@romayavorskyi Unfortunately life doesn't work that way. Any bet we're sat in our homes filled with furniture and goods made in countries with despicable human rights records. I'm not saying it's right but that's the world we live in.
"this isn't going to go how you think it will go."
Nah actually it has gone exactly as I thought it would. When those who attack the current system are asked what system they would implement instead they do one of two things.
The honourable choice sees them list their ideas in public and allow them to be criticised as all ideas should. The dishonourable choice sees them obfuscate, make excuses and downright refuse claiming that those who asked should "go read up on these things". Usually because the ideas they have wouldn't survive first contact with reality.
Shame you chose the latter. May you never get near a shred of real political power.
@KundaliniRising333 Hi Kundalini, hope you're well mate.
Did you get a chance to put together a new economic system which will replace the current one? I'm really interested to hear about it is all. @nessisonett didn't get back to me either, I hope he's okay.
Care to name a better alternative? And if you say "regulated capitalism", please explain your meaning of that as well. Cheers, I hotly anticipate your well thought out responses.
Don't get me wrong I'd like games to be finished and to a good standard upon release but this habit of working on titles for years on end is getting quite tedious.
For comparison Mass Effect trilogy release dates were 2007, 2010 and 2012. 3 games in 5 years yet this has apparently been in development for 8. Are companies just incapable of having a clear vision and getting it done in a reasonable amount of time anymore?
@stvevan I'd like to think that as well but I just have a feeling they're going to overestimate people's want for a new console, even if they already own the model they're releasing.
In tough economic times like this, are PS5 slims or pros really going to fly out the door? I've seen people say they'd trade their current model for a slim, unless it comes with really fancy new upgrades I wouldn't bother considering "upgrading".
@ChrisDeku Well if a reviewer said "I'm sick of playing as a protagonist with black skin in video games" and someone responded negatively to the focus on race, I wouldn't automatically think the person who responded was "woke".
If a reviewer said "I'm sick of playing as a protagonist with white skin in video games" and someone responded negatively to the focus on race, I wouldn't automatically think the person who responded was a "basement dwelling incel who supported Donald Trump."
@ChrisDeku You can sum up the motivations of people who take issue with a character's skin colour pretty quickly in my experience whether they're criticising it or praising it, why should it matter if your motivations are pure?
Also if I remember correctly some of the reviewers even said they didn't finish it so he's taking them at their word.
I haven't mentioned anything regarding freedom of speech in this thread and I'm more than happy for people to express their opinion, if I think they're wrong I'll make a contrary argument, not block them like some others would.
@KundaliniRising333 "there are consequences when you pick such a generic characterization for your main protagonist : a stereotypical white biker persona and you're going to turn some people off cuz a lot of people don't like Alpha Chads a lot of people don't like stereotypical nonsense and it gets old it's very one-dimensional......Men like cars men like girls men like bikes men like guns men like muscles..... It's just cringe stuff."
You're entitled to your opinion but all those classic action movies/games/TV series sporting said tropes are more beloved by generations and even by many women than a lot of the crap the media corporations are pumping out today.
@ChrisDeku So unless a commenter on this thread comes out as saying "I support Trump" or "I dwell in my basement and am an involuntary celibate", how do you know that a commenter is those things? You don't and your comment fell into the same trap as that which you're accusing the dev in this article of, generalisng
@kyleforrester87 Haha that's what I'm hearing to be honest. It was harder earlier in the game than it is now but I'm going for the trophies and it does stifle the enjoyment somewhat. I don't have enough time or patience to do another run on casual I don't think. Even though it would be satisfying to obliterate mobs and bosses in two hits.
@Jaz007 You may well be correct, but that cheapens the whole thing of his sacrifice and every other characters death.
Death isn't final in this series. The reason death is emotional is because it's final whereas in the MCU, it isn't. They can just jump into the multiverse and bring another version back.
Hmm I disagree, because you would be less aware of what's happened with Wanda between End Game and Dr Strange.
To be honest though he whole Multiverse idea is just a tool for lazy writers to bring back/alter characters as they see fit. Not Ironman or Captain America though....for some reason the Multiverse can't bring them back.
@theMEGAniggle For the earlier MCU phases I agree, I think it was Agents of SHIELD which talks about the assault on the Hydra base shown at the start of Age of Ultron, you didn't really need to see AoS to link this up to the movie event, it'll just provided a bit more backstory. Down the line though, Dr Strange 2 was left a lot weaker if you hadn't watched Wandavision and the way the MCU has gone this will only get worse.
