Really looking forward to seeing how the game looks and what they might have added to the gameplay. Loved the first one. I'm wondering if the PS5 version might have extra assets on screen like Kena having a 100 of those furry little creatures on screen compared to the 20 on ps4. I'm hoping it's not just better frame rate and resolution. Hyped anyway.
Was really looking forward to this game, didn't expect that score. Just watched Skill Ups review on YouTube who I find to be a good honest gamer, and he pretty well hated it. Just looks like they tried to add to much and by stretching themselves they forgot to get the basics right, especially the sound and combat.
@Loftimus I paid £64 for it and don't regret it for a second, and I don't normally like roguelike games. The price and value of something is always subjective, nobody forces people to buy these games. I've put 30 plus hours in, lost count of how many deaths I've had and I still want to do one more run. The game is a masterpiece of gameplay and immersion. I've not had one crash or bug. I remember buying kirby on switch for my boy, £50, he beat it in 5 hours, that definitely wasn't worth the money. I don't think Sony are going to change their pricing structure at all this gen, so people against it are going to have to wait for sales this whole generation. Me personally, R&C looks amazing and has taken years to develop so my £70 is already down.
I'm hoping Starfield is good, because it will give me something to play on my series x. I think that MS bought Bethesda because they knew the initial launch years for their new consoles was very weak. They bought a lot of new studios but knew it would be years before they started to pump out games. I reckon Starfield is a lot closer than people think. And I don't blame MS keeping it exclusive. My problem with gamepass long term is the effect it has on gamers and their mindset. (And I say this as a subscriber). There is a reason 80% of RE Village sales were on ps4 and ps5, xbox players seem to look at gamepass and don't buy that many games. That's OK but for me personally, I don't get invested in the games then. If I'd have got Returnal on GP I would have played for an hour, thought bugger this and uninstalled it. But because I paid £64 for it I stuck at it. I'm now on the 3rd biome and bloody loving it. I die and just what to get straight back in and do another run. Will GP in the long term turn into quantity over quality and games becoming disposal? The years ahead will be very interesting for gaming.
@MaikonCSGarcia Halo was turned into a shooter before MS bought bungie. Look it up on the net. I remember being a PC gamer back then and really looking forward to playing it. Was in some of the pc mags at the time. MS saw how good it looked and bought it to launch their system. I remember a lot of angry pc gamers at the time.
@trev666 I reckon if the technology is as good as everything is pointing to with the power of the PS5 behind it, and Sony release some brilliant games that push the genre forward, I bet they will sell 10 million easy.
This sounds like a massive improvement over the first gen if true. Me personally I'm glad they have gone with the one cable. I've read before that they are hoping to have a wider FOV than any headset on the market. Couple that with resolutions that high, eye tracking to increase the graphical area you are looking at and haptic in the headset. Then add the new controllers with haptics and adaptive triggers it should be a great immersive experience. Wireless would either mean processors in the headset, which then why would you need their console? and the games would be limited compared to what Sony is probably aiming for. Or you go with streaming, but then you add weight with the batteries. And to reduce latency in very high demanding games you would probably need a very good WiFi 6 router which the average person wouldn't have. The whole point of VR for a console is accessibility and using all the power and tech like the SSD that's inside it. So that the average Joe just plugs one cable into his shiny PS5 and away he goes.
I just love this game. Even though it keeps kicking my arse and some runs seem so much harder than others I keep coming back for more. The combat is exhilarating, the world design and atmosphere is some of the best I've seen. The sound is amazing and it uses the dualsense brilliantly. I might never finish it but I gave it a 10 and think it was worth every penny. Oh and I must be lucky, because in over 20 hours I've not had one bug.
@Scratchy_Seal I'm in the same boat, game keeps kicking my arse but I love it. So atmospheric and plays so beautifully. Not sure if I'll ever see the end but never had so much fun dieing in a game.
As someone who has a single wired pc vr setup I'm pleased they are going that route. I'm hoping the PS5s power through that single cable will mean a very high resolution and a much better FOV. And with the haptics and adaptive triggers in the controllers I think psvr2 could be very immersive. Will be very interesting to see the sales figures by about 2025, I think Zuckerberg might have to eat his words.
Played it last night for the first time after the patch and it ran brilliantly. Such a beautiful immersive game. Got my arse kicked and still trying to figure out all the mechanics, but what housemarque have managed to do with this game is amazing. The game just bleeds quality, bigger developers could learn from these guys.
Arrived this morning, installed and patched ready for a gaming night. Not normally my sort of game but everything I've seen so far has looked quality so wanted to give it a try. Yeah the £70 (I got it for£64) price point is a hard pill to swallow, but I'm glad Sony are taking risks with games like these(contrary to what the Internet keeps telling us). And if I don't like it I can always sell it to certain online traders.
Personally as long as they don't put the price up I don't see the problem. Yeah I know most gamers out there might not be bothered but to your average mum and dad it looks like added value for the family. As for Sony's answer to gamepass, I'm sure that will come with time. But to me their best answer is to just keeping giving us great exclusive games, games you can't play anywhere else. Games that give your £450 box value.
@Nem completely agree with your post about the launch line up. The series x and s could reach their year anniversaries with the only exclusives released being the medium and a dlc for gears 5. Its got to be the worst launch of a console ever. Can you imagine the stick Sony would get if it did that? But MS use smoke and mirrors with game pass and BC and the media/ you tubers fall over themselves with how amazing they are!
Even the switch first year had BOTW, splatoon 2, Mario rabbids, Mario odyssey and a few others. Sony is on course to deliver 10 exclusives, maybe 11 with HZD2 in its first year, but the "optics" seem to be all about gamepass!
