or two. Maybe.