So the questions are: how many indies were asked, were there any different responses, and are we only seeing quotes in the article from the ones who fit the narrative?
I'm not looking to blindly defend Sony. Clearly there is room for improvement, but just as clearly, the issues mentioned here are not common to all.
So of course, use the date format only used by the US. 🙄
To 99% of the world, 07/08/2021 is 7th August 2021. When these companies use trailers globally, they really should use the name of the month - it would remove any doubt and be much easier for everyone.
But seriously... these obsessives tracked down his PSN ID and started messaging him, and now they know his face. If it hasn't already happened, what's the betting that at some point one of these idiots is going to start with various threats?
Loved the first, thought the second was okay, didn't bother with the third. The move from the survival horror of the first to the more action-game approach of the other cost it a lot of its appeal, at least for me personally.
Reminds me of the 'singing roads' that can be found in various places around the world. Japan has several, but the best I've heard is this one in Hungary...
I was never overly interested in this, but decided against it completely thanks to the issues.
I still commend Sony for removing it from the store, however I feel that's an action they should take more often, with any game suffering such issues.
Case in point: I bought Sniper Ghost Warrior 3 in a sale in November 2019, at which point it had been out and on the store for two-and-a-half years. I had no end of crashes in that, one every few hours... but they never removed it from sale. I guess it wasn't high profile enough, and not enough people bought it for complaints to be widespread enough to draw attention.
Made no difference to me. They had one game that I was interested in with Back4Blood, but I lost interest in that when they announced the card system several weeks back.
As for Game Pass... I'm just not interested in it, or any subscription gaming service beyond Plus. I wasn't interested in Stadia, I'm not interested in PS Now.
I turn 50 next birthday, so maybe I'm just a bit old-fashioned, but I actually like to buy and own my games, movies, and music, and not rent or stream them... which is also why I still buy movies I really enjoy on disc, and music I really like on CD, and why I don't bother with things like Spotify.
I mean, I've got a gaming PC, and I don't even sub to Game Pass on that.
As someone who's been having a blast with friends over the last few months playing the relatively few games which offer some co-op, I'm liking the look of Rainbow Six: Extraction. Hopefully, it'll be something worth getting.
I wanted current-day or near-future. But I also wanted a campaign.
Online-only and multiple battle passes per year means I'm 100% out.
Far Cry 6 is looking far more attractive, as is Six Days in Fallujah. And I know Guerrilla have moved on, but I'd love another Killzone. Too few single-player FPS games these days.
Well, I wanted a current or near-future setting, but with no single-player and multiple 'season passes', I won't be bothering with this. I just don't play online enough to justify the costs, and as I'd probably be at a major disadvantage without the passes, I won't bother at all.
It's now official, though... EA has gone from my one-time favourite publisher to a company with zero products I'm interested in.
I used to buy almost everything they released during the C64 and Amiga years, and the 90s and 00s on PC and PlayStation, up through the first half of the PS3 years. Since the launch of PS4, I've bought BF4, and 2 or 3 FIFAs... FIFA19 being the last I bought.
Well, at least they had the decency to put the one thing I might possibly be interested in at the front of the show, so I can turn it off after that. 👍
Of course they believe in generations. But did people really think/expect that they were going to just abandon a 115+ million PS4 user base and start making all their games for PS5 only?
Better a handful of vocal idiots melting down over nothing, than giving an entire user base of millions something to be genuinely angry about.
"We believe in generations" is not equal to "there's a cut-off, and all future first-party games will be PS5-only."
Have they made it easier to pull together the stuff you need to fuel the warp engines yet? Because that was my main gripe and has long been the one thing keeping me from getting back into it.
It was cool at first, finding A and B to make C, and D, E, and F to make G, then combining C and G to get H, and so on... but it very quickly began to grate, as it just felt like unnecessary busywork, and got in the way of enjoying the exploration.
I was told that you could enable a mode added a while after release to disable that, but that it also disabled trophies. Is that still the case?