Don't get me wrong, I think Sony have and are making mistakes and they need to turn that around. But I still feel MS are behind and also still have a lot to prove. 23 or 100 studios doesn't mean anything till we see quality games.
@S1ayeR74 I don't really care if you believe me or not. I got my preorder in with argos last September looking forward to seeing what the new machine could do, looking forward to what exclusives I would be playing in 2021. What do I get? The medium? Didn't even bother downloading. Maybe I'm missing out, was too busy playing all the games ps plus kept giving me and all the 3rd party games I was buying on ps5.
I'll admit that getting outriders day one was a brilliant move by MS. But do you really think they would have paid all that money to do that if they had exclusives of there own launching? Personally I think it was a great distraction from the fact they have no new games to launch. Which is also why they big up backwards compatibility so much, because they don't have anything else.
Maybe I should have been more clear on the 1st party line. What I should have said was exclusives. Reasons to own the console. Sony's first year line up - Demon Souls, bugsnax, astro, spiderman MM, Sackboy, Destruction Allstars, Returnal, R&C, deathloop, kena and hopefully HZD2. Yeah they are of vary quality and some played on ps4 but at least there is choice.
I'm sure one day MS will start launching lots of new exclusive games onto gamepass and the value will be great. But for me it's not there at the moment.
@TrolleyProblems I'm very pleased for you and your enjoyment of the series x. I'll agree its a very powerful system. Whilst quick resume is good(when it works probably) I don't really use it as I just play one game at a time. The only real advantage it has over the ps5 is the value of gamepass. Its still massively lacking in its 1st party gaming, has no reason to justify the upgrade from a one x(which I did). I dislike the new series x controller so much (d pad is so clicky) that when I do play I use my old xbox one controllers. Whereas the dualsense is a massive improvement over the dualshock. When you play something like WR9 and you can feel the ABS kick in on the left trigger, that your engine is damaged just by the changes in the right trigger. Loose gravel hitting the bottom of the car can be felt by the haptic, and heard through the speaker. These things add so much to the game. And that's not the only game to use it really well. Then I go back to Forza H4 (my favourite driving game) and it feels just flat compared. Anyway I just enjoy playing good games, and I look forward to when xbox starts delivering on all its promises. But it still has a lot to prove.
@S1ayeR74 I have a series x sat next to my ps5. And I have been subscribed to gamepass ultimate for over a year and a half. I know exactly what it offers. Fact remains that xbox has had a terrible 1st party launch lineup, and this looks set to continue upto the end of the year until halo releases. Unless they surprise us. Whereas Sony's first year is very healthy. Gamepass is great value, especially if you like playing loads of old games with better fps. And I'm sure in the future when they start dropping games from all their studios it will get even better. But for now my series x just feels like a slightly more powerful one x with a boring controller and no innovation.
@Shygamer your not winding any one up mate. You just make yourself look very very sad. These are billion dollar companies that don't care about any of us. You shilling for one over the other is really rather funny. But hey if it makes your warm inside and your mums basement look a bit brighter, you do you.
@Shygamer I must be mate, I bought a series x day one! I have no loyalty to any piece of plastic that's sat under my TV. I just like playing great games. Will be nice when xbox start making them again!
@Shygamer you know what's anti consumer? Releasing a £450 next gen console with no new 1st party exclusive games to play on it! Having such a bare first year you have to pay loads of money to get 3rd party games day one just to give your players something to play! Yes gamepass is great value, but not for next gen gaming it isn't! I'll take Sony's new £70 games over playing the same old games with faster fps any day. And I'm sure Sony will do just fine without your money.
@blinx01 maybe I was being silly, but when I preordered my series x last September I really thought they would have games launching this year that would take advantage of it. We could amazingly get to the point of it's year anniversary in November with the only real big release being the medium! Can you imagine the flack Sony would get for that. But MS are getting away with it because of gamepass and BC. In comparison, Sony's first year line up could be the best it's ever had by November but it's being dwarfed by constant bad press (some of its own making). I reckon your right, from 2022 MS have the potential to deliver a constant stream of games. Hopefully of great quality too. I hear what your saying about the £70. It Did surprise me that were now paying $97 for new games here in the UK. I managed to preorder returnal for £64 and I'm hoping it's worth it.
@blinx01 I can send you a picture and the receipt if you like. Not that I'm bothered if you don't believe me. I bought both next gen machines hoping for great exclusives this year. To play the next great games on the best machines at launch. Hoping that MS we're going to blow me away with a showcase and release schedule. But what did I get? Oh it plays all your old games better, and hey we've bought Bethesda so have all their old games too. I love Forza Horizon 4, was hoping for something on the next one. Hoping for any new games from them really! Meanwhile I have Returnal, deathloop, R&C, kena and hopefully HZD2 to look forward too. Only game I've played on my series x this year is Desperados 3 (great game).
I think Sony really needs to work on its PR and getting the message right for this gen and less time worrying what gamepass is doing. Amazes me all the great press and even utubers falling over themselves about how brilliant MS and gamepass is and how backwards compatibility is so awesome. It completely deflects from the one issue MS has at the moment. No 1st games. Sony has some great exclusive games coming in the next few months whilst xbox has none. But that seems to not matter to a lot of the press.
@Dezzy70 strange how the PS5 was the biggest selling console in the UK in February then? That its the fastest selling console in history? Amazon uk were rumoured to have had 45k the other week. They are making and selling more than both models of xbox. What are you on about with the quality of life and manufacturing? Did you not see the tear down? Its all on one board? And yes I've had a few crashes on it and resets, but I've had that on my series x too. You get that with first gen machines.
