@Flaming_Kaiser As I said, it was "last I checked", which was some time ago. At that point, PS4 hadn't broken 100 million. The sales of PSVR were reported as around 4 million, which - given the equivalent time elapsed since launch - was significantly lower than the Vita managed. 🤷♀️
@GKO900 I'm with you. Last I checked, less than 5% of PS4 owners had bothered with PSVR, and it had sold less then Vita over a comparable period... yet they dumped Vita and persist with this.
I've tried PSVR, and I enjoyed my time with it, but I wouldn't buy one... I don't want to play games for hours with something hanging off my face, and while it's immersive with suitable games, I also feel it's restrictive in the type of gameplay it allows; it's ideal for a handful of genres, and just a gimmick for others.
On the one hand, I'm fine with it, as (a) more people get to play some awesome games, and (b) it means more money to the Sony devs for even more great games.
On the other hand, it makes me a little concerned for the future of PlayStation systems, and I think they need to be careful about the delay between a PlayStation release and PC release.
As someone with a decent PC, I already consider the Xbox to be irrelevant (note: just in my own personal view) because any game released on it is available on PC at the same time, so I personally have no need or interest in buying Xbox hardware. Presumably there are many others who feel the same.
That's not really an issue for me, as while I did own an original Xbox and (eventually) a 360, I've never really been a Microsoft fan; in fact, I have quite a strong dislike of them as a company, going back to before Xbox was even a thing. But I have been a fan of PlayStation (and Sony) since the PS1, and I'm not keen on them removing reasons to buy their own hardware as I feel Microsoft has done.
At the end of the day though, I'll be playing their games anyway, and playing them pretty much exclusively consoles, so... I guess it changes nothing, really! Well, that was a waste of typing, wasn't it? 😄
So, it's one of those things that is fairly natural, and just happens. Wear and tear.
If she were an actual person, I'm sure the legal teams behind these class action lawsuits would sue Mother Nature for the leaves falling from trees every autumn. "I don't care if you'll replace them in time, these trees were clearly not built to last!"
Sh*tty, scumbag lawyers looking for any chance to make a few bucks.
As with any tech, a certain volume has some issues. Not everything requires a fecking lawsuit. The console's been out 3 months... if you've got an issue, it's still covered by warranty.
Once upon a time, I'd have said "only in America", but we all know this kind of crap has spread almost global now.
Haven't really been following this as I've no interest in the game, but it's nice to see articles about people fascinated by a character for once, rather than the usual REEEEEset Era types screeching about big boobs, cleavage, and "over-sexualisation". Though I'm fairly sure I wouldn't have to look too far to find some.
I buy physical whenever possible, and if I'm keeping games, I want the cases to last, so I'll always prefer plastic to cardboard, as they get damaged too easily.
"Single use plastic" isn't necessarily automatically a bad thing. Sure, if it's a straw, bottle, cup, maybe so... but if it's a container for something you're keeping for a lifetime, and it's recyclable, that's different.
The biggest part of plastic pollution is people... those who just carelessly discard it by dropping it in the street, where it gets blown around and ends up in streams, rivers, and oceans. If it's properly disposed of and recycled, I don't see it as that much of an issue. But the whole aspect of littering is a personal hatred of mine; to me, an anti-littering message should be drilled into kids from an early age, in much the same way as anti-racism and the like.
Well, neither Destiny or Halo are selling points for me, but I'm always in favour of an FPS in a current war setting. If it's decent, I'm in.
Sounds like it might have a decent single-player campaign with some decent stories. Or at least it should, given the stated aim of telling it through the eyes of those who were there. Who knows, perhaps there might even be a tactical element to any multi-player, making a welcome change and setting it apart from the usual "run around like a headless chicken" approach of practically every other military FPS.
They stopped the f*ckers doing it with concert tickets, so do the same with these items too.
I don't mind the odd person buying, say, a couple, keeping one, and selling the other for a modest profit. But buying thousands of items you don't want yourself, for the sole purpose of milking money off those who genuinely want it... that stinks. It creates a shortage which wouldn't necessarily exist otherwise... same as with those who were panic-buying hand sanitiser and bogroll when we had the first COVID lockdown.
It would help if we did away with "RRP" or "SRP" ('recommended' or 'suggested') and fixing it at "RP" - retail price - where the manufacturer states the price, and it's illegal to sell above it.