My PS3 Slim is still connected to my TV, but has been used maybe twice since I got my PS4 back in 2013.
My original 60GB 'fat' PS3 with all the b/c is in its box in the spare room, and - as far as I know - still in full working order. I really should get it out and test it.
"This is being done so that the teams working on the franchise can focus on the future."
That seems... unlikely. When would be the last time "the teams" did anything with these games which was remotely time-consuming, other than maybe rebooting a server once a month?
Still, the notice given seems fine to me. If you haven't bought the game by now, you probably weren't going to anyway... and it gives you a good 3 months to mop up any trophies you may need.
I'm sure there'll be the usual outcry from the usual vocal minority, but if they really cared, they'd still be playing, and the figures wouldn't have dropped low enough to justify turning the servers off.
Still, I look forward to seeing how (un)social media spins this to somehow be Sony's fault - or indeed if it gets anything like the backlash Sony gets for doing the same; you know, how important it is to 'preserve' these retro games, etc.
Nothing for me. No interest in fighting games, and I didn't think enough of SWBF2 to finish it, so no interest in Squadrons either... though to be honest, despite being a Star Wars fan, I never have been interested in the games.
One of the best things about it is that it seems to be making a logical progression, unlike some game series of the past.
Obviously we don't know where in the story the gameplay falls, but it seemed that Aloy carries over the skills she learned in the first game and adds to them, perhaps the weapons too.
It grinds my gears with some games when you have to re-learn skills your character finished the previous game with, like some kind of half-witted amnesiac.
Don't really care when they hold an event, just as long as it has substantial and solid information. Pretty tired now of being told about things way too early and then having to wait months (or years) for more news.
Take time developing things, and announce them when you're certain you can stick to a date without shoving out a rushed and/or unfinished product. If you don't know to within 6 months when it will be ready for release, we don't need to know about it.
Might be nice if Sony adopted this policy on a wider basis, given the state of some games at release these days. Might actually encourage developers to test properly/more thoroughly before release, like they used to... and publishers to stop pushing them to rush things.
It's great that they now have the ability to patch bugs post-release, but it's also a development that is roundly and widely abused to foist unfinished products upon us.
Won't be bothering with this. I'm currently enjoying/enduring a love/hate relationship with DayZ - that's enough sado-masochism for me to deal with for now. At least in DayZ you can keep your stuff with you when you sign out.
@PegasusActual93 That's fair enough. I don't really, either. I manage a couple of hours at a time with DayZ, but wouldn't really want to add another such game to my collection until I'm done with it.
@PegasusActual93 I completely understand that feeling.
I was talked into getting DayZ just after Christmas, and initially, that was my exact reaction. It's basically all about mindset... you need to accept that you're going to die a lot.
It took some effort on my part, but I convinced myself to stick with the game, and I eventually came to accept it. I've died over and over - not always at the hands of other players, but mostly simply starving to death. But when you do manage to survive long enough to find some decent gear and meet up with friends, it becomes a very engrossing game. Granted, it might only happen one out of every ten lives, but when it happens, it's a great feeling.
I still have bouts of rage with DayZ, as there are aspects of it which are just nonsense, and way tougher than they should be, even if it is a survival game. And don't get me started on the sheer number of obvious and rampant bugs which still exist in a 7-year-old-game. But when it clicks, it's quite a feeling.
A couple of mates and I were interested in this, as we've been having a lot of fun on DayZ since Christmas.
But I watched a video on YouTube from ScaleSpeeder Gaming, where he said it's not only very buggy, but also missing much of the content present in the PC version. Add to that the apparently highly toxic community, and when I told the guys, we let out a collective sigh and decided not to bother with it.
@nomither6 Monetised or not, it's likely to be a 'no' from me. If you can disable it or just not use it, great; if not, I'll pass. I don't have the patience to faff around with mechanics like this.
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Re: Report: How PlayStation Is Failing Indie Developers
An alternative view...