@Shygamer I also bought a series x but its gathering dust whilst I wait for the 1st party games to launch! All it is at the moment is a backwards compatibility machine. Which I have no interest in. Wish I'd have stayed with my one x. Where as my PS5 is used everyday. I buy all the 3rd party games on it because of the dual sense. The series x controller feels like a cheap toy and lifeless after adaptive triggers and haptics. Sony have a list of exclusives launching this year and what do MS have? A generic boring looking Halo that looks like it hasnt progressed in years. Oh and your HD comparison doesn't really hold water now that developers are starting to use kraken. Control UE is 40% smaller on PS5. More and more developers will start using it. And please don't start with the t flops crap. That's just a number to please small children. These machines are a lot more than that.
@Athrum returnal has no dlc or micro transactions that we know of, or R&C so it is a valid point. And returnals sales may not be in the many millions. Yes I know that some of these companies are making big profits but the fact remains the big AAA games cost more to makeand take longer. Everything else in life has gone up during the years but games have mostly stayed the same price for over 15 years. They were going to go up eventually.
I think the game looks great, managed to preorder it for £64. Am I happy about that, no(especially as that's 90 odd dollars). But I understand that these games today cost a lot more to make than they used to. The average game when the ps3 launched in 2006 cost $60. Everyone has just got used to paying that, but it had to go up sometime. And with inflation that $60 cost to you back then would be more than 70.
Rd2 cost $370m to $540m with marketing costs. Rd1 cost $80-$100m. The average game now apparently costs between $60-$100 million just to make. The studios are bigger than ever, more staff making these games (minimum wage in 2000 £3.60, 2020 £8.91. And I'm sure these developers are on a lot more than that and scale accordingly.
The games are bigger, more detailed and take a lot more programming than ever before. (I'm not saying they're better though). That costs money.
But on the other side of the coin, they have to make sure that the quality is there, that your going to be getting value for money. That charging the extra for returnal is worth the money! We'll it be? Who knows till it comes out! I hope so. I think all these developers/studios are watching what happens with these $70 games. Will be interesting to see the sales for the game.
@SegataSanshiro I was sceptical too before I played games like WR9, FIFA, COD, sackboy and Astro. Its one of the reasons I'm excited for psvr2. Like you say, we all like different things.
@BrainHacker I'm not sure if they can, depends on the contract Sony signed. I'm pretty sure if they could launch deathloop on gamepass PC and x cloud they would be announcing it from the roof tops to add to Sony's PR nightmare they're having at the moment.
@SegataSanshiro I hear what your saying, and I agree it's good that we all like different things. Dualsense is now my favourite controller of all time and the immersion it adds to games is why I buy all the 3rd party games that use it on my PS5. I'm probably just regretting getting the series x and wish I had stayed with my one x for now as it just doesn't add much when your actually playing the games. Whereas the ps5 does. But I'm sure in the coming years if they get the quality vs quantity right that will change and Sony will have some very stiff competition. Which at the end of the day we all want because we should all benefit.
@SegataSanshiro though I do agree with you that gamepass is a good deal, I wouldn't go as far as saying it's an amazing deal. It could be in the future if/when they release brilliant 1st party games from all their studios(and don't raise the price too high) but at the moment for me it's a bit flat. I'm lucky enough to have a series x sat next to a PS5, but it only really gets turned on when my kids want to play minecraft or TABS. I did enjoy desperados 3 on the service but most of the others I've either played or have no interest in(outriders demo was crap). I have no interest in 360 games, I bought next gen consoles to play next gen games. And I think a lot of the big gamepass PR talk lately is to distract from the fact they have no 1st party games launching anytime soon. They wouldn't have paid for outriders if they did. It's funny that MS is making all these headlines when Sony have 3 big next gen console exclusives launching in the next 3 months. Sony's PR team need firing. But I do agree that gamepass is better than psnow at the moment, but PSPlus has kept me entertained for the last 3 months. And on a side note, for me personally playing on the series x controller(MS's biggest mistake) after using the dualsense just feels lifeless.
@everynowandben well I hope you are right. Time will tell eh, if MS keeps to the same number of studios it has now and just tries to deliver great games on its service then it will be great competition for Sony and Nintendo. But if in the next few years they start buying up even more studios and developers and take their games away from the other two then it becomes a problem.
@Oscarjpc strange, my 2 controllers that have hundreds of hours of usage are still working perfectly well 4 months later. There are probably 10 to 20 million dualsenses in the wild, it's expected that several thousand would have problems. Nobody apart from Sony know the true numbers.
@Ken_Kaniff I agree that MS are trying to take over the market, and they have the deep pockets to do it. It concerns me what the gaming space we obviously all love will look like in the years to come if they do. But on the exclusives front, MS have still yet to deliver great 1st party games of the quality that Sony does. They have bought all these studios but they to show that they can deliver. It will be very interesting to see the quantity vs quality that gamepass will have to juggle in the years ahead. Yes I agree that Sony do need to make some moves that show they are listening. But id rather have Sony's studios than microsofts.
@everynowandben your assuming that there will be competition left to go to. I think it's obvious that MS are in this for the long game, they have deep pockets and haven't stopped spending yet by all accounts. Healthy competition is great, heck I have an xbox sat next to my ps5 so I want them to compete. But what happens if they buy ubisoft next and take all those games away. Then go after another big developer like Activision? Competition then becomes a monopoly which Sony couldn't compete with, then gaming would change completely. And not in a good way.
@Ken_Kaniff I'm one of the unwise ones then, because I love my PS5 and the difference between the dualsense and the dual shock is night and day. I would never go back to my Pro now. Yeah GPU is great value but I hardly turn my series x on (thought outriders was crap) because all its good for at the mo is backwards compatibility. Yes I'm sure in the years to come MS will start dropping big new games on it, but in the mean time I'll be enjoying returnal, deathloop and R&C in the next 3 months.
