ChrisDeku

@GamingFan4Lyf Comparing the upcoming schedules just doesn’t work because they have totally different announcement schedules.

These were the games featured in the PS5 and Xbox Series X/S reveal shows in the middle of 2020:

PlayStation 5
Astro’s Playroom - Released(Nov 2020)
Demon’s Souls - Released(Nov 2020)
Spider-Man: Miles Morales - Released(Nov 2020)
Sackboy’s Big Adventure - Released(Nov 2020)
Destruction All-Stars Released (Feb 2021)
Returnal - Released (April 2021)
Ratchet & Clank Released(June 2021)
Kena: Bridge of spirits(not actually published by Sony but funded and supported since Oct 2017) - Released(Sep 2021)
Horizon: Fobidden West - Released(Feb 2022)
Gran Turismo 7 - Released(Mar 2022)

Xbox
Halo: Infinite - Released(Dec 2021)
State of Decay 3 - Unreleased/No date
Forza Motorsport - Released(Oct 2023)
Avowed - Unreleased/ “2024”
Everwild - Unreleased/No date
HellBlade 2 - Unreleased/ “2024”
Fable - Unreleased/No date
As Dusk Falls - Released(July 2022)

@Casco Not really, was more cautioning you not to be hyped for games that might have no release date in 3 years time, but I guess you should just do you

@Casco Yeah, but Blade and OD are literally years away and the videos showed basically nothing.

@Casco People still buying into Microsoft’s nonsense with trailers for games 3+ years away and Hellblade 2 with no release date 5 years after its initial reveal trailer

For reference here’s the list of MS published Series X games shown at the original console reveal 3.5 years ago:

Halo: Infinite - Released(Dec 2021)
State of Decay 3 - Unreleased/No date
Forza Motorsport - Released(Oct 2023)
Everwild - Unreleased/No date
Avowed - Unreleased/ “2024”
HellBlade 2 - Unreleased/ “2024”
Fable - Unreleased/No date
As Dusk Falls - Released(July 2022)

So PlayStation Studios now have 2 published games with dates for Q1 in the “year of no games”

@Nem Yeah this is a late game mission that you can only do once you’ve unlocked Origin as a destination, the very end of the game.

@Nem So this takes place during the time skip but you’re running around with Joshua, who you don’t even meet again until way after the time skip, right?

I totally thought that was Gwendoline Christie in the picture…

@Th3solution actually the 4th game is Lost Soul Aside which I believe was stated as 2024 in the recent Chinese event where it had a playable Demo. I didn’t count DS2 since its still largely unknown.

Compared to the PS4 era, PS5's exclusive games portfolio is quite reduced, even though it's already.... 3 years old O_o

People say this a lot but it's absolutely not true, the first 3 years of PS4 were fairly weak compared to the following 4 years. Also one of the biggest games of that 3 year period was Bloodborne which they count as a first party game then ignore that Sony are publishing like 4 games next year developed by third party companies and claim they don't count.

@naruball that actually works out at 11 hours per player in character creation screen(20% completion rate on steam x 1.3M completed gives sales number of 6.5M players roughly). I’m kind of suspicious of that number to be honest 😅

Occam's Razor suggests this is just some account glitch rather than an overt malicious act from Sony

I’m pretty sure that’s not what occam’s Razor suggests at all.

When random people on the internet get banned from things the most likely scenario is that these people probably done something they weren’t meant to.

@HonestHick According to NPD data the American video game market in 2005 was worth $10.5b and in 2021 it reached $60b, and in 2022 it was $57b after coming down from the pandemic boost.

@HonestHick 400% increase in Yen is a 400% increase in dollars, just different numbers.

PlayStation makes more money than ever, they recorded their highest ever profit, and second highest profit in 2021 and 2020. Before the end of this generation they will likely have recorded their 4-5 highest ever profit years during the PS5 era. PlayStation revenue is higher than at any point in history and increasing quickly. First party game sales are higher now than ever, and at a higher price than ever.

The average call of Duty game sells 20m copies across all formats. God of War Ragnarok sold 11m copies in 3month, their games are some of the biggest selling games in the world.

@Fiendish-Beaver It’s very likely that the existence of Xbox hardware does not keep the price of PS hardware down, it pushes the specs up. Deprived of direct competition they would almost certainly make cheap consoles that do not push technological boundaries and probably sell them at a slight profit.

Hardware will never make serious profit so their goal will still be to get the system into as many hands as possible to drive high margin items like Subscriptions, software, downloadable content etc.