As someone who doesn't even have a PS5 yet, how about letting them focus on new PS5 titles, rather than wasting time updating old games which already work perfectly well?
Not so much "can't wait to play it", more "never heard of it". And I have a gaming PC. But then looking at the screens and seeing "RPG", it doesn't seem to be my 'thing', so I'm not surprised.
Very little difference between PS4 Pro and PS5 judging by that video, other than frame rate of course... though I'm still of the opinion that in games like this, frame rate is irrelevant as long as it's smooth and reliable.
As for the game... I found it merely decent. Still deciding whether I want to go back and bother with the Platinum.
I redeemed the code successfully, but it doesn't seem to give you a link, and I'll be damned if I can find the download queue on the new store. It doesn't appear in my Library on the PS4 either.
And those people who have bought games on it will lose everything. I'm sure they'll be disappointed... both of them. 😜
This approach is the very worst of gaming solutions. I still believe physical is best, but even if you buy digital on PSN/Live, you still have the game to play. Buying a full-price game on a streaming service with no ability to download and keep? Truly bizarre.
While I do use Netflix and Prime, this is why I also still buy movies I really like on disc rather than through PSN, Prime, or Google Movies... the companies can, in theory, wipe out your access to your entire collection at the press of a button.
Nope. Had one pre-ordered, but wasn't guaranteed one for launch day and was informed shortly before launch that I wouldn't be getting one. I actually cancelled the pre-order some time between the US and UK launch, as there's nothing on it yet that I want to play.
For me personally, it was a disappointing launch line-up, and whatever improvements it may offer, I'm not going to buy one just to play my PS4 games when my Pro plays them perfectly well. Don't get me wrong, I'd play them on it if I had one and some PS5 games I wanted to play, but I'm not going to get one (even if I could) just to play them.
I'll pick one up at some point. I was thinking maybe around March, but it may be later than that. I've got a PS4 backlog and a PC to keep me occupied until then.
@sanderson72 "Kikstart' (as in the game) is what I actually typed, though it seems autocorrect stepped in again. But yes, I watched Kickstart as well!
I've only recently started playing Trials Fusion... got it via Plus a while back (I think... may have bought it in a sale, but can't remember), but hadn't touched it until now.
I quite enjoy these. Haven't played Erica yet, but The Bunker was fun, as was Late Shift. Good when you want something to play, but want a slower pace.
Never heard of the director or the movies. That's no bad thing though, as often lesser-knowns with something to prove will make a better product than the well known who often rest on their laurels.
It's also not uncommon for me not to know directors and others behind the scenes when it comes to movies and TV anyway, as I never pay attention to them; I'm only interested in the subject matter, and whether the show/movie entertains me.
If this conveys any of the mood, atmosphere, and chemistry of the game, it should do just fine, regardless of who's in it or who's behind the camera.
@Ah-Void Even if you were the only person on the planet to get it, it's still ultimately worthless.
It's a single-player game. If you earned it without using the device, you get some personal satisfaction from knowing that. That's all that matters. If others used it, it makes no difference whatsoever to your own personal achievement.
As I said earlier, be less concerned about how others play their game. Unless you upload a video to YouTube, no-one else knows how you earned it, and I can pretty much guarantee very few will care.
@WallyWest So don't use it! The choice is entirely yours.
The reason to do something which takes a ton of set-up is to gain the enjoyment of doing so, and the satisfaction of having it pay off... and get your money's worth out of the game. If you choose to go straight to the easy option, that's on you, nobody else. Have some self-control. Save the shortcuts for a second play-through.
@CptH0vvDy Okay, fair enough. But it still doesn't change the fact that it's a single-player game, and so still has no effect or bearing on anyone but the individual playing, as others aren't at a competitive disadvantage.
@get2sammyb That's fair enough, if the devs want to take it out, that's fine. I'm only referring to those players who think that its use is somehow 'cheating' when it's there for all to use.
@Nepp67 It is what it is. Use it if you like it; if you think it makes things too easy, don't. It's a single-player game - play it the way you want to.
@nessisonett It's a virtual trinket. It has no value beyond what you yourself allocate to it.
@get2sammyb But it's there for everyone to use, just like any other option. If it were real life and you had a device to minimise risk and make the job simpler, you'd use it.
