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@twitchtvpat when Spiderman 2 releases it has been 11,5 months between two 1st party releases. That has never been the case for playstation studios before.

We’ve seen in latest showcase what the Playstation studios are working on at rhe moment and from what we’ve seen it’s mainly live service fps games. To me that ain’t pretty.

@Grumblevolcano I don't see Microsoft is forcing Sony to go this route when Sony can also create multiple smaller games to fill the gaps between big games, just like Nintendo does. Nintendo releases what, 10 games a year or so, with one big hitter and 9 smaller to cater the Nintendo fanboys that buy every Nintendo published game. And most become evergreen title because they have much variety in experiences too. Guaranteed income. Xbox is going that route with games like Pentiment and Hi-Fi Rush. Sony could also go that route because they have so much IP left untouched.

Give us a new gravity rush, new rpg from the old box (tons of rpg to create a series of), new astroboy, Siphon filter, Jak and daxter, Sly cooper, wipeout, twisted metal, or remasters of older Sony published games (that according to Jim nobody has interest in, but which is selling like hot cakes on Nintendo's system).

@get2sammyb Most liveservice games are very predatory. And there's only an audience for a few good live service games, so many games that have been built upon in years will fail to hit the mark. Wasted money that could have gone to different developments (e.g. suicide squad).

I absolutely detest the way Sony is moving with this. They used to have a lot of creative development studios, but that creativity is lost when they turned into big budget games only. Nintendo has taken over that crown nowadays. We can see the 1st party drought already sadly.

@AhmadSumadi they weren’t on switch, cloud, phones, nvidia shield etc though.

@AhmadSumadi maybe read my comment to see where Sony is heading.

@StrawberryTurtle maybe people look neutral to it and say this whole deal is not a big deal without being a sony pony or xbot or nintendo fanboy?

I’m one of them and I say this whole deal is in the end not a big deal for sony but also that it’s good sony gets a little smack on their chin for once. After the xbox one debacle sony consolidated every big 3d party franchise that matters. And the money they got are now being turned into live services. And away from innovation and creative games. Absolutely not the way i’d like gaming to go. So yeah, bring on a big competitor.

And yes, i owned every sony console and the vita up to and including the ps4.

The end is nigh! The world is doomed.

Although to me it feels that this was inevitable and good for competition. It’s good for everybody Sony gets a shakeup for once in more than a decade.

@Fiendish-Beaver i mean, if amazon and google are not even able to enter the gaming atmosphere, there’s absolutely no competition for Sony next to Xbox and Nintendo.

I’m happy that Sony gets to be put on their toes a little.

@TheArtfulDodger it’s ok now but so is buying up companies, since all three big companies: Nintendo, Sony and Microsoft, do so.

@Sakai because of clicks

Microsoft is led by very bad corporates. Sony on the other hand which has a CFO obsessed with growth (https://www.pushsquare.com/news/2023/02/sony-shakes-up-corporate-ladder-by-promoting-exec-obsessed-with-growth ) and which outspend Sega to take over its market ($299) and tried the same with Nintendo and Microsoft is a very good company.

@UltimateOtaku91 i’m not so sure it will. And if workarounds would be worth it to Microsoft.

@UltimateOtaku91 the deal hasn’t closed yet

@UltimateOtaku91 neither has Microsoft

@pharos_haven it’s the same story. Company buys company they already have a working relationship with. Company from then on makes games for said company only.

Out of this shopping list the only one who has acquired something is Sony. It’s therefore Sony that should stop buying companies.

@pharos_haven why not?

Sony purchases a company that has exclusivity deals with xbox. Who’s to say Insomniac didn’t release Spiderman on Xbox to get the deal done?

Microsoft purchases a company that has exclusivity deals with playstation.

Same story.

@Yaycandy it was a statement by xbox’s boss under oath yet you say it’s a lie.

Bold.

And reading through other comments I see others claiming Spencer is lying too.

Alrighty then.

You all know Sony bought exclusivity and the whole of Insomniac after the Sunset Overdrive exclusivity deal by xbox, right? I’d love to see the day Insomniac releases Spiderman on Xbox. To disprove Spencer’s point made.

Yeah, they get more money from consumers this way.

And sony doesn’t release enough games for a subscription model to work. One game a year, and a few 3d party exclusives aren’t going to cut it.

Lol at so many people here trash talking Microsoft when Sony buys advertisement rights for so many games.

Also a reminder to everybody that the Atlus Persona games shown will be on gamepass so the deal is still better on xbox. And maybe Metaphor Refanrazio too. So us consumers win.

@Darth_Stofi why though? What are your arguments?

