Xbox mainly tried to sell gamepass. And if you see what’s all being released on gamepass for no additional costs in the upcoming months, plus the confirmation that bethesda games will be day one gamepass exclusives too, their showcase was absolutely what Xbox needed
The writer mentions two remakes of older games. It makes sense the talk about those releases fade away relatively quickly. Doom Eternal is a sequel to Doom, a game that had a LOT of buzz for a long time because it had something new. But Eternal isn’t as innovative. We’ve seen the gore before in 2016.
The really innovative games stand the test of time. People still talk about God of War, the Last of us, Breath of the Wild, the Witcher, Skyrim. Makes sense that the other games fade away a bit, just like movies tend to do.
Just as Nintendo might be seen as an underdog once in a while but still finds its own blue ocean all the time, Sony will be just fine because of its high quality exclusives.
@Iroha you make comments like they’re the truth and not an opinion. That everything Bethesda makes is a disaster is maybe an opinion, but of course an untrue statement.
Mario 64 has bugs. Final Fantasy VII has bugs. Zelda Ocarina of Time And Breath of the Wild have bugs. Are they a disaster too?
Get real. Games of Bethesda are among the most popular on the planet. For a reason. And not because you think they’re only a meme, a disaster.
@Iroha you literally said ‘everything they [Bethesda] make is a disaster’, yet you edited your comment to nuance your statement and turn it into something else.
However, if you consider how EA usually adds games to EA Play, apparently it will be available 4 months after release? And until then, Fifa 2020 might be just fine for some people. Or am I missing something here?
@Stragen8 @Shepherd_Tallon you can buy the games you like with a discount though if you’re subscribed to gamepass. So you will still have it, just as with gog.com, steam and the likes. It’s an option néxt to buying games. Not instead of buying games.
Just an added bonus i’d say when comparing it with Sony’s business model.
If you have a big enough install base, you will earn enough money, also for the big games. The install base isn’t big enough yet, but they’re aiming to get 2 billion players. Everything is sustainable with that amount of people.
Of course it is. I’m presenting my opinion. Which is per definition biased.
And yes, Odyssey is a milestone for Mario. Gameplay wise. And no, it hasn’t got anything to do with story, most of Nintendo’s games don’t have story, they focus almost solely on gameplay.
And if you think Flight Simulator isn’t a milestone, the general public and critics thinks differently. I also could have mentioned Half-Life Alyx if you think Flight Simulator would show me being biased or something. Alyx is just as much a groundbreaking game released this year.
To each their own.
And whatever. I don’t have to convince you or something. Hope you’ll enjoy your PS5 .
@Col_McCafferty Don’t know why but I’ve got the feeling you’re upset because I’ve said that a lot of Sony’s games are big block buster 3d party action games with different skins and different stories. They’re mainly relying on story and cgi—one-button-effects. They feel as if they follow exactly the same architecture / game designs, to me. Like 20 platformers, all different skins but you move from left to right. Also, Death Stranding isn’t a sony game.
Dunno, got bored by them after PS4. I’m back to RPG’s now, with which i got bored with 10-15 years ago. Guess it comes and goes in phases. That’s ok, right?
If you love PS4 games, PS5 is the exact same thing but with higher graphical settings if you have the setup for it. Nothing ‘new’ nothing ‘exciting’.
Haven’t played it yet, but I think Flight Simulator takes simulation games to an extreme different level. It’s not that you’re in a plane. It’s just that it feels completely real. The physics engine looks incredible. And really, having the actual real life world cramped up in a game and unfolding in front of you, that’s insanely spectacular. Technologically mind blowing if you ask me.
@Col_McCafferty yes, I’ve made up my mind. I won’t be buying PS5 soon, since Horizon comes to PS4 too, my only anticipated exclusive.
Next to that I’ll continue enjoying my switch, and I’ll get a Series S or X for all 3d party stuff and Game Pass when Flight Simulator gets released on the system. And I’ll enjoy the Medium, I’m sure.