Loved this game when I first played it. Its easily a 9 out of 10 for me. Interesting story, fun gameplay and a great lead character. And the hordes are some of the best gaming I've experienced. First time you wipe one out is a great feeling. I part exchanged it a while ago, so happy to get it next week and I'll probably play through it again on my PS5.
Another great month for me, and I've played and beaten Days gone ages OK. Pleased for people who haven't played it yet, such a good game. And we're getting a brand new PS5 game day one, it's not something I would have bought but I'm going to give it a try. The last 3 months have been tremendous value, so much so that my xbox has hardly been turned on.
Really looking forward to playing this. Seems like they have tried to be very creative with this game and give the player a unique experience. Whether or not its worth the money will always come down to the individual, me personally, I will get it day one.
@blinx01 I'd be really surprised (and happy) if psvr2 is below 350 to be honest. They are on about higher resolutions and bigger fov, plus all the other tech(eye tracking) they might to add. Can't see that being cheap.
Really excited to try these out, I love the dualsense so think they will add a lot to the games. I have a PC setup with this type of tracking and for the most part it's great. My one concern would be what type of batteries they go for, internal or AA. Because my PC controllers that are AA, eat through them really quickly and they don't have half the tech of these controllers.
Really generous, never played the HZD dlc so looking forward to that. Going to claim all the vr games and hope psvr2 will be backwards compatible, as I intend to get it when it releases.
@Hypnotoad107 I agree that gamepass is brilliant value for money (at the moment) and gives you choice, I subscribe myself. But what @Exlee300p and @BadPlayerOne are maybe saying is that in the long run it could hurt gaming if MS continue on their current course unchecked. MS had a NET income of 42billion last year, they are a trillion dollar company. Yes Sony have bought developers before but not on the scale or consequence of the Bethesda deal. Imagine if MS buy ubisoft and take 2 next. What if they went mental and bought EA and took all the sports games, battlefield games away from Sony players. The casual gamers (which are the majority) would steer massively to the green side. And you say that streaming TV is the future and the content is better, but that has a lot of competition, Netflix, Amazon, Disney, Sky in my country and many others. If MS got too big, had all the biggest games who would keep them honest? My bet would be prices go up and quality would go down. But hey, hopefully regulation would stop them getting a monopoly and destroying the thing we all love, gaming.
@Fenbops it's a small subscription fee now, but If MS keep going the way they are and corner most of the market then how long do you think it will stay like that? If they buy even more studios and developers! I bet in the years to come that small fee could end up £30 a month or more. And I say this as gamepass subscriber. Healthy competition is good, a monopoly would ruin gaming.
Thought the demo was OK but not up to something of the division 2's quality. Way too many cut scenes for me. Was thinking of getting it when it goes on sale cheap. MS are certainly throwing their money around at the mo. In one way I think it's good because it gives Sony some very strong competition, which hopefully we as PlayStation owners benefit from with better services(I think psplus shows the effects already). But I do wonder what MS's end game is, how far they are willing to spend. They keep buying more studios, more games for gamepass, effectively try and kill the competition. Then when they have the market they can charge what they like for gamepass and if you want to play most of the games you'll have to pay it.
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Re: Horizon Forbidden West PS5 Gameplay Reveal This Thursday in New State of Play Livestream
Really looking forward to seeing how the game looks and what they might have added to the gameplay. Loved the first one. I'm wondering if the PS5 version might have extra assets on screen like Kena having a 100 of those furry little creatures on screen compared to the 20 on ps4. I'm hoping it's not just better frame rate and resolution. Hyped anyway.
Re: Biomutant (PS4) - The Classic Case of What Could Have Been
Was really looking forward to this game, didn't expect that score. Just watched Skill Ups review on YouTube who I find to be a good honest gamer, and he pretty well hated it. Just looks like they tried to add to much and by stretching themselves they forgot to get the basics right, especially the sound and combat.
Re: Returnal Team Out to Prove It's More Than Just the 'Resogun Studio'
@Loftimus I paid £64 for it and don't regret it for a second, and I don't normally like roguelike games. The price and value of something is always subjective, nobody forces people to buy these games. I've put 30 plus hours in, lost count of how many deaths I've had and I still want to do one more run. The game is a masterpiece of gameplay and immersion. I've not had one crash or bug. I remember buying kirby on switch for my boy, £50, he beat it in 5 hours, that definitely wasn't worth the money. I don't think Sony are going to change their pricing structure at all this gen, so people against it are going to have to wait for sales this whole generation. Me personally, R&C looks amazing and has taken years to develop so my £70 is already down.
Re: Don't Hold Your Breath for Bethesda's Starfield on PS5, PS4
I'm hoping Starfield is good, because it will give me something to play on my series x. I think that MS bought Bethesda because they knew the initial launch years for their new consoles was very weak. They bought a lot of new studios but knew it would be years before they started to pump out games. I reckon Starfield is a lot closer than people think. And I don't blame MS keeping it exclusive.
My problem with gamepass long term is the effect it has on gamers and their mindset. (And I say this as a subscriber). There is a reason 80% of RE Village sales were on ps4 and ps5, xbox players seem to look at gamepass and don't buy that many games. That's OK but for me personally, I don't get invested in the games then. If I'd have got Returnal on GP I would have played for an hour, thought bugger this and uninstalled it. But because I paid £64 for it I stuck at it. I'm now on the 3rd biome and bloody loving it. I die and just what to get straight back in and do another run.
Will GP in the long term turn into quantity over quality and games becoming disposal? The years ahead will be very interesting for gaming.
