@Sil_Am PlayTracker says steam sales are 162.9k but I think they tend to undertrack early in the lifecycle. However, VG Insights says 195.2k and they tend to overtrack.
Sony could do what ever they want raise game prices to $100
This is a common misconception but that absolutely wouldn't happen. The competitive market for software on PlayStation would be increasing in competition, with the inclusion of MS games, not decreasing.
Sony can only set the prices of first party games, which is a tiny part of the market. The biggest competitors for Sonys games are other PlayStation games, not games on xbox hardware.
This will be an interesting story as FromSoft has kind of a mythic reputation in many places but in reality their known as a really terrible employer who nurtures a massive crunch environment and pays staff less than any other game developer in Tokyo.
I had an alternate pitch for breaking bad where walter white dies after a couple of seasons and we follow the rest of the show from the viewpoint of his killer. Never understood why it didn't take off
That’s Literally the plot of Game of Thrones. It was the biggest show on tv for like half a decade. Maybe you missed it?
People still don’t seem to get that Remedy games do not have a big player base on PlayStation. Reminder: Alan Wake was published by Microsoft, the first time it was ever available on a PlayStation device was 2021, the vast majority of PS only players will have never played Alan Wake. Additionally, Control was the first ever Remedy game to be available on PlayStation day one, and the first Remedy game to be on PS at all since Max Payne 2 in 2003.
Control never made the 20 games on PSN, in either territory, for even a single month. Alan Wake II has been in the top 20 for the last 3 months in both NA and Europe. That’s massive progress.
People just don't understand the console market in Japan now, the "Japanese games" weren't even selling well, games like Gravity rush 2 and the Last Guardian did absolute rubbish in Japan.
At the end of year wrap it showed the top 5 games per territory and Japan was Apex Legends, Genshin Impact and 3 other free to play games I forget.
There was a Sony sideshow In Japan last year at a conference for third party developers and it showed various stats by region and Japan was actually the region with the highest spend per account. Despite buying roughly half as many games as the average American player. The average time spent per games was more than double though.
I. E. PS players in Japan just play tons of free to play gacha games and spend tons of money and time on each one.
Ironically Sony already had a mobile game the generated over $1b a year, Fate/Grand Order. It’s made by aniplex which comes under Sony Music, not SIE though.
In other cases it's just price - I managed to get Control: Ultimate Edition at a stupidly cheap price on Series X which also gives you crossgen One version too, and it took a long time for the PS5 version to get close to what I paid - £10.49 in 2021 apparently. There's not as much in Control: UE between the two consoles and in fact I think the Series X suffers a bit in places where the PS5 doesn't, but money talks eh?
This is a pretty terrible example as Control Ultimate Edition launched day one as a PS Plus(old PS plus basic, keep forever) game.
Also I just checked the price tracking websites and Control Ultimate edition on PS5 was £9.84 on PSN at the end of 2021 at the same time it was £10.49 on Xbox. Also, it’s been as low as £8.24 on psn but never below £10.49 on Xbox.
You also can buy discounted credit for PSN and save another ~14% very easily whereas credit for Xbox is never discounted(you can buy game keys from key websites instead though).
@GamingFan4Lyf That one of the biggest games of last year launched without DLSS and it's not as uncommon as you might expect. Some games are sponsored by certain companies too.
@Kienda Xbox series X was on sale in the UK at around £359-369 from about 2 weeks before Black Friday all the way until Yesterday. It was only briefly not officially discounted for small periods in the middle of that timeframe.
@get2sammyb Xbox series X was £359 and PS5 was straight-up RRP, with some sites doing a minor retail discount on the disc version to £469.99.
It was a pretty bold move honestly, and the sales numbers reflect that. I’m not sure what the UK November/December sales normally are but for the PS4 worldwide December was generally around 20% up on November. So these sales are not great.
@Member_the_game There already was another PS Plus sale after that one(black Friday was 25% and not working for many people). The next one was 30% off(at least for Extra) and I think for everybody. The sale didn't get mentioned on any of these sites though and didn't appear on the PS store front page, was kinda odd. I think it only lasted like 5 days too.
So let’s check out this comment section. A bunch of people being super negative, check. Some entitled dude saying it should be free, check. Some guy using “Woke” as an insult, check.
