Hyperluminal

People who say they can't beat Demon Souls because it's too hard make me laugh. Sure its not easy but its fair and only really requires patience and being able to learn and put into practice those lessons.

Games in the 80's were much harder than anything made now, you would've given up gaming all together if you think DS is tough 😄

Spider-Man now selling at £45 helps but that doesn't get a mention.

@Nepp67 its been rechristened the very fast travel system on PS5

@tameshiyaku seems to me it normal round here. Quantity over quality is the name of the day.

Titbits mate. We're not puritanical about it here in the UK 😄

@KingPev there is almost nothing they won't write an article about. Thats why all the articles are only two paragraphs long.

In this case an update on a patch of a game that's still broken is fine.

They're all on eBay for £500

@Archius9 not really because there's no 'speed limit' the consoles must adhere to but I see what you mean. For that analogy to make perfect sense it should be: there are two cars, one is a 200mph super car, a 911 Carrera, the other is a 160mph sports car, a Skyline R34. Brilliant cars.

An external observer sees the Porche travelling on a road left to fight at 200mph and the Skyline right to left at 160mph. One is going a significant amount faster than the other but that difference would be very hard for the observer to notice without tools to measure the speed and so would appear to be relatively the same.

@GREGORIAN 44% increase in resolution is not a subjective observation, it's an objective fact. That's a significant amount difference in terms of how many pixels are being pushed around by the respective consoles, and that was what i am talking about. In terms of display resolution in a technical breakdown such as the one DF did, a 44% boost to resolution on the Series X represents a significant uplift on that machine.
At no point have I denied what the game would LOOK like subjectively to an observer. I'm not interested in that and don't deny that to the uninterested gamer it won't be very noticeable. That doesn't mean the technical nature previously mentioned isn't true and isn't significant.

I can see you don't understand what 44% means so let me quote BAMoozy who explained it earlier in the thread:

'That's only if you go by the vertical number of pixels but as an image is 'area' which has horizontal pixels (3200x1800 vs 3840x2160) that is 44% difference in area - number of pixels. Its like 900p vs 1080p in HD terms.

If you divide 8294400 (the number of pixels at full 4k) by 5760000 (the number of pixels in a 1800p image) you get 1.44 indicating that the image is 44% larger at 4k - although you can also do it the other way to show that 1800p is just under 70% of the size of 4k.'

Was there any reason for you to put your point across to me in such a disparaging fashion? How are you calling me a troll when I respectfully, more respectful than your reply to me, respond to sammi's immature taunt that I'd be hard pressed to tell the difference, again not understanding that I'm talking about the technical aspect of the disparity not the subjective view of it.

@LiterallyDoNotCare I'm not bothered either way. The game is coming to me whether I like it or not so I'm in no rush to find out what its about 😊

@GingerSilent fine by me. I hope Sony keep rolling out the hits with single player games.

@LiterallyDoNotCare I wouldn't pay £70 for it that's for sure.

@Classic_console game pass already has a worthy rival in PSNow. I subscribe and for the £35 I paid for a year its been excellent value.

@get2sammyb what I say now i say with respect. How very defensive of you. That's quite an immature way to respond and I'd expect better from a representative of the site. What I said is factually correct.

I am not, and did not, dispute any subjective impression any person has of the quality of the image or their probable inability to be able to tell the difference between the resolutions the game runs at on each platform. I am perfectly happy to accept that in reality the average gamer would find it tough to see unless they were actively looking to notice.

What I commented on is the impression given by the article that the actual, physical difference in resolution is marginal. There's a 44% increase in resolution on the Series X and that's not marginal, its what I'd expect from the fairly significant difference between the 2 consoles in raw power.

It's not a complaint or a dig at PS5, its an honest appraisal. I don't understand why you've replied to me in such a sarcastic fashion.

@zebric21 'so why this time is the power difference and not developer optimization or buggy performance?'

Any answer i give is an assumption because I can't possibly know that.

I would say that perhaps more developers have the right tools from MS to get better results from their consoles. Or maybe developers have grown more experienced in using them.

What I confidently predict is that once multiplat games start getting developed for current-gen consoles only that this scenario will occur more often than the recent examples of cross-gen multiplat games where the PS5 version was outperforming Series X.

And that's not a problem or suggesting that PS5 isn't every bit as good as Series X. They have their strengths and weaknesses in different areas. For all that power MS doesn't have anywhere near the strength in depth of Sony's games catalogue, and that's what I care about.

@BAMozzy couldn't agree more with you on how this kind of comparison information gets handled and presented by the media depending on personal, or perhaps editorial, bias.

The difference isn't teensy or marginal. That just sounds fanboyish. Its a 44% increase, what I'd expect considering the difference in resources between the 2 consoles.

We'll see this more often as games begin to be developed for this generation of console only.

In the grand scheme of things it doesn't matter, and personally a solid framerate is more important to me.

@StrickenBiged I would wager my left nut that retailers are not claiming back cash for unsold PS5s 😁

@LordSteev don't blame you mate. It's all crap. Especially anything that comes from Disney.

