@SJBUK again, under normal circumstances, I would agree completely, but it just felt like Somy should have been more considerate in knowing how many people don't have the ps5 yet. Upgrade charges make sense normally, but at least for 2022, they should work harder to give loyal customers a break here.
Under normal circumstances, I would have no issue with charging more to upgrade. If people could simply go to Gamestop, take a ps5 off the shelf and buy it, there would be no problem. These aren't normal circumstances, though. A LOT of gamers may be stranded on ps4, maybe through 2022 even. It's not anyone's fault (except for the scalpers, who can die in a fire), so why punish gamers who want to buy your games but simply haven't been able to get their hands on a new system?
@Tchunga what the developers want ...is money. all i'm saying is that there are tons of companies who try to make a soulslike, and they usually don't sell very well. someone is going to say, "well let's have different difficulty levels", and their game probably will do well.
@SailorNemesis that's all i'm saying. i don't really have 100 hours to play anything anymore. i'm still playing dragon quest 11 because i have an hour here and there. i'm about halfway through Sekiro for the same reason. i don't even think the moment-to-moment gameplay needs to be easier. Just a mode where there are more bonfires would be fine lol
@Crimson_Ridley and that option should be there for people who like playing that way. most other games let people who just want to enjoy the lore or the story do so. i do think Soulsbornes games should be hard, i like them even if i don't finish them, they're very compelling. but someone (mark my words) will make one, simply OFFER THE OPTION of lower difficulty or more frequent bonfires, and make a ton of money. Jedi Fallen Order was a step in that direction, actually.
@Nepp67 "git gud" amirite? listen, as i said, i enjoy these games. that isn't my point. my point is that the company that makes a game like this that also offers an easier mode will find a very large audience of interested customers. i know almos as many people who are curious but won't try them (or in many cases, don't have the time to play the same levels 10 times each) as i do people willing to grind the games down bit by bit. some developer will realize that BOTH audiences can be served.
This game is going to go down as a cult classic. it's better than some people think it is, while also not being as good as other people think it is lol. i really like it, but for weird reasons like the mechanic where you have to remember to keep your bike gassed up, and you have to repair it from time to time. for some reason i find those mechanics very compelling.
one day, someone is going to make one of these games and have enough sense to simply include an easier mode (probably just more bonfires if nothing else). the "git gud" crowd will go nuts, but the game would VASTLY outsell the average numbers Soulsborne games usually do. These games have amazing universes and lore, but a lot of people are intimidated by the difficulty. i love these games, but because i suck i RARELY buy them.
i just don't believe that that many people are basing their decision on what some disinterested GameStop employee has to say. of course there will always be that odd "which one is better?" parent or grandparent, but for the most part, people know what they're there for when they walk in...
i still have a feeling that Sony is waiting to announce their answer to Game Pass pretty soon. just a feeling. it won't be the exact same thing, as their exclusives are far more central to their success, but Sony has to respond in SOME way.
@Stocksy Here's the difference: many people prefer PES to FIFA. if EA had their way, PES wouldn't exist. EA has no choice but to at least TRY TO MAKE FIFA better. Live isn't great, but if EA had their way (and they TRIED), NBA 2k wouldn't exist. if EA wants to get back into the basketball video game business, they would have to actually like...try to make a good game (which might explain why they aren't really making LIVE?). having a choice is ALWAYS better. the people who make Madden will just laugh as long as the drones just buy Madden anyway.
@Stocksy Competition is EXACTLY what EA and 2K need. While NBA 2K as a GAME is still excellent, not having another company making a competing product has definitely led them down a bad road as well. EA is just the WORST lol.
i don't understand why anyone is upset about this. i'll let you in on a little secret: if they could, Sony would put their games on the Xbox too. they would sell them to Switch owners, too. the PC market is still the largest segment of gamers in the world, and Microsoft is already perfectly fine with selling games to people wherever they are. Sony has always been a little more cautious, and is dipping their toe in as well. Nintendo will do the same, but much later, once they're CERTAIN there's a market there. the "You have to buy a $500 box to play our games" market is going to start shrinking more and more over the next few years. as long as we have great games to play, do you REALLY care?
lol whenever i see a story like this, i think back to when EA bought the NFL license, and all the Madden fans were super hyped....then i smile.
ok seriously, EA doesn't care, and won't until you guys actually stop buying the game. whining about it then lining up at Gamestop on release day isn't going to solve anything, and again, as long as they get your money, EA DOESN'T CARE.