@Paramahansa TLOU pt.II Remastered has been the number 1 pre-ordered game on PSN in my region since the day it went up for pre-order. It’s ahead of Tekken, Like a Dragon, FFVII Rebirth, DD2 etc. This doesn’t include upgrades either.
The number 2 game currently is Suicide Squad Deluxe Edition(£99.99).
The reality of the world is generally very different than what video game websites might imply.
@Mikey856 the sale were never officially stated beyond 2m for Bloodborne and I don't think Days Gone were ever officially revealed. However the Insomniac leak revealed both as of February 2022(or maybe it was 2023) and sales at that time on PS4 were:
Bloodborne - 7.648m
Days Gone - 7.238m
However it should also be noted that Bloodborne is a beloved game that has a 92 on metacritic and Days Gone was a 71. Additionally Days Gone took 6 years of development time and cost and Bloodborne was around 3 years developed concurrently with DS2 so only about half the studio.
Days Gone sales are really not that bad though, and fan feedback is quite positive. I definitely think the relationship with the game directors was the key problem.
@themightyant There's a race with a tail, but they're descendants of Devils. Some of the races have some animal like features I guess you could say, but they're fairly typical high fantasy style races, not like FF Viera or something.
@themightyant For clarification, there’s no anthropomorphic races(unless I’m forgetting something) but the standard DnD class Druid allows you to shift into animal forms. For some reason one of the relationships gives you the option to do it with the Druid in their shifted form. Larian are quite famous for being fun and ridiculous(i actually find the divinity games are not serious enough and find them quite silly at times) and i think this is mainly intended as a goofball joke. Im fairly sure some players are really into it though…
Yes, it’s one of the best ever but probably won’t be fully recognised by the masses until about 2040 as people just absolutely love being miserable AF right now.
Would be my number 3, but a perfectly legitimate 1.
I suspect a lot of the people moaning about it being below AW2 and BG3 haven’t even played those games considering neither has sold sensationally on PS5.
If spider-man 2 being Goty makes you angry then that’s a you problem, not a them problem. You probably should work on yourself a little bit, try to be a better more likeable person that has positive human interactions more often.
A vocal minority of people seem to really hate SM2 and aggressively talk down about it at every opportunity, yet all visible metrics show that the game is very well liked by an incredibly high percentage of people that play it.
Spider-man 2 is an absolutely brilliant game for me BTW. An incredible joy to play from the first minute until the last, as time just flies past. I'd put it in the top 3 for the year.
No I don't think this is matter of overlooking. It's just a matter of being objective enough to acknowledge that Spider Boy was just ok, and a largely forgotten shortly after release primarily due to the fact that it just didn't stand out due to that safe iterative nature of these sequel factories ps studios is stuck in
You don’t understand what objective means. You’re presenting your own subjective opinion as fact. It’s not.
Some actual facts now. Spider-man 2 is not “largely forgotten” it is still one of the best selling games in basically every country in the world right now. It has a 90 OpenCritic score from 161 professional critic reviews. It is the highest rated PS5 game on PSN with over 60k reviews. It has the highest user score on metacritic of every game released on PS5 with a score of 90 from 7k+ reviews.Before Christmas Day it had a 60% completion rate for the main story, the highest I’ve ever seen on PSN.
All of these individually might not tell the complete story but taken collectively they are the closest thing to an objective opinion on the game that we have. The game is well loved by critics, and fans and more people played it to completion than pretty much any other game.
People should really not engage with this HonestTruth chap, he’s either a straight-up troll or has an extremely low IQ and probably learning difficulties.
That’s actually a low estimate, I’d be surprised if it’s not in the 23-25m range based on current sales estimates to November. Although they don’t seem to be doing any December discounts at all, not in the UK anyway.
I think people are missing a key point with Alan Wake 2, that a digital copy at 20% off will make more money for Epic/Remedy than a physical copy at full price. The ability to discount early is probably factored into the all digital route. Official discounting on a physical product is pretty grim when your margins are already terrible but digital only allows a lot of flexibility.
@NotSoCryptic Found not guilty is not the same as innocent. In a criminal conviction you need to prove guilt beyond all reasonable doubt. That’s not the bar a private business needs to pass to make decisions on how best to run their business.
He’s involved in a highly dodgy charity organisation, ostensibly the one running the whole thing. That’s enough, I wouldn’t want anything to do with him in a professional capacity and private organisations are free to make their own decisions over who they associate with and how they run their business. You saying they shouldn’t do that is tantamount to taking away from them their freedom of speech(and freedom of actions).