Martijn van der Meulen on Twitter:
Can't say much but our games ship on all major platforms and PlayStation represents over 50%(!) of our sales.
And "PS Store submission is so complicated one dev wrote its own set of instructions" is the norm on all platforms. Shipping games is hard.
https://twitter.com/yesdogman/status/1410974844397797382
So the questions are: how many indies were asked, were there any different responses, and are we only seeing quotes in the article from the ones who fit the narrative?
I'm not looking to blindly defend Sony. Clearly there is room for improvement, but just as clearly, the issues mentioned here are not common to all.
Re: Report: How PlayStation Is Failing Indie Developers
"just time yourself finding a given indie game on any platform — say Shovel Knight."
Took me under 10 seconds. 🤷♂️
Re: Bluepoint Stresses It's Fully Independent as Sony Acquisition Speculation Swirls
They're all independent, right up until they sign the deal.
Re: PS Plus July 2021 PS5, PS4 Games Announced
"We suppose that there's a bit of something for everyone"
And you'd be wrong! 😂
Re: Bots Will Pad Out Battlefield 2042's 128 Player PS5 Servers
Not much of an online player, so with no single-player I won't be bothering with it anyway. Roll on Six Days in Fallujah, I guess. 🤷♂️
Re: Why Ubisoft's Avatar Game Couldn't Work on PS4
Will be interesting to see the system requirements for the PC version.
If the minimum is 8GB RAM and it doesn't need an RTX card and an SSD, all these claims will be proven to be BS.
Re: Media Molecule Is Collaborating with (Checks Notes) Mercedes-Benz on Dreams Project
Media Molecule - British company.
Mercedes - German company.
Sony/PlayStation - Japanese company.
Dreams x Mercedes trailer - global release.
So of course, use the date format only used by the US. 🙄
To 99% of the world, 07/08/2021 is 7th August 2021. When these companies use trailers globally, they really should use the name of the month - it would remove any doubt and be much easier for everyone.
Mini-rant over. 😜
Re: Latest PS Store Sale Offers Nearly 600 PS5, PS4 Mid-Year Deals
@Mostik If you want to try out Outriders, there's a pretty hefty demo...
https://store.playstation.com/en-gb/product/EP0082-PPSA02284_00-3452094931313045
Personally, I didn't rate it.
Re: Latest PS Store Sale Offers Nearly 600 PS5, PS4 Mid-Year Deals
Anthem for £8.39!
How are they still selling that when it's broken and abandoned? 🤔 If they took CP2077 off...
Re: Abandoned Dev Appears on Camera to Denounce Silent Hill, Hideo Kojima Speculation
That's very clearly Kojima in a mask, though. 🤣
But seriously... these obsessives tracked down his PSN ID and started messaging him, and now they know his face. If it hasn't already happened, what's the betting that at some point one of these idiots is going to start with various threats?
Re: Rumour: Unannounced Dead Space Game Is a 'Reimagining', Not a Sequel
Loved the first, thought the second was okay, didn't bother with the third. The move from the survival horror of the first to the more action-game approach of the other cost it a lot of its appeal, at least for me personally.
Re: Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart's Pixelizer HD Plays a Funky Melody with PS5 Pad's Haptics
Reminds me of the 'singing roads' that can be found in various places around the world. Japan has several, but the best I've heard is this one in Hungary...
https://youtu.be/FdyDS7NAJF8
Re: Hideo Kojima Fans Investigate PS5 Exclusive Abandoned, Reads Like Conspiracy Theories
@vapidwolf "the meaning of saklanmak in Turkish means to hide oneself"
hide oneself
hide oneself
😲
🤣
Re: Hideo Kojima Fans Investigate PS5 Exclusive Abandoned, Reads Like Conspiracy Theories
Unpopular opinion: I hope Kojima doesn't have anything to do with it, because then it might be a decent game! 😳
Oh no he di'nt!
Oh ye he did!