....Sega didn't realize that lots of people would want to play Persona and other games from their massive back catalog outside of Sony fans? i love Sega, i truly am a huge fan, but MY GOD the way they do business lol
@Exlee300p well no of course not, it's much more likely to be a collection of legacy Playstation games (ps1-4), featuring especially rare games. Sony has such an unbelievably deep back catalog that being able to play the dozens of games you missed would be a good value.
@Exlee300p if Game Pass continues to do well, Sony is going to create a service JUST like it lol. Hell, they probably will announce changes to PS Now which will make it much more akin to Game Pass. 10 million subscribers is a lot, but Sony is probably aware it would have more, with a similar service dedicated to legacy Playstation games.
It's nearly August. We don't know how much it's going to cost, when we can preorder, what games it's launching with, or when it releases. Just like Microsoft, we've gotten little more than a ton of trailers, a little gameplay, and a bunch of "wait and see". This this is launching (probably? i don't know) in 3 MONTHS. the next event needs to be informative and SOON. there are going to be a lot of pissed off people if they wait much longer AND make it impossible to find a ps5 at launch...whenever that is.
i just realized i might be waiting for more game announcements. it's literally just Ratchet and Clank for me. I mean i suppose i'll buy Horizon, but not that much excited me, i guess.
Madden fans can share all the hashtags, write all the petitions, and complain ALL THEY WANT. EA cares bout exactly one thing: money. As long as the same people complaining about the game keep mindlessly buying the game, absolutely nothing will change. guess what? Madden 22 is going to be the same way. and guess what? it'll sell a ton, because Madden fans seem to think they HAVE to buy it. Only when sales numbers start to decline will EA actually give a crap what the gamers say. I always smile, because i was an NFL 2K fan, and i still remember the idiot Madden fans celebrating when they bought off the NFL. Congrats, winners!
My only concern is whether they are trying to build up anticipation, OR is there a problem? honestly, I've found Microsoft's approach more frustrating (here's the machine, yaaaay! huh? oh, no we're not going to show any actual gameplay until July. byeeee!)
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Re: Xbox Now Owns Legendary PlayStation Series Crash Bandicoot, Spyro the Dragon
@BranJ0 When did Phil say that?
Re: Twisted Metal PS5 Reboot Studio Swapped Mid-Development
i just want it to be good. Twisted Metal Black is one of my favorite games ever, as is TM2...
Re: Rumour: New PlayStation Subscription Will Give Access to PS1, PS2, PS3, PSP Games
@Jireland92 yes. they waited to see if it was economically viable, then pretty much just copied it.
Re: Cancelled Batman Game Concept Art Shows Old, Bearded Batman Alongside Younger Hero
why....in the world....would Batman ever wear a beard? like, imagine James Harden trying to be Batman lol. it'd be a BIT of a giveaway...
Re: Round Up: What Was Announced During Sony's Latest State of Play Livestream?
Death's Door is INCREDIBLE. Highly recommended!
Re: Soapbox: I Don't Know How to Feel About This PS4-to-PS5 Upgrade Uproar
@SJBUK again, under normal circumstances, I would agree completely, but it just felt like Somy should have been more considerate in knowing how many people don't have the ps5 yet. Upgrade charges make sense normally, but at least for 2022, they should work harder to give loyal customers a break here.
Re: Soapbox: I Don't Know How to Feel About This PS4-to-PS5 Upgrade Uproar
Under normal circumstances, I would have no issue with charging more to upgrade. If people could simply go to Gamestop, take a ps5 off the shelf and buy it, there would be no problem. These aren't normal circumstances, though. A LOT of gamers may be stranded on ps4, maybe through 2022 even. It's not anyone's fault (except for the scalpers, who can die in a fire), so why punish gamers who want to buy your games but simply haven't been able to get their hands on a new system?
Re: Talking Point: How Would You Improve PS Plus?
Add more games from the back catalog to PS Now, and make them downloadable, I would say
Re: PS Plus Collection Games Can Be Played on PS4 via PS5 Workaround
they should simply have made this first batch of games free for playstation plus members. why does everything have to be complicated ? lol
Re: Demon's Souls PS5 Doesn't Have Sixth Archstone, No Difficulty Modes
@Tchunga what the developers want ...is money. all i'm saying is that there are tons of companies who try to make a soulslike, and they usually don't sell very well. someone is going to say, "well let's have different difficulty levels", and their game probably will do well.