Whether it's included or not, as long as it's not DLC and available to all, the playing field is level for everyone. Whining about other people using a perfectly valid method and getting a quick time, just because you (general 'you', not you specifically) don't want to "lower yourself" is ridiculous. You may as well complain that people are beating your lap time in GT Sport because they're using a Veyron and you want to compete in a Fiat 500.
Always amuses me when people complain about things being 'overpowered' in single-player games, when you have the option to not use them.
Never played a Hitman game, but it's not the first time I've seen such nonsense. There are complaints about some of the mods in SnowRunner making things too easy, which is ridiculous when they're not in the base game, and you'd have to go out of your way to get access to them. How other people choose to complete their game has zero effect on you.
Hopefully not until they have something new and significant to announce, otherwise people will just complain about it being full of stuff they already knew.
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Re: Sony Confirms Next Generation PlayStation VR Is in the Works for PS5
@Flaming_Kaiser As I said, it was "last I checked", which was some time ago. At that point, PS4 hadn't broken 100 million. The sales of PSVR were reported as around 4 million, which - given the equivalent time elapsed since launch - was significantly lower than the Vita managed. 🤷♀️
Re: Sony Confirms Next Generation PlayStation VR Is in the Works for PS5
@GKO900 I'm with you. Last I checked, less than 5% of PS4 owners had bothered with PSVR, and it had sold less then Vita over a comparable period... yet they dumped Vita and persist with this.
I've tried PSVR, and I enjoyed my time with it, but I wouldn't buy one... I don't want to play games for hours with something hanging off my face, and while it's immersive with suitable games, I also feel it's restrictive in the type of gameplay it allows; it's ideal for a handful of genres, and just a gimmick for others.
Re: Days Gone Is Coming to PC
On the one hand, I'm fine with it, as (a) more people get to play some awesome games, and (b) it means more money to the Sony devs for even more great games.
On the other hand, it makes me a little concerned for the future of PlayStation systems, and I think they need to be careful about the delay between a PlayStation release and PC release.
As someone with a decent PC, I already consider the Xbox to be irrelevant (note: just in my own personal view) because any game released on it is available on PC at the same time, so I personally have no need or interest in buying Xbox hardware. Presumably there are many others who feel the same.
That's not really an issue for me, as while I did own an original Xbox and (eventually) a 360, I've never really been a Microsoft fan; in fact, I have quite a strong dislike of them as a company, going back to before Xbox was even a thing. But I have been a fan of PlayStation (and Sony) since the PS1, and I'm not keen on them removing reasons to buy their own hardware as I feel Microsoft has done.
At the end of the day though, I'll be playing their games anyway, and playing them pretty much exclusively consoles, so... I guess it changes nothing, really! Well, that was a waste of typing, wasn't it? 😄
Re: We May Learn What the Future Holds for Bethesda Next Month
Wouldn't need an Xbox as I have a PC. But I'm not particularly interested in anything Bethesda make anyway, so... I'm good, whatever they decide.
Re: This Is Why PS5 Controllers Drift
So, it's one of those things that is fairly natural, and just happens. Wear and tear.
If she were an actual person, I'm sure the legal teams behind these class action lawsuits would sue Mother Nature for the leaves falling from trees every autumn. "I don't care if you'll replace them in time, these trees were clearly not built to last!"
Re: PlayStation Gear Merch Store Finally Returns to the EU
Some pretty lacklustre designs. Some of the old stuff was better.
Prices on some stuff are also laughably high. If it was half the price, they'd probably sell more than twice as much, and so make more money.
And why no keyrings?
Re: Soapbox: We Were Here, the Free PS4 Game No One Will Play with Me
Will see if my buddy is interested in this... we had fun with A Way Out.
Re: Rainbow Six: Quarantine Not Actually Renamed to Parasite
Don't tell me people are getting upset by the word 'quarantine' now? 🙄
Re: PS5 DualSense Drifting Triggers Class Action Lawsuit
Sh*tty, scumbag lawyers looking for any chance to make a few bucks.
As with any tech, a certain volume has some issues. Not everything requires a fecking lawsuit. The console's been out 3 months... if you've got an issue, it's still covered by warranty.
Once upon a time, I'd have said "only in America", but we all know this kind of crap has spread almost global now.