@LordSteev there isn't any, but I won't go as far to say they wouldn't make anything objectively good. What I would say is that they'd have no desire to take any risks or provide anything new. We'd get fed a diet of what's most popular and what suits MS to present to us. I know its not a direct comparison but look at all the dross Netflix produces. That new Star Trek is so woke and happy-clappy i can't stand it.

@LordSteev well I think Sony are going the right way about it. Encourage people to move over from MS by offering great games.

MS will always do well with the FIFA, COD ect crowd because they're brainwashed enough to throw money at recycled rubbish but I hope their business model implodes on them.

@banacheck Sony doesn’t prosper from bots buying consoles. Sony has already made their money selling the hardware to retail outlets. So no, Sony wouldn't be happy with the situation, they'd want PS5s in the hands of people who will buy software and accessories.

This may not be right but I've heard that they're going to open the Gates of Hell and we're all going to die. Fingers crossed.

@LordSteev well reportedly Sony are in the market to buy development studios so maybe Housemarque and Blupoint are among them. I hope so, they've been so good for so long.

As for GP, I hope it fails if its going to be pushed as the primary way to play games. I really can't stand MS. Everything about them is cynical. They don't create anything, they absorb or appropriate. What they don't have they try to buy, they don't innovate. You'll never see them risk anything on cutting-edge gambles like PSVR. I swear PSVR was a highlight of my entire life. Imagine having a childhood dream realised, actually playing immersed inside the game environment. RE7 VR should be held up as pivotal a moment in time where VR showed it's the future. I've never been so scared in my life 😫

This isn't really news such is the certainty that with demand so high and supply so low it was bound to happen.

@LordSteev that I can totally agree with. I think thats exactly what any new IP in a console launch window is, a loss leader. Its there to draw attention to the PS5 and make it more attractive than the competition. (There is a shortage of PS5 stock but don't forget there's already a record-breaking number of them sold through to gamers.)

It just so happens that isn't too difficult because MS have taken to selling people the Emperor's New Clothes; a new console with nothing new to play on it. Somehow they've convinced people backward-compatibility is so desirable its the primary selling point.

PlayStation has been doing that since PS2 and it was nice but never a priority. I can't stand MS' approach. Robs us of all the excitement of years of waiting for new consoles and new games developed specifically for them. As for Game Pass, it gets mentioned so often like its so amazing, and admittedly at this moment in time as MS try to build the subscription base it is good value, but PSNow never gets mentioned and it is arguably as good. If only Sony offered it in more countries and perhaps tied PSPlus into it.

Play the demo. Its a really good, if a little easy, game and well worth the asking price. You can buy this for near enough 30 quid and that's an absolute bargain for the level of polish and content to be had.

@LordSteev you are misunderstanding me though. Why are you comparing PS4 with PS5?

There are 5 million PS5s already sold. Thats a record amount for a Sony console launch. Sony planned to release Returnal 2 months after the console launch. Clearly they are not concerned with selling as many on PS5 as they could on PS4 for whatever reason, be it the demographic of console owners or they tastes, and yet thats what they've decided to do.

The trouble with this new generation is that games are being developed cross-gen. This wouldn't have been an issue before. Returnal is PS5 only just like how games used to be for new consoles when the launched. Nobody ever worried about launch game sales before. Launch games are always going to struggle for sales compared to games in eststablished consoles, but they are there to entice and attract people to the platform.

Sony's mistake isn't releasing it on PS5, its pricing it at £70. For a new I.P. thats a risk that will definitely affect sales, but then Miles Morales, which is a well-recognised franchise, is little more than expanded DLC and people still paid £70 for it.

@Th3solution I'm not saying it will do fine because Miles Morales sold well. Everything I've said is to do with console sales. I mentioned Spider-Man and Demon Souls to illustrate that if they are selling then it stands to reason that there are enough PS5s in play, not in the hand of scalpers, for any game released on PS5 to stand a chance of selling well. All I have been trying to demonstrate is that the problem with scalpers hoarding PS5s is not at a level so significant that it consistutes an appreciable percentage of them overall.

Everything else you've said I now agree with.

@LordSteev 5 million is HUGELY impressive for a console launch. And Sony are launching Returnal two months after PS5 was launched. Sony is fully aware that the install base will obviously affect sales, especially for a brand new I.P. from a developer who's never had a game sold at AAA prices. And yet they've still decided to do it. I don't know why everyone is worried about how many PS5s there are in people's homes. It won't be the factor that decides if the game does well, the price will.

@Th3solution you're making too many assumptions. All the figures you mention are guesses. In fact everything you've said is just how you feel about it. Just as easily as you say buying from scalpers has eaten into a what you assume to be limited budget, I could quite easily counter with if they can afford a PS5 at inflated cost from a scalper who's to say they don't have the means and will to freely pay £70 for a game (I know you acknowledge this as a possibility) After all, isn't it logical if you can afford to pay twice as much for a console that you had every intention of paying normal RRP but come launch day circumstances meant you had to quickly decide to pay double, the chances are you can afford a game at normally RRP.