Re: Don't Hold Your Breath for Bethesda's Starfield on PS5, PS4
@MaikonCSGarcia Halo was turned into a shooter before MS bought bungie. Look it up on the net. I remember being a PC gamer back then and really looking forward to playing it. Was in some of the pc mags at the time. MS saw how good it looked and bought it to launch their system. I remember a lot of angry pc gamers at the time.
Re: Soapbox: I'm Beyond Excited for PS5's Next-Gen PSVR
@trev666 I reckon if the technology is as good as everything is pointing to with the power of the PS5 behind it, and Sony release some brilliant games that push the genre forward, I bet they will sell 10 million easy.
Re: Next-Gen PSVR for PS5 Sounds Mind Blowing
This sounds like a massive improvement over the first gen if true. Me personally I'm glad they have gone with the one cable. I've read before that they are hoping to have a wider FOV than any headset on the market. Couple that with resolutions that high, eye tracking to increase the graphical area you are looking at and haptic in the headset. Then add the new controllers with haptics and adaptive triggers it should be a great immersive experience.
Wireless would either mean processors in the headset, which then why would you need their console? and the games would be limited compared to what Sony is probably aiming for. Or you go with streaming, but then you add weight with the batteries. And to reduce latency in very high demanding games you would probably need a very good WiFi 6 router which the average person wouldn't have. The whole point of VR for a console is accessibility and using all the power and tech like the SSD that's inside it. So that the average Joe just plugs one cable into his shiny PS5 and away he goes.
Re: Poll: What Review Score Would You Give Returnal?
I just love this game. Even though it keeps kicking my arse and some runs seem so much harder than others I keep coming back for more. The combat is exhilarating, the world design and atmosphere is some of the best I've seen. The sound is amazing and it uses the dualsense brilliantly. I might never finish it but I gave it a 10 and think it was worth every penny. Oh and I must be lucky, because in over 20 hours I've not had one bug.
Re: Housemarque Acknowledges Request for Mid-Run Saves in Returnal
@Scratchy_Seal I'm in the same boat, game keeps kicking my arse but I love it. So atmospheric and plays so beautifully. Not sure if I'll ever see the end but never had so much fun dieing in a game.
Re: Facebook Founder Mark Zuckerberg Doesn't Think People Will Buy Wired VR
As someone who has a single wired pc vr setup I'm pleased they are going that route. I'm hoping the PS5s power through that single cable will mean a very high resolution and a much better FOV. And with the haptics and adaptive triggers in the controllers I think psvr2 could be very immersive. Will be very interesting to see the sales figures by about 2025, I think Zuckerberg might have to eat his words.
Re: Returnal's Day One Patch Is 10GB, Improves Performance, Fixes Bugs, and More
Played it last night for the first time after the patch and it ran brilliantly. Such a beautiful immersive game. Got my arse kicked and still trying to figure out all the mechanics, but what housemarque have managed to do with this game is amazing. The game just bleeds quality, bigger developers could learn from these guys.
Re: Returnal (PS5) - Housemarque's Deep, Dark Shooter Is a PS5 Must Have
Arrived this morning, installed and patched ready for a gaming night. Not normally my sort of game but everything I've seen so far has looked quality so wanted to give it a try. Yeah the £70 (I got it for£64) price point is a hard pill to swallow, but I'm glad Sony are taking risks with games like these(contrary to what the Internet keeps telling us). And if I don't like it I can always sell it to certain online traders.
Re: PS Plus Video Pass Trailer Showcases Perk for Polish Members
Personally as long as they don't put the price up I don't see the problem. Yeah I know most gamers out there might not be bothered but to your average mum and dad it looks like added value for the family. As for Sony's answer to gamepass, I'm sure that will come with time. But to me their best answer is to just keeping giving us great exclusive games, games you can't play anywhere else. Games that give your £450 box value.
Re: Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart Gameplay Trailer Looks Simply Sublime
This looks incredible, can't wait to play it. Sony may have their faults but they certainly deliver high quality games.
Re: Poll: Is PlayStation Losing Ground to Xbox?
@Nem completely agree with your post about the launch line up. The series x and s could reach their year anniversaries with the only exclusives released being the medium and a dlc for gears 5. Its got to be the worst launch of a console ever. Can you imagine the stick Sony would get if it did that? But MS use smoke and mirrors with game pass and BC and the media/ you tubers fall over themselves with how amazing they are!
Even the switch first year had BOTW, splatoon 2, Mario rabbids, Mario odyssey and a few others. Sony is on course to deliver 10 exclusives, maybe 11 with HZD2 in its first year, but the "optics" seem to be all about gamepass!
Don't get me wrong, I think Sony have and are making mistakes and they need to turn that around. But I still feel MS are behind and also still have a lot to prove. 23 or 100 studios doesn't mean anything till we see quality games.
Re: Poll: Is PlayStation Losing Ground to Xbox?
@S1ayeR74 we might not agree on much but I agree 100% on druckman. I'll never play one of his games again.
Re: Poll: Is PlayStation Losing Ground to Xbox?
@S1ayeR74 I don't really care if you believe me or not. I got my preorder in with argos last September looking forward to seeing what the new machine could do, looking forward to what exclusives I would be playing in 2021. What do I get? The medium? Didn't even bother downloading. Maybe I'm missing out, was too busy playing all the games ps plus kept giving me and all the 3rd party games I was buying on ps5.
I'll admit that getting outriders day one was a brilliant move by MS. But do you really think they would have paid all that money to do that if they had exclusives of there own launching? Personally I think it was a great distraction from the fact they have no new games to launch. Which is also why they big up backwards compatibility so much, because they don't have anything else.