@MikeOrator The game has huge urban areas and lots of npcs and traditional side quests. That is not soulslike at all, I’m sure it’s just a penalty on death and maybe something similar to bonfires.
@UltimateOtaku91 The game has difficulty options according to the leak(which was 100% accurate, even said release Q1 2024 and pictures of the map, UI etc.)
David Jaffe proving that he doesn’t understand what human growth actually is, probably because he’s never experienced a single moment of growth in his entire life, which is why he’s a bitter old clown making podcasts about video games that other people are making.
@themightyant most charities are run 365 days a year and have proper admin staff, so that is why they cost a lot to run.
I’m not sure how much work this charity does all year around but I believe it is mostly an online drive with people volunteering their time. I don’t see many costs there at all, but I might be misunderstanding and they do lots of local work as well.
But it's not like it was a scam and he ran off with the money, they have now donated $600,000 to dementia research
The revenue that they self declared is over 750k. It’s not like they made 600k and 600k just sat in an account.
From a simple search of their filings I can see they’ve declared expenses of around 125k in the last 9 years. Almost every expense is listed as “other expense”.
So that’s 125k to “expenses” while 0 was given to charities before they got rumbled.
This is before you even take into account the fact that it’s very likely they were underdeclaring revenue as even simple maths makes it look bad for them. They were basically declaring the official number from their big charity drive as the total revenue while everything else is seemingly generating zero revenue(can’t state categorically that it’s a lie but it obviously very likely a lie)
Total revenue is probably closer to a million if I were to purely guess. They’ve skimmed a bunch of that through incorrect declarations and then legally skimmed a bunch more through “expenses”.
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Re: Persona 3 Reload Is Atlus' Fastest Selling Game Ever
@Sil_Am PlayTracker says steam sales are 162.9k but I think they tend to undertrack early in the lifecycle. However, VG Insights says 195.2k and they tend to overtrack.
Probably somewhere in the 150-300k region for PC.
Re: PS5, PS4 First-Party Devs Won't Get Complacent Even if Competition Degrades
@trev666
This is a common misconception but that absolutely wouldn't happen. The competitive market for software on PlayStation would be increasing in competition, with the inclusion of MS games, not decreasing.
Sony can only set the prices of first party games, which is a tiny part of the market. The biggest competitors for Sonys games are other PlayStation games, not games on xbox hardware.
Re: Elden Ring Is Allegedly Getting a Smartphone Adaptation
This will be an interesting story as FromSoft has kind of a mythic reputation in many places but in reality their known as a really terrible employer who nurtures a massive crunch environment and pays staff less than any other game developer in Tokyo.
Re: UK Sales Charts: Suicide Squad Swings Past Persona 3 Reload for Number One Debut
For reference, Guardians of the Galaxy was a massive bomb(relative to its budget)
Re: Friendly Fire at the Core of Helldivers 2, All for a Good Laugh and Chaos
@IAmAshCohen17 Tuesday 17:00 GMT(that’s 12:00 ET I believe)
Edit: apparently this isn’t a confirmed time, just as “estimated time” whatever the hell that means. Probably nonsense then.
Re: The Last of Us 3 Probably Happening at Some Point in the Future
@atthegates
That’s Literally the plot of Game of Thrones. It was the biggest show on tv for like half a decade. Maybe you missed it?
Re: Until Dawn PS5, PC Will Boast Fresh Locations and an All-New Camera
Is there a single example in the history of video games where a game was completely rebuilt in a new engine and had a free or cheap upgrade option?
Re: Fans Outraged at Rocksteady's Handling of Hero Deaths in Suicide Squad: Kill the Justice League
Strong male character gets killed by a woman and the internet goes crazy, who could have saw that coming?
Re: Spanish Sales of PS Portal Are Gaining on PSVR2
Are there actual restocks of this as it does not appear to have ever been available in the UK after initially selling out.
Re: Until Dawn Reportedly Set to Receive New PS5, PC Versions
@__jamiie Until Dawn is owned by Sony in totality, they registered the trademarks for the title.