This is why Nintendo settled into this model when they no longer faced any direct competition.

@HonestHick

Sony can’t afford to stay on just the console either bud. Console revenue is down from every gen after PS2/GC/Xbox

PlayStation Revenue(millions of yen)
2006: 974,218

2022: 3,644,598
2023: 4,360,000(Sony Forecast)

You’re living in an alternate reality

@tameshiyaku

Vanilla, Adjective:
Used to describe a product or service that is basic and has no special features

The game is a crazy over the top Anime style game where you fight a dragon in space and a dude cuts the ocean in half with a sword. It also has a completely flashy combat system with lots of crazy abilities and moves where you can call down meteor storms and shoot giant lasers from your hands.

rather than behind a $70+ paywall

Prices are now paywalls. Have we reached Peak Entitlement as a society now?

On a similar note I wanted to have a McMuffin for breakfast today but the cheeky gits put it behind a £4.00 paywall. What the heck is our society coming to?

@trev666 Hogwarts Legacy is an 84 on OpenCritic which is good but not even in the top 20 games of the year. Other games with higher scores got zero or very few nominations too, Armoured Core, Star Wars Jedi: Survivor, Starfield, Octopth Traveller 2, Dead Space, Pikmin 4, Final Fantasy XVI, Sea of Stars etc.

The game just wasn’t impressive enough at anything for awards, it was a very safe by the numbers open world game.

It's not censorship if you're just fixing something that is lame as hell in the first place.

58% of people competing the main story is super high, that's about as high as any game you'll see

@Jacko11 the PS5 outsold the series X/S in Europe by around 6:1 in October. If the series X is suddenly selling better it's strictly because of stock issues for the PS5 as it transitions to the new model. We already went through this with Japanese sales where the X/S was ahead one week and the next week got outsold 40:1.

@InvaderJim are you in the UK? The Ps5 has been almost permanently sold out on Amazon since like last Friday, or only expensive bundles from third party sellers.Any stock that comes in sells right away.

Edit: Yup the PS5 shows as £379.99 right now but it’s actually sold out if you try to buy it. Spider-Man 2 is also sold out.

Edit2:It looks like the base PS5 is basically sold out everywhere in the UK right now, and most bundles are sold out everywhere too.The new model is still 5 days away so a bit awkward to run out of stock over Black Friday and “Cyber Monday”

This should definitely have just been a full technical rebuild like Demon’s Souls, Shaow of the colossus etc.

they bought every development team that's part of their business as they had no in-house game developers at all.

What a bunch of rubbish, they created Japan studio including Team Ico and Team Asobi. They created Polyphony Digital, Santa Monica Studio, London Studio, San Diego Studio, Manchester Studio, Pixelopus. They effectively created studios like Media Molecule too who worked with them from Inception. Studios like Sucker Punch and Naughty Dog only made average games that no one had heard of until they worked with Sony.

The number of Xbox fans that frequent this site is fairly alarming these days…😅

In defence of Xbox the narrative is that hardware isn't part of their progress but GP sales is

This whole narrative is a total lie created to hide the abject failings of Xbox executive leadership. Gamepass generates less than $1b a quarter which means that over Xbox, PC and Cloud it makes roughly the same revenue as PS+, which is a relatively minor part of PlayStation revenue and focus.

Gamepass growth would only matter if they were hitting 100m+ subscribers like their forecasts were for the end of this generation. Gamepass numbers have stalled though.

@PsBoxSwitchOwner I see it more as good old British banter 😅

Those credits are not exactly inspiring…

Proving that a digital entertainment product is priced excessively high seems literally impossible.We’re not talking about essential medication or something, they’re games.

@Sakai Do you also consider Helldivers 2 a big game then? The first game coincidentally has the exact same metacritic score as Hellblade 81(PS4)83(PC) and had a slightly higher peak concurrent user count on steam than Hellblade and probably sold similar number of copies.

@Sakai It’s a big name in the way that Returnal is a big name(or maybe Alan Wake is a better example but I’m biased and want to say that Alan Wake is much more beloved!), not in the way that God of War/Spider-man/Stafield is a big name.