Maybe I should have been more clear on the 1st party line. What I should have said was exclusives. Reasons to own the console. Sony's first year line up - Demon Souls, bugsnax, astro, spiderman MM, Sackboy, Destruction Allstars, Returnal, R&C, deathloop, kena and hopefully HZD2. Yeah they are of vary quality and some played on ps4 but at least there is choice.
I'm sure one day MS will start launching lots of new exclusive games onto gamepass and the value will be great. But for me it's not there at the moment.
Re: Poll: Is PlayStation Losing Ground to Xbox?
@TrolleyProblems I'm very pleased for you and your enjoyment of the series x. I'll agree its a very powerful system. Whilst quick resume is good(when it works probably) I don't really use it as I just play one game at a time.
The only real advantage it has over the ps5 is the value of gamepass. Its still massively lacking in its 1st party gaming, has no reason to justify the upgrade from a one x(which I did).
I dislike the new series x controller so much (d pad is so clicky) that when I do play I use my old xbox one controllers. Whereas the dualsense is a massive improvement over the dualshock. When you play something like WR9 and you can feel the ABS kick in on the left trigger, that your engine is damaged just by the changes in the right trigger. Loose gravel hitting the bottom of the car can be felt by the haptic, and heard through the speaker. These things add so much to the game. And that's not the only game to use it really well. Then I go back to Forza H4 (my favourite driving game) and it feels just flat compared.
Anyway I just enjoy playing good games, and I look forward to when xbox starts delivering on all its promises. But it still has a lot to prove.
Re: Poll: Is PlayStation Losing Ground to Xbox?
@S1ayeR74 I have a series x sat next to my ps5. And I have been subscribed to gamepass ultimate for over a year and a half. I know exactly what it offers. Fact remains that xbox has had a terrible 1st party launch lineup, and this looks set to continue upto the end of the year until halo releases. Unless they surprise us. Whereas Sony's first year is very healthy.
Gamepass is great value, especially if you like playing loads of old games with better fps. And I'm sure in the future when they start dropping games from all their studios it will get even better.
But for now my series x just feels like a slightly more powerful one x with a boring controller and no innovation.
Re: Poll: Is PlayStation Losing Ground to Xbox?
@Shygamer your not winding any one up mate. You just make yourself look very very sad. These are billion dollar companies that don't care about any of us. You shilling for one over the other is really rather funny.
But hey if it makes your warm inside and your mums basement look a bit brighter, you do you.
Re: Poll: Is PlayStation Losing Ground to Xbox?
@Shygamer I must be mate, I bought a series x day one! I have no loyalty to any piece of plastic that's sat under my TV. I just like playing great games. Will be nice when xbox start making them again!
Re: Poll: Is PlayStation Losing Ground to Xbox?
@Shygamer you know what's anti consumer? Releasing a £450 next gen console with no new 1st party exclusive games to play on it! Having such a bare first year you have to pay loads of money to get 3rd party games day one just to give your players something to play!
Yes gamepass is great value, but not for next gen gaming it isn't!
I'll take Sony's new £70 games over playing the same old games with faster fps any day.
And I'm sure Sony will do just fine without your money.
Re: Poll: Is PlayStation Losing Ground to Xbox?
@blinx01 maybe I was being silly, but when I preordered my series x last September I really thought they would have games launching this year that would take advantage of it. We could amazingly get to the point of it's year anniversary in November with the only real big release being the medium! Can you imagine the flack Sony would get for that. But MS are getting away with it because of gamepass and BC.
In comparison, Sony's first year line up could be the best it's ever had by November but it's being dwarfed by constant bad press (some of its own making).
I reckon your right, from 2022 MS have the potential to deliver a constant stream of games. Hopefully of great quality too.
I hear what your saying about the £70. It Did surprise me that were now paying $97 for new games here in the UK. I managed to preorder returnal for £64 and I'm hoping it's worth it.
Re: Poll: Is PlayStation Losing Ground to Xbox?
@blinx01 I can send you a picture and the receipt if you like. Not that I'm bothered if you don't believe me. I bought both next gen machines hoping for great exclusives this year. To play the next great games on the best machines at launch. Hoping that MS we're going to blow me away with a showcase and release schedule. But what did I get? Oh it plays all your old games better, and hey we've bought Bethesda so have all their old games too. I love Forza Horizon 4, was hoping for something on the next one. Hoping for any new games from them really!
Meanwhile I have Returnal, deathloop, R&C, kena and hopefully HZD2 to look forward too.
Only game I've played on my series x this year is Desperados 3 (great game).
Re: Poll: Is PlayStation Losing Ground to Xbox?
I think Sony really needs to work on its PR and getting the message right for this gen and less time worrying what gamepass is doing.
Amazes me all the great press and even utubers falling over themselves about how brilliant MS and gamepass is and how backwards compatibility is so awesome. It completely deflects from the one issue MS has at the moment. No 1st games.
Sony has some great exclusive games coming in the next few months whilst xbox has none. But that seems to not matter to a lot of the press.
Re: Poll: Is PlayStation Losing Ground to Xbox?
@Dezzy70 strange how the PS5 was the biggest selling console in the UK in February then? That its the fastest selling console in history? Amazon uk were rumoured to have had 45k the other week. They are making and selling more than both models of xbox.
What are you on about with the quality of life and manufacturing? Did you not see the tear down? Its all on one board? And yes I've had a few crashes on it and resets, but I've had that on my series x too. You get that with first gen machines.
Re: Poll: Is PlayStation Losing Ground to Xbox?
@Shygamer I also bought a series x but its gathering dust whilst I wait for the 1st party games to launch! All it is at the moment is a backwards compatibility machine. Which I have no interest in. Wish I'd have stayed with my one x. Where as my PS5 is used everyday. I buy all the 3rd party games on it because of the dual sense. The series x controller feels like a cheap toy and lifeless after adaptive triggers and haptics.