I don't know any of this but my point is neither do you, but I'd say there's not enough PS5 consoles to make such a significant impact on sales of Returnal judging by what we've seen so far in the market. UK Week one Spider-Man and Demon Souls sold over 18,000 (physical) copies each, out of all PS5 owners in the region. Thats sounds low but its actually very good. If that's a good number I really don't think consoles in the hands of scalpers will be an issue in sales for Returnal.

Talk about making huge assumptions. I predict whatever they're doing will be good.

@LiterallyDoNotCare Demons Souls sold only a couple of hundred fewer copies than Spider-Man on PS5 in the first week so don't worry about DS, its doing well. Considering its a much less recognisable franchise to Spider-Man its a great achievement.

@pip_muzz I'm slapping my forehead at what you've just said. You have absolutely no idea whatsoever about what you've just said. 4 million PS5s in the hands of scalpers, jesus wept.. even scalpers have got hold of PS5s in undesirable numbers, idiots have still bought them. Dont say its a significant number as if you know because you don't. You may feel like it is because of the coverage but..you ..do.. not ..know.

So for your point to make sense there would have to be millions of PS5s still in the hands of scalpers which they've failed to sell....which begs the question why are scalpers still buying as much stock as possible when it come in? 🤣🤣🤣 they must be mental 🤣🤣🤣 thanks for the laugh.

@Th3solution there are nearly 5 million PS5s sold worldwide. Thats a huge number for a console launch. Sony released the game expecting their consoles to be sold out. They also know when and how many new consoles will be made available. No way have Sony released this game just after PS5 launch worrying about there not being enough people with PS5s to play it so it may affect sales. That doesn't make sense. I agree the price may put people off buying at launch and that will have an affect that Sony may feel the backlash off, but sales affected by the number of consoles out in the wild clearly is something they would've considered and factored in.

@Nepp67 couldn't agree more. Anyone who 'misses' good pre-order bonus has been brainwashed by the industry. Pre-order bonuses, especially store specific ones are a joke and reinforce FOMO anxiety in people.

So what if its £70. No-one is forced to buy it at launch or digital. If it bothers you, relax, wait for it to get cheaper. I didn't pay full RRP for any PS5 game when I got mine. All the stores had games cheaper at launch. All this angst is pointless. Such millennials. Atari 2600 games were 30-40 quid in the 70's.

Hopefully no Chelsea shirts become available. Don't want to encourage racists to Fortnite.

@Kienda why is it Sony's problem if stores are choosing to sell the consoles indiscriminately?

@kyleforrester87 maybe if you washed it more often ....😆👍

I looks very nice. I'd hardly say it's awesome, it's not like I'm seeing a star going supernova. My favourite custom PS5 is the still the Spider-Man one.

Tantalising. Tantalise. Its a nice word. Interesting etymology, it derives from the word Tantalus ending with the suffix 'ise'. The word 'tantalise' has been in use in England since the 16th century, before English had spread across the globe. Tantalus was the name of a Phrygian king in Greek mythology who was punished by the gods and made to stand in perpetuity in a pool of water he could not drink from and under branches heavy with fruit he could not eat.

Quick question, can I watch PS embedded videos from YouTube without having to subscribe to PS?

@Old-Red yes maybe so. Fact is, in general terms, there's never a moment when a story can't be spun from social media and forum comments because there's always drama going being created by vocal minorities complaining about something that make good headlines.

Its not a complaint I'm making. I'm just saying there'll never be a dearth of articles, because anything can be sensationalised.

@Old-Red the media will never struggle to find something to write about. 80% of the output here is reporting on what some random nobody has said on Twitter as if it's news.

But you've completely missed the effect recent, disastrous/disappointing AAA game launches of games like Anthem, F76 and Cyberpunk that have ruined reputations, lost potential revenue, and killed player engagement.

Perhaps finally publishers are waking up to the fact that releasing unfinished games is bad business longterm, partly thanks to games media finally review games with that in mind. At least here on PS you rated Cyberpunk 3/10 so well done there.

@wiiware seems to be a theme with you. Anything you don't like or don't agree with you wish to ignore or say its rubbish. Plus you can't take what you dish out. You tell people to 'cry more' but if you're told much the same you pout, throw your toys out of the pram, claim moral superiority and place people on ignore.

No wonder you didn't like ND's story, you lack imagination. As if ND should refund you because trailers didn't present the game you expected! 😆😆😆🙄

@wiiware sorry, could read what you said. It was all smudged from you crying as you wrote it.

@OmegaStriver ridiculous. CDPR released a broken, unfinished game. ND's crime? They told a story you didn't like. By all means stop preordering, thats totally sensible and I agree, but to lump ND in the same basket as CDPR is nonsense.

@wiiware your comment is one giant, ill-conceived, self absorbed assumption concocted to assuage your buyers remorse and your misplaced sense of entitlement over how ND should've told the story to suit your expectations.

If you didn't like the story ND told in TLoU2 that's fine. Its not because ND got it wrong it's because you did. It wasn't your story to tell.