@stvevan Well then spend a lot of your time and money watching the films of the DCEU!
Regards James Gunn
But nah seriously I get what you mean, I felt the same when the MCU movies were being effected by events in the TV Shows which I never watched nor had any intention of doing so. Hopefully the writers keep the game contained in and of themselves and maybe just make references to what's going on in the movies without making you think you're in the dark plot wise.
Yeah the CE is sold out. I've resigned myself to never being able to buy another CE ever again. I think the scalping crisis during COVID with the PS5 and the idiots who bought from them have shown too many people that there's money to be made from people who are willing to pay double the RRP.
Such games as Plague Tale 2 though can still get a lot of money via Sony purchases though. I'm not saying every Xbox fan uses GP and they will still buy games physically or digitally but if it goes straight onto GP and the money it gets from MS doesn't touch the sides (unlikely I think or they wouldn't do it) then they'll have a harder time recouping their costs.
@Somebody Yeah that's why I said GP is good for indie Devs. I'm in favour of a subscription service for indie Devs who want that exposure which in turn helps them build a brand and series. My issue is paying £1 per month and having access to games which cost hundreds of millions to create.
GP is working out great for some Devs, works out very well for MS in terms of getting up player numbers from their competition but for gamers? Maybe for a short term hit but you're starting to see the lack in quality in GP games already, give it a few more years and it'll only get worse.
@Fiendish-Beaver I'm not denying that GP hasn't brought a lot of people to Xbox, with its pricing I'd be surprised if it didn't.
No Dev is losing billions either but Xbox and its acquisitions are subsidised massively by MS, that's why my final point of Xbox being cut off from MS money would cause Xbox to dump GP because just like Sony it wouldn't be affordable.
Streaming services like GP are only affordable if the cash is coming from somewhere other than the subscribers as Netflix are finding out.
You also didn't confront the point about PS exclusives catalogue being way stronger than Xbox.
The reason for the malaise is GP. MS are losing the quality war so are doing what they do best, buying up all the Devs it can in order to strangle the competition. Monopolies aren't good long term for the consumer or the industry going forward.
@StylesT "The old its 'bad for the industry' arguement lol.... basically just a go to line of ps fanboys who dont want to be classed as fanboys because they think it makes them sound impartial"
So to counter the many well made and varied arguments as to why GP is a bad for the industry, your counter argument is to call them fanboys.
I think you make the "GP adherent = zealot" arguement for us.
Most indie Devs probably want to be on GP for exposure at first, if you haven't spent much on your game (relatively speaking) but are unlikely to make much profit due to a crowded market then a lump sum from MS up front makes sense.
As for AAA games it all depends, if the Devs are under MS umbrella then they pretty much get subsidised on losses which in turn minimises risk, leading to stagnation of ideas, why bother working hard or innovating if you're going to get paid regardless?
For those Devs outside of MS remit, they'll want much bigger payments for GP first day access which fair enough MS can afford but doesn't mean it's a good practice.
The best evidence of what I've said above is the very few and lackluster titles Xbox have as flagship products. Sony could be doing more but the strength of its first party catalogue over Xbox speak for itself.
If Xbox was separated from MS and didn't have access to MS funding then the current GP model would be in the bin day one.
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Re: Atomic Heart PS5, PS4 Trophy List Will Have You Drinking Vodka for the Platinum
@romayavorskyi Unfortunately life doesn't work that way. Any bet we're sat in our homes filled with furniture and goods made in countries with despicable human rights records. I'm not saying it's right but that's the world we live in.
Re: Poll: Did You Buy Hogwarts Legacy?
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Re: Hogwarts Legacy (PS5) - A Harry Potter Dream Come True
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Re: Hogwarts Legacy (PS5) - A Harry Potter Dream Come True
So pleased this got a positive review! 😁
Re: God of War's Mjolnir Hammers India As PS5 Marketing Onslaught Strikes Again
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Re: Sony Shakes Up Corporate Ladder by Promoting Exec Obsessed with Growth
@KundaliniRising333
"this isn't going to go how you think it will go."
Nah actually it has gone exactly as I thought it would. When those who attack the current system are asked what system they would implement instead they do one of two things.
The honourable choice sees them list their ideas in public and allow them to be criticised as all ideas should. The dishonourable choice sees them obfuscate, make excuses and downright refuse claiming that those who asked should "go read up on these things". Usually because the ideas they have wouldn't survive first contact with reality.