Sony have a list of exclusives launching this year and what do MS have? A generic boring looking Halo that looks like it hasnt progressed in years.
Oh and your HD comparison doesn't really hold water now that developers are starting to use kraken. Control UE is 40% smaller on PS5. More and more developers will start using it.
And please don't start with the t flops crap. That's just a number to please small children. These machines are a lot more than that.
Re: PS5 Exclusive Survival Game Abandoned Borders on Photorealism
Yeah that voice over was awful, but those were some seriously good looking visuals. Looking forward to seeing some actual decent gameplay footage.
Re: Returnal Gets New PS5 Gameplay Footage in Another Housemarque Dev Diary
@Athrum returnal has no dlc or micro transactions that we know of, or R&C so it is a valid point. And returnals sales may not be in the many millions.
Yes I know that some of these companies are making big profits but the fact remains the big AAA games cost more to makeand take longer.
Everything else in life has gone up during the years but games have mostly stayed the same price for over 15 years. They were going to go up eventually.
Re: Returnal Gets New PS5 Gameplay Footage in Another Housemarque Dev Diary
I think the game looks great, managed to preorder it for £64. Am I happy about that, no(especially as that's 90 odd dollars). But I understand that these games today cost a lot more to make than they used to.
The average game when the ps3 launched in 2006 cost $60. Everyone has just got used to paying that, but it had to go up sometime. And with inflation that $60 cost to you back then would be more than 70.
Rd2 cost $370m to $540m with marketing costs. Rd1 cost $80-$100m.
The average game now apparently costs between $60-$100 million just to make.
The studios are bigger than ever, more staff making these games (minimum wage in 2000 £3.60, 2020 £8.91. And I'm sure these developers are on a lot more than that and scale accordingly.
The games are bigger, more detailed and take a lot more programming than ever before. (I'm not saying they're better though). That costs money.
But on the other side of the coin, they have to make sure that the quality is there, that your going to be getting value for money. That charging the extra for returnal is worth the money! We'll it be? Who knows till it comes out! I hope so. I think all these developers/studios are watching what happens with these $70 games. Will be interesting to see the sales for the game.
Re: PS Now April 2021 Update Includes Marvel's Avengers and Borderlands 3
@BrainHacker will be interesting to see what happens. We'll know in just over a month what the state of play is with deathloop.
Re: PS Now April 2021 Update Includes Marvel's Avengers and Borderlands 3
@SegataSanshiro I was sceptical too before I played games like WR9, FIFA, COD, sackboy and Astro. Its one of the reasons I'm excited for psvr2. Like you say, we all like different things.
Re: PS Now April 2021 Update Includes Marvel's Avengers and Borderlands 3
@BrainHacker I'm not sure if they can, depends on the contract Sony signed. I'm pretty sure if they could launch deathloop on gamepass PC and x cloud they would be announcing it from the roof tops to add to Sony's PR nightmare they're having at the moment.
Re: PS Now April 2021 Update Includes Marvel's Avengers and Borderlands 3
@SegataSanshiro I hear what your saying, and I agree it's good that we all like different things. Dualsense is now my favourite controller of all time and the immersion it adds to games is why I buy all the 3rd party games that use it on my PS5. I'm probably just regretting getting the series x and wish I had stayed with my one x for now as it just doesn't add much when your actually playing the games. Whereas the ps5 does.
But I'm sure in the coming years if they get the quality vs quantity right that will change and Sony will have some very stiff competition. Which at the end of the day we all want because we should all benefit.
Re: PS Now April 2021 Update Includes Marvel's Avengers and Borderlands 3
@SegataSanshiro though I do agree with you that gamepass is a good deal, I wouldn't go as far as saying it's an amazing deal. It could be in the future if/when they release brilliant 1st party games from all their studios(and don't raise the price too high) but at the moment for me it's a bit flat. I'm lucky enough to have a series x sat next to a PS5, but it only really gets turned on when my kids want to play minecraft or TABS. I did enjoy desperados 3 on the service but most of the others I've either played or have no interest in(outriders demo was crap). I have no interest in 360 games, I bought next gen consoles to play next gen games. And I think a lot of the big gamepass PR talk lately is to distract from the fact they have no 1st party games launching anytime soon. They wouldn't have paid for outriders if they did. It's funny that MS is making all these headlines when Sony have 3 big next gen console exclusives launching in the next 3 months. Sony's PR team need firing.
But I do agree that gamepass is better than psnow at the moment, but PSPlus has kept me entertained for the last 3 months. And on a side note, for me personally playing on the series x controller(MS's biggest mistake) after using the dualsense just feels lifeless.
Re: Reaction: Sony Said Xbox Game Pass Isn't Sustainable, Then Released One of Its Tentpole Titles into the Service Anyway
@everynowandben well I hope you are right. Time will tell eh, if MS keeps to the same number of studios it has now and just tries to deliver great games on its service then it will be great competition for Sony and Nintendo. But if in the next few years they start buying up even more studios and developers and take their games away from the other two then it becomes a problem.
Re: Reaction: Sony Said Xbox Game Pass Isn't Sustainable, Then Released One of Its Tentpole Titles into the Service Anyway
@Oscarjpc strange, my 2 controllers that have hundreds of hours of usage are still working perfectly well 4 months later. There are probably 10 to 20 million dualsenses in the wild, it's expected that several thousand would have problems. Nobody apart from Sony know the true numbers.