Are you calling Netflix an “ An all you can eat buffet which actually turns out to include rotten items and only one type of cheese.“? it’s the same concept, really. A ton of stuff which when taken together is suited for everyone for a low price, with high quality stuff mixed into it.
@Sim1 not many, you’re right. However, there are still some games that are still groundbreaking.
Mario Odyssey, Breath of the Wild and Flight Simulator are those groundbreaking games of recent years that I’m thinking about. New experiences. New technology.
Maybe God of War and Last of Us collection (for storytelling) could be on that list. But then again, Sony is turning it more and more into blockbuster movies.
@playstation_king as I said, I have playstation 2, 3 and 4 lined up here. Second game I ever bought myself? Tekken on the PS 1 for my brother in law’s console, after Mario 64.
So are you really calling me an Xbox fanboy? Try to get out of your bubble once in a while.
@WallyWest am I though? I have playstation 2, 3 and 4 all lined up here.
I am very disappointed in the 3d person, only cgi games Playstation currently makes. Horizon, God of War, Ghost of Tsushima, even Death Stranding all felt very the same to me in a way. All 3d person over the shoulder action stuff with a story. And they do that again.
Also, Sony has a thing for buying exclusivity rights currently. I don’t like that practice one bit. And they are the only ones on the market that do that.
@Col_McCafferty you can have your opinion, but it’s same story every console generation for Sony. No innovation except stolen ideas, same games, safe bet.
In my opinion: Microsoft with Gamepass and functional Xcloud on phones, computers and their own box, that’s impressive. THAT is next gen. Same with Switch hardware.
To each their own, but Sony only has one pony to bet on.... and for me it’s getting boring. First PS launch I won’t join in.
Truly nothing groundbreaking in my opinion during the PS5 announcement. Final fantasy 16, but also coming to pc. Bunch of games we already had seen. Are any of them truly groundbreaking? Almost all CGI stuff. One button press and the character does all kind of things for half a minute. Just like playing a movie. No dates for any of the games. We have no idea about the launch lineup.
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Re: Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 Will Also Require a Linked Phone Number In Order to Play
Blizzard-Activision stretching the ‘Do you guys not have phones?’ -meme to the max.
Re: PS5 Overtakes Switch as UK's Best-Selling Console of 2022
@OneWingedAngel you know Sony’s profit margin has increased 0,5% this year and that their current profit margin is 10%?
The price increase of the PS5 is ***** and absolutely not a necessity.
Re: MultiVersus Has Reached More Than 10 Million Players Before It's Fully Launched
I played it but I prefer Super Smash Bros Ultimate.
Re: Deathloop Will Remain a PS5 Console Exclusive Until At Least 14th September, 2022
@UltimateOtaku91 how do you know?
Re: Round Up: What Was Announced During Sony's Latest State of Play Livestream?
@Nem to each their own. But they showed a lot of games. Also exclusives.
But feel free to like whatever you like of course.
Re: Round Up: What Was Announced During Sony's Latest State of Play Livestream?
@JapaneseSonic
Re: Round Up: What Was Announced During Sony's Latest State of Play Livestream?
@RubyCarbuncle well. There’s flight simulator now. Scorn next month. Forza 5 in three months. Halo infinite somewhere in the upcoming months.
And the promise of one very big exclusive every quarter after 2021.
Dunno, but that’s almost as many as playstation 5 exclusives in a year. With ratchet and Clank being my only ps5 exclusive buy so far.
https://culturedvultures.com/biggest-xbox-exclusives-games-2021/
Re: Round Up: What Was Announced During Sony's Latest State of Play Livestream?
@RubyCarbuncle the platform is bad because games are also being released on pc?
Re: Round Up: What Was Announced During Sony's Latest State of Play Livestream?
@Nem both Nintendo and Xbox had a very good showcase.
https://www.ign.com/articles/xbox-won-e3-according-to-new-poll
Xbox mainly tried to sell gamepass. And if you see what’s all being released on gamepass for no additional costs in the upcoming months, plus the confirmation that bethesda games will be day one gamepass exclusives too, their showcase was absolutely what Xbox needed
Re: Soapbox: The Conversation About Games Moves Too Quickly
It really depends on the title.