Re: Cyberpunk 2077 Is Returning to the PlayStation Store, Supposedly
I was never overly interested in this, but decided against it completely thanks to the issues.
I still commend Sony for removing it from the store, however I feel that's an action they should take more often, with any game suffering such issues.
Case in point: I bought Sniper Ghost Warrior 3 in a sale in November 2019, at which point it had been out and on the store for two-and-a-half years. I had no end of crashes in that, one every few hours... but they never removed it from sale. I guess it wasn't high profile enough, and not enough people bought it for complaints to be widespread enough to draw attention.
Re: Back 4 Blood Requires Just One Person in Your Party to Buy DLC
Very commendable.
Now just tell us we can play without bothering with the card system, and I might be interested again.
Re: Reaction: Xbox Game Pass Is the Thorn in PS5's Side
Made no difference to me. They had one game that I was interested in with Back4Blood, but I lost interest in that when they announced the card system several weeks back.
As for Game Pass... I'm just not interested in it, or any subscription gaming service beyond Plus. I wasn't interested in Stadia, I'm not interested in PS Now.
I turn 50 next birthday, so maybe I'm just a bit old-fashioned, but I actually like to buy and own my games, movies, and music, and not rent or stream them... which is also why I still buy movies I really enjoy on disc, and music I really like on CD, and why I don't bother with things like Spotify.
I mean, I've got a gaming PC, and I don't even sub to Game Pass on that.
Re: Round Up: What Was Announced at Ubisoft Forward?
As someone who's been having a blast with friends over the last few months playing the relatively few games which offer some co-op, I'm liking the look of Rainbow Six: Extraction. Hopefully, it'll be something worth getting.
Re: Xbox Head Targets Sony for Not Launching Games Day and Date on PC
And that's why there's no reason for anyone with a decent PC to buy an Xbox, Phil.
Re: Naughty Dog Seeking to Bring Studio's Trademark Ambition and Quality to Multiplayer Project
If there's a version of co-op PvE in the game, I might be interested, but not if it's just PvP gubbins.
Can't be bothered with PvP stuff, and Factions never really clicked with me (pun intended).
Re: Battlefield 2042 Goes Near Future on PS5 and PS4, Out in October
I wanted current-day or near-future. But I also wanted a campaign.
Online-only and multiple battle passes per year means I'm 100% out.
Far Cry 6 is looking far more attractive, as is Six Days in Fallujah. And I know Guerrilla have moved on, but I'd love another Killzone. Too few single-player FPS games these days.
Re: Battlefield 2042's First Year Will Be Marked by Four Battle Passes
Well, I wanted a current or near-future setting, but with no single-player and multiple 'season passes', I won't be bothering with this. I just don't play online enough to justify the costs, and as I'd probably be at a major disadvantage without the passes, I won't bother at all.
It's now official, though... EA has gone from my one-time favourite publisher to a company with zero products I'm interested in.
I used to buy almost everything they released during the C64 and Amiga years, and the 90s and 00s on PC and PlayStation, up through the first half of the PS3 years. Since the launch of PS4, I've bought BF4, and 2 or 3 FIFAs... FIFA19 being the last I bought.
Re: Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart: Fidelity, Performance, Performance RT - Which Graphics Mode Is Best?
If I had a PS5 right now: Fidelity, as I don't have a 4K TV.
If I had a PS5 and a 4K TV: Still Fidelity, because give me a more detailed world and a solid 30fps every... single... time.
Re: E3 2021 Timetable: Dates and Times for All Events, Press Conferences, and Live Streams
Well, at least they had the decency to put the one thing I might possibly be interested in at the front of the show, so I can turn it off after that. 👍
Re: Splinter Cell, The Division, Ghost Recon Crossover Game Leaks Ahead of Ubisoft Forward
"online PvP"
Re: Metro, Saints Row, TimeSplitters, and Dead Island Won't Be at E3 2021 or Summer Games Fest
Meh. Personally, none of them are games I particularly care about. 🤷♂️
Re: Talking Point: Did Sony Lie About PS5?