Re: Demon's Souls PS5 Doesn't Have Sixth Archstone, No Difficulty Modes
@SailorNemesis that's all i'm saying. i don't really have 100 hours to play anything anymore. i'm still playing dragon quest 11 because i have an hour here and there. i'm about halfway through Sekiro for the same reason. i don't even think the moment-to-moment gameplay needs to be easier. Just a mode where there are more bonfires would be fine lol
Re: Demon's Souls PS5 Doesn't Have Sixth Archstone, No Difficulty Modes
@Crimson_Ridley and that option should be there for people who like playing that way. most other games let people who just want to enjoy the lore or the story do so. i do think Soulsbornes games should be hard, i like them even if i don't finish them, they're very compelling. but someone (mark my words) will make one, simply OFFER THE OPTION of lower difficulty or more frequent bonfires, and make a ton of money. Jedi Fallen Order was a step in that direction, actually.
Re: Demon's Souls PS5 Doesn't Have Sixth Archstone, No Difficulty Modes
@Nepp67 "git gud" amirite? listen, as i said, i enjoy these games. that isn't my point. my point is that the company that makes a game like this that also offers an easier mode will find a very large audience of interested customers. i know almos as many people who are curious but won't try them (or in many cases, don't have the time to play the same levels 10 times each) as i do people willing to grind the games down bit by bit. some developer will realize that BOTH audiences can be served.
Re: Days Gone Gets Huge 25GB Update Ahead of PS5
This game is going to go down as a cult classic. it's better than some people think it is, while also not being as good as other people think it is lol. i really like it, but for weird reasons like the mechanic where you have to remember to keep your bike gassed up, and you have to repair it from time to time. for some reason i find those mechanics very compelling.
Re: Demon's Souls PS5 Doesn't Have Sixth Archstone, No Difficulty Modes
one day, someone is going to make one of these games and have enough sense to simply include an easier mode (probably just more bonfires if nothing else). the "git gud" crowd will go nuts, but the game would VASTLY outsell the average numbers Soulsborne games usually do. These games have amazing universes and lore, but a lot of people are intimidated by the difficulty. i love these games, but because i suck i RARELY buy them.
Re: PS5 Unboxings Reveal the Hardware in the Flesh
@Mostik it didn't appear to be on the stand yet.
Re: Don't Be Surprised if GameStop Push Xbox Series S|X Harder Than PS5
i just don't believe that that many people are basing their decision on what some disinterested GameStop employee has to say. of course there will always be that odd "which one is better?" parent or grandparent, but for the most part, people know what they're there for when they walk in...
Re: PS5 Price May Dip Below $400, Analyst Speculates
@wiiware they will be nearly impossible to get lol, most of us will be getting them in the spring probably
Re: You'll Still Have to Pay for EA Play Independently on PS5, PS4
i still have a feeling that Sony is waiting to announce their answer to Game Pass pretty soon. just a feeling. it won't be the exact same thing, as their exclusives are far more central to their success, but Sony has to respond in SOME way.
Re: Madden NFL 21 Patch Outlined as Fans Urge NFL to Ditch EA Sports
@Stocksy Here's the difference: many people prefer PES to FIFA. if EA had their way, PES wouldn't exist. EA has no choice but to at least TRY TO MAKE FIFA better. Live isn't great, but if EA had their way (and they TRIED), NBA 2k wouldn't exist. if EA wants to get back into the basketball video game business, they would have to actually like...try to make a good game (which might explain why they aren't really making LIVE?). having a choice is ALWAYS better. the people who make Madden will just laugh as long as the drones just buy Madden anyway.
Re: Madden NFL 21 Patch Outlined as Fans Urge NFL to Ditch EA Sports
@Stocksy Competition is EXACTLY what EA and 2K need. While NBA 2K as a GAME is still excellent, not having another company making a competing product has definitely led them down a bad road as well. EA is just the WORST lol.
Re: Madden NFL 21 Patch Outlined as Fans Urge NFL to Ditch EA Sports
"EA doesn't seem to understand"....