Re: Horizon Forbidden West on PS5, PS4 Is 'More of the Things People Loved About Zero Dawn'
The first game is the one I bought a Pro for.
The way things are at the moment, the sequel will probably be the one I buy a PS5 for. Assuming there are PS5s available by then, of course.
Re: Lady Dimitrescu Designer Shocked by Social Media's Thirst for Resident Evil Village Villain
Haven't really been following this as I've no interest in the game, but it's nice to see articles about people fascinated by a character for once, rather than the usual REEEEEset Era types screeching about big boobs, cleavage, and "over-sexualisation". Though I'm fairly sure I wouldn't have to look too far to find some.
Re: Feature: Could PlayStation Do More to Promote Green Packaging?
@Deanster101 Don't have any, nor will I. Don't have kids, don't want kids, don't like kids, and I personally am not driven by money.
Re: Feature: Could PlayStation Do More to Promote Green Packaging?
@Deanster101 The implication of "keeping something for a lifetime" suggests not planning to sell, and therefore the value is irrelevant.
Re: Feature: Could PlayStation Do More to Promote Green Packaging?
I buy physical whenever possible, and if I'm keeping games, I want the cases to last, so I'll always prefer plastic to cardboard, as they get damaged too easily.
"Single use plastic" isn't necessarily automatically a bad thing. Sure, if it's a straw, bottle, cup, maybe so... but if it's a container for something you're keeping for a lifetime, and it's recyclable, that's different.
The biggest part of plastic pollution is people... those who just carelessly discard it by dropping it in the street, where it gets blown around and ends up in streams, rivers, and oceans. If it's properly disposed of and recycled, I don't see it as that much of an issue. But the whole aspect of littering is a personal hatred of mine; to me, an anti-littering message should be drilled into kids from an early age, in much the same way as anti-racism and the like.
Re: Controversially Cancelled Shooter Six Days in Fallujah Returns This Year
Well, neither Destiny or Halo are selling points for me, but I'm always in favour of an FPS in a current war setting. If it's decent, I'm in.
Sounds like it might have a decent single-player campaign with some decent stories. Or at least it should, given the stated aim of telling it through the eyes of those who were there. Who knows, perhaps there might even be a tactical element to any multi-player, making a welcome change and setting it apart from the usual "run around like a headless chicken" approach of practically every other military FPS.
Re: PS5 Scalpers Reportedly Don't Like All the Bad Press They Get
They stopped the f*ckers doing it with concert tickets, so do the same with these items too.
I don't mind the odd person buying, say, a couple, keeping one, and selling the other for a modest profit. But buying thousands of items you don't want yourself, for the sole purpose of milking money off those who genuinely want it... that stinks. It creates a shortage which wouldn't necessarily exist otherwise... same as with those who were panic-buying hand sanitiser and bogroll when we had the first COVID lockdown.
It would help if we did away with "RRP" or "SRP" ('recommended' or 'suggested') and fixing it at "RP" - retail price - where the manufacturer states the price, and it's illegal to sell above it.
Re: This Is Who Will Play Ellie in The Last of Us TV Show
A few years ago, Kaitlyn Dever would have made a great younger Ellie.
Depending on the setting of the series, she might still have been able to portray a slightly older TLOU2 Ellie.
Re: Some Fans Think a PS5 Back Button Attachment May Be Imminent
I've managed 40+ years of gaming on various controllers without them, so... probably not unless there was a very compelling reason.
Re: Real-Life Little Nightmare, As Brexit Delays Sequel's Boxed Copies in UK
Oh no! 😱
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(Yes, that's all I have to say. This is filler.)
Re: Soapbox: Bring Back Warhawk on PS5, You Cowards
Would rather see a remake of the PS1 original. Or Dropship from PS2.
Re: Rumour: EA Will Decide If ANTHEM Lives or Dies This Week
I vote: Die. 👎
Not that I really care one way or the other. 😁
Re: Poll: What Other First-Party PS4 Game Needs a PS5 Update?
As someone who doesn't even have a PS5 yet, how about letting them focus on new PS5 titles, rather than wasting time updating old games which already work perfectly well?
Re: Interview: The Disco Elysium Team Talks PS5 Porting Process, Extra Content, and Dumb Deaths
Not so much "can't wait to play it", more "never heard of it". And I have a gaming PC. But then looking at the screens and seeing "RPG", it doesn't seem to be my 'thing', so I'm not surprised.