Of course they believe in generations. But did people really think/expect that they were going to just abandon a 115+ million PS4 user base and start making all their games for PS5 only?
Better a handful of vocal idiots melting down over nothing, than giving an entire user base of millions something to be genuinely angry about.
"We believe in generations" is not equal to "there's a cut-off, and all future first-party games will be PS5-only."
Re: No Man's Sky Gets Visual Overhaul in New Prisms Update
Have they made it easier to pull together the stuff you need to fuel the warp engines yet? Because that was my main gripe and has long been the one thing keeping me from getting back into it.
It was cool at first, finding A and B to make C, and D, E, and F to make G, then combining C and G to get H, and so on... but it very quickly began to grate, as it just felt like unnecessary busywork, and got in the way of enjoying the exploration.
I was told that you could enable a mode added a while after release to disable that, but that it also disabled trophies. Is that still the case?
Re: PS3 Received a New Firmware Update, By the Way
My PS3 Slim is still connected to my TV, but has been used maybe twice since I got my PS4 back in 2013.
My original 60GB 'fat' PS3 with all the b/c is in its box in the spare room, and - as far as I know - still in full working order. I really should get it out and test it.
Re: Cyberpunk 2077 Crash Rates Charted in Official CDPR Graph
I suspect the Y-axis , from top to bottom, reads something like...
Far too many
Definitely too many for Sony
Can we talk people out of refunds?
Oh sh*t how did we f*ck up this badly
Still far too many
Better, but still too many
C'mon guys, do better!
Sony still not happy
Does anyone here know what they're doing?
Why is this thing still crashing?
Will Sony put it back on the store yet?
Goddamit, I wish we'd never made this game
Can't give up now
Re: Five Need for Speed Games Pulled from PS Store Permanently
"This is being done so that the teams working on the franchise can focus on the future."
That seems... unlikely. When would be the last time "the teams" did anything with these games which was remotely time-consuming, other than maybe rebooting a server once a month?
Still, the notice given seems fine to me. If you haven't bought the game by now, you probably weren't going to anyway... and it gives you a good 3 months to mop up any trophies you may need.
I'm sure there'll be the usual outcry from the usual vocal minority, but if they really cared, they'd still be playing, and the figures wouldn't have dropped low enough to justify turning the servers off.
Still, I look forward to seeing how (un)social media spins this to somehow be Sony's fault - or indeed if it gets anything like the backlash Sony gets for doing the same; you know, how important it is to 'preserve' these retro games, etc.
Re: Aloy Trends As Fans Discuss Horizon Forbidden West Hero
Regarding the tweet featured in the article... read some of the guy's other tweets, and you'll see exactly what kind of person you're dealing with.
Re: Poll: Are You Happy with Your PS Plus Games for June 2021?
Nothing for me. No interest in fighting games, and I didn't think enough of SWBF2 to finish it, so no interest in Squadrons either... though to be honest, despite being a Star Wars fan, I never have been interested in the games.
Re: Poll: Are You Sold on Horizon Forbidden West?
Was never any doubt that I'd be getting it, as I loved the first game and want to see how the story progresses.
I will be picking it up for PS5 though... assuming I can get one.
Re: Far Cry 6 Gameplay Looks Wild and Chaotic, Out This October
Love me some Far Cry, so I'm in... just not on the Xbox the trailer suggests.
Re: Horizon Forbidden West State of Play Is Already Sony's Most Watched Single-Game Presentation
One of the best things about it is that it seems to be making a logical progression, unlike some game series of the past.
Obviously we don't know where in the story the gameplay falls, but it seemed that Aloy carries over the skills she learned in the first game and adds to them, perhaps the weapons too.
It grinds my gears with some games when you have to re-learn skills your character finished the previous game with, like some kind of half-witted amnesiac.