Re: Hogwarts Legacy Beats Modern Warfare 3, Spider-Man 2 as Most Downloaded PS5 Game of 2023
People still don’t seem to get that Remedy games do not have a big player base on PlayStation. Reminder: Alan Wake was published by Microsoft, the first time it was ever available on a PlayStation device was 2021, the vast majority of PS only players will have never played Alan Wake. Additionally, Control was the first ever Remedy game to be available on PlayStation day one, and the first Remedy game to be on PS at all since Max Payne 2 in 2003.
Control never made the 20 games on PSN, in either territory, for even a single month. Alan Wake II has been in the top 20 for the last 3 months in both NA and Europe. That’s massive progress.
Re: PS5 Had Sony's Best Year in Japan for Almost 20 Years
People just don't understand the console market in Japan now, the "Japanese games" weren't even selling well, games like Gravity rush 2 and the Last Guardian did absolute rubbish in Japan.
At the end of year wrap it showed the top 5 games per territory and Japan was Apex Legends, Genshin Impact and 3 other free to play games I forget.
There was a Sony sideshow In Japan last year at a conference for third party developers and it showed various stats by region and Japan was actually the region with the highest spend per account. Despite buying roughly half as many games as the average American player. The average time spent per games was more than double though.
I. E. PS players in Japan just play tons of free to play gacha games and spend tons of money and time on each one.
Re: Here's Why Sony Is Making Big Moves in the Mobile Games Sector
Ironically Sony already had a mobile game the generated over $1b a year, Fate/Grand Order. It’s made by aniplex which comes under Sony Music, not SIE though.
Re: Sounds Like Sony's Next State of Play Livestream Isn't Far Away
@zekepliskin
This is a pretty terrible example as Control Ultimate Edition launched day one as a PS Plus(old PS plus basic, keep forever) game.
Also I just checked the price tracking websites and Control Ultimate edition on PS5 was £9.84 on PSN at the end of 2021 at the same time it was £10.49 on Xbox. Also, it’s been as low as £8.24 on psn but never below £10.49 on Xbox.
You also can buy discounted credit for PSN and save another ~14% very easily whereas credit for Xbox is never discounted(you can buy game keys from key websites instead though).
Re: Horizon Forbidden West on PC Getting Gorgeous DLSS 3 Support
@GamingFan4Lyf That one of the biggest games of last year launched without DLSS and it's not as uncommon as you might expect. Some games are sponsored by certain companies too.
Re: Horizon Forbidden West on PC Getting Gorgeous DLSS 3 Support
@GamingFan4Lyf It took Starfield 3 months to get DLSS officially supported.
Re: PS5's UK Sales End 2023 Down by 19%, But Still the Leading Console
@Kienda Xbox series X was on sale in the UK at around £359-369 from about 2 weeks before Black Friday all the way until Yesterday. It was only briefly not officially discounted for small periods in the middle of that timeframe.
Re: PS5's UK Sales End 2023 Down by 19%, But Still the Leading Console
@get2sammyb Xbox series X was £359 and PS5 was straight-up RRP, with some sites doing a minor retail discount on the disc version to £469.99.
It was a pretty bold move honestly, and the sales numbers reflect that. I’m not sure what the UK November/December sales normally are but for the PS4 worldwide December was generally around 20% up on November. So these sales are not great.
Re: The Last of Us 2 Remastered's No Return Mode 'Not Recommended for Weak Hearts', Warns Dev
@Old-Red by your own definition didn’t you just do the very thing you’re trying to mock? Bit awkward there, lad.
Re: Deals: PlayStation Direct Slashes Prices of Games and Accessories in January Sale (UK)
@Member_the_game There already was another PS Plus sale after that one(black Friday was 25% and not working for many people). The next one was 30% off(at least for Extra) and I think for everybody. The sale didn't get mentioned on any of these sites though and didn't appear on the PS store front page, was kinda odd. I think it only lasted like 5 days too.
Re: GTA 5's Michael Voice Actor a Big Fan of GTA 6 Protagonist: 'Lucia's Hard, Man'
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Re: GTA 5's Michael Voice Actor a Big Fan of GTA 6 Protagonist: 'Lucia's Hard, Man'
@Mikey856 it's literally nothing to do with what anyone said
Re: GTA 5's Michael Voice Actor a Big Fan of GTA 6 Protagonist: 'Lucia's Hard, Man'
@Mikey856 literally nothing to do with what he said
Re: GTA 5's Michael Voice Actor a Big Fan of GTA 6 Protagonist: 'Lucia's Hard, Man'
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Re: The Last of Us 2 Remastered's No Return Mode 'Not Recommended for Weak Hearts', Warns Dev
So let’s check out this comment section. A bunch of people being super negative, check. Some entitled dude saying it should be free, check. Some guy using “Woke” as an insult, check.