Shame you chose the latter. May you never get near a shred of real political power.
Have a lovely day.
Re: Random: It Now Takes Devs 270 Days to Make One Gran Turismo Car
@KundaliniRising333 Hi Kundalini, hope you're well mate.
Did you get a chance to put together a new economic system which will replace the current one? I'm really interested to hear about it is all. @nessisonett didn't get back to me either, I hope he's okay.
Re: Sony Shakes Up Corporate Ladder by Promoting Exec Obsessed with Growth
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Re: Sony Shakes Up Corporate Ladder by Promoting Exec Obsessed with Growth
@KundaliniRising333 @nessisonett
Care to name a better alternative? And if you say "regulated capitalism", please explain your meaning of that as well. Cheers, I hotly anticipate your well thought out responses.
Re: Rumour: Dragon Age: Dreadwolf Could Still Be a Long Way Off
Don't get me wrong I'd like games to be finished and to a good standard upon release but this habit of working on titles for years on end is getting quite tedious.
For comparison Mass Effect trilogy release dates were 2007, 2010 and 2012. 3 games in 5 years yet this has apparently been in development for 8. Are companies just incapable of having a clear vision and getting it done in a reasonable amount of time anymore?
Re: Rumour: Spyro Fans Spot Potential 25th Anniversary Tease
@Americansamurai1 Ah I thought it was already a done deal. Cheers.
Re: Rumour: Spyro Fans Spot Potential 25th Anniversary Tease
I hope so but didn't Spyro's ownership come under MS recently? If so I imagine it will be exclusive.
Re: When Will Sony Unwrap PS5, PS4's Annual January Sale on PS Store?
CoD Cold War. Just need an easy FPS.
Re: Sony Bigwig Teases Very Important 2023 for PS5
@stvevan I'd like to think that as well but I just have a feeling they're going to overestimate people's want for a new console, even if they already own the model they're releasing.
Re: Sony Bigwig Teases Very Important 2023 for PS5
In tough economic times like this, are PS5 slims or pros really going to fly out the door? I've seen people say they'd trade their current model for a slim, unless it comes with really fancy new upgrades I wouldn't bother considering "upgrading".
Re: The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt - Complete Edition (PS5) - The Perfect Excuse to Replay a Masterpiece
@ShogunRok Hi Shogun, thanks for the review.
I own the Witcher 3 GOTY digitally for PS4. If I download it to my PS5 will it just update to this new version?
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? - Issue 456
Between seeing friends and putting the Christmas decorations up, trying to get ahead on DA Inquisition. 90hrs in and feel like I'm not even close.
Re: Days Gone Director Blames Woke Reviewers, Programmers for Critical Reception
@DenzelDM "Using "woke" as an insult just shows you're a sad sack who wants to jump on a right wing bandwagon.
All it means is being respectful of others"
So I doubt you identify as "woke" then with remarks like that?
Re: Days Gone Director Blames Woke Reviewers, Programmers for Critical Reception
@ChrisDeku Well if a reviewer said "I'm sick of playing as a protagonist with black skin in video games" and someone responded negatively to the focus on race, I wouldn't automatically think the person who responded was "woke".
If a reviewer said "I'm sick of playing as a protagonist with white skin in video games" and someone responded negatively to the focus on race, I wouldn't automatically think the person who responded was a "basement dwelling incel who supported Donald Trump."
Re: Days Gone Director Blames Woke Reviewers, Programmers for Critical Reception
@ChrisDeku You can sum up the motivations of people who take issue with a character's skin colour pretty quickly in my experience whether they're criticising it or praising it, why should it matter if your motivations are pure?
Also if I remember correctly some of the reviewers even said they didn't finish it so he's taking them at their word.
I haven't mentioned anything regarding freedom of speech in this thread and I'm more than happy for people to express their opinion, if I think they're wrong I'll make a contrary argument, not block them like some others would.
Re: Days Gone Director Blames Woke Reviewers, Programmers for Critical Reception
@OrtadragoonX I'm sure you are very middle of the road dude with your own opinions on things and I respect that. Refreshing to hear in fact.
Was just poking fun at the political climate today with my previous comment
Re: Days Gone Director Blames Woke Reviewers, Programmers for Critical Reception
@ChrisDeku I don't agree with all of what the Dev said.