@dodoo Agreed

@naruball in terms of diversity in gaming (different gaming experiences) I think Nintendo still wins. Compare Metroid with Zelda, Brain Age, Clubhouse Games, Mario, Famicom Detective Club, Fire Emblem, Mario Kart, Luigi’s Mansion, Nintendo Labo, Super Smash Bros and Splatoon and you can see that no two gaming experiences are alike.

Jim Ryan basically saying: ‘don’t you guys have phones and loads of spare time for all our upcoming games as a service?’

Well, this is Sony investing in the live-service games. I think I saw three or four of those games? With Square Enix and EA also adding theirs?

I miss the days where Sony would release also a bunch of experimental and smaller stuff in between the big hitters. Sadly they wrapped up those studios.

Looking forward to the 3d party games though. Especially Diablo IV, Street fighter 6, metal gear soliD, Alan Wake 2 and Talos Principle 2. But I’ll be playing all those games on my series X because I like that console more for games that don’t make use of the dual sense controller.

@ChrisDeku nah man. I was just responding to your claim that PS4 was selling more systems than switch during their lifespan.

@ChrisDeku ok, feel free to change the metric to whatever fits your need, of course. I think Sony did the same in their chart.

If you look at the chart I gave a link to you can also see that 20 months in Nintendo was ahead. And 32 months in again. So yeah….

@ChrisDeku why should it be divided into regions? Switch outsold ps4, most important metric. Also, makes sense that the ps4 was ahead of switch until the pandemic because the ps4 is years longer on the market. And per year on the market the switch and the ps4 had roughly the same sales but the ps4 lost steam and the switch did years later. https://www.vgchartz.com/article/454961/switch-vs-ps4-sales-comparison-august-2022/

@MrRusty agreed

@Kevw2006 you could say that to above commenters who brought dlc for gta iv into the discussion then too…

Also, the whole spiderman franchise is excluded from anything not Sony. So…. it has nothing to do with Insomniac, they just made the game Sony asked them to make, but Sony kept the whole Spiderman franchise from all other places. Incomparable to Hellblade.

@Kevw2006 same can be said about the gta iv dlc

@Kevw2006 that game was not in that whole list @anthony_daniels had written down. And it’s a franchise consisting of a single game.

Also, that company is comparable in size to insomniac when bought. Shall we start talking about Spiderman exclusivity too? And compare the size of that franchise to Hellblade?

@Americansamurai1 yeah, I know, and the other 3 gta’s were exclusive for sony for years before that. Sony started that shut.

@ItsBritneyB_tch be happy it gets fixed?

@Rob_230 and sony the ten years before that. Remember gta 3?

@Anthony_Daniels which of those franchises has turned out to be exclusive to xbox so far?

@Kevw2006 gta 3, gta vice city and gta san andreas say hi.

@Anthony_Daniels which franchise is now exclusive to xbox that wasn’t before?

So this developer is owned by Xbox, still a PS5 remaster?

Absolutely love the redesign of Cammy. (Edit: like everybody in the comments above me )

She will be my new main character. Looks fluid with the option of great combo’s. A bit (or a lot actually) like the redesign of Nina Williams from Tekken 8.

@nomither6 i would agree with that paragraph.

Such a shame Sony got rid of their Japan Studio. And that Quantic Dream got acquired by NetEase.

We can now tell what two types of games Sony will make for the next 10 years. Single player narative driven action games, and the occasional racing game. Oh, and MLB the show. That’s all I think. Not much variety.

Oh, and apparently 12 live service games. Joy…

@thedevilsjester so yeah, about the headline of this news post we can ask two things:

• what can be considered next-gen VR. Answer probably the PSVR2, while the Quest 2 can’t be considered next-gen.
• does Sony truly deliver it to the masses with a price tag of 1000 euros minimum? I don’t think so.

I think it will remain at the same attachment rate as psvr at that price and especially with the current and announced line-up of games (and rumoured reveals tomorrow) which was about 4-5%. Profitable, but not mass appeal.

Also, the Quest 3 is apparently coming at the end of this year, replacing Meta Quest 2 and priced around 400-500 euros with the same specs or comparable to psvr2 and meta quest pro. And probably backwards compatible.

I think I’ll wait out on the psvr2, see where that story goes. Unless Sony can convince me with something new and great other than racing and rhythm games (again), which I loved, don’t get me wrong, but won’t make me buy into a new system all over again…

@nomither6 have you been called a 10 year old already? . I unlocked that trophy today for saying that Sony does do scummy business with their timed exclusive deals which originates all the way back to the ps2 with GTA 3 for instance.

I asked which comment made me look like a 10 year old, no response. I’m probably on that ignore list too….

@thedevilsjester which games would you say it’s currently worth it for you to pay 500 euros for a psvr2? Honest question.

It’s so much money, doesn’t seem for the masses at all (yet).