Classic PushSquare right here.
Re: Push Square Readers' 20 Most Anticipated PS5 Games of 2024
@Paramahansa TLOU pt.II Remastered has been the number 1 pre-ordered game on PSN in my region since the day it went up for pre-order. It’s ahead of Tekken, Like a Dragon, FFVII Rebirth, DD2 etc. This doesn’t include upgrades either.
The number 2 game currently is Suicide Squad Deluxe Edition(£99.99).
The reality of the world is generally very different than what video game websites might imply.
Re: Days Gone Dev on New PS5 Exclusive: We're Cooking
@Mikey856 the sale were never officially stated beyond 2m for Bloodborne and I don't think Days Gone were ever officially revealed. However the Insomniac leak revealed both as of February 2022(or maybe it was 2023) and sales at that time on PS4 were:
Bloodborne - 7.648m
Days Gone - 7.238m
However it should also be noted that Bloodborne is a beloved game that has a 92 on metacritic and Days Gone was a 71. Additionally Days Gone took 6 years of development time and cost and Bloodborne was around 3 years developed concurrently with DS2 so only about half the studio.
Days Gone sales are really not that bad though, and fan feedback is quite positive. I definitely think the relationship with the game directors was the key problem.
Re: Days Gone Dev on New PS5 Exclusive: We're Cooking
@Mikey856 What gulf in sales exactly?
Re: Game of the Year: Push Square Readers' Top 10 PS5, PS4 Games of 2023
@themightyant There's a race with a tail, but they're descendants of Devils. Some of the races have some animal like features I guess you could say, but they're fairly typical high fantasy style races, not like FF Viera or something.
Re: Game of the Year: Push Square Readers' Top 10 PS5, PS4 Games of 2023
@themightyant For clarification, there’s no anthropomorphic races(unless I’m forgetting something) but the standard DnD class Druid allows you to shift into animal forms. For some reason one of the relationships gives you the option to do it with the Druid in their shifted form. Larian are quite famous for being fun and ridiculous(i actually find the divinity games are not serious enough and find them quite silly at times) and i think this is mainly intended as a goofball joke. Im fairly sure some players are really into it though…
Re: Poll: Was 2023 One of the Best Ever Years for New Game Releases?
Yes, it’s one of the best ever but probably won’t be fully recognised by the masses until about 2040 as people just absolutely love being miserable AF right now.
Re: Game of the Year: #1 - Marvel's Spider-Man 2
Btw Spider-man 2 won the IGN community award, which is the biggest all format gaming site in the world. Think about that guys…
Re: Game of the Year: #1 - Marvel's Spider-Man 2
Would be my number 3, but a perfectly legitimate 1.
I suspect a lot of the people moaning about it being below AW2 and BG3 haven’t even played those games considering neither has sold sensationally on PS5.
Re: Game of the Year: #2 - Baldur's Gate 3
If spider-man 2 being Goty makes you angry then that’s a you problem, not a them problem. You probably should work on yourself a little bit, try to be a better more likeable person that has positive human interactions more often.
Re: Game of the Year: Top 10 PS5, PS4 Soundtracks of 2023
Huh…interesting…
Re: Game of the Year: #3 - Resident Evil 4
A vocal minority of people seem to really hate SM2 and aggressively talk down about it at every opportunity, yet all visible metrics show that the game is very well liked by an incredibly high percentage of people that play it.
Spider-man 2 is an absolutely brilliant game for me BTW. An incredible joy to play from the first minute until the last, as time just flies past. I'd put it in the top 3 for the year.
Re: Game of the Year: #4 - Alan Wake 2
@KundaliniRising333
You don’t understand what objective means. You’re presenting your own subjective opinion as fact. It’s not.
Some actual facts now. Spider-man 2 is not “largely forgotten” it is still one of the best selling games in basically every country in the world right now. It has a 90 OpenCritic score from 161 professional critic reviews. It is the highest rated PS5 game on PSN with over 60k reviews. It has the highest user score on metacritic of every game released on PS5 with a score of 90 from 7k+ reviews.Before Christmas Day it had a 60% completion rate for the main story, the highest I’ve ever seen on PSN.