I also disagree with what you said, you criticised the Dev for generalising by generalising.
Re: Days Gone Director Blames Woke Reviewers, Programmers for Critical Reception
"Either you’re a communist or a fascist to the ideologues."
So which are you?? 😜
Re: Days Gone Director Blames Woke Reviewers, Programmers for Critical Reception
@KundaliniRising333 "there are consequences when you pick such a generic characterization for your main protagonist : a stereotypical white biker persona and you're going to turn some people off cuz a lot of people don't like Alpha Chads a lot of people don't like stereotypical nonsense and it gets old it's very one-dimensional......Men like cars men like girls men like bikes men like guns men like muscles..... It's just cringe stuff."
You're entitled to your opinion but all those classic action movies/games/TV series sporting said tropes are more beloved by generations and even by many women than a lot of the crap the media corporations are pumping out today.
Re: Days Gone Director Blames Woke Reviewers, Programmers for Critical Reception
@EmmatheBest admits what?
Re: Days Gone Director Blames Woke Reviewers, Programmers for Critical Reception
@ChrisDeku So unless a commenter on this thread comes out as saying "I support Trump" or "I dwell in my basement and am an involuntary celibate", how do you know that a commenter is those things? You don't and your comment fell into the same trap as that which you're accusing the dev in this article of, generalisng
Re: Days Gone Director Blames Woke Reviewers, Programmers for Critical Reception
@ChrisDeku Definitely! I mean what else would they be if they take issue with being generalised and insulted for having an opinion contrary to yours??
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Re: Test Your PlayStation General Knowledge - Issue 22
4/15.....this quiz could be summed up in one word, esoteric
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? - Issue 455
@Lup I'm past Skyhold and I'm sure I'll manage it can just be a slog from time to time. I may come back to it down the line as a replay before DA 4.
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? - Issue 455
@kyleforrester87 Haha that's what I'm hearing to be honest. It was harder earlier in the game than it is now but I'm going for the trophies and it does stifle the enjoyment somewhat. I don't have enough time or patience to do another run on casual I don't think. Even though it would be satisfying to obliterate mobs and bosses in two hits.
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? - Issue 455
Dragon Age Inquisition on Nightmare which lives up to its name.
Re: Future DC Games Will Connect to the DCEU, Confirms James Gunn
@Jaz007 You may well be correct, but that cheapens the whole thing of his sacrifice and every other characters death.
Death isn't final in this series. The reason death is emotional is because it's final whereas in the MCU, it isn't. They can just jump into the multiverse and bring another version back.
Partly the reason why the MCU now sucks.
Re: Future DC Games Will Connect to the DCEU, Confirms James Gunn
Hmm I disagree, because you would be less aware of what's happened with Wanda between End Game and Dr Strange.
To be honest though he whole Multiverse idea is just a tool for lazy writers to bring back/alter characters as they see fit. Not Ironman or Captain America though....for some reason the Multiverse can't bring them back.
Re: Future DC Games Will Connect to the DCEU, Confirms James Gunn
@theMEGAniggle For the earlier MCU phases I agree, I think it was Agents of SHIELD which talks about the assault on the Hydra base shown at the start of Age of Ultron, you didn't really need to see AoS to link this up to the movie event, it'll just provided a bit more backstory. Down the line though, Dr Strange 2 was left a lot weaker if you hadn't watched Wandavision and the way the MCU has gone this will only get worse.
Re: Future DC Games Will Connect to the DCEU, Confirms James Gunn
@stvevan Well then spend a lot of your time and money watching the films of the DCEU!
Regards
James Gunn
But nah seriously I get what you mean, I felt the same when the MCU movies were being effected by events in the TV Shows which I never watched nor had any intention of doing so. Hopefully the writers keep the game contained in and of themselves and maybe just make references to what's going on in the movies without making you think you're in the dark plot wise.
Re: Microsoft Admits Its Games Are Worse Than Sony's
Microsoft also confirm sky is blue and water is wet.
Re: Test Your PlayStation General Knowledge - Issue 21
Kicking myself about the Aloy voice
Re: The FMV Revolution Continues with The Isle Tide Hotel on PS5, PS4
Sounds a bit like Bad Times at the El Royale
Re: Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 Ranked Play Targets 2023 Launch
I think it was on CoD WW2 when I last played ranked.
Just got killed by campers primarily.
Not that I'm bitter of course.
Re: Return to Monkey Island Lands a PS5 Version Next Week
Owning a PS5 finally paid off!