THEY. DON'T. CARE. until people stop buying, they couldn't care less if the game is any good. we'll be reading this same article in 5 years .
Re: Don't Panic, But More PlayStation Exclusives Will Come to PC
i don't understand why anyone is upset about this. i'll let you in on a little secret: if they could, Sony would put their games on the Xbox too. they would sell them to Switch owners, too. the PC market is still the largest segment of gamers in the world, and Microsoft is already perfectly fine with selling games to people wherever they are. Sony has always been a little more cautious, and is dipping their toe in as well. Nintendo will do the same, but much later, once they're CERTAIN there's a market there. the "You have to buy a $500 box to play our games" market is going to start shrinking more and more over the next few years. as long as we have great games to play, do you REALLY care?
Re: Madden NFL 21 Sparks Fresh #FixMaddenFranchise Campaign
lol whenever i see a story like this, i think back to when EA bought the NFL license, and all the Madden fans were super hyped....then i smile.
ok seriously, EA doesn't care, and won't until you guys actually stop buying the game. whining about it then lining up at Gamestop on release day isn't going to solve anything, and again, as long as they get your money, EA DOESN'T CARE.
Re: Marvel’s Avengers Trailer Proves Sony Aren't the Only Bad Guys
@Shepherd_Tallon Third Tomb Raider game was so...weird. looked good, played well...i couldn't finish it. it was boring or something. just a slog...
Re: A Bunch More PS5 Box Art Has Emerged
@Old-Red i can't wait for the hardware revision lol, HAS to look better.
Re: A Bunch More PS5 Box Art Has Emerged
i don't know why, but i've always hated the blue boxes, i just thought they looked silly.
Re: SEGA Looking to Port More Games Following Persona 4 Golden PC Success
so....
....Sega didn't realize that lots of people would want to play Persona and other games from their massive back catalog outside of Sony fans? i love Sega, i truly am a huge fan, but MY GOD the way they do business lol
Re: Soapbox: Sony's Next PS5 Showcase Needs to Be a Scorcher
@Exlee300p well no of course not, it's much more likely to be a collection of legacy Playstation games (ps1-4), featuring especially rare games. Sony has such an unbelievably deep back catalog that being able to play the dozens of games you missed would be a good value.
Re: Soapbox: Sony's Next PS5 Showcase Needs to Be a Scorcher
@Exlee300p if Game Pass continues to do well, Sony is going to create a service JUST like it lol. Hell, they probably will announce changes to PS Now which will make it much more akin to Game Pass. 10 million subscribers is a lot, but Sony is probably aware it would have more, with a similar service dedicated to legacy Playstation games.
Re: Soapbox: Sony's Next PS5 Showcase Needs to Be a Scorcher
It's nearly August. We don't know how much it's going to cost, when we can preorder, what games it's launching with, or when it releases. Just like Microsoft, we've gotten little more than a ton of trailers, a little gameplay, and a bunch of "wait and see". This this is launching (probably? i don't know) in 3 MONTHS. the next event needs to be informative and SOON. there are going to be a lot of pissed off people if they wait much longer AND make it impossible to find a ps5 at launch...whenever that is.
Re: Poll: What New PS5 Games Are You Most Excited About?
i just realized i might be waiting for more game announcements. it's literally just Ratchet and Clank for me. I mean i suppose i'll buy Horizon, but not that much excited me, i guess.
Re: Madden NFL 21 Devs Comment As #FixMaddenFranchise Trends
Madden fans can share all the hashtags, write all the petitions, and complain ALL THEY WANT. EA cares bout exactly one thing: money. As long as the same people complaining about the game keep mindlessly buying the game, absolutely nothing will change. guess what? Madden 22 is going to be the same way. and guess what? it'll sell a ton, because Madden fans seem to think they HAVE to buy it. Only when sales numbers start to decline will EA actually give a crap what the gamers say. I always smile, because i was an NFL 2K fan, and i still remember the idiot Madden fans celebrating when they bought off the NFL. Congrats, winners!
Re: Poll: Are You Happy with the Way Sony Is Handling the PS5 Reveal?
My only concern is whether they are trying to build up anticipation, OR is there a problem? honestly, I've found Microsoft's approach more frustrating (here's the machine, yaaaay! huh? oh, no we're not going to show any actual gameplay until July. byeeee!)