Re: Reaction: Sony Said Xbox Game Pass Isn't Sustainable, Then Released One of Its Tentpole Titles into the Service Anyway
@Ken_Kaniff I agree that MS are trying to take over the market, and they have the deep pockets to do it. It concerns me what the gaming space we obviously all love will look like in the years to come if they do. But on the exclusives front, MS have still yet to deliver great 1st party games of the quality that Sony does. They have bought all these studios but they to show that they can deliver. It will be very interesting to see the quantity vs quality that gamepass will have to juggle in the years ahead.
Yes I agree that Sony do need to make some moves that show they are listening. But id rather have Sony's studios than microsofts.
Re: Reaction: Sony Said Xbox Game Pass Isn't Sustainable, Then Released One of Its Tentpole Titles into the Service Anyway
@everynowandben your assuming that there will be competition left to go to. I think it's obvious that MS are in this for the long game, they have deep pockets and haven't stopped spending yet by all accounts. Healthy competition is great, heck I have an xbox sat next to my ps5 so I want them to compete. But what happens if they buy ubisoft next and take all those games away. Then go after another big developer like Activision? Competition then becomes a monopoly which Sony couldn't compete with, then gaming would change completely. And not in a good way.
Re: Reaction: Sony Said Xbox Game Pass Isn't Sustainable, Then Released One of Its Tentpole Titles into the Service Anyway
@Ken_Kaniff I'm one of the unwise ones then, because I love my PS5 and the difference between the dualsense and the dual shock is night and day. I would never go back to my Pro now. Yeah GPU is great value but I hardly turn my series x on (thought outriders was crap) because all its good for at the mo is backwards compatibility. Yes I'm sure in the years to come MS will start dropping big new games on it, but in the mean time I'll be enjoying returnal, deathloop and R&C in the next 3 months.
Re: Days Gone - Open World Comfort Food with a Survival Horror Spin
Loved this game when I first played it. Its easily a 9 out of 10 for me. Interesting story, fun gameplay and a great lead character. And the hordes are some of the best gaming I've experienced. First time you wipe one out is a great feeling.
I part exchanged it a while ago, so happy to get it next week and I'll probably play through it again on my PS5.
Re: PS Plus April 2021 PS5, PS4 Games Announced
Another great month for me, and I've played and beaten Days gone ages OK. Pleased for people who haven't played it yet, such a good game. And we're getting a brand new PS5 game day one, it's not something I would have bought but I'm going to give it a try. The last 3 months have been tremendous value, so much so that my xbox has hardly been turned on.
Re: Ghost of Tsushima Has Sold a Staggering 6.5 Million Copies
Favourite game of last year. Really pleased for the developers and look forward to the sequel on PS5.
Re: Returnal on PS5 Has a Neat Asynchronous Online Feature
Really looking forward to playing this. Seems like they have tried to be very creative with this game and give the player a unique experience. Whether or not its worth the money will always come down to the individual, me personally, I will get it day one.
Re: Next-Gen PSVR Controllers Revealed, Includes Haptic Feedback and Adaptive Triggers
@blinx01 I'd be really surprised (and happy) if psvr2 is below 350 to be honest. They are on about higher resolutions and bigger fov, plus all the other tech(eye tracking) they might to add. Can't see that being cheap.
Re: Next-Gen PSVR Controllers Revealed, Includes Haptic Feedback and Adaptive Triggers
Really excited to try these out, I love the dualsense so think they will add a lot to the games. I have a PC setup with this type of tracking and for the most part it's great. My one concern would be what type of batteries they go for, internal or AA. Because my PC controllers that are AA, eat through them really quickly and they don't have half the tech of these controllers.
Re: PlayStation Players Get 10 Free PS4 Games This Spring, Including Horizon Zero Dawn
Really generous, never played the HZD dlc so looking forward to that. Going to claim all the vr games and hope psvr2 will be backwards compatible, as I intend to get it when it releases.
Re: Outriders Is Going to Be a Commercial Crater on PS5, PS4
@Hypnotoad107 I agree that gamepass is brilliant value for money (at the moment) and gives you choice, I subscribe myself. But what @Exlee300p and @BadPlayerOne are maybe saying is that in the long run it could hurt gaming if MS continue on their current course unchecked. MS had a NET income of 42billion last year, they are a trillion dollar company. Yes Sony have bought developers before but not on the scale or consequence of the Bethesda deal. Imagine if MS buy ubisoft and take 2 next. What if they went mental and bought EA and took all the sports games, battlefield games away from Sony players. The casual gamers (which are the majority) would steer massively to the green side.
And you say that streaming TV is the future and the content is better, but that has a lot of competition, Netflix, Amazon, Disney, Sky in my country and many others. If MS got too big, had all the biggest games who would keep them honest? My bet would be prices go up and quality would go down.
But hey, hopefully regulation would stop them getting a monopoly and destroying the thing we all love, gaming.
Re: Outriders Is Going to Be a Commercial Crater on PS5, PS4
@Fenbops it's a small subscription fee now, but If MS keep going the way they are and corner most of the market then how long do you think it will stay like that? If they buy even more studios and developers!
I bet in the years to come that small fee could end up £30 a month or more. And I say this as gamepass subscriber. Healthy competition is good, a monopoly would ruin gaming.
Re: Outriders Is Going to Be a Commercial Crater on PS5, PS4
Thought the demo was OK but not up to something of the division 2's quality. Way too many cut scenes for me. Was thinking of getting it when it goes on sale cheap.
MS are certainly throwing their money around at the mo. In one way I think it's good because it gives Sony some very strong competition, which hopefully we as PlayStation owners benefit from with better services(I think psplus shows the effects already). But I do wonder what MS's end game is, how far they are willing to spend. They keep buying more studios, more games for gamepass, effectively try and kill the competition. Then when they have the market they can charge what they like for gamepass and if you want to play most of the games you'll have to pay it.