The writer mentions two remakes of older games. It makes sense the talk about those releases fade away relatively quickly. Doom Eternal is a sequel to Doom, a game that had a LOT of buzz for a long time because it had something new. But Eternal isn’t as innovative. We’ve seen the gore before in 2016.
The really innovative games stand the test of time. People still talk about God of War, the Last of us, Breath of the Wild, the Witcher, Skyrim. Makes sense that the other games fade away a bit, just like movies tend to do.
Re: Xbox Series X|S Runs PS2 Games Better Than PS5
@soy it requires almost no extra steps to do so on a xbox series though. Almost anyone can do it.
Re: Xbox Series X|S Runs PS2 Games Better Than PS5
@ORO_ERICIUS just as well as series x.
Re: Xbox Series X|S Runs PS2 Games Better Than PS5
@ORO_ERICIUS 300. Series S.
Also, you sound jealous
Re: Bethesda Games Are Looking Increasingly Unlikely on PS5
@get2sammyb you have no idea what his plans are. So you can’t say that he should stop dancing around that answer.
He said they’ll decide on a game by game basis. And that’s a very logical thing to do.
Re: Reaction: PS5's User Experience Is Made for Modern Games
Maybe Microsoft can implement their Office To Do app to achieve something similar?
Re: Here's Your First Look at the PS5 UI
So, we’re actually playing a to do list now?
Re: Sony Expects PS5 to Outsell PS4's First Fiscal Year
Playstation’s overconfidence maybe backfires as it has done before. And as it has done to Microsoft too.
Re: Hands On: Genshin Impact Is a Very Impressive Free-to-Play Action RPG
It’s all fun and games until you’re playing the prequel, Breath of the Wild.
Re: Free-to-Play RPG Genshin Impact Is Out Now on PS4
Free to play?
Shame.... i was interested, but never knew it was a free to play game.
I’ll stick with the prequel for now, Breath of the Wild, until I hear some raving reviews.
Re: Reaction: Bethesda Acquisition Is a Kick in the Balls for PS5, But Sony's Goals Won't Change
@SamMR you are absolutely right, sir. Especially now that EA play is part of Game Pass the typical sports crowd might be moving over for instance...
Re: FIFA 21 Won't Have a Free Demo for the First Time This Generation
@tomassi or play the previous installment which is more or less the same anyway
Re: Reaction: Bethesda Acquisition Is a Kick in the Balls for PS5, But Sony's Goals Won't Change
Just as Nintendo might be seen as an underdog once in a while but still finds its own blue ocean all the time, Sony will be just fine because of its high quality exclusives.
Re: Future Bethesda Games Could Still Come to PlayStation Despite Xbox Ownership
@Iroha you make comments like they’re the truth and not an opinion. That everything Bethesda makes is a disaster is maybe an opinion, but of course an untrue statement.
Mario 64 has bugs. Final Fantasy VII has bugs. Zelda Ocarina of Time And Breath of the Wild have bugs. Are they a disaster too?
Get real. Games of Bethesda are among the most popular on the planet. For a reason. And not because you think they’re only a meme, a disaster.
Re: Future Bethesda Games Could Still Come to PlayStation Despite Xbox Ownership
@Iroha you literally said ‘everything they [Bethesda] make is a disaster’, yet you edited your comment to nuance your statement and turn it into something else.
You would make a great politician....
Re: FIFA 21 Won't Have a Free Demo for the First Time This Generation
@LiamCroft you’re right. My bad.
However, if you consider how EA usually adds games to EA Play, apparently it will be available 4 months after release? And until then, Fifa 2020 might be just fine for some people. Or am I missing something here?
https://www.reddit.com/r/XboxGamePass/comments/iuy9sx/will_fifa_21_be_included_in_game_pass/
Re: FIFA 21 Won't Have a Free Demo for the First Time This Generation
Game Pass, guys. Get all the EA games you want from december onwards.