Re: God of War PS5 Patch Posts Staggering Results in Comparison Test
Very little difference between PS4 Pro and PS5 judging by that video, other than frame rate of course... though I'm still of the opinion that in games like this, frame rate is irrelevant as long as it's smooth and reliable.
As for the game... I found it merely decent. Still deciding whether I want to go back and bother with the Platinum.
Re: Share Your Gaming Stats with Spotify-Esque PlayStation Wrap Up 2020
Where do you go to download the theme?
I redeemed the code successfully, but it doesn't seem to give you a link, and I'll be damned if I can find the download queue on the new store. It doesn't appear in my Library on the PS4 either.
Re: PS5 Console Customisation Has Been Taken to the Next Level
That was supremely irritating. I just skipped to the end to see the artwork, and... that wasn't really worth it.
Does raise two questions, though...
Where and how did he get all those PS5's? Is one of/does he know the scalpers who have been grabbing all the stock?
They may have been answered in the video, but as I've already said, I skipped almost the entire thing.
Also: "celebrities such as Charli D'Amelio, Addison Rae, and Mr Beast"
Who, who, and who?
Re: PS Now Competitor Google Stadia Ceases Internal Game Development
OnLive Mk. II
And those people who have bought games on it will lose everything. I'm sure they'll be disappointed... both of them. 😜
This approach is the very worst of gaming solutions. I still believe physical is best, but even if you buy digital on PSN/Live, you still have the game to play. Buying a full-price game on a streaming service with no ability to download and keep? Truly bizarre.
While I do use Netflix and Prime, this is why I also still buy movies I really like on disc rather than through PSN, Prime, or Google Movies... the companies can, in theory, wipe out your access to your entire collection at the press of a button.
Re: Mass Effect Legendary Edition Is Probably Being Revealed in Full This Week
Played the third one on PS3. Best part was mining the planets. Other than that, didn't care for it, and won't be bothering with this.
Got a mate who's nuts about them, but they don't do anything for me.
Re: PS Plus February 2021 PS5, PS4 Games Announced
@Discol76 Once they become available, yes.
Re: PS Plus February 2021 PS5, PS4 Games Announced
@Gmork___ Use the mobile app. I grabbed Maneater with it for when I eventually get a PS5.
Re: PS Plus February 2021 PS5, PS4 Games Announced
I'll snag Concrete Genie, but they can keep the other two.
Re: Poll: Do You Have a PS5?
Nope. Had one pre-ordered, but wasn't guaranteed one for launch day and was informed shortly before launch that I wouldn't be getting one. I actually cancelled the pre-order some time between the US and UK launch, as there's nothing on it yet that I want to play.
For me personally, it was a disappointing launch line-up, and whatever improvements it may offer, I'm not going to buy one just to play my PS4 games when my Pro plays them perfectly well. Don't get me wrong, I'd play them on it if I had one and some PS5 games I wanted to play, but I'm not going to get one (even if I could) just to play them.
I'll pick one up at some point. I was thinking maybe around March, but it may be later than that. I've got a PS4 backlog and a PC to keep me occupied until then.
Re: Trials-Esque Motorbike Platformer Elasto Mania Returning with Remaster on PS5, PS4
@sanderson72 "Kikstart' (as in the game) is what I actually typed, though it seems autocorrect stepped in again. But yes, I watched Kickstart as well!
I've only recently started playing Trials Fusion... got it via Plus a while back (I think... may have bought it in a sale, but can't remember), but hadn't touched it until now.
Re: Trials-Esque Motorbike Platformer Elasto Mania Returning with Remaster on PS5, PS4
Personally, I'd have gone with 'Kickstart-esque', but I doubt half your readers would have a clue what that meant.
Re: Warzone Community Targets Roze Skin After Tournament Domination
Goddam those enemy soldiers, how dare they wear camo to conceal their location!
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Re: Cyberpunk 2077 Has a New, Game-Breaking Takemura Bug, CDPR Working on a Fix
Cyberpunk 2077? Seems more like Clusterf*ck 2021.
Re: FMV's Renaissance Continues with I Saw Black Clouds on PS5, PS4
I quite enjoy these. Haven't played Erica yet, but The Bunker was fun, as was Late Shift. Good when you want something to play, but want a slower pace.