All of these individually might not tell the complete story but taken collectively they are the closest thing to an objective opinion on the game that we have. The game is well loved by critics, and fans and more people played it to completion than pretty much any other game.
Re: Game of the Year: #4 - Alan Wake 2
So BG3, SM2 and RE4 as the top 3? Not bad. I was afraid they might try to sneak Like a Dragon Gaiden in the top 5 😂
Re: Game of the Year: Best PS5, PS4 Story Game of 2023
Like a Dragon Gaiden being higher than Alan Wake 2 is practically a crime against humanity
Re: Sony Officially Confirms PS5 Has Passed the 50 Million Units Milestone
People should really not engage with this HonestTruth chap, he’s either a straight-up troll or has an extremely low IQ and probably learning difficulties.
Re: Analysts Peg PS5's 2023 Sales at Around 22.5 Million Units Worldwide
That’s actually a low estimate, I’d be surprised if it’s not in the 23-25m range based on current sales estimates to November. Although they don’t seem to be doing any December discounts at all, not in the UK anyway.
Re: Nearly 5,000 PS5, PS4 Games Discounted in Colossal Christmas Sale
I think people are missing a key point with Alan Wake 2, that a digital copy at 20% off will make more money for Epic/Remedy than a physical copy at full price. The ability to discount early is probably factored into the all digital route. Official discounting on a physical product is pretty grim when your margins are already terrible but digital only allows a lot of flexibility.
Re: Sea of Stars Replaces 'The Completionist' NPC Following Fraud Allegations
@NotSoCryptic Found not guilty is not the same as innocent. In a criminal conviction you need to prove guilt beyond all reasonable doubt. That’s not the bar a private business needs to pass to make decisions on how best to run their business.
He’s involved in a highly dodgy charity organisation, ostensibly the one running the whole thing. That’s enough, I wouldn’t want anything to do with him in a professional capacity and private organisations are free to make their own decisions over who they associate with and how they run their business. You saying they shouldn’t do that is tantamount to taking away from them their freedom of speech(and freedom of actions).
Re: God of War Creator Says Kratos Has Lost His Way
This is what a dumb person trying to appear clever looks like.
Re: Rise of the Ronin Preview Details Open World, Moral Choices, Combat, More
@MikeOrator The game has huge urban areas and lots of npcs and traditional side quests. That is not soulslike at all, I’m sure it’s just a penalty on death and maybe something similar to bonfires.
Re: Rise of the Ronin Preview Details Open World, Moral Choices, Combat, More
@UltimateOtaku91 The game has difficulty options according to the leak(which was 100% accurate, even said release Q1 2024 and pictures of the map, UI etc.)
Re: Rise of the Ronin Preview Details Open World, Moral Choices, Combat, More
This is really sounding great, i think it could be one of the surprise GoTY contenders for 2024.
Re: God of War Creator Says Kratos Has Lost His Way
David Jaffe proving that he doesn’t understand what human growth actually is, probably because he’s never experienced a single moment of growth in his entire life, which is why he’s a bitter old clown making podcasts about video games that other people are making.
Re: Sea of Stars Replaces 'The Completionist' NPC Following Fraud Allegations
@themightyant most charities are run 365 days a year and have proper admin staff, so that is why they cost a lot to run.
I’m not sure how much work this charity does all year around but I believe it is mostly an online drive with people volunteering their time. I don’t see many costs there at all, but I might be misunderstanding and they do lots of local work as well.
Re: Sea of Stars Replaces 'The Completionist' NPC Following Fraud Allegations
@themightyant
The revenue that they self declared is over 750k. It’s not like they made 600k and 600k just sat in an account.
From a simple search of their filings I can see they’ve declared expenses of around 125k in the last 9 years. Almost every expense is listed as “other expense”.
So that’s 125k to “expenses” while 0 was given to charities before they got rumbled.
This is before you even take into account the fact that it’s very likely they were underdeclaring revenue as even simple maths makes it look bad for them. They were basically declaring the official number from their big charity drive as the total revenue while everything else is seemingly generating zero revenue(can’t state categorically that it’s a lie but it obviously very likely a lie)
Total revenue is probably closer to a million if I were to purely guess. They’ve skimmed a bunch of that through incorrect declarations and then legally skimmed a bunch more through “expenses”.