And on a sidenote: if you want to play a demo, just play any previous installment.
Re: The Elder Scrolls Online PS4 Support Unaffected by Microsoft Acquisition
@Shepherd_Tallon true, but netflix was founded 23 years ago and you’re still able to buy movies.
I don’t think it’ll be a be all and end all I think.
So far, it’s great value and I will make use of it I think (while it lasts) .
Re: The Elder Scrolls Online PS4 Support Unaffected by Microsoft Acquisition
@Stragen8 @Shepherd_Tallon you can buy the games you like with a discount though if you’re subscribed to gamepass. So you will still have it, just as with gog.com, steam and the likes. It’s an option néxt to buying games. Not instead of buying games.
Just an added bonus i’d say when comparing it with Sony’s business model.
Re: Future Bethesda Games Could Still Come to PlayStation Despite Xbox Ownership
@Iroha ok, so you don’t like Skyrim and all Fallout installments prior to Fallout 76 for example?
‘Everything is a disaster’, a lot of people disagree with that statement about Bethesda.
Re: Future Bethesda Games Could Still Come to PlayStation Despite Xbox Ownership
@B-I-G-DEVIL not necessarily.
If you have a big enough install base, you will earn enough money, also for the big games. The install base isn’t big enough yet, but they’re aiming to get 2 billion players. Everything is sustainable with that amount of people.
Re: Future Bethesda Games Could Still Come to PlayStation Despite Xbox Ownership
@Zeke68 you don’t know how big the pre-order stack was, though. Could be a couple of hundred for all you know.
Re: Future Bethesda Games Could Still Come to PlayStation Despite Xbox Ownership
@Hobbesyall you won’t! You can also play them on Android phones, tablets and PC!
Oh, and Nintendo Switch.
Re: UK Sales Charts: Mario Forces Avengers and Tony Hawk Down the Top 10
Mario: Bye bye!
Re: Talking Point: Did the PS5 Showcase Event Deliver?
@Sim1 maybe.
But I’m also not a fan of big blockbuster movies. I’m a person that can achieve tons of enjoyment with indie games. So it also could just be me .
Re: Talking Point: Did the PS5 Showcase Event Deliver?
@OneManDroid well said. I agree.
Re: All PS5 First-Party Exclusives
@Grimwood i agree with you. Not much that defines PS5. PS5 is just the same as PS4. No new experiences. Just expansion passes.
Re: All PS5 Launch Games
So spiderman, which can be played on ps4. I’m not a souls person.
I’ll be able to hold on to current gen a bit longer. That’s fine! No need for me to battle with the scalpers.
Re: Talking Point: Did the PS5 Showcase Event Deliver?
@Col_McCafferty ‘your bias is showing’.
Of course it is. I’m presenting my opinion. Which is per definition biased.
And yes, Odyssey is a milestone for Mario. Gameplay wise. And no, it hasn’t got anything to do with story, most of Nintendo’s games don’t have story, they focus almost solely on gameplay.
And if you think Flight Simulator isn’t a milestone, the general public and critics thinks differently. I also could have mentioned Half-Life Alyx if you think Flight Simulator would show me being biased or something. Alyx is just as much a groundbreaking game released this year.
To each their own.
And whatever. I don’t have to convince you or something. Hope you’ll enjoy your PS5 .
Re: Talking Point: Did the PS5 Showcase Event Deliver?
@Col_McCafferty Don’t know why but I’ve got the feeling you’re upset because I’ve said that a lot of Sony’s games are big block buster 3d party action games with different skins and different stories. They’re mainly relying on story and cgi—one-button-effects. They feel as if they follow exactly the same architecture / game designs, to me. Like 20 platformers, all different skins but you move from left to right. Also, Death Stranding isn’t a sony game.
Dunno, got bored by them after PS4. I’m back to RPG’s now, with which i got bored with 10-15 years ago. Guess it comes and goes in phases. That’s ok, right?
If you love PS4 games, PS5 is the exact same thing but with higher graphical settings if you have the setup for it. Nothing ‘new’ nothing ‘exciting’.