Re: Sony Uses Fan-Made God of War Ragnarok Logo in Official Presentation, Fools Us All
With the last game being the only one I've played, I doubt I'll be getting the next one anyway. 🤷♂️
Re: Soapbox: Why I'm Not Expecting a PS5, PS4 Press Conference from PlayStation Next Month
Don't really care when they hold an event, just as long as it has substantial and solid information. Pretty tired now of being told about things way too early and then having to wait months (or years) for more news.
Take time developing things, and announce them when you're certain you can stick to a date without shoving out a rushed and/or unfinished product. If you don't know to within 6 months when it will be ready for release, we don't need to know about it.
Re: Cyberpunk 2077 Dev Still in Talks with Sony Over PlayStation Store Return
Lost any interest I had in this a long time ago.
Might be nice if Sony adopted this policy on a wider basis, given the state of some games at release these days. Might actually encourage developers to test properly/more thoroughly before release, like they used to... and publishers to stop pushing them to rush things.
It's great that they now have the ability to patch bugs post-release, but it's also a development that is roundly and widely abused to foist unfinished products upon us.
Re: Dying Light 2 Livestream Planned for This Thursday
This AND Horizon Forbidden West? 😮😁
Edit: Oh... Twitch. 😑
Re: Rust Console Edition (PS4) - Ugly Survival Game Has Special Moments
Won't be bothering with this. I'm currently enjoying/enduring a love/hate relationship with DayZ - that's enough sado-masochism for me to deal with for now. At least in DayZ you can keep your stuff with you when you sign out.
Re: Rumour: PS Plus June 2021 Line-Up Leaked Ahead of Time
Pretty lousy as far as I'm concerned. No interest in Squadrons, and I haven't been interested in fighting games since the early PS2 days.
Re: Rust Console Edition Guide: How to Get Started
@PegasusActual93 That's fair enough. I don't really, either. I manage a couple of hours at a time with DayZ, but wouldn't really want to add another such game to my collection until I'm done with it.
Re: Rust Console Edition Guide: How to Get Started
@PegasusActual93 I completely understand that feeling.
I was talked into getting DayZ just after Christmas, and initially, that was my exact reaction. It's basically all about mindset... you need to accept that you're going to die a lot.
It took some effort on my part, but I convinced myself to stick with the game, and I eventually came to accept it. I've died over and over - not always at the hands of other players, but mostly simply starving to death. But when you do manage to survive long enough to find some decent gear and meet up with friends, it becomes a very engrossing game. Granted, it might only happen one out of every ten lives, but when it happens, it's a great feeling.
I still have bouts of rage with DayZ, as there are aspects of it which are just nonsense, and way tougher than they should be, even if it is a survival game. And don't get me started on the sheer number of obvious and rampant bugs which still exist in a 7-year-old-game. But when it clicks, it's quite a feeling.
Re: Rust Console Edition Guide: How to Get Started
A couple of mates and I were interested in this, as we've been having a lot of fun on DayZ since Christmas.
But I watched a video on YouTube from ScaleSpeeder Gaming, where he said it's not only very buggy, but also missing much of the content present in the PC version. Add to that the apparently highly toxic community, and when I told the guys, we let out a collective sigh and decided not to bother with it.
Re: PC Games Now Utilise PS5 DualSense Controller Features
Really is about time both DualShock 4 and DualSense had native Steam support, symbols and all.
Re: Back 4 Blood Trailer Introduces Its Characters and Infected Horde
@nomither6 Monetised or not, it's likely to be a 'no' from me. If you can disable it or just not use it, great; if not, I'll pass. I don't have the patience to faff around with mechanics like this.
Re: Back 4 Blood Trailer Introduces Its Characters and Infected Horde
@nomither6 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egKKE8dQC9M
Re: Poll: How Excited Are You for This Summer's Gaming Events?
The only thing I'd be interested in is a big reveal of something from Sony, but I doubt they have anything to show at the moment.
Re: Back 4 Blood Trailer Introduces Its Characters and Infected Horde
Lost my interest when they revealed the card system.