Re: Dragon Age: Dreadwolf Now Playable from Start to Finish
Think this may be my next day one purchase. Currently playing Inquisition, less than ten hours in and I forgot how good they are.
Re: Resident Evil 4 PS5 Is Getting a Fancy Collector's Edition
Yeah the CE is sold out. I've resigned myself to never being able to buy another CE ever again. I think the scalping crisis during COVID with the PS5 and the idiots who bought from them have shown too many people that there's money to be made from people who are willing to pay double the RRP.
Re: Shocking: Sony Doesn't Want Game Pass on PlayStation, Microsoft Has a Pop at PS Plus
@racinggamefanatic "Agreed. Microsoft is crushing it in games."
Unless you're being sarcastic, what games are MS "crushing"?
Re: Shocking: Sony Doesn't Want Game Pass on PlayStation, Microsoft Has a Pop at PS Plus
@Somebody Starfield isn't out yet so the jury is very much out on its success and I don't know what Redfall is.
I'm not saying it can't turn a profit, I'm arguing it's bad business long term and the industry and consumers will suffer as a result.
Re: Shocking: Sony Doesn't Want Game Pass on PlayStation, Microsoft Has a Pop at PS Plus
@Fiendish-Beaver
Such games as Plague Tale 2 though can still get a lot of money via Sony purchases though. I'm not saying every Xbox fan uses GP and they will still buy games physically or digitally but if it goes straight onto GP and the money it gets from MS doesn't touch the sides (unlikely I think or they wouldn't do it) then they'll have a harder time recouping their costs.
Re: Shocking: Sony Doesn't Want Game Pass on PlayStation, Microsoft Has a Pop at PS Plus
@Somebody Yeah that's why I said GP is good for indie Devs. I'm in favour of a subscription service for indie Devs who want that exposure which in turn helps them build a brand and series. My issue is paying £1 per month and having access to games which cost hundreds of millions to create.
GP is working out great for some Devs, works out very well for MS in terms of getting up player numbers from their competition but for gamers? Maybe for a short term hit but you're starting to see the lack in quality in GP games already, give it a few more years and it'll only get worse.
Re: Shocking: Sony Doesn't Want Game Pass on PlayStation, Microsoft Has a Pop at PS Plus
@Fiendish-Beaver I'm not denying that GP hasn't brought a lot of people to Xbox, with its pricing I'd be surprised if it didn't.
No Dev is losing billions either but Xbox and its acquisitions are subsidised massively by MS, that's why my final point of Xbox being cut off from MS money would cause Xbox to dump GP because just like Sony it wouldn't be affordable.
Streaming services like GP are only affordable if the cash is coming from somewhere other than the subscribers as Netflix are finding out.
You also didn't confront the point about PS exclusives catalogue being way stronger than Xbox.
The reason for the malaise is GP. MS are losing the quality war so are doing what they do best, buying up all the Devs it can in order to strangle the competition. Monopolies aren't good long term for the consumer or the industry going forward.
Re: Shocking: Sony Doesn't Want Game Pass on PlayStation, Microsoft Has a Pop at PS Plus
@StylesT "The old its 'bad for the industry' arguement lol.... basically just a go to line of ps fanboys who dont want to be classed as fanboys because they think it makes them sound impartial"
So to counter the many well made and varied arguments as to why GP is a bad for the industry, your counter argument is to call them fanboys.
I think you make the "GP adherent = zealot" arguement for us.
Re: Shocking: Sony Doesn't Want Game Pass on PlayStation, Microsoft Has a Pop at PS Plus
@Fiendish-Beaver
Where do I start..
Most indie Devs probably want to be on GP for exposure at first, if you haven't spent much on your game (relatively speaking) but are unlikely to make much profit due to a crowded market then a lump sum from MS up front makes sense.
As for AAA games it all depends, if the Devs are under MS umbrella then they pretty much get subsidised on losses which in turn minimises risk, leading to stagnation of ideas, why bother working hard or innovating if you're going to get paid regardless?
For those Devs outside of MS remit, they'll want much bigger payments for GP first day access which fair enough MS can afford but doesn't mean it's a good practice.
The best evidence of what I've said above is the very few and lackluster titles Xbox have as flagship products. Sony could be doing more but the strength of its first party catalogue over Xbox speak for itself.
If Xbox was separated from MS and didn't have access to MS funding then the current GP model would be in the bin day one.