Hellblade was made on a budget of $10m and broke even in approximately 3 months according to Ninja Theory. That mans sales for the first 3 months was about $10m net. We’re talking in the low hundreds of thousands. It was also a PS4/PC release and ported to Xbox later, so a good amount of its sales were on PlayStation one would assume. It was a 81/83 on Metacritic for PS4/PC so reasonably well received but not exceptional.

i am not going to list their 2024 schedule but it’s stacked

First party studio output confirmed to be targeting is 2024 is literally Hellblade 2 and Avowed. That’s 2 games, and not big names.

@themcnoisy I think you’re in the wrong place, lad. You were looking for Push-Up Square? Yeah…

@Ichiban because things need comparisons to have context, it’s literally how the human brain has worked since the beginning of time.

You did 47 Push-ups? Ok, that number is meaningless without context. How do we put it in context? We ask how many push-ups other people can do.

@UltimateOtaku91 It was 560k in like 2 months when only about 10m people owned a PlayStation 5. It was also one of the first £70 games.

Thats a very respectable total, but doesn't sound impressive compared to some of these massive AAA game sales you hear about now.

@NinjaSixx You said they're all cheaper on Amazon, that's factually wrong. You could be an adult about being wrong instead of acting like a buffoon.

@NinjaSixx Even if this one game is cheaper that would still leave the majority of the games I checked not cheaper on amazon and even before you apply the 12% discount for digital credit too. So your point was actually completely wrong, no? Many of the games on the PS sale are currently much cheaper than Amazon.

I logged in on my PS5 and the subscription front page literally says "Save upto 30%

Extend your current plan to save 25% or upgrade to save more!"

Are people actually getting different PSN front page screens?

@NinjaSixx Clearly the price got adjusted after I typed it, it will be adjusted in the future too, crazy I know.

Im still subbed and it allows me to add another year of extra at the discount price, I tried through the app. My sub runs out soon too.

@NinjaSixx

All these games are cheaper on Amazon too

Let me fact-check that for you:

FFXVI - £38.99( £39.99 on Amazon Black Friday sale)
Assassin’s Creed Mirage - £35.99(£34.99 Amazon BF sale)
EA Sports FC - £34.99(£58.78 on Amazon)
Diablo IV - £41.99(£56.99 on Amazon)
Mortal Kombat is cheaper on Amazon, FFXVI and RE4 are both more expensive on Amazon.

You can also buy PSN credit from Shopto for up to 12% off(no Black Friday sale yet) and get another 12% discount on all those digital prices.

@Oz_Momotaro My PS Plus Extra is still active and it gives me the option to buy again at the sales price (£74.99).

@somnambulance Maybe worldwide Wonder can outsell SM2 by the end of the year but zero chance in the USA where the Spider-man games do way better than anywhere else.

so you'd have Yakuza, Judgment and Like A Dragon, all set in the same universe at more or less the same time. So it just seems weird to me that the main character from the Yakuza series is now under the Like A Dragon series, when it makes more sense for him to be in the Yakuza series

You’re missing the key point here. Yakuza and Like a Dragon is the same series. Yakuza is called Like a Dragon in Japan, Yakuza 2 is called Like a Dragon 2 etc.

This was almost certainly Sega marketing dudes changing the name for the west and the studio was never into that but had no say, and now they’re reclaiming the name it always was known by in it’s primary market. Like Resident Evil, that name makes no sense and the guys that made the games hate it.

This comment section is a Clown Show

@BeerIsAwesome Infinite Wealth is Ryu Ga Gotoku 8 (Like a Dragon 8) in Japan. The problem in the west was not the numbers but because the game had a different name in Japan than the west and they wanted to change it over and unify them.

Going Yakuza 6 -> Yakuza: Like Dragon-> Like a Dragon: [Name] is clearly not as confusing for people as Yakuza 6 -> Like a Dragon 7 -> Like a Dragon 8.

@Sakai Profits are down because the first few years of PS5 were extremely profitable due ironically to not having enough PS5 stock.

They're pushing their target hard, but 25m shipped in a FY is a PlayStation record, it's about 5m above any PS4 year. Its not just a big number, it's unprecedented. The huge install base will bring in all-time PS record profits for like 3 years in a row by the end of this generation.

@Sakai Historically every PlayStation made a loss during the first few years when they were selling the hardware at a loss and heavily pushing them. It was only in the middle to late years they were profitable. They will heavily push this year to hit 60m shipped by end of FY then after that they will employ more high margin behaviour.

@MrMagic The UK is a huge market for Xbox and arguably its most successful relative to its competitors. The Series X/S reached 2m sales in the U.K. in May 2023, which is 12 weeks faster than the Nintendo Switch managed.