Haven’t played it yet, but I think Flight Simulator takes simulation games to an extreme different level. It’s not that you’re in a plane. It’s just that it feels completely real. The physics engine looks incredible. And really, having the actual real life world cramped up in a game and unfolding in front of you, that’s insanely spectacular. Technologically mind blowing if you ask me.
But as I said, haven’t played it yet.
Re: Talking Point: Did the PS5 Showcase Event Deliver?
@Col_McCafferty yes, I’ve made up my mind. I won’t be buying PS5 soon, since Horizon comes to PS4 too, my only anticipated exclusive.
Next to that I’ll continue enjoying my switch, and I’ll get a Series S or X for all 3d party stuff and Game Pass when Flight Simulator gets released on the system. And I’ll enjoy the Medium, I’m sure.
Are you calling Netflix an “ An all you can eat buffet which actually turns out to include rotten items and only one type of cheese.“? it’s the same concept, really. A ton of stuff which when taken together is suited for everyone for a low price, with high quality stuff mixed into it.
But to each their own. Happy gaming!
Re: Talking Point: Did the PS5 Showcase Event Deliver?
@Sim1 not many, you’re right. However, there are still some games that are still groundbreaking.
Mario Odyssey, Breath of the Wild and Flight Simulator are those groundbreaking games of recent years that I’m thinking about. New experiences. New technology.
Maybe God of War and Last of Us collection (for storytelling) could be on that list. But then again, Sony is turning it more and more into blockbuster movies.
That’s how I feel about them though.
Re: Sony Confirms PS5 Games Will Cost More
@Kalvort that, and with a gamepass subscription you don’t even have to buy most games...
Re: Talking Point: Did the PS5 Showcase Event Deliver?
@doctommaso as I said. They’re more and more like movies. You play them for the story. Not the gameplay. One button press and cgi starts rolling.
In my opinion of course.
Maybe I’ve seen it all. Maybe I should start.... reading books or something.
Re: Talking Point: Did the PS5 Showcase Event Deliver?
@playstation_king as I said, I have playstation 2, 3 and 4 lined up here. Second game I ever bought myself? Tekken on the PS 1 for my brother in law’s console, after Mario 64.
So are you really calling me an Xbox fanboy? Try to get out of your bubble once in a while.
Re: Talking Point: Did the PS5 Showcase Event Deliver?
@WallyWest am I though? I have playstation 2, 3 and 4 all lined up here.
I am very disappointed in the 3d person, only cgi games Playstation currently makes. Horizon, God of War, Ghost of Tsushima, even Death Stranding all felt very the same to me in a way. All 3d person over the shoulder action stuff with a story. And they do that again.
Also, Sony has a thing for buying exclusivity rights currently. I don’t like that practice one bit. And they are the only ones on the market that do that.
Re: Talking Point: Did the PS5 Showcase Event Deliver?
@playstation_king ugh. Fanboy alert.
Re: Talking Point: Did the PS5 Showcase Event Deliver?
@Col_McCafferty you can have your opinion, but it’s same story every console generation for Sony. No innovation except stolen ideas, same games, safe bet.
In my opinion: Microsoft with Gamepass and functional Xcloud on phones, computers and their own box, that’s impressive. THAT is next gen. Same with Switch hardware.
To each their own, but Sony only has one pony to bet on.... and for me it’s getting boring. First PS launch I won’t join in.
Re: Talking Point: Did the PS5 Showcase Event Deliver?
@WallyWest except they had almost no reveals . Final fantasy XVI, HP and Five nights at Freddies.
Re: Talking Point: Did the PS5 Showcase Event Deliver?
Truly nothing groundbreaking in my opinion during the PS5 announcement. Final fantasy 16, but also coming to pc. Bunch of games we already had seen. Are any of them truly groundbreaking? Almost all CGI stuff. One button press and the character does all kind of things for half a minute. Just like playing a movie. No dates for any of the games. We have no idea about the launch lineup.
Boring to be honest.