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? - Issue 360
A bit of ETS2 and/or ATS, as they have an event running. And probably a bit of DayZ. Maybe some Trials Fusion.
Re: PS Plus Looks Like a Steal When Compared to New Xbox Live Gold Prices
Probably using the increase to fund Game Pass.
This will push people to Game Pass, and then they'll jack up the price on that.
Re: Director Kantemir Balagov to Helm The Last of Us TV Series Pilot Episode
Never heard of the director or the movies. That's no bad thing though, as often lesser-knowns with something to prove will make a better product than the well known who often rest on their laurels.
It's also not uncommon for me not to know directors and others behind the scenes when it comes to movies and TV anyway, as I never pay attention to them; I'm only interested in the subject matter, and whether the show/movie entertains me.
If this conveys any of the mood, atmosphere, and chemistry of the game, it should do just fine, regardless of who's in it or who's behind the camera.
Re: Hitman 3 Retires the ICA Electrocution Phone
@CptH0vvDy Indeed, but we're talking about those whining about its use in the previous version.
On the one hand, if you have the DLC and access to the gadget, there's nothing to complain about.
On the other hand, if you didn't like the game enough to buy the DLC, it really shouldn't matter to you that much anyway.
Re: Hitman 3 Retires the ICA Electrocution Phone
@CptH0vvDy And everyone is using what the game supplies. No-one is cheating, it's all above board.
Re: Hitman 3 Retires the ICA Electrocution Phone
@Ah-Void Even if you were the only person on the planet to get it, it's still ultimately worthless.
It's a single-player game. If you earned it without using the device, you get some personal satisfaction from knowing that. That's all that matters. If others used it, it makes no difference whatsoever to your own personal achievement.
As I said earlier, be less concerned about how others play their game. Unless you upload a video to YouTube, no-one else knows how you earned it, and I can pretty much guarantee very few will care.
Re: Hitman 3 Retires the ICA Electrocution Phone
@WallyWest So don't use it! The choice is entirely yours.
The reason to do something which takes a ton of set-up is to gain the enjoyment of doing so, and the satisfaction of having it pay off... and get your money's worth out of the game. If you choose to go straight to the easy option, that's on you, nobody else. Have some self-control. Save the shortcuts for a second play-through.
Re: Hitman 3 Retires the ICA Electrocution Phone
@CptH0vvDy Okay, fair enough. But it still doesn't change the fact that it's a single-player game, and so still has no effect or bearing on anyone but the individual playing, as others aren't at a competitive disadvantage.
Re: Hitman 3 Retires the ICA Electrocution Phone
@get2sammyb That's fair enough, if the devs want to take it out, that's fine. I'm only referring to those players who think that its use is somehow 'cheating' when it's there for all to use.
@Nepp67 It is what it is. Use it if you like it; if you think it makes things too easy, don't. It's a single-player game - play it the way you want to.
Re: Hitman 3 Retires the ICA Electrocution Phone
@nessisonett It's a virtual trinket. It has no value beyond what you yourself allocate to it.
@get2sammyb But it's there for everyone to use, just like any other option. If it were real life and you had a device to minimise risk and make the job simpler, you'd use it.
Whether it's included or not, as long as it's not DLC and available to all, the playing field is level for everyone. Whining about other people using a perfectly valid method and getting a quick time, just because you (general 'you', not you specifically) don't want to "lower yourself" is ridiculous. You may as well complain that people are beating your lap time in GT Sport because they're using a Veyron and you want to compete in a Fiat 500.
Re: Hitman 3 Retires the ICA Electrocution Phone
Always amuses me when people complain about things being 'overpowered' in single-player games, when you have the option to not use them.
Never played a Hitman game, but it's not the first time I've seen such nonsense. There are complaints about some of the mods in SnowRunner making things too easy, which is ridiculous when they're not in the base game, and you'd have to go out of your way to get access to them. How other people choose to complete their game has zero effect on you.
Re: Poll: When Do You Think Sony's Next State of Play Will Be?
Hopefully not until they have something new and significant to announce, otherwise people will just complain about it being full of stuff they already knew.
Re: EA Primed to Purchase Codemasters as Take-Two Withdraws Offer
Meh. Last Codies game I bought was... umm... TOCA3 on PS2, I think. And it wasn't as